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Post by sabre14 on Nov 9, 2014 14:50:42 GMT -5
Interesting update this week. After Toby increased nearly 500 spins and 2.5 million in audience last week, he only gained 87 spins and actually lost some audience this week, albeit a mere .023 in lost audience.
I really think Toby's days of getting top 10 hits on country radio are over. Country radio just does not want to give him heavy rotation for his singles anymore. We've seen the signs with "I Like Girls That Drink Beer", "Hope On The Rocks", and "Drinks After Work" all stalling inside the top 20 ("Shut Up And Hold On" was so bad I'm not even going to count that bomb out of courtesy to Toby). It's still too early to say exactly how this will do in the end but I do think top 10 is a fantasy.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 9, 2014 16:40:48 GMT -5
Anyone else's station censoring "we don't give a rat's ass"? WATZ mutes it.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 9, 2014 16:44:14 GMT -5
^ WYRK leaves the "rats ass" in.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 9, 2014 20:25:06 GMT -5
Anyone else's station censoring "we don't give a rat's ass"? WATZ mutes it. The CDX radio edit has removed "ass" from the track (but not the "rat's" part).
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 9, 2014 21:03:49 GMT -5
Surprisingly, Bob Kingsley isn't censoring it.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 23, 2014 15:23:08 GMT -5
Yeah, there's just no way this makes the top 10. Heck even a top 20 peak will be an accomplishment at this point.
"Drunk Americans" only increases 43 spins and 380k in audience on MB this week. This coming off the heels of Toby gaining just 116 spins and 700k in audience, while the week before, he broke even in audience while gaining just 89 spins. Plus "Drunk Americans" has leveled off with the adds, as 8 is what it has garnered the past two weeks - this week not withstanding.
My heart keeps telling me this still is Toby and that this lead single has to be doing better and will somehow pull out of these unimpressive gains. But my head (way more reliable) says that Toby's hit making days at country radio are all but over.
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Post by Zazie on Nov 23, 2014 16:36:37 GMT -5
Yeah, there's just no way this makes the top 10. Heck even a top 20 peak will be an accomplishment at this point. "Drunk Americans" only increases 43 spins and 380k in audience on MB this week. This coming off the heels of Toby gaining just 116 spins and 700k in audience, while the week before, he broke even in audience while gaining just 89 spins. Plus "Drunk Americans" has leveled off with the adds, as 8 is what it has garnered the past two weeks - this week not withstanding. My heart keeps telling me this still is Toby and that this lead single has to be doing better and will somehow pull out of these unimpressive gains. But my head (way more reliable) says that Toby's hit making days at country radio are all but over. The song was at -37 in spins as recently as yesterday, so that +43 is comparatively a good number. That makes it even more likely that this one is going nowhere. After debuting at 31 on Billboard the song has failed to crack the top 30 (!!), and it shouldn't do so on tomorrow's chart either. I guess it can make the MB top 30 in a week or two, if it's still alive, and that would get it some countdown spins and propel it toward (but not into) the top 20. Still, this has a ton of work to do in order to reach the top 20, and I doubt it will do that.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 23, 2014 16:40:24 GMT -5
Yeah, there's just no way this makes the top 10. Heck even a top 20 peak will be an accomplishment at this point. "Drunk Americans" only increases 43 spins and 380k in audience on MB this week. This coming off the heels of Toby gaining just 116 spins and 700k in audience, while the week before, he broke even in audience while gaining just 89 spins. Plus "Drunk Americans" has leveled off with the adds, as 8 is what it has garnered the past two weeks - this week not withstanding. My heart keeps telling me this still is Toby and that this lead single has to be doing better and will somehow pull out of these unimpressive gains. But my head (way more reliable) says that Toby's hit making days at country radio are all but over. The song was at -37 in spins as recently as yesterday, so that +43 is comparatively a good number. That makes it even more likely that this one is going nowhere. After debuting at 31 on Billboard the song has failed to crack the top 30 (!!), and it shouldn't do so on tomorrow's chart either. I guess it can make the MB top 30 in a week or two, if it's still alive, and that would get it some countdown spins and propel it toward (but not into) the top 20. Still, this has a ton of work to do in order to reach the top 20, and I doubt it will do that. Perhaps I was just trying to be too nice here. Maybe I felt saying top 30 would be too mean? In any event, a top 30 peak would certainly be the most likely area this hits. Top 20, like you said, would be a huge accomplishment and one that looks very unlikely.
