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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 15:56:27 GMT -5
Well listening to there two preview songs It's On Tonight looks to be a song that could be a smash I'm hopeful. I know to expect a single right away but unless we get some housecleaning Gloriana once again might not get another Top 30.
It just sucks there's no clear path for a Top 20 with this cause it's only gonna last a few more weeks maybe news of the album being dropped will give this one last push.
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Post by sgtoddball on May 20, 2015 10:11:09 GMT -5
I also listened to the 2 new songs available and my thought was wth made them ever release "trouble"? Trouble is a nice song but it was never something I felt like was a sure fire radio hit. Also, the track list looks like a solid list of songwriters contributed to the album.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 10:15:46 GMT -5
Well it's not like Wanna Get To Know You would be a good hit that's just so bland and faceless It's On Tonight just screams a smash hut it feels like everything Wanna Take Ya Home tried to be but failed short it just screams something radio would eat up.
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Post by sgtoddball on May 20, 2015 10:41:19 GMT -5
Well it's not like Wanna Get To Know You would be a good hit that's just so bland and faceless It's On Tonight just screams a smash hut it feels like everything Wanna Take Ya Home tried to be but failed short it just screams something radio would eat up. Wanna Get to Know You is more instant than trouble for me. It's On Tonight definitely would sell better imo than trouble but no guarantee radio would eat it up since wanna take you home seemed like a sure fire radio hit that never took off.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 10:52:49 GMT -5
Wanna Take You Home to me didn't feel like a hit no real melody and no real hook . Wanna Get To Know you just doesn't for me
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 5:19:33 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post but I can say that this song is done down 132 spins to last week. Gloriana's also down nearly 1000K in audience. The good news is this might get a grace,week since the nasty Mediabase update was after the week was counted for. Regardless I'm mad no scratched that I'm livid. I understand play the popular artist first but I'd imagine if the digital sales were there this probably would've been in the Too 20 but nope. Oh well Gloriana should release It's On Tonight. Has smash written all over it.
Gloriana Trouble Peak MB Peak #22 BB Peak #24. It did pretty well at least the album will come out.
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Post by sabre14 on May 26, 2015 12:49:24 GMT -5
Gloriana's also down nearly 1000K in audience. Down 1.0 million in audience on MB over the past 9 days. :) This one is definitely over. The bottom hasn't completely fallen out on "Trouble" as Warner hasn't pulled the plug quite yet, but 1.0 million in audience and 128 spins lost over a nine day stretch is just too much to overcome.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 12:52:31 GMT -5
Well I'm proud of this song but well I just can't. Do you think it'll last for one final week on Billboard. Here's how I feel about it m.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQThis is justified.
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Post by dajire4 on May 26, 2015 14:01:30 GMT -5
But Trouble did way better than it deserved if we take into account its abysmal sales. This is not Kacey Musgraves or Jana Kramer struggling to hit the top 40 with a song actually selling; this is Gloriana scoring a top 25 hit with a song that has sold basically nothing. As much as I may like Trouble, in no way was this treated poorly by radio imho.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 26, 2015 15:56:15 GMT -5
As much as I'm a bit disappointed this didn't at least make Top 20 because I love the song, I can't fault radio for taking it this far, because it definitely wasn't selling and Gloriana isn't a big name act. I'm more surprised at how bad the sales are -- I thought this was great personally and I'm pretty surprised that this didn't sell a lot better (like at least in the 200 or 300s on iTunes or so). Maybe if they'd become more visible again their sales would go up. The band itself just seems like it isn't "around" anymore, like I never see or hear about them at all in the past couple years. I'm really glad they're dropping the album anyway, and I hope they've got a smash hit or two to resurrect their career again.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 16:06:50 GMT -5
I think they should've put a music video out it would've helped them getting it talking. Right now though I'm just thinking the guy-girl group Lady A Gloriana they're just not popular anymore. I do think a music video could've helped this song. Hopefully they can get a hit off the album.
But hopefully they release It's On Tonight. The Rachel lead songs are just so much better than that other guy that guys voice is so bland and vanilla. But they've got a fan out of me.
