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Post by sabre14 on Oct 13, 2014 14:03:21 GMT -5
Artist: Cole Swindell Single: "Ain't Worth The Whiskey" Writers: Cole Swindell, Josh Martin, Adam Sanders Album: Cole SwindellLabel: Warner Bros. Nashville Release Date: October 13th, 2014 Add Date: November 3rd, 2014 SourceListen</a> Chart Run: 50* - 42* - 38* - 35* - 32* - 27* - 23* - 22* - 19* - 17* - 15* - 13* - 12* - 11* - 7* - 7* - 3* - 1* - 5 - 9 (Mediabase)
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 13, 2014 15:27:53 GMT -5
Debuts at #59.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 13, 2014 15:39:26 GMT -5
Really solid choice, and not very surprising considering it already charted. Not a *huge* fan of the production but this is definitely in the top three songs on the album.
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Post by someguy on Oct 13, 2014 15:43:39 GMT -5
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Post by hosssulpizio on Oct 13, 2014 16:44:35 GMT -5
"Ain't Worth The Whiskey" is such a great song!I hope no more "Bro Country" for Cole Swindell.
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 13, 2014 18:49:46 GMT -5
Awesome choice. This is a solid country song with a huge hook, extremely catchy. I can't see any way this doesn't go top 5, especially since he's coming off too hot singles. Should peak around late spring/early summer, and will help set up his next album cycle pretty well (if they decide to move on). Can't wait to start hearing this one on the radio.
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Post by carriekins on Oct 13, 2014 19:36:54 GMT -5
The Highway has been playing this for a few weeks, and I actually really enjoy it. The production is a bit louder than I'd like, but it's a welcome change of pace from Cole, who has thus far seriously underwhelmed me.
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Post by jdbowman on Oct 13, 2014 20:19:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure they'll want to release another single after this but I would love to see "Swayin" released.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 20:22:48 GMT -5
Looks like Warner Music Nashville has thrown Cole Swindell under the bus in favor of Brett Eldredge for CMA New Artist of the Year. I guess this decision was made because Brett Eldredge's music isn't having as much success as Cole Swindell's and the label thinks Brett may need this award more than Cole, but it seems like Cole would have had a stronger chance of winning.
Edit: Just saw an ad in Aircheck Weekly also asking for Cole Swindell to be considered for CMA New Artist of the Year. Why would WMN want to split the vote like that? I wonder who the label's staff will vote for?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 20:52:09 GMT -5
Looks like Warner Music Nashville has thrown Cole Swindell under the bus in favor of Brett Eldredge for CMA New Artist of the Year. I guess this decision was made because Brett Eldredge's music isn't having as much success as Cole Swindell's and the label thinks Brett may need this award more than Cole, but it seems like Cole would have had a stronger chance of winning. Really? I'm curious as to what makes you say this. We see this all the time where labels put out ads for all of their nominated artists so I'm not sure why this is a surprise at all. Cole has better album sales but Brett stands out a lot more to me, and I think he has a better chance at a long-term career. His music definitely seems to be more critically-acclaimed as well, whereas Cole (imo) comes across as yet another bro in a long line of bros.
