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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 24, 2014 12:17:56 GMT -5
Whatever positivity I gave these guys with "Dirt" is officially gone. I'm far from a prude , but come on. Have we seriously sunk to THIS in country music? From truck sex to kitchen sex? What kind of douche thinks the world really needs to know where he puts his pink umbrella? Perhaps they could cut some of David Allan Coes "classy" underground material next. Their 5 minutes of fame cant run out quick enough.... At least they are moving inside.
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Post by matty005 on Sept 24, 2014 12:19:21 GMT -5
Whatever positivity I gave these guys with "Dirt" is officially gone. I'm far from a prude , but come on. Have we seriously sunk to THIS in country music? From truck sex to kitchen sex? What kind of douche thinks the world really needs to know where he puts his pink umbrella? Perhaps they could cut some of David Allan Coes "classy" underground material next. Their 5 minutes of fame cant run out quick enough....They're way beyond 15 minutes. They have had radio hits for 2+ years now. They have a platinum album (multi?), they have gone on tour with some of the biggest names in country music and their next CD will sell huge. Like them, love them, hate them, they're not just 15 minute wonders. Their fame won't last forever, but they're going to be around at least a while longer.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 24, 2014 12:19:51 GMT -5
Their 5 minutes of fame cant run out quick enough.... At least they are moving inside. [/quote] I just hope disinfection is involved.... Whatever positivity I gave these guys with "Dirt" is officially gone. I'm far from a prude , but come on. Have we seriously sunk to THIS in country music? From truck sex to kitchen sex? What kind of douche thinks the world really needs to know where he puts his pink umbrella? Perhaps they could cut some of David Allan Coes "classy" underground material next. Their 5 minutes of fame cant run out quick enough....They're way beyond 15 minutes. They have had radio hits for 2+ years now. They have a platinum album (multi?), they have gone on tour with some of the biggest names in country music and their next CD will sell huge. Like them, love them, hate them, they're not just 15 minute wonders. Their fame won't last forever, but they're going to be around at least a while longer. Gretchen Wilson , Billy Ray Cyrus & Deana Carter send their regards. I know the country industry has changed a ton since those artist came & went but it seems the faster an artist rises , the faster they sink. Maybe I'm wrong and they will be doing stadium tours in twenty years but releasing material that includes penis and vagina innuendos to a format that many still consider to be a kid friendly genre doesn't sound like the greatest recipe for long term success.
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Post by joey2002 on Sept 24, 2014 13:44:58 GMT -5
There'll be a radio edit for this with altered lyrics. There'll jsut have to be or some of the more 'conservative' stations will NOT touch it. The line about the "sink and the "pink drink stick" originally passed me by but the innuendo is way too racy for radio, the lines about getting laid and high will be ok. Do you really think parents want little kids running around singing "All I wanna do today is wear my favorite shades and get stoned"? That will absolutely need to be edited, since "stoned" is part of an extremely catchy chorus. Many country stations have always had radio edits for clear drug references in songs anyway. The "pink umbrella" line is what really bothers me though. I've seriously just about had it with country radio. Can you blame them for releasing this?? Yes.
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Post by matty005 on Sept 24, 2014 13:58:44 GMT -5
Their 5 minutes of fame cant run out quick enough.... At least they are moving inside. I just hope disinfection is involved.... They're way beyond 15 minutes. They have had radio hits for 2+ years now. They have a platinum album (multi?), they have gone on tour with some of the biggest names in country music and their next CD will sell huge. Like them, love them, hate them, they're not just 15 minute wonders. Their fame won't last forever, but they're going to be around at least a while longer. Gretchen Wilson , Billy Ray Cyrus & Deana Carter send their regards. I know the country industry has changed a ton since those artist came & went but it seems the faster an artist rises , the faster they sink. Maybe I'm wrong and they will be doing stadium tours in twenty years but releasing material that includes penis and vagina innuendos to a format that many still consider to be a kid friendly genre doesn't sound like the greatest recipe for long term success.[/quote] Agreed about all those artists. Maybe we have a different definition of "15 minutes of fame." None of those people you named only had 15 minutes. Yes their time was brief and didn't have the longevity of some artists, but they weren't just a flash in the pan.
