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Post by Cody on Apr 10, 2015 18:04:19 GMT -5
I'm not WTF-ing this. It's a decent song, but I prefer almost every song ahead of it. but for almost every active thread you bring up the WTF ALTERNATIVE option like these You fool. Just by saying "grunge", you're opening up the door to comments like "WTF ALTERNATIVE U BETTER GIVE GRUNGE GODSMACK A CHANCE" Haha... *Core active act releases new single* Everyone: "OMG THIS BETTER DO WELL ON ALT OTHERWISE WTF ALT" *Song eventually flops, peaking at #22 on alt while Milky Chance and Ah Di Bi Doe are still in the top 10* Everyone: "ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH GAHHHHH WTF ALTERNATIVE" You weren't around in late 2013/early 2014 when every single lead single by a core active act or a thrash song like "Guilty All The Same" flopped on alt and half the forum seriously raged about it. I'm clearly not being serious when I say things like I did in the Breaking Benjamin thread.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Apr 10, 2015 18:09:18 GMT -5
but for almost every active thread you bring up the WTF ALTERNATIVE option like these You weren't around in late 2013/early 2014 when every single lead single by a core active act or a thrash song like "Guilty All The Same" flopped on alt and half the forum seriously raged about it. I'm clearly not being serious when I say things like I did in the Breaking Benjamin thread. I'd thought I saw the rant about Guilty All the Same (at least Green Baron's). I was then a stalker of Pulse.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Apr 10, 2015 20:57:48 GMT -5
One of Alts biggest bands ever flopped with a lead single, that was kind of a big deal. You can beat your ass if Foo Fighters ever miss Top 10 with a lead single, the forum will erupt.
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Post by Cody on Apr 10, 2015 21:09:35 GMT -5
One of Alts biggest bands ever flopped with a lead single, that was kind of a big deal. You can beat your ass if Foo Fighters ever miss Top 10 with a lead single, the forum will erupt. This is true, although there's a big difference between flopping inexplicably (theoretical Foo Fighters lead-single flop) and the panel flopping your song because you made a ridiculous and arrogant statement and thought you were bigger than the genre itself, so you then release a lead-single which never had a chance in hell based on the most basic of common sense. (Linkin Park).
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Post by Lordef†ones on Apr 10, 2015 21:16:09 GMT -5
Until It's Gone and Final Masquerade should've at least been hits. If they REALLY wanna get back at Linkin Park, they should smash CHVRCHES
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Post by Butterflies & Hurricanes on Apr 10, 2015 22:34:31 GMT -5
the world needs a new CHVRCHES album soon!
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Apr 11, 2015 0:05:52 GMT -5
I think the Alt chart flopped when this song flopped.
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Post by Cody on Apr 11, 2015 5:07:02 GMT -5
Until It's Gone and Final Masquerade should've at least been hits. If they REALLY wanna get back at Linkin Park, they should smash CHVRCHES At least one of them woulda been a hit if it were the lead single.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Apr 11, 2015 5:13:45 GMT -5
Until It's Gone and Final Masquerade should've at least been hits. If they REALLY wanna get back at Linkin Park, they should smash CHVRCHES At least one of them woulda been a hit if it were the lead single. Tbh, Final Masquerade would be a good choice for a lead single.
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Post by Green Baron on Apr 15, 2015 17:35:28 GMT -5
It's radio's fault that this is tanking. Many stations still play ancient tracks like Pardon Me, Drive, Stellar, Wish You Were Here, Anna-Molly and Dig more than they do this. If we took away all of those spins and replaced them with spins for Absolution Calling, I guarantee you that this would be in the top ten.
Note to radio: WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THESE SONGS FOR 10-15 YEARS NOW. WE'RE SICK OF THEM! PLAY THEIR NEW STUFF THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS YOUR HELP TO SURVIVE!
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Post by Cody on Apr 15, 2015 18:06:17 GMT -5
It's radio's fault that this is tanking. Many stations still play ancient tracks like Pardon Me, Drive, Stellar, Wish You Were Here, Anna-Molly and Dig more than they do this. If we took away all of those spins and replaced them with spins for Absolution Calling, I guarantee you that this would be in the top ten. Note to radio: WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THESE SONGS FOR 10-15 YEARS NOW. WE'RE SICK OF THEM! PLAY THEIR NEW STUFF THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS YOUR HELP TO SURVIVE! Actually, that's the last thing you should want. The alternative radio audience is fairly young. Playing those older Incubus hits as high-profile golds not only proves that the young audience likes some of the 00s alternative era stuff, but gets them interested enough in stuff like newer Incubus and newer stuff from other older staples as well (Weezer, for example). Playing those older hits also helps retain some of the older listeners who aren't exactly into everything the new era has to offer. It's what keeps people like American Idiot just interested enough in alternative stations to listen to them. Finally, and with the help of a combination of both of these factors, Absolution Calling only got top 20 status because the bulk of the listeners are interested because of Incubus' older stuff. Without the airplay their older hits get, this would have actually done worse, because the newer listeners wouldn't have any desire to hear new Incubus (hell, some wouldn't even know who they were without airplay for those 00s hits), and because older listeners wouldn't be around to give this the audience needed to warrant that top 20 status.
