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Post by H. on Dec 8, 2014 16:26:12 GMT -5
This is my favorite on the album, but it isn't as radio friendly as Not On Drugs.
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Post by musicfan20 on Dec 8, 2014 17:18:22 GMT -5
I knew Republic would do this and it was a wise decision. I believe NOD would have flopped hard on pop. This has a very good chance of smashing in Winter/Spring. I can't wait for the video!
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Post by surfy on Dec 8, 2014 19:23:37 GMT -5
I am very happy they chose this as the next single! I think this will go top 20 at least, and then she will probably release "Not on Drugs".
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Post by Green Baron on Dec 8, 2014 19:45:25 GMT -5
Both are great songs. I can't complain.
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Post by Zeebz on Dec 8, 2014 23:15:41 GMT -5
The logical choice. It was an early standout from the album and it sounds like it could do well on radio. Hopefully it does perform well. I still want "Not On Drugs" to be a single a some point though.
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Post by surfy on Dec 8, 2014 23:18:42 GMT -5
I've had this stuck in my head since I've viewed this thread... Such a catchy song!
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Post by Glove Slap on Dec 9, 2014 15:22:50 GMT -5
Smart choice to switch the singles. I personally prefer NOD, but that sounds a bit too 2011. Granted that sounding 3 years too late didn't really hinder Ellie Goulding from a big Pop hit last year, but best to play safe right now.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Dec 9, 2014 15:28:57 GMT -5
Smart choice to switch the singles. I personally prefer NOD, but that sounds a bit too 2011. Granted that sounding 3 years too late didn't really hinder Ellie Goulding from a big Pop hit last year... ...or Ariana with "Break Free".
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Post by surfy on Dec 9, 2014 15:32:34 GMT -5
Smart choice to switch the singles. I personally prefer NOD, but that sounds a bit too 2011. Granted that sounding 3 years too late didn't really hinder Ellie Goulding from a big Pop hit last year... ...or Ariana with "Break Free". Yeah, but they were going to play pretty much anything Ariana served to pop.
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Post by Snowbeast on Dec 10, 2014 2:36:45 GMT -5
Good song. Not On Drugs sounds better suited as a 3rd single to me.
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Post by Cody on Dec 10, 2014 17:13:40 GMT -5
As long as the label goes to "Not On Drugs" for #3 this is cool. I like this way more than I should...lyrically it's like a cock rock band wrote this, but it's fantastic Musically it might actually be a bit better than "Not On Drugs."
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Post by Green Baron on Dec 10, 2014 17:31:43 GMT -5
As long as the label goes to "Not On Drugs" for #3 this is cool. I like this way more than I should...lyrically it's like a cock rock band wrote this, but it's fantastic Musically it might actually be a bit better than "Not On Drugs." Well yeah, if a woman sings this, its sexy, but if a guy sings it, it's sexist. Don't make much sense to me either, but hey
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Post by Cody on Dec 11, 2014 1:03:51 GMT -5
As long as the label goes to "Not On Drugs" for #3 this is cool. I like this way more than I should...lyrically it's like a cock rock band wrote this, but it's fantastic Musically it might actually be a bit better than "Not On Drugs." Well yeah, if a woman sings this, its sexy, but if a guy sings it, it's sexist. Don't make much sense to me either, but hey ...no. That couldn't be further from the truth. There's absolutely NOTHING sexy about Halestorm's "I Get Off" or Neon Hitch's "F U Betta", both of which are just incredibly obnoxious.
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Post by Green Baron on Dec 11, 2014 1:05:54 GMT -5
Well yeah, if a woman sings this, its sexy, but if a guy sings it, it's sexist. Don't make much sense to me either, but hey ...no. That couldn't be further from the truth. There's absolutely NOTHING sexy about Halestorm's "I Get Off" or Neon Hitch's "F U Betta", both of which are just incredibly obnoxious. ...I think "I Get Off" is kinda hot Anyways, girls never get accused of sexism towards men in those songs, but male fronted bands like Nickelback or TOAD are called sexist for singing. About wanting too fuck girls.