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Post by slowmo on Nov 25, 2014 13:30:11 GMT -5
The video came out today. Typical Toby... take that however you want. lol vevo.ly/JB7dnO
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Post by rbundy1987 on Nov 25, 2014 21:02:52 GMT -5
The video came out today. Typical Toby... take that however you want. lol vevo.ly/JB7dnO
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 26, 2014 8:42:05 GMT -5
The video came out today. Typical Toby... take that however you want. lol vevo.ly/JB7dnOUh...no and I don't even have to play the video. Nothing new is being offered here.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 26, 2014 12:04:23 GMT -5
The video was basically a fuller, more cartoonish version of Toby's "American Ride" video from 2009. Though that one did have actual live people in it towards the beginning and end.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 29, 2014 14:23:16 GMT -5
Well with one day remaining on the MB chart, Toby is really struggling. He so far has only seen an increase of 4 spins and loses 0.035 in audience. His spins gains the past 2 weeks and 6 days have gone, +116 (11/17), +43 (11/24) and +4 (one day remaining this week). His audience over the same span of time has gone, +700k (11/17), +380K (11/24) and -0.035 (one day remaining this week). Toby has been leapfrogged by both Blake and Tyler as well, so the highest Toby can place on MB this week is #32. I agree with Zazie - this will likely not even make the top 20 as "Drunk Americans" is having a whale of a time just cracking the top 30 on either chart.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 15:57:23 GMT -5
At this point, the Show-Dog promotion team is all but helpless. They can't get any artist other than Toby Keith enough spins to even chart anymore and even Toby can't even reach the top 30 with a Clear Channel deal. I definitely don't see Show-Dog still having an active promotion team at this time next year.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Nov 29, 2014 16:12:49 GMT -5
At this point, the Show-Dog promotion team is all but helpless. They can't get any artist other than Toby Keith enough spins to even chart anymore and even Toby can't even reach the top 30 with a Clear Channel deal. I definitely don't see Show-Dog still having an active promotion team at this time next year. Which means Joel Crouse can perhaps find success somewhere. If he wasn't on Show-Dog he would have had a lot more success by now. On topic: I don't see this song making top ten. Toby hasn't had much success lately and I don't think that will change.
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Post by jesster on Nov 29, 2014 18:48:19 GMT -5
I heard this on my station yesterday. They play a ton of Toby. For those stations that like him, I don't think they have to really increase their Toby quotient in programming to bump this up the charts.
Just shift from some of the catalog song plays to pick up this new single.
Which is really a good bargain, as Drunk Americans is kind of a greatest hits mix song all by itself...
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Post by someguy on Nov 29, 2014 19:11:32 GMT -5
Well with one day remaining on the MB chart, Toby is really struggling. He so far has only seen an increase of 4 spins and loses 0.035 in audience. His spins gains the past 2 weeks and 6 days have gone, +116 (11/17), +43 (11/24) and +4 (one day remaining this week). His audience over the same span of time has gone, +700k (11/17), +380K (11/24) and -0.035 (one day remaining this week). Toby has been leapfrogged by both Blake and Tyler as well, so the highest Toby can place on MB this week is #32. I agree with Zazie - this will likely not even make the top 20 as "Drunk Americans" is having a whale of a time just cracking the top 30 on either chart. I'm starting to think that it's more and more likely that Toby will join Eric Church and Garth Brooks this year in being artists with Clear Channel deals whose debut end up being their peak.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 30, 2014 15:13:44 GMT -5
Well with one day remaining on the MB chart, Toby is really struggling. He so far has only seen an increase of 4 spins and loses 0.035 in audience. His spins gains the past 2 weeks and 6 days have gone, +116 (11/17), +43 (11/24) and +4 (one day remaining this week). His audience over the same span of time has gone, +700k (11/17), +380K (11/24) and -0.035 (one day remaining this week). Toby has been leapfrogged by both Blake and Tyler as well, so the highest Toby can place on MB this week is #32. I agree with Zazie - this will likely not even make the top 20 as "Drunk Americans" is having a whale of a time just cracking the top 30 on either chart. I'm starting to think that it's more and more likely that Toby will join Eric Church and Garth Brooks this year in being artists with Clear Channel deals whose debut end up being their peak. I am too. Toby decreases another 200k in audience today and goes without a bullet on MB this week at #32. Frankie and Hunter will exit next Sunday but The Band Perry, Cole Swindell and Dierks Bentley are all nipping at Toby's heels. There's no way he gets top 30 next week. After that there's only two more weeks before the shut down. It really all depends how "Drunk Americans" performs this upcoming week, but we could be seeing another flame out.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 30, 2014 16:06:48 GMT -5
What is happening with Toby's career? He got Made in America to number one and Red Solo Cup as well as Beers Ago to the top ten. Is he too country for today's radio or is he becoming a thing of the past like George and Alan Jackson. Seems like each song he releases peaks lower and lower. Two things have to do with Toby's limited radio success lately. One is age. Just like we saw with Alan and George, at some point radio just decides when an artist time comes to be slowly worked off of radio. It's happened to all the big names throughout country's history. It can definitely be frustrating but that's just the way this industry seems to operate. Secondly is Show Dog-Universal's radio promotion department. Toby's name recognition is how he keeps getting these hourly deals with his lead singles but it really shows how ready country radio is ready to move on from him after the high debut with "Drunk Americans" basically stalling where it debuted. They just don't feel like giving Toby heavy rotation anymore. Toby's pockets are deep so that's why his label is still up and operating but as we've seen with JT Hodges and Joel Crouse, Show Dog just cannot compete with other labels right now.
