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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 23, 2014 12:45:33 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks that this sounds kinda like "Reality" with less muddy production? And "Reality" was one of the very few Kenny songs that did nothing for me. Even before he found himself artistically, I found much of his body work a cut above ("The Tin Man" is still one of my favorites), so it always gives me pause when he releases something that doesn't tickle my fancy. But at least with me, his worst material is only average and forgettable (except "Summertime", which was an average lyric with a terrible vocal).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 12:48:03 GMT -5
I've really come around to Kenny Chesney in recent years, but this does nothing for me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 13:17:07 GMT -5
I really like this song. It's nothing groundbreaking, but it's just a good vintage Kenny song. It's chart run is a bit surprising. Does anyone think this one will slow down going toward the top 5? It is still shockingly low at #46 on iTunes, currently behind Tyler Farr and Canaan Smith.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 16:10:09 GMT -5
Normally I'd say this would have to slow down before hitting #1, but the timing has just been so great that I'd now be surprised to see Kenny Chesney not get a #1 single with this release. "Til It's Gone" is climbing in the company of a 43-week-old song from Parmalee that isn't selling so amazingly itself, a 40-week-old Big & Rich song that is selling only a tad better than "Til It's Gone" and appears to have collapsed this week, and two other songs released by Sony Music Nashville (meaning that if Kenny starts stalling Sony can kill the momentum of "Perfect Storm" and "Something in the Water" to allow Kenny to get his week at #1). If this was going up at the same time as Kenny's last single, "American Kids," in the company of huge digital sellers such as "Drunk on a Plane," "Bartender," "Dirt," "Burnin' It Down," and "Roller Coaster," then Kenny would have some problems, but the competition in the top 10 is about as weak as it's been all year right now so I think this is a lock for #1.
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Post by spencer on Dec 4, 2014 9:49:20 GMT -5
Normally I'd say this would have to slow down before hitting #1, but the timing has just been so great that I'd now be surprised to see Kenny Chesney not get a #1 single with this release. "Til It's Gone" is climbing in the company of a 43-week-old song from Parmalee that isn't selling so amazingly itself, a 40-week-old Big & Rich song that is selling only a tad better than "Til It's Gone" and appears to have collapsed this week, and two other songs released by Sony Music Nashville (meaning that if Kenny starts stalling Sony can kill the momentum of "Perfect Storm" and "Something in the Water" to allow Kenny to get his week at #1). If this was going up at the same time as Kenny's last single, "American Kids," in the company of huge digital sellers such as "Drunk on a Plane," "Bartender," "Dirt," "Burnin' It Down," and "Roller Coaster," then Kenny would have some problems, but the competition in the top 10 is about as weak as it's been all year right now so I think this is a lock for #1. I wouldn't say the competition on the top ten is weak, if the only way another song can get ahead is to deliberately and manipulatively hold back songs that are obviously doing much better in sales, streaming and call out numbers and ..........spins. Oh and let's not forget the 'gender' factor. We are talking about, country radio, where the male rules supreme, regardless of quality, demand or sales, relatively speaking. No KC, and most if not all males on country chart can expect to do pretty well..The others, (i.e., females) should there be any, will just have to wait it out for .......whatever. By the way, I'm pretty sure pour post was meant to be sarcastic ......but I couldn't help myself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 13:10:46 GMT -5
When I said the competition was weak, I was mainly referring to the songs that have been in the top 10 for a few weeks, "Close Your Eyes," "Look at You," and this. In addition, by weak competition I meant that Kenny doesn't have to worry about being blocked by Brad or Carrie songs because even though those two are big hits, Sony Music Nashville can kill off their momentum to get Kenny's song more spins. No sarcasm was meant. I was just explaining why, even though this song is selling dismally on iTunes, it should have no trouble getting to #1.
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 10, 2014 22:37:04 GMT -5
Can anyone think of other top 5 songs by A-list stars that have sold as poorly as this one? I can't think of one off the top of my head, although I've only been making connections between airplay and sales for just over a year now. Still can't believe that this won't be anywhere near gold by the time it peaks.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 10, 2014 23:28:35 GMT -5
^ "Reality" and "Live A Little" did not go Gold when they both reached #1 so Kenny has done this before.