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Post by trebor on May 26, 2015 16:12:05 GMT -5
The streaming figures are dismal; there's zero interest for this song on YouTube. What Gloriana has managed to accumulate in 7 months is shattered by Luke Bryan in 3 days; this is the magnitude we're talking here about.
The fact that the song is not on Spotify doesn't really help, either. [Edited: Some networks/territories may be blocked] "Trouble" was cute and interesting at the beginning but now after 31 chart weeks it's time to let go; nonetheless, it will be remembered as a good Gloriana tune whiel other songs that peak/peaked much higher will go forgotten by the end of next year.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 16:20:16 GMT -5
trebor, are you saying that "Trouble" isn't on Spotify? I am able to stream it on Spotify and it currently has over 4 million streams. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post, lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 16:20:39 GMT -5
The streaming figures are dismal; there's zero interest for this song on YouTube. What Gloriana has managed to accumulate in 7 months is shattered by Luke Bryan in 3 days; this is the magnitude we're talking here about. The fact that the song is not on Spotify doesn't really help, either. "Trouble" was cute and interesting at the beginning but now after 31 chart weeks it's time to let go; nonetheless, it will be remembered as a good Gloriana tune whiel other songs that peak/peaked much higher will go forgotten by the end of next year. I doubt Trouble will be remembered :(. But give credit for holding on so long. Congrats though on predicting at most Top 25 you nailed the ,ax it would go. I remember when it gained 16 spots in November but after that it just hit a brick wall and just kept slipping thru the cracks. Now when the chart is stacked they couldn't hold on. But I give credit to the label. I say for their album I predict 1k-5k sold in the first week since no one really cares for these guys :'(.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 26, 2015 16:21:19 GMT -5
The fact that the song is not on Spotify doesn't really help, either. It is on Spotify though. It has almost 4.3 million streams on there, which is significantly more than they have on YouTube.
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Post by trebor on May 26, 2015 16:30:31 GMT -5
trebor, are you saying that "Trouble" isn't on Spotify? I am able to stream it on Spotify and it currently has over 4 million streams. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post, lol. The fact that the song is not on Spotify doesn't really help, either. It is on Spotify though. It has almost 4.3 million streams on there, which is significantly more than they have on YouTube. I can't access it. "Trouble" is somehow being blocked on my system. I can see that the song exists but it's not bolded; it's like translucent and when I try to click on it, Spotify just jumps to the next song in line. Spotify is acting very weird lately (freemium); and I only use it for sampling.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 26, 2015 16:45:27 GMT -5
That's weird, trebor. Where do you live?
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Post by trebor on May 26, 2015 17:00:05 GMT -5
[... Edited ...] "Trouble" was cute and interesting at the beginning but now after 31 chart weeks it's time to let go; nonetheless, it will be remembered as a good Gloriana tune whiel other songs that peak/peaked much higher will go forgotten by the end of next year. I doubt Trouble will be remembered :(. But give credit for holding on so long. Congrats though on predicting at most Top 25 you nailed the ,ax it would go. I remember when it gained 16 spots in November but after that it just hit a brick wall and just kept slipping thru the cracks. Now when the chart is stacked they couldn't hold on. But I give credit to the label. I say for their album I predict 1k-5k sold in the first week since no one really cares for these guys :'(. It's a good country song and country fans who are looking for the finer things and critics alike will certainly remember this song. When you personally don't like it doesn't automatically mean that anybody else doesn't as well. Sales tally prediction: Don't know because I'm not engaged in this. Sales have slumped quite a bit lately. Last bolded half-sentence: This is purely your very own personal opinion and perception; and on top of that: totally arrogant and rude.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 17:05:08 GMT -5
I doubt Trouble will be remembered :(. But give credit for holding on so long. Congrats though on predicting at most Top 25 you nailed the ,ax it would go. I remember when it gained 16 spots in November but after that it just hit a brick wall and just kept slipping thru the cracks. Now when the chart is stacked they couldn't hold on. But I give credit to the label. I say for their album I predict 1k-5k sold in the first week since no one really cares for these guys :'(. It's a good country song and country fans who are looking for the finer things and critics alike will certainly remember this song. When you personally don't like it doesn't automatically mean that anybody else doesn't as well. Sales tally prediction: Don't know because I'm not engaged in this. Sales have slumped quite a bit lately. Last bolded half-sentence: This is purely your very own personal opinion and perception; and on top of that: totally arrogant and rude. No I'm not trying to be rude. The thing is these guys though as evident by the digital sales. What I meant is no one cares enough to buy their music. Look I want Trouble to be remembered more than anything but between abysmal sales and well no momentum I see this being forgotten. Like I Love Gloriana's music but I don't see the album selling really at all. :'(