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Post by jesster on Dec 1, 2014 20:29:34 GMT -5
I would really like to see this one keep pushing up the charts, despite the current slow period.
If it doesn't, while age/etc likely aren't helping the cause -- I think the actual song choice could be part of it. While I like the song, it is a composite of several themes well-covered in Toby's past hits. Which the video takes note of in a mild way, vs. taking it in a direction that surprises us.
Perhaps something that is more of a fresh topic / approach could work better for him. Among his recent radio songs, the one I really liked for Toby was Drinks After Work. Just cute, nothing too dramatic, up-tempo, not a style he had done very often at radio in recent years.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 21:22:41 GMT -5
Finally good to see this song crack the top 30 on tonight's chart. Hopefully it will be top twenty by the end of January or first of February. Toby was lucky to make it into the Billboard top 30 tonight--the threshold to make the top 30 was a bit lower than it was last week, when the #30 song had more than 6.3 million in audience. The only reason Toby moved up a spot is because enough songs went recurrent for him to do so. "Drunk Americans" actually lost audience--its total audience is down to just 5.9 million. Unless Toby really picks up the pace soon, #30 might be as high as he gets. He got passed by The Band Perry, and Cole Swindell and Tyler Farr are both within 300k of passing Toby. Farr gained almost 900k this past week, and Cole was up more than 1 million, so they are on pace to pass Toby within a day or two. Dierks Bentley, Garth Brooks, and possibly Sam Hunt could pose a threat as well within the next couple of weeks.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 1, 2014 21:27:09 GMT -5
I know we hate to see flame outs on the charts but I really think Toby is all but done. "Drunk Americans" decreased another 200k in audience on MB today and is down 240k on Billboard this week. He's getting little help in the adds department and the song has gradually been losing spins what seems like everyday now.
I wouldn't be surprised if #30 is as high as Toby gets on either chart.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Dec 1, 2014 23:17:56 GMT -5
Really just want non-drinking songs from Toby Keith. He really needs to start promoting the artists on his label much better. What happened to Show Dog anyway? Toby used to have so much success with that label. Did he stop caring about promotion?
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 2, 2014 10:06:39 GMT -5
Really just want non-drinking songs from Toby Keith. He really needs to start promoting the artists on his label much better. What happened to Show Dog anyway? Toby used to have so much success with that label. Did he stop caring about promotion? If Toby Keith can't get himself properly promoted, what makes you think he can get anyone else promoted? Ask Trace Adkins.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 2, 2014 10:13:29 GMT -5
Do you guys think Toby will ever crack the top ten or twenty again? Maybe a few top 20s, top ten, I don't think so. Toby Keith will be content to have twenty #1s in his career.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 2, 2014 12:06:56 GMT -5
I'm pretty confident that "Drunk Americans" is finished. It's down over 200k in audience once again today and has lost over 600k in audience since Sunday on MB. Toby also has lost 111 spins since Sunday with a good chunk of that coming in today's update (-151 spins over the past seven days). Plus Toby garnered just 2 more adds this week. He already went bulletless on MB this week and next week could be the final appearance on either chart for "Drunk Americans".
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Post by jesster on Dec 7, 2014 18:26:17 GMT -5
This seems to have moved to the top 30 again and back with a bullet. (?) At least in today's afternoon update from one source I look at. Toby was on the Bobby Bones countdown yesterday, I didn't hear this song played but I'd assume they must have in association with his segment. He was on a fair while talking about Red Solo Cups and other weighty matters of the day
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Post by someguy on Dec 7, 2014 19:16:34 GMT -5
I think today's increase was really just due to syndicated spins yesterday. It happened at the best possible time for him though, because once recurrents are gone, it will pull him into the MB top 30, which means he'll receive countdown spins. I doubt this will amount to much in the long run, but I think it will extend the song's life for a couple of weeks. I doubt it recovers after the holidays though.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 7, 2014 19:18:08 GMT -5
Toby's music has gone downhill since Red Solo Cup As Good As I Once Was.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 8, 2014 12:27:50 GMT -5
Toby's music has gone downhill since Red Solo Cup As Good As I Once Was. I can think of five since then: 1. Big Blue Note 2. A Little Too Late 3. Love Me If You Can 4. God Love Her 5. Cryin' For Me Wayman's Song Those are the only GOOD ones!
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