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Post by #brayden on Sept 24, 2014 14:06:02 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about this one because some of the lyrics are really horrible. Part of me wonders how many songs they have to write "Bacardi" or some form of "Jack in my coke" into before it gets old. The innuendo in the second verse is the worst part of it, though. The rest doesn't bother me nearly as much. I imagine this will still be a hit for them.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 24, 2014 14:27:09 GMT -5
There'll be a radio edit for this with altered lyrics. There'll jsut have to be or some of the more 'conservative' stations will NOT touch it. The line about the "sink and the "pink drink stick" originally passed me by but the innuendo is way too racy for radio, the lines about getting laid and high will be ok. Do you really think parents want little kids running around singing "All I wanna do today is wear my favorite shades and get stoned"? That will absolutely need to be edited, since "stoned" is part of an extremely catchy chorus. Many country stations have always had radio edits for clear drug references in songs anyway. The "pink umbrella" line is what really bothers me though. I've seriously just about had it with country radio. Can you blame them for releasing this?? Yes. That's the problem with the 'sippy-cup' image of country radio cultivated in the late 1990s/2000s. This is not a genre that was traditionally 'family friendly' all of the time. Nor should it be now. There are more people than just families listening to the songs. Sure, a radio edit w/"Stoned" blanked out or changed could be removed but it isn't needed, at least to me. That being said, if they do edit it "lay low" might be a good line instead. I don't know how you take out the sink/pink drink stick line...
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 24, 2014 14:31:18 GMT -5
Do you really think parents want little kids running around singing "All I wanna do today is wear my favorite shades and get stoned"? That will absolutely need to be edited, since "stoned" is part of an extremely catchy chorus. Many country stations have always had radio edits for clear drug references in songs anyway. The "pink umbrella" line is what really bothers me though. I've seriously just about had it with country radio. Yes. That's the problem with the 'sippy-cup' image of country radio cultivated in the late 1990s/2000s. This is not a genre that was traditionally 'family friendly' all of the time. Nor should it be now. There are more people than just families listening to the songs. Sure, a radio edit w/"Stoned" blanked out or changed could be removed but it isn't needed, at least to me. That being said, if they do edit it "lay low" might be a good line instead. I don't know how you take out the sink/pink drink stick line...They're gonna have to just change the whole lyric with that part of the song. I don't think anyone listening will not get that ill conceived innuendo. There will be a radio edit, but how far will it go is what I'm wondering.
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Post by mylifeback on Sept 24, 2014 14:38:03 GMT -5
Did Kacey Musgraves get edited in Follow Your Arrow with the "roll up a joint" line? I know her TV performance(s) were edited to exclude that. Just wondering.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 24, 2014 16:12:50 GMT -5
I don't see the connection between country music and songs that aren't edgy, or have sexual innuendo. Country music isn't rated G as a whole. I'm perfectly fine with a couple of racier songs on the chart every now then, although I respect anyone's decision to not enjoy them. There's so much innuendo in songs these days, and there always has been. I also don't think they'll need to edit out the "Stoned" line either, seeing how This Is How We Roll had the "rollin' high" line. The "pink umbrella" line is definitely sexual innuendo, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Some won't like that line, and some won't mind it. I'm really more upset about them choosing this single over "Anything Goes".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 19:41:24 GMT -5