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 11, 2014 1:57:01 GMT -5
I love this song. So happy it's a single.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 17:04:11 GMT -5
Well yeah, if a woman sings this, its sexy, but if a guy sings it, it's sexist. Don't make much sense to me either, but hey ...no. That couldn't be further from the truth. There's absolutely NOTHING sexy about Halestorm's "I Get Off" or Neon Hitch's "F U Betta", both of which are just incredibly obnoxious. omg THIS. I Get Off is an absolute screamfest. ugh. This song is ok I guess. I preferred "Habits".
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Post by J'back on Dec 11, 2014 17:15:16 GMT -5
Love this. "If you love me right, we fuck for life" is my new grindr headline <3
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Post by dbhmr on Dec 11, 2014 17:32:56 GMT -5
Smart choice to switch the singles. I personally prefer NOD, but that sounds a bit too 2011. Granted that sounding 3 years too late didn't really hinder Ellie Goulding from a big Pop hit last year, but best to play safe right now. I love it, but it does sound like a song Gaga would have done when she was popular and would have had great success with. "Moments," however, stays perfect and timeless and must be released.
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Post by Fancy on Dec 11, 2014 17:59:57 GMT -5
moments is so anthemic but i feel like it'd only do well after a few more successful singles.
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Post by Cody on Dec 12, 2014 1:02:36 GMT -5
moments is so anthemic but i feel like it'd only do well after a few more successful singles. This. Anything works for me though, the whole record is fantastic. This is easily my favourite (mainstream) debut album from a female pop singer since Katy Perry's "One Of The Boys".
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Post by Fancy on Dec 12, 2014 1:07:04 GMT -5
would the switch to this possibly be the reason of the noneffect "not on drugs" had on impact on the alt format? as in was it kept from going for adds at the last moment (unless someone actually knows 100% that it did and just flopped - wouldn't surprise me, hearing that on the format would be more jarring to me than "habits" - and would be able to tell me)?
also i still hold my opinion that the fun that is "my gun" would do pretty well.
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Post by Cody on Dec 12, 2014 1:17:17 GMT -5
would the switch to this possibly be the reason of the noneffect "not on drugs" had on impact on the alt format? as in was it kept from going for adds at the last moment (unless someone actually knows 100% that it did and just flopped - wouldn't surprise me, hearing that on the format would be more jarring to me than "habits" - and would be able to tell me)? also i still hold my opinion that the fun that is "my gun" would do pretty well. According to AllAccess, I remember it being on the adds list for November (was it 18th or 25th?) until it's adds date, and it's still under alt's Cool New Music section, so I THINK it went. I know it didn't pick up much, but I'm pretty sure Ellie Goulding and Katy Perry's follow-ups to their breakthrough hits (which both charted on alternative just like "Habits") were sent as well, and did nothing ("Hot N Cold" even had a rock mix). Even so, I can't imagine why that would influence them to change what they're sending to CHR. But who knows? The political nature of record labels is...complicated to say the least.
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Dec 12, 2014 18:06:15 GMT -5
So, the label panics and pulls a switch the second single because of underwhelming response from radio djs and the fact that no large market started spinning it before the adds date. So surely she won't be a one-hit-wonder now. Oh Swedish meatballs, take the pain away and fill my belly with hope.