This is juts one of those super radio-friendly songs from a super star that, despite being popular among PD's and listeners, not enough for fans to purchase the song itself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 2:07:54 GMT -5
The only top 5 songs that I remember selling this poorly since country music has started selling well on iTunes are "Everything I Shouldn't Be Thinking About" and "Radio," both of which peaked at #4, which is why I can't imagine this being a solid Billboard #1 and think it must start struggling eventually. That's why I came to the conclusion that Kenny Chesney will get a Mediabase-only #1 while Carrie Underwood's "Something in the Water" gets two weeks at #1 on Billboard and one on Mediabase. It's unlikely that after climbing so quickly without struggling "Til It's Gone" will totally collapse and not get to #1 at all, but sales are too low for a Billboard #1. I do think Kenny Chesney is lucky with the timing of this song not only because he's going up in the company of two label mates and an old, weak hit from Parmalee, but also because this is a second single rather than a fourth or fifth and Kenny has a lot of momentum following up one of the bigger digital hits of the year, "American Kids," so he will have enough momentum to get a bit of a weaker seller into the top 2. I am pretty surprised to see sales so low and I don't think this was an unreasonable single choice, but for whatever reason listeners just really aren't interested in downloading this record. However, I'm sure other songs off this album, such as "Florabama" will do just fine on iTunes and the charts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2014 2:02:21 GMT -5
It's unlikely that after climbing so quickly without struggling "Til It's Gone" will totally collapse and not get to #1 at all, but sales are too low for a Billboard #1. I think you might be over-thinking this a bit. If this song can put up big enough audience numbers (and I see no reason why it wouldn't be able to, given how well it's researching and how strongly it's climbed so far), then it's going to get up to the top of the chart. I don't think radio stations are going to collectively get together and say "wow, this song hasn't sold well at all, we absolutely cannot let it get to #1 on Billboard" -- that's not really how it works. I have no doubt that this can get to #1 on Billboard. If it misses out, it likely won't have anything to do with sales numbers. IF this misses #1, a more likely situation would be "Til It's Gone" getting blocked by a bigger hit ("Something In The Water" being the most likely candidate to interfere)...and this can happen to any song, whether it's selling well or not at all (think "Meanwhile Back At Mama's" for a recent example). As sabre14 said (and I've said it as well), Kenny has had a couple of fairly recent #1's ("Live A Little" and "Reality") that didn't sell much at all. Those were sandwiched between huge Platinum hits "Somewhere With You" and "You And Tequila". The Hemingway's Whiskey album produced two Platinum #1's to start--"The Boys Of Fall" and "Somewhere With You"--and then 3rd single "Live A Little" flew to #1 but didn't come within a sniff of Gold sales status. Fourth single "You And Tequila" then peaked at #3 but cruised past Platinum sales status. I realize that iTunes sales didn't really explode until a handful of years ago, but if you look at Kenny's discography, 22 of his most recent 35 singles (dating back to 2002's "The Good Stuff" but not including "Til It's Gone") have gone at least Gold or higher. So "Til It's Gone" is in the minority but I don't think a lower sales figure would be the reason to blame if this song doesn't hit #1.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2014 2:22:11 GMT -5
^I wasn't saying I think this won't be "allowed" a Billboard #1 or anything like that. I just expect it to start slowing down/struggling in the top 5 like "Day Drinking" did and be unable to put up high enough audience, so it'd have to get a Mediabase-only #1 by working the points system with overnight spins, etc. If this does hit #1 on Billboard it might be the worst-selling #1 in at least two years.
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Post by someguy on Dec 14, 2014 13:07:59 GMT -5
I think you have to consider albums sales too when looking at single sales. Kenny's album has sold more than some of his contemporaries at this point too, so all of those people have the album and wouldn't be buying the single.
I'd be surprised to see it miss out on #1 at this point. I think it has a good shot at following Brad Paisley/ Parmalee at #1.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 17, 2014 19:47:33 GMT -5
Well Kenny's still chugging away as "Til It's Gone" is up to #3 on the rolling chart. I suspect this will go #1 on at least one of the charts by January. But I did hear The Highway start to play "Wild Child" this evening on my way home. Many have already suspected "Wild Child" to be next but the fact The Highway has started playing it makes me think that Columbia will opt for another "Live A Little"/"You And Tequila" situation here.
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Post by surfy on Dec 22, 2014 21:48:08 GMT -5
I am not a big Chesney fan, and this song is no exception...
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 27, 2014 15:21:41 GMT -5
#1 in Canada!
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 28, 2014 18:33:04 GMT -5
The only top 5 songs that I remember selling this poorly since country music has started selling well on iTunes are "Everything I Shouldn't Be Thinking About" and "Radio," both of which peaked at #4, which is why I can't imagine this being a solid Billboard #1 and think it must start struggling eventually. I wonder what the lowest hot 100 showing is for a modern day #1? If it's not the #61 peak of "Beer in Mexico", then I would be very surprised. What made that song cross over so poorly? Also, George Strait's "Wrapped" only got to 72 on the Hot 100, which is the lowest showing I can remember in recent years for a Top 3. I think the reason this song's downloading poorly is because it's just so freaking BLAND. People will only remember it til it's gone, then it'll get swept under the same rug that Boys of Fall did (although that one at least did well at the time).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 19:23:31 GMT -5
To me it's just one of those songs that you don't think much about after it's done. Personally I think it's a great song and I always crank it up when it comes on, but it's not one that I'm actively yearning to hear when I'm not listening to it.