I also don't think they'll need to edit out the "Stoned" line either, seeing how This Is How We Roll had the "rollin' high" line. The 'stoned' line will almost certainly be changed. This is what they said to Rolling Stone: I'd be been stunned if they don't change it. I can't remember any other recent songs with that lyric in them. As to the 'rollin' high' lyric in "This Is How We Roll", I think that was a bit different, mostly because the phrasing was "you know we rollin' high up on them 37 Nittos". Obviously that's a bit of innuendo as well but the way Tyler sang it, it was also implied that they were just 'high up' due to the big tires. Anyway, we've had vague references to 'getting high' but usually it's with lyrics like "Hey I'm a little drunk on you and high on summertime" or when JT Hodges sang "I'm already high, I'm already high, I'm already high on you" (of course JT's song didn't even chart but that has more to do with his label situation rather than his song's lyrics). We did have the 'toke' line in "Wagon Wheel", and maybe I'm in the minority or maybe this shows my age, but I honestly had no idea what 'toke' meant. I thought for the longest time that Darius was singing 'talk' instead of 'toke'. Let's also not forget that Eric Church had to edit "Smoke A Little Smoke". The album version lyrics include 'dig down deep, find my stash, light it up, take me back/memory crash' but for the radio edit those lines were changed...'stash' became 'glass' and 'light it up' became 'fill it up'. Back to "Sun Daze"...I don't think they'll change the pink umbrella lyric because if you read it literally, it's harmless. Now of course I think it's a pretty obvious double entendre but honestly I really think that it'll go over a lot of people's heads. I don't think too many FGL fans are interested in their music due to "well-written lyrics". Most people that like these guys seem to enjoy their music because it's fun party music (which to me is why it belongs on pop stations, but I digress...) I don't really expect them to be questioned about the pink umbrella lyric though. I'm sure other fans will catch on but I think plenty of people won't get it, too, and I just don't foresee it being a question asked to them in interviews (as in "so, what did you REALLY mean by the pink umbrella line?" wink wink) or anything that they'll have to respond to. Obviously I take issue with that lyric (because it's plain stupid and disgusting) but because it's not a blatant reference to something that's "rated R" (like marijuana is) or whatever you want to call it, I think they'll leave it as is. But of course I just have issues with the entire song as a whole. The way they don't finish their words drives me nuts. "The way that it's goin' this keg gon' be floatin'" and "the way that we're feelin' we gone by this evening". I know there's always been improper grammar in many country songs but the lyrics in "Sun Daze" and many bro-country tunes are just so juvenile, and it seems like the trend is only worsening.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 24, 2014 20:10:05 GMT -5
Obviously I take issue with that lyric (because it's plain stupid and disgusting) but because it's not a blatant reference to something that's "rated R" (like marijuana is) or whatever you want to call it, I think they'll leave it as is. But of course I just have issues with the entire song as a whole. The way they don't finish their words drives me nuts. "The way that it's goin' this keg gon' be floatin'" and "the way that we're feelin' we gone by this evening". I know there's always been improper grammar in many country songs but the lyrics in "Sun Daze" and many bro-country tunes are just so juvenile, and it seems like the trend is only worsening. I understand what your saying, but I think this song is more representing of what our culture has become, at least what the college crowd has grown into. Only 1 year removed from undergrad, I definitely heard a lot of kids talking like they do in this song. Obviously that doesn't mean everyone, but it was a decent amount. This song is really about pleasing on group of people: the 18-25 age group, specifically college kids and grad kids. It's similar to Pop music, where more adults choose to listen to Hot AC so they can avoid trash like "Anaconda" (geez that song is awful).