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 15, 2015 20:14:55 GMT -5
It's radio's fault that this is tanking. Many stations still play ancient tracks like Pardon Me, Drive, Stellar, Wish You Were Here, Anna-Molly and Dig more than they do this. If we took away all of those spins and replaced them with spins for Absolution Calling, I guarantee you that this would be in the top ten. Note to radio: WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THESE SONGS FOR 10-15 YEARS NOW. WE'RE SICK OF THEM! PLAY THEIR NEW STUFF THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS YOUR HELP TO SURVIVE! Playing those older hits also helps retain some of the older listeners who aren't exactly into everything the new era has to offer. It's what keeps people like American Idiot just interested enough in alternative stations to listen to them. To be honest, I'm in agreement with Waltz here. I've heard songs like "Pardon Me" hundreds of times and couldn't care less if I heard again despite being a fan of the song. I dislike hearing these old stale hits and wouldn't mind if they played 95% new songs with a rare older song from say 10-20 years ago thrown in say once an hour like just from the top of my head... Authority Zero's "One More Minute."
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Post by Cody on Apr 15, 2015 20:17:36 GMT -5
Playing those older hits also helps retain some of the older listeners who aren't exactly into everything the new era has to offer. It's what keeps people like American Idiot just interested enough in alternative stations to listen to them. To be honest, I'm in agreement with Waltz here. I've heard songs like "Pardon Me" hundreds of times and couldn't care less if I heard again despite being a fan of the song. I dislike hearing these old stale hits and wouldn't mind if they played 95% new songs with a rare older song from say 10-20 years ago thrown in say once an hour. That's because you're a music enthusiast though...I moreso meant people in your age demographic. Most people your age who listen to alternative aren't anywhere near as interested in new music as they are in the golds as you happen to be.
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 15, 2015 20:22:50 GMT -5
To be honest, I'm in agreement with Waltz here. I've heard songs like "Pardon Me" hundreds of times and couldn't care less if I heard again despite being a fan of the song. I dislike hearing these old stale hits and wouldn't mind if they played 95% new songs with a rare older song from say 10-20 years ago thrown in say once an hour. That's because you're a music enthusiast though...I moreso meant people in your age demographic. Most people your age who listen to alternative aren't anywhere near as interested in new music as they are in the golds as you happen to be. Ok yeah now that is a valid point. They'd rather hear a song they grew up on than the current mostly Indie/EDM playlist. Although, what's unusual about many people my age in their younger-30s and grew up in the 90s seem to like Classic Rock in what their parents grew up listening to. I've gotten more into it as well over the last five years or so, but I'd rather listen to stuff I grew up on any day over it.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Apr 15, 2015 21:04:17 GMT -5
It's radio's fault that this is tanking. Many stations still play ancient tracks like Pardon Me, Drive, Stellar, Wish You Were Here, Anna-Molly and Dig more than they do this. If we took away all of those spins and replaced them with spins for Absolution Calling, I guarantee you that this would be in the top ten. Note to radio: WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THESE SONGS FOR 10-15 YEARS NOW. WE'RE SICK OF THEM! PLAY THEIR NEW STUFF THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS YOUR HELP TO SURVIVE! Finally, and with the help of a combination of both of these factors, Absolution Calling only got top 20 status because the bulk of the listeners are interested because of Incubus' older stuff. Without the airplay their older hits get, this would have actually done worse, because the newer listeners wouldn't have any desire to hear new Incubus (hell, some wouldn't even know who they were without airplay for those 00s hits), and because older listeners wouldn't be around to give this the audience needed to warrant that top 20 status. That's so sad, but it's the truth. The target Alternative audience are mostly ignorant of the bands that did well 8-15 years ago. Although, it seems to be a vicious cycle - I myself aren't too familiar with many 90s bands as I think I should be.
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Post by Cody on Apr 15, 2015 21:12:55 GMT -5
Sidenote: The only older Incubus hit I still hear that I'm actually sick of is "Drive".
I still hear "Wish You Were Here" and "Dig" while out and about, "Megalomaniac" on my rock station, and "Anna Molly" from regular manual selection on my iPod/Spotify, and enjoy all of those quite a bit. I would never skip or change the station on any of their other singles either.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Apr 15, 2015 21:20:19 GMT -5
Sidenote: The only older Incubus hit I still hear that I'm actually sick of is "Drive". I still hear "Wish You Were Here" and "Dig" while out and about, "Megalomaniac" on my rock station, and "Anna Molly" from regular manual selection on my iPod/Spotify, and enjoy all of those quite a bit. I would never skip or change the station on any of their other singles either. I wish I still heard "Megalomaniac" on the radio. The only old Incubus my rock station plays are the cuts from "Make Yourself" and "Morning View" (and "Anna Molly" and "Dig" every now and then). Although, in regards to this song, I'd think perhaps hearing new Incubus on the radio may entice older people to listen more? Because the general consensus among Incubus fans is that it's at least better than the singles from the last album.