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Post by kw9461 on Oct 13, 2014 22:26:40 GMT -5
Sort of funny that on the same day that an artist who's debut single was deeply rooted in neo-traditional country releases a steaming pile of bro country, an artist who's first single was part of the first wave of bro, releases a very respectable, clearly identifiable country song. Cole's voice still comes off as pretty lukewarm to me (the over production doesn't help either), but this is still a very enjoyable song. The theme is one i've always enjoyed and there's enough lyrical meat to make this interesting. Quite a 180 from his first two singles, and I wish Cole well with this one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 11:50:58 GMT -5
Jhomes87, regarding the New Artist of the Year award, wouldn't it be counter-productive to campaign for two different artists in the same category? They'll end up splitting the vote and neither will win. When it comes time for the label's staff to cast their votes, who would they choose? Maybe this practice of trying to get both to win is conventional, but to me it doesn't seem very logical. Basically Warner put out two competing ads in CAW this week. UMG did have out ads for Luke Bryan, Keith Urban, and George Strait, all of whom are up for Entertainer of the Year, but the Luke Bryan ad was more of a general ad for all of his nominations, so the label had to mention Entertainer of the Year even if they don't plan on pushing for him to win. Keith Urban was a similar situation, where he is nominated in several different categories. I just wonder if labels eventually choose one artist in each category to ask all their staff to vote for or if they will end up splitting the vote among all their artists.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 20:37:12 GMT -5
Jhomes87, regarding the New Artist of the Year award, wouldn't it be counter-productive to campaign for two different artists in the same category? This happens every year. The label is not going to put out ads for only one of their nominated artists. In terms of total votes, the ballots cast by label staff make up a very small percentage, so they are definitely not going to pick and choose which artists they like the best. I don't think the label would come across very well to the other artists on their roster that they didn't highlight. That, to me, would be far more counter-productive or detrimental to the label if they basically just said "hey, we have a couple of artists nominated for New Artist, but we're only gonna put out an ad for one of them". I think that would be the most bone-headed thing they could possibly do. Additionally, there are probably a lot more factors at play here. Some of the campaigning probably comes down to the artist's management rather than the labels. Also--and this probably doesn't really apply to the New Artist category--some of the early-round voting has already been done, and it's possible that labels and management teams are already starting to get a general 'feel' for which way the majority of voters are swinging. In the end I think you just might be reading into this too much. I personally expected each label to put out ads for each of their nominated artists, even in the New Artist category, because I've seen it done that way year after year, and I don't see anything odd/surprising about it. They want to highlight the accomplishments of all of their nominated artists.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 22:50:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the information, jhomes87. I guess I wasn't expecting Warner Bros. to choose one artist over the other to actively campaign for. I was just a bit confused to see two artists on the same label competing for New Artist of the Year, but I'm sure you're right in that this happens every year and your points make perfect sense. It would be in poor taste to put out ads or other promotions for Brett Eldredge and not Cole Swindell or Cole Swindell and not Brett Eldredge.
Regarding "Ain't Worth the Whiskey," I'm not sure this Cole Swindell single will make as much of an impact as Cole's previous two #1 singles. It's pretty underwritten and if "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" was barely at the Gold digital sales threshold by the time it hit #1 I don't expect "Ain't Worth the Whiskey" to do much better on iTunes. That being said, Cole Swindell seems to have more star potential than other new artists such as Frankie Ballard and Tyler Farr so I don't expect his third single to slump like others' have. One thing I think might help Cole's sales though is if the video isn't withheld all the way until the single is in the top 10. I never was sure why WMN held off on the "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" video for so long.
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Post by kanimal on Oct 14, 2014 23:17:19 GMT -5
Excellent song until that ridiculous, pandering, corny "to those saving our ass overseas" line. Come on, man.
The last verse on "Chicken Fried" was equally pandering, but it was done so much more smoothly than this. Cole's line just seems shoehorned in
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By the way, this is an amateur question, but why does something not have to be top 40 to "debut" on Country Airplay the way it does on many other Billboard charts? I mean - Taylor Swift's new song "debuted" in that vicinity, and it clearly made no real impact at country radio, so why not revise the scoring system?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 23:39:03 GMT -5
By the way, this is an amateur question, but why does something not have to be top 40 to "debut" on Country Airplay the way it does on many other Billboard charts? I mean - Taylor Swift's new song "debuted" in that vicinity, and it clearly made no real impact at country radio, so why not revise the scoring system? I'm not entirely sure I know what you're asking, but if you're talking about "Shake It Off" sneaking onto Country Airplay for a week, it's simply because it got enough audience (from spins at country radio stations) to crack the Country Airplay top 60 for a single week. I guess I wasn't aware that Billboard's other genre charts didn't work that way? Or maybe I'm confused as to what you're saying..