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Post by trebor on May 26, 2015 17:28:38 GMT -5
It's a good country song and country fans who are looking for the finer things and critics alike will certainly remember this song. When you personally don't like it doesn't automatically mean that anybody else doesn't as well. Sales tally prediction: Don't know because I'm not engaged in this. Sales have slumped quite a bit lately. Last bolded half-sentence: This is purely your very own personal opinion and perception; and on top of that: totally arrogant and rude. No I'm not trying to be rude. The thing is these guys though as evident by the digital sales. What I meant is no one cares enough to buy their music. Look I want Trouble to be remembered more than anything but between abysmal sales and well no momentum I see this being forgotten. Like I Love Gloriana's music but I don't see the album selling really at all. :'( OK. Right. :) However, a good portion of the songs that we remember from the past were never in the Billboard Hot 100 or remarkable sales hits; and some were never issued as a proper single. The equation "Sales + Chart Peak = Legacy" isn't always true; and statistically the biggest group of music consumers are the ones who don't buy recorded music. Gloriana sales: Have really no idea; the album goes on sale on Tuesday!
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 26, 2015 17:41:31 GMT -5
I really don't think this will be remembered, lol. The only single they've put out to date that has really had any lasting impact is "(Kissed You) Good Night." Even "Wild at Heart," which was pretty successful at the time, has been largely forgotten. I love the song and all, but realistically this isn't going to be getting any recurrent airplay down the road. If radio feels the need to spin a Gloriana song, it'll be "(Kissed You) Good Night," unless they can surprise us with a big hit off the new album yet.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 5:47:21 GMT -5
It's too soon to say that this one is done yet. I realize that it had a really rough week on Mediabase, but a lot of other songs did as well, probably because we had a couple of high profile releases and it was a holiday weekend.
"Trouble" is up about 300k on MB this morning. A song that was 'done' would not gain 300k. Ultimately I think this song has probably peaked (in terms of chart position) but it's really not falling yet.
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Post by sabre14 on May 27, 2015 13:05:31 GMT -5
It's too soon to say that this one is done yet. I realize that it had a really rough week on Mediabase, but a lot of other songs did as well, probably because we had a couple of high profile releases and it was a holiday weekend. "Trouble" is up about 300k on MB this morning. A song that was 'done' would not gain 300k. Ultimately I think this song has probably peaked (in terms of chart position) but it's really not falling yet. Warner is still promoting it but "Trouble" will not be doing much more than where its at. The album comes out next week and the week after it comes out is when I expect them to let this go. No other song from 12-30 on MB's chart this past week lost anywhere close to what "Trouble" lost other than Paslay (his song is obviously finished) and Luke's "Games", which will go no higher with "Kick The Dust Up" debuting.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 13:09:51 GMT -5
It's too soon to say that this one is done yet. I realize that it had a really rough week on Mediabase, but a lot of other songs did as well, probably because we had a couple of high profile releases and it was a holiday weekend. "Trouble" is up about 300k on MB this morning. A song that was 'done' would not gain 300k. Ultimately I think this song has probably peaked (in terms of chart position) but it's really not falling yet. Warner is still promoting it but "Trouble" will not be doing much more than where its at. The album comes out next week and the week after it comes out is when I expect them to let this go. No other song from 12-30 on MB's chart this past week lost anywhere close to what "Trouble" lost other than Paslay (his song is obviously finished) and Luke's "Games", which will go no higher with "Kick The Dust Up" debuting. Wait a minute how are they still promoting it. In the add in Aircheck they had Frankie Dan + Shay and Jana Kramer. No Gloriana you'd figure this song would start free falling.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on May 27, 2015 13:21:49 GMT -5
Warner is still promoting it but "Trouble" will not be doing much more than where its at. The album comes out next week and the week after it comes out is when I expect them to let this go. No other song from 12-30 on MB's chart this past week lost anywhere close to what "Trouble" lost other than Paslay (his song is obviously finished) and Luke's "Games", which will go no higher with "Kick The Dust Up" debuting. Wait a minute how are they still promoting it. In the add in Aircheck they had Frankie Dan + Shay and Jana Kramer. No Gloriana you'd figure this song would start free falling. Just because there is no add for gloriana in the aircheck doesnt mean they aren't promoting behind the scenes. :) Hoping this can keep going and hit top 20.