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Post by kanimal on Dec 12, 2014 23:53:53 GMT -5
would the switch to this possibly be the reason of the noneffect "not on drugs" had on impact on the alt format? as in was it kept from going for adds at the last moment (unless someone actually knows 100% that it did and just flopped - wouldn't surprise me, hearing that on the format would be more jarring to me than "habits" - and would be able to tell me)? also i still hold my opinion that the fun that is "my gun" would do pretty well. According to AllAccess, I remember it being on the adds list for November (was it 18th or 25th?) until it's adds date, and it's still under alt's Cool New Music section, so I THINK it went. I know it didn't pick up much, but I'm pretty sure Ellie Goulding and Katy Perry's follow-ups to their breakthrough hits (which both charted on alternative just like "Habits") were sent as well, and did nothing ("Hot N Cold" even had a rock mix). Even so, I can't imagine why that would influence them to change what they're sending to CHR. But who knows? The political nature of record labels is...complicated to say the least. Not on Drugs is also still listed under Republic Playbook's alternative section, with has said it's been live ("impacting now") at radio for a while and received early spins from some key stations. There is every reason to believe it did go for adds and just didn't click. I can't imagine a poor reception from alternative not playing a role here, but I similarly couldn't imagine anyone thinking alt would go nuts for this song. If it didn't latch onto Habits as well as anticipated, why would it get excited for a poppier song that was once presented on the Internet as a Selena Gomez B-side? And as much as I think Talking Body is an infinitely better song, it's not like I'd expect that to crush at alternative either. So while I assume the alt reception played a role, I'd hope Republic had more research than just that.
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Post by Green Baron on Dec 13, 2014 0:17:03 GMT -5
According to AllAccess, I remember it being on the adds list for November (was it 18th or 25th?) until it's adds date, and it's still under alt's Cool New Music section, so I THINK it went. I know it didn't pick up much, but I'm pretty sure Ellie Goulding and Katy Perry's follow-ups to their breakthrough hits (which both charted on alternative just like "Habits") were sent as well, and did nothing ("Hot N Cold" even had a rock mix). Even so, I can't imagine why that would influence them to change what they're sending to CHR. But who knows? The political nature of record labels is...complicated to say the least. Not on Drugs is also still listed under Republic Playbook's alternative section, with has said it's been live ("impacting now") at radio for a while and received early spins from some key stations. There is every reason to believe it did go for adds and just didn't click. I can't imagine a poor reception from alternative not playing a role here, but I similarly couldn't imagine anyone thinking alt would go nuts for this song. If it didn't latch onto Habits as well as anticipated, why would it get excited for a poppier song that was once presented on the Internet as a Selena Gomez B-side? And as much as I think Talking Body is an infinitely better song, it's not like I'd expect that to crush at alternative either. So while I assume the alt reception played a role, I'd hope Republic had more research than just that. Did anyone really anticipate Habits to do anything on Alt? Frankly, I think reaching #19 for a bona fide pop song is an accomplishment, even if the song's not very good. Anyways, I'm pretty sure Tove and her management couldn't care less about her Alt success. Everyone knows that even charting there was a fluke. She's a pop star in everyone's eyes now, so let's not try and build up this image of her being a rocker chick when frankly, Avril Lavigne can do that better than she does.
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Post by kanimal on Dec 13, 2014 0:22:54 GMT -5
Not on Drugs is also still listed under Republic Playbook's alternative section, with has said it's been live ("impacting now") at radio for a while and received early spins from some key stations. There is every reason to believe it did go for adds and just didn't click. I can't imagine a poor reception from alternative not playing a role here, but I similarly couldn't imagine anyone thinking alt would go nuts for this song. If it didn't latch onto Habits as well as anticipated, why would it get excited for a poppier song that was once presented on the Internet as a Selena Gomez B-side? And as much as I think Talking Body is an infinitely better song, it's not like I'd expect that to crush at alternative either. So while I assume the alt reception played a role, I'd hope Republic had more research than just that. Did anyone really anticipate Habits to do anything on Alt? Frankly, I think reaching #19 for a bona fide pop song is an accomplishment, even if the song's not very good.Anyways, I'm pretty sure Tove and her management couldn't care less about her Alt success. Everyone knows that even charting there was a fluke. She's a pop star in everyone's eyes now, so let's not try and build up this image of her being a rocker chick when frankly, Avril Lavigne can do that better than she does. If you were to have played me "Habits" and say, "Do you think this will go top ten at alt," I would have said no. But it actually seemed to have a ton of momentum when it first started climbing alt airplay chart, which did make it somewhat surprising when it stalled around 20. Billboard also featured the song in its "Tomorrow's Hits" column back when it was exclusively on rock formats (I believe Republic Playbook had confirmed a future pop impact at that point, but Billboard makes no mention of a multi-format push in its column). You saw similar (albeit slightly more successful) examples with Priory's "Weekend" and Lorde's "Yellow Flicker Beat" (granted, they were more successful, and one features a major multi-format star, but the hot climbs followed by sudden halts were similar). You don't necessarily listen to either and expect them to be alternative smashes, but when you see them easily scoring adds and quickly surging up the chart, it comes as a bit of a shock when they just stop dead in their tracks. -- I do completely agree with your other point -- that pop is a bigger priority for Republic -- but at the end of the day, they still sent her new single to alternative radio long before they did pop, so they absolutely expected it to get some sort of independent reception from that format.