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 24, 2014 20:13:48 GMT -5
Did Kacey Musgraves get edited in Follow Your Arrow with the "roll up a joint" line? I know her TV performance(s) were edited to exclude that. Just wondering. I sure hope not. It would've been such a waste of time to go and come up with a radio edit for a song that radio never even bothered to play anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 20:25:22 GMT -5
Obviously I take issue with that lyric (because it's plain stupid and disgusting) but because it's not a blatant reference to something that's "rated R" (like marijuana is) or whatever you want to call it, I think they'll leave it as is. But of course I just have issues with the entire song as a whole. The way they don't finish their words drives me nuts. "The way that it's goin' this keg gon' be floatin'" and "the way that we're feelin' we gone by this evening". I know there's always been improper grammar in many country songs but the lyrics in "Sun Daze" and many bro-country tunes are just so juvenile, and it seems like the trend is only worsening. I understand what your saying, but I think this song is more representing of what our culture has become, at least what the college crowd has grown into. Only 1 year removed from undergrad, I definitely heard a lot of kids talking like they do in this song. Obviously that doesn't mean everyone, but it was a decent amount. This song is really about pleasing on group of people: the 18-25 age group, specifically college kids and grad kids. It's similar to Pop music, where more adults choose to listen to Hot AC so they can avoid trash like "Anaconda" (geez that song is awful). I completely agree...personally I choose to listen to Country so I can avoid trash like "Anaconda." And because it is (or at least was) musically and lyrically rich. At what point are the lines going to be so blurred between country and pop that new stations will need to be created that play just the old-school country? The other day I started my car and for a split second I wondered how the radio got switched to the pop station and I was hearing Jason Derulo. Then I realized it was just Burnin' It Down. What a sad drive home that was.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 20:41:02 GMT -5
The production in this reminds me of Carrie's "One Way Ticket"; the vocals however do not.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 25, 2014 2:08:48 GMT -5
Did Kacey Musgraves get edited in Follow Your Arrow with the "roll up a joint" line? I know her TV performance(s) were edited to exclude that. Just wondering. I only heard that on the radio once, but the "joint" line was edited out when I heard it. It wasn't replaced by anything; they just muted that line.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 25, 2014 8:41:45 GMT -5
^ Same here. I only heard it once on WATZ and I heard "Roll up a [muted], or don't."
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 25, 2014 10:05:52 GMT -5
^ Same here. I only heard it once on WATZ and I heard "Roll up a [muted], or don't." Which was a radio station edit, not something serviced to Play MPe.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Sept 25, 2014 13:14:39 GMT -5
I think it's just a fun song. I don't do drugs, but it's still a fun listen for me. I've yet to hate anything they put out. I do think Anything Goes would be a better single for them though.
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Post by gurustu on Sept 25, 2014 14:15:38 GMT -5
I couldn't even get through the first chorus, I shut it off in disgust midway through the chorus. I can't believe crap like this took 5 to 6 writers to write, however many are listed. It's absolutely awful and I personally hope this sinks FGL; just tired of hearing them on the radio and these kind of songs. Production wise it sounds basically like Kenney Chesney's "American Kids", which is much better of a song but regardless, who wants to hear a summertime song during the fall and winter season anyway! Total garbage, waste of space lyrics. I'm not a FGL fan however and never will be so they will never please me (so really my opinion on this song probably doesn't count for much). :) Will the teeny bopper girls still love them though? Sure thing and I'm sure this p.o.s. will be played several on the radio like all their other songs (probably every other hour if not every hour).
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Post by matty005 on Sept 25, 2014 18:23:16 GMT -5
I couldn't even get through the first chorus, I shut it off in disgust midway through the chorus. I can't believe crap like this took 5 to 6 writers to write, however many are listed. It's absolutely awful and I personally hope this sinks FGL; just tired of hearing them on the radio and these kind of songs. Production wise it sounds basically like Kenney Chesney's "American Kids", which is much better of a song but regardless, who wants to hear a summertime song during the fall and winter season anyway! Total garbage, waste of space lyrics. I'm not a FGL fan however and never will be so they will never please me (so really my opinion on this song probably doesn't count for much). :) Will the teeny bopper girls still love them though? Sure thing and I'm sure this p.o.s. will be played several on the radio like all their other songs (probably every other hour if not every hour). I really don't think that is who likes them nor who FGL have ever tried to appeal to. It's more of the "frat guys" who like this kind of music. In fact, many people even on this board called their music, "frat boy" before, "bro country" was coined.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Sept 25, 2014 20:22:52 GMT -5
So what's the radio edit going to be -- "All I want to do today is wear my favorite shades and get boned"? Because that would be at about the right level of class.