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Post by sabre14 on May 27, 2015 13:24:56 GMT -5
Warner is still promoting it but "Trouble" will not be doing much more than where its at. The album comes out next week and the week after it comes out is when I expect them to let this go. No other song from 12-30 on MB's chart this past week lost anywhere close to what "Trouble" lost other than Paslay (his song is obviously finished) and Luke's "Games", which will go no higher with "Kick The Dust Up" debuting. Wait a minute how are they still promoting it. In the add in Aircheck they had Frankie Dan + Shay and Jana Kramer. No Gloriana you'd figure this song would start free falling. There doesn't have to be an ad in Aircheck or Billboard for a label to be promoting a song. "Trouble" hasn't had many ads in Billboard or Aircheck in its chart run now that I think of it. Like jhomes87 said, this gained nearly 300k in audience today (losing 15 spins), which means Warner is still promoting it. Its clearly on life support though and I expect this to be let go once their album drops. You'll know when they drop promotion because it will fall like rock, lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 13:25:56 GMT -5
Wait a minute how are they still promoting it. In the add in Aircheck they had Frankie Dan + Shay and Jana Kramer. No Gloriana you'd figure this song would start free falling. Just because there is no add for gloriana in the aircheck doesnt mean they aren't promoting behind the scenes. :) Hoping this can keep going and hit top 20. If this goes Top 20 than I'm gonna get a tattoo (just kidding but seriously it ain't happening.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 23:02:53 GMT -5
I could see this going recurrent on Monday's Billboard chart, actually. All I'm saying is that it's not quite done yet. If it were, it wouldn't have gained 300k today.
I don't expect it to do well as we finish the week, though, and in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it started shedding audience (hence why I said that I could see it going recurrent on Monday).
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 9:02:30 GMT -5
I do think this is done, and like raylatch98 pointed out, I don't think if WAR were still pushing this they would've posted an ad in this week's Country Aircheck for three artists whose singles aren't doing nearly as poorly as "Trouble" and left out mention of Gloriana. The 300k gain yesterday was comparable to the 258k gain Jake Owen's "What We Ain't Got" posted on 3/31, even though RCA had pulled the plug on Jake's single by that time. As jhomes87 explained in the thread for "What We Ain't Got," some stations wait until after the weekly airplay charts come out to adjust their playlists for the week, and since the charts were released Tuesday evening, it is possible some stations waited 'til Wednesday to pull "Trouble" from rotation. It would've been beneficial if this could have stayed alive just one week more to maximize Gloriana's album sales, but "Trouble" has still had a respectable chart run for such a poor seller.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 9:17:40 GMT -5
I'm proud of Trouble I really am it just bites seeing this song leaving. I do think if the digital sales would've came for this song it could've managed a Top 20 peak but. Well I don't know what is it about Gloriana that makes people not want to buy their music. With the exception of (Kissed You) Good Night there sales have been awful. I am glad Trouble squeaked in a Top 25 peak. Hopefully their album sells well but I don't even know if that album will sell 1,000 copies because it's clear listeners don't care that much for this group. Maybe they'll album will sell decently and re-spark their momentum but it's gonna be interesting how the songs after Trouble. My advice release It's On Tonight. I think it could sell well it's radio-friendly it has a more country-pop feel which radio lately loves along with the R&B stuff. Rachel is on lead which while risky could help because she appears to be the main person for Gloriana (for the better I think it's Mike or Tom whichever one I can't stand when they sing solo and is why I hate their biggest hit. I'm scared though these guys won't get a hit though.
The official peaks #22 MB #24 BB. It's tough to swallow but it's for the best.
Funny Gloriana debuted due to a housecleaning and will leave with a housecleaning.
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