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Post by Cody on Dec 13, 2014 13:44:46 GMT -5
Not on Drugs is also still listed under Republic Playbook's alternative section, with has said it's been live ("impacting now") at radio for a while and received early spins from some key stations. There is every reason to believe it did go for adds and just didn't click. I can't imagine a poor reception from alternative not playing a role here, but I similarly couldn't imagine anyone thinking alt would go nuts for this song. If it didn't latch onto Habits as well as anticipated, why would it get excited for a poppier song that was once presented on the Internet as a Selena Gomez B-side? And as much as I think Talking Body is an infinitely better song, it's not like I'd expect that to crush at alternative either. So while I assume the alt reception played a role, I'd hope Republic had more research than just that. Did anyone really anticipate Habits to do anything on Alt? Frankly, I think reaching #19 for a bona fide pop song is an accomplishment, even if the song's not very good. Anyways, I'm pretty sure Tove and her management couldn't care less about her Alt success. Everyone knows that even charting there was a fluke. She's a pop star in everyone's eyes now, so let's not try and build up this image of her being a rocker chick when frankly, Avril Lavigne can do that better than she does. Ah, I was wondering where your agenda went. No one presents their opinion as if it's indisputable fact quite like you do. But I digress. My local station in a small Canadian city just played this, so that's a good sign I guess. Especially since it's so rare that they play songs before they're top 25-30 in the US.
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Post by Green Baron on Dec 13, 2014 13:46:38 GMT -5
Did anyone really anticipate Habits to do anything on Alt? Frankly, I think reaching #19 for a bona fide pop song is an accomplishment, even if the song's not very good. Anyways, I'm pretty sure Tove and her management couldn't care less about her Alt success. Everyone knows that even charting there was a fluke. She's a pop star in everyone's eyes now, so let's not try and build up this image of her being a rocker chick when frankly, Avril Lavigne can do that better than she does. Ah, I was wondering where your agenda went. No one presents their opinion as if it's indisputable fact quite like you do. But I digress. My local station in a small Canadian city just played this, so that's a good sign I guess. I'm done. I can't do this anymore.
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Post by Fancy on Dec 16, 2014 22:38:18 GMT -5
another two adds. reassuring!
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Post by kanimal on Dec 16, 2014 23:42:46 GMT -5
another two adds. reassuring! Including B96 in Chicago (Hits Daily Double says it's also on Sirius XM Hits 1 now, but the other add listed in Mediabase is Live 101.5 in Phoenix)! Happy to see the early radio interest - makes me more confident it was the right choice - but it's worth noting that the big stations have been very quick to add follow-ups to #1s (Break the Rules got KIIS early, In Your Arms was on Z100 within a week or two) and don't necessarily commit to them for the long haul. The other bad news is that Tove Lo's sidelined due to vocal cord cysts for a few months. Promo probably wouldn't have started for this until February anyway, but it's A) never good to see a talented performer struggle with an ailment and B) never good when someone isn't even able to sing their song.
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