I would probably have less of a problem with the sexual innuendo here if Florida-Georgia Line's body of work didn't express such a low opinion of women. But the way that their songs consistently reduce women to scantily-clad sex objects with no agency of their own makes F-GL's sexual come-ons repugnant to my ears and problematic in general. We all have our biases and preferences, and mine is that the demographic of males who feel entitled to sex from females not be actively encouraged by the music in the genre where I focus most of my attention.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 25, 2014 20:38:17 GMT -5
So what's the radio edit going to be -- "All I want to do today is wear my favorite shades and get boned"? Because that would be at about the right level of class. "Get Boned" would imply that a male would have sexual intercourse with them, and I doubt that would fly on country radio lol
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Post by Markus Meyer on Sept 25, 2014 22:26:49 GMT -5
So what's the radio edit going to be -- "All I want to do today is wear my favorite shades and get boned"? Because that would be at about the right level of class. Matt suggested "lay low", seems like a reasonable scenario to me.
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Post by gurustu on Sept 26, 2014 10:03:20 GMT -5
They will keep it "get laid" I'm sure, but they will say they were talking in the sense of Honalulu type of lay to get away with it in order to keep it. Too many artists these days are trying to get the shock factor out and see how far they can take things sexually, so see what will and what won't fly on the radio these days. Keep this crap on NASH and The Highway, hoping to hell it doesn't go any further (but we already know it will)
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Post by jferstler on Sept 26, 2014 19:14:11 GMT -5
Country music isn't all sunshine and rainbows. I think that's a common misconception that I've seen over the last few years. Country has always had it's people that have crossed the line... Cash did it, Hank did it, Waylon, Coe, they sang about all aspects of life. Granted, not many sexual references but it's not FGL's fault that this is the type of stuff that people want to hear. It's not like they're pulling this stuff out of no where, this is real life stuff that the younger generation relates to. I'm not saying that I agree with it by any means but there is nothing that can be done about it. I'm happy with the balance that country radio has right now with songs like Lonely Eyes, Like A Cowboy, and a others that are decent songs along with songs like Ready Set Roll, Sundaze, or other songs that obviously appeal to the younger generation. You've got to remember, and admittedly sometimes I fail to realize this too, that not every radio listener cares about the lyrics or the story behind the song. They're going to the FGL concerts to get drunk off their ass and have a good time. They're not online critiquing every song they put out to see if it has enough fiddle or steel, or if the lyrics are deep or meaningful enough. Most people just want to buy their album on iTunes, plug their iPod into the speakers, set up the beer pong table, light the bonfire, grab the cold ones and call the girls. That's who FGL appeals to, not us... and like it or not (I don't) they do a damn good job at it.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 26, 2014 19:47:56 GMT -5
Country music isn't all sunshine and rainbows. I think that's a common misconception that I've seen over the last few years. Country has always had it's people that have crossed the line... Cash did it, Hank did it, Waylon, Coe, they sang about all aspects of life. Granted, not many sexual references but it's not FGL's fault that this is the type of stuff that people want to hear. It's not like they're pulling this stuff out of no where, this is real life stuff that the younger generation relates to. I'm not saying that I agree with it by any means but there is nothing that can be done about it. I'm happy with the balance that country radio has right now with songs like Lonely Eyes, Like A Cowboy, and a others that are decent songs along with songs like Ready Set Roll, Sundaze, or other songs that obviously appeal to the younger generation. You've got to remember, and admittedly sometimes I fail to realize this too, that not every radio listener cares about the lyrics or the story behind the song. They're going to the FGL concerts to get drunk off their ass and have a good time. They're not online critiquing every song they put out to see if it has enough fiddle or steel, or if the lyrics are deep or meaningful enough. Most people just want to buy their album on iTunes, plug their iPod into the speakers, set up the beer pong table, light the bonfire, grab the cold ones and call the girls. That's who FGL appeals to, not us... and like it or not (I don't) they do a damn good job at it. I think many understand what crowd they are attempting to cater to and there are fans out there who enjoy their music regardless of the lyrics or subject (I'm even friends with some). But in some people's opinions including my own, the lyrics in this song are complete and utter garbage. I do need to see an FGL fail first before I'm ready to predict it though. "Sun Daze" will be another hit for them regardless of the horrendous lyrics. To me many have accepted the fact that these guys are popular at the moment but this is a discussion board where opinions can be voiced.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 0:30:39 GMT -5
Is that Rolling Stone article all we have to confirm "Sun Daze" as the new single? If so, then I'm still skeptical that this Florida Georgia Line record will be the duo's next radio release, because the writer of the article clearly is confused about the whole situation. Here's what it says:
"Officially released as the follow-up single to Anything Goes' first Number One "Dirt," the song boasts a whistled intro and drum-line beat and stands as FGL's bid to keep the summer from ever ending."