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Post by Web on Apr 15, 2015 23:38:28 GMT -5
I'm largely indifferent towards Drive, but I can't stand Pardon Me and Wish You Were Here. I've heard those wayyyyy too many times to enjoy them, after hearing a song so many times without absolutely loving it you start to pick it apart to find reasons to dislike it, and I think that's what's happened with those songs. I guess I never had a huge connection to Incubus at any point, and this new single isn't bad, but I've never had a track from their discography really stick with me as an all-time favorite.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Apr 16, 2015 10:42:49 GMT -5
I love all of Incubus' hits and they remain to be one of the most commonly heard Alt artists on my station. Then again my station didn't shaft Absolution Calling either.
I'm hella stoked for their summer tour with Deftones and DFA1979 though.
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 16, 2015 12:53:32 GMT -5
I'm hella stoked for their summer tour with Deftones and DFA1979 though. I just read about that before coming on here. I must go to that tour when it comes down here as I've never seen all three bands live before. I've never disliked anything Incubus put out and I know I said I could do without ever hearing "Pardon Me" again, but if I didn't hear it over the next 5-10 years, I'd likely miss it. I think the only one I honestly would be fine without hearing again is "Drive." Radio still plays that I'd think more than any other Incubus single and to this day and it went mainstream on other formats too. I've never hated the song, but never loved it either.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Apr 16, 2015 21:09:05 GMT -5
For this to reach top 10 on Active, it has to hope that Sixx:A.M. fall faster and it has to move quicker before Royal Blood overtake them.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Apr 17, 2015 1:22:21 GMT -5
As far as the year is concerned. This is the first "HTF did this not become a huge hit WFT for me" It's as melodic and catchy as anything Incubus has put out and great guitar work. Message to radio Stations: "just spin the F**kin record MF's'
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Post by dm2081 on Apr 17, 2015 8:39:47 GMT -5
I'm hella stoked for their summer tour with Deftones and DFA1979 though. I just read about that before coming on here. I must go to that tour when it comes down here as I've never seen all three bands live before. I've never disliked anything Incubus put out and I know I said I could do without ever hearing "Pardon Me" again, but if I didn't hear it over the next 5-10 years, I'd likely miss it. I think the only one I honestly would be fine without hearing again is "Drive." Radio still plays that I'd think more than any other Incubus single and to this day and it went mainstream on other formats too. I've never hated the song, but never loved it either. It's at the Cruzan August 14th!
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Post by Superundercover on Apr 17, 2015 12:25:02 GMT -5
Most robbed song of the year!
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 17, 2015 13:12:12 GMT -5
I just read about that before coming on here. I must go to that tour when it comes down here as I've never seen all three bands live before. I've never disliked anything Incubus put out and I know I said I could do without ever hearing "Pardon Me" again, but if I didn't hear it over the next 5-10 years, I'd likely miss it. I think the only one I honestly would be fine without hearing again is "Drive." Radio still plays that I'd think more than any other Incubus single and to this day and it went mainstream on other formats too. I've never hated the song, but never loved it either. It's at the Cruzan August 14th! Yep! Finally, an incredible tour like that comes down here when you usually skip us over due to our lack of rock fans. I'm going to see Weird Al the night after, so that should be a fun weekend of concerts for sure
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Apr 19, 2015 6:14:07 GMT -5
12 11 ROYAL BLOOD Little Monster 850 777 73 1.87 11 12 INCUBUS Absolution Calling 843 889 -46 2.329 16 13 THREE DAYS GRACE Human Race 839 724 115 1.778 17 14 TEMPERANCE MOVEMENT Take It Back 788 680 108 2.28 14 15 WE ARE HARLOT Dancing On Nails 775 752 23 1.292 15 16 AWOLNATION Hollow Moon (Bad Wolf) 756 734 22 2.36
Bye bye top 10 on Active
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Apr 19, 2015 23:17:28 GMT -5
Would one week in the Top 10 really had been that hard to accomplish?
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Apr 28, 2015 0:40:58 GMT -5
Not to beat a dead horse, cuz this is one of my favourite songs of the moment, but it might interest you to know that it hasn't even been able to crack the top 10 on the other mainstream Rock chart where heritage rock bands go to graze.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 28, 2015 22:24:41 GMT -5
It's almost like we're some weird alien tribe and it's only us that like this song, but I guess that's us with a lot of things.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 6, 2015 11:31:06 GMT -5
Ouch at Active
15 31 INCUBUS Absolution Calling 278 627 -349 0.977
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