It's a classic Chesney tune, but nothing we haven't heard before. I think sometimes radio has traditionally given some artists like Kenny or Brad good will in terms of airplay versus real listener appeal.
Of course all of this may be moot since we have seen a good handful of songs in the top 5 of research lists that have very mediocre digital sales numbers.
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Post by nick64 on Dec 28, 2014 21:06:09 GMT -5
The only top 5 songs that I remember selling this poorly since country music has started selling well on iTunes are "Everything I Shouldn't Be Thinking About" and "Radio," both of which peaked at #4, which is why I can't imagine this being a solid Billboard #1 and think it must start struggling eventually. I wonder what the lowest hot 100 showing is for a modern day #1? If it's not the #61 peak of "Beer in Mexico", then I would be very surprised. What made that song cross over so poorly? Also, George Strait's "Wrapped" only got to 72 on the Hot 100, which is the lowest showing I can remember in recent years for a Top 3. I think the reason this song's downloading poorly is because it's just so freaking BLAND. People will only remember it til it's gone, then it'll get swept under the same rug that Boys of Fall did (although that one at least did well at the time). Actually the lowest I can think of in recent years is Chesney's own "Reality", which only reached #62, as well as "Live A Little", which reached #61. More recently, Billy Currington's "We Are Tonight" peaked at #60.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 29, 2014 17:00:11 GMT -5
^ I forgot that Reality and Live a Little were super low too. What kept We Are Tonight so obscenely low? It only had like 50 weeks to build up decent sales.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 29, 2014 18:25:20 GMT -5
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jan 13, 2015 9:31:09 GMT -5
#1 on Mediabase:
2 1 KENNY CHESNEY Til It's Gone 7760 7333 427 56.179
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Post by bjer127 on Jan 14, 2015 12:41:33 GMT -5
I can't remember a MB #1 that I heard less on the radio. Some of Kenny's singles have been like that, low sellers and just zoomed up the charts. I'm hoping they release "Wild Child" or "Save It For A Rainy Day" next
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Post by carriekins on Jan 14, 2015 13:28:42 GMT -5
I can't remember a MB #1 that I heard less on the radio. Some of Kenny's singles have been like that, low sellers and just zoomed up the charts. I'm hoping they release "Wild Child" or "Save It For A Rainy Day" next Really? I hear this all. The. Time. I was in the car for 2 hours the other day and heard it four times between our two stations. I believe it's been all but confirmed that Wild Child is the next single.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 14, 2015 13:30:51 GMT -5
I can't remember a MB #1 that I heard less on the radio. Some of Kenny's singles have been like that, low sellers and just zoomed up the charts. I'm hoping they release "Wild Child" or "Save It For A Rainy Day" next Really? I hear this all. The. Time. I was in the car for 2 hours the other day and heard it four times between our two stations. I believe it's been all but confirmed that Wild Child is the next single. I hear it a lot too. Not nearly as much as some of his recent #1 hits but I hear it often. "Wild Child" is next. :)
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 14, 2015 17:15:16 GMT -5
I dunno if it's this song but I hear Kenny Chesney on radio all the time The other day all 3 stations in Kansas City were playing different KC tunes at the same time. Totally unfair. :( So I imagine it's been played a lot here, I just don't know because I change stations, lol.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 14, 2015 17:23:05 GMT -5
Well, Kenny Chesney and Kansas City DO have the same initials. Maybe Kelly Clarkson could be played more.
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Post by matty005 on Jan 14, 2015 17:43:31 GMT -5
Wild Child is so much better than this song. I feel like it won't top the charts, but it will have more of an impact (similar to "You And Tequila"). I could never get into this song... it wasn't bad, it just wasn't anything special. I can't wait for, "Wild Child."
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 18, 2015 16:31:27 GMT -5
Over 8000 spins for Kenny Chesney:
2 1 KENNY CHESNEY Til It's Gone 8061 7517 544 57.354
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 18, 2015 16:39:37 GMT -5
Over 8000 spins for Kenny Chesney: 2 1 KENNY CHESNEY Til It's Gone 8061 7517 544 57.354 Kenny claims the Mediabase #1 this week after 17 weeks charting. Not bad for this song considering how poorly its sold for a #1 single in that short amount of time. Luckily for "'Til It's Gone" there wasn't a stronger single in its way when it hit the top. There was enough room between Kenny and Tim/Brad along with plenty of wiggle room between Kenny and Eric. Just superb timing to get the top spot and having a big #1 hit like "American Kids" preceding this certainly helped as well.
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