Okay, "Daze" hasn't been officially released as the follow-up single yet, because the song to which it is a follow-up is still climbing the charts! The fellow who wrote this doesn't seem to understand that "Dirt" is still climbing the industry-standard airplay chart. If the article said something like, "officially confirmed to be the next single after "Dirt," then I'd be convinced, but this just seems too hazy for me.
There is a quote from Tyler Hubbard about a radio edit for the song, but this only confirms what was already pretty obvious, that "Daze" will eventually be a single, not so much that it is coming next. I guess we'd need context. I don't know about this, the article just seems too confusing and unclear. Do record labels really decide the next single this "far" in advance?
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 28, 2014 4:12:14 GMT -5
Is that Rolling Stone article all we have to confirm "Sun Daze" as the new single? If so, then I'm still skeptical that this Florida Georgia Line record will be the duo's next radio release, because the writer of the article clearly is confused about the whole situation. Here's what it says: "Officially released as the follow-up single to Anything Goes' first Number One "Dirt," the song boasts a whistled intro and drum-line beat and stands as FGL's bid to keep the summer from ever ending." Okay, "Daze" hasn't been officially released as the follow-up single yet, because the song to which it is a follow-up is still climbing the charts! The fellow who wrote this doesn't seem to understand that "Dirt" is still climbing the industry-standard airplay chart. If the article said something like, "officially confirmed to be the next single after "Dirt," then I'd be convinced, but this just seems too hazy for me. There is a quote from Tyler Hubbard about a radio edit for the song, but this only confirms what was already pretty obvious, that "Daze" will eventually be a single, not so much that it is coming next. I guess we'd need context. I don't know about this, the article just seems too confusing and unclear. Do record labels really decide the next single this "far" in advance? More often than not, the first and second singles for albums are already selected before the album ever drops in order to put the two singles with the largest motors behind the release and help drive sales in the first weeks of release. So, yeah, the label likely already knows what the second single will be, and maybe even the third and fourth singles, too. Album eras are usually planned out pretty extensively, including the division of when songs are released to radio (for Country, it's basically "Which single will be released in which trimester of the year?").
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Post by LBTrocks on Sept 28, 2014 11:32:57 GMT -5
I think "Sun Daze" might be the worst song they've released yet, although I have to say I think the title is kinda clever. I don't dig the island-y sound and it certainly doesn't jive with their grating voices or the production. It's catchy and it's FGL, so I'm sure radio will bombard us with this and it will do well for them, I'm just not looking forward to hearing it. Something good I can say about it is that I think the instrumental towards the end of the song is pretty cool and the chorus is melodic enough to be tolerable, but the lyrics, vocals, and the overall sound of this song makes it a station changer for me.
I feel whenever I talk about FGL on here I say nothing but extremely negative things about them, so to counteract that a bit I will say that I heard one of their new songs that I actually loved. It's called "If I Die Tomorrow" and I'm sure the production is way too rock for most on here, but I actually think it's a really great song. I'll never be a fan of their vocals, but it's a lot better in that song than most of what they release. I'll post it here in case anyone wants to check it out.
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