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Post by kanimal on Oct 14, 2014 23:43:50 GMT -5
By the way, this is an amateur question, but why does something not have to be top 40 to "debut" on Country Airplay the way it does on many other Billboard charts? I mean - Taylor Swift's new song "debuted" in that vicinity, and it clearly made no real impact at country radio, so why not revise the scoring system? I'm not entirely sure I know what you're asking, but if you're talking about "Shake It Off" sneaking onto Country Airplay for a week, it's simply because it got enough audience (from spins at country radio stations) to crack the Country Airplay top 60 for a single week. I guess I wasn't aware that Billboard's other genre charts didn't work that way? Or maybe I'm confused as to what you're saying.. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6281634/chart-highlights-taylor-swift-shakes-to-top-of-pop-songs-iggyIf you see there, a song has to go Top 40 to debut on the Pop Airplay Chart, Adult Pop Airplay Chart, etc. For some charts, it appears a song would even need to be Top 30 to "chart." But country airplay seemingly extends all the way to #60 or higher (as do some other airplay charts), and so I'm curious what drives the variation. I've always assumed a song "charts" when it goes Top 40... The reason I brought up the Swift song was to show the futility of extending the airplay chart to the top 60. A song like Shake it Off can "chart" in that scenario even though it's not really making any sort of impact.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 23:56:20 GMT -5
If you see there, a song has to go Top 40 to debut on the Pop Airplay Chart, Adult Pop Airplay Chart, etc. For some charts, it appears a song would even need to be Top 30 to "chart." But country airplay seemingly extends all the way to #60 or higher (as do some other airplay charts), and so I'm curious what drives the variation. I've always assumed a song "charts" when it goes Top 40... The reason I brought up the Swift song was to show the futility of extending the airplay chart to the top 60. A song like Shake it Off can "chart" in that scenario even though it's not really making any sort of impact. I think it has more or less to do with the amount of titles being released to any given format. Pop has always been used interchangeably with "top 40" music so that's probably a big reason as to why they keep the cutoff at #40. It's entirely up to Billboard and where they decide the cutoff position is or should be for a given format. It looks like their Rock Airplay chart probably is top 50, Adult Alternative is top 30, Latin Airplay is top 50, R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay is top 50, Dance Club songs is top 50, etc. My guess (key word is "guess") is that pop cuts off at #40 because there are also charts for Adult Pop, AAA, AC/HAC, etc. If country as a radio format really starts to fragment then I would guess that we'll see Billboard reduce the main Country Airplay chart from 60 positions down to 50 or even 40. From 1990 into early 2001, the Country Airplay chart (which used the Hot Country Singles name) was a top 75 chart. Billboard reduced it to top 60 in January of 2001.
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Post by samsager3 on Oct 17, 2014 14:22:46 GMT -5
I really like this song but I hope we get 1 more single after this. It would be a real shame if a dozen roses and a six pack didn't get released to radio
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 3, 2014 15:40:22 GMT -5
Most added on MB with 40 adds this week.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 3, 2014 18:31:04 GMT -5
^I know he's still a newer artist, but I'm not worried about this song at all. Cole has a lot of momentum right now, and this song fits country radio perfectly right now. The sales have been great too, this just seems to have everything going for it right now.
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Post by Dustin J. on Nov 3, 2014 21:06:44 GMT -5
According to his Twitter account, Cole Swindell is releasing a digital EP on Nov. 17 with five new/different tracks.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 3, 2014 21:11:30 GMT -5
According to his Twitter account, Cole Swindell is releasing a digital EP on Nov. 17 with five new/different tracks. Here's the track listing. 1. "Ready" 2. "The Way You're Loving Me Now" 3. "Kiss" 4. "Workin' On Me" 5. "Boomerang" Source
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 22:59:53 GMT -5
I think this is a live EP to highlight his winter "Down Home Tour." Studio versions of "Ready" and "Boomerang" have actually already surfaced online.
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Post by winstonmurdock on Nov 5, 2014 14:28:53 GMT -5
These will be different productions of Ready and Boomerang than the ones that have made their way onto YouTube in the past, FWIW.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 10, 2014 23:46:24 GMT -5
Cole moves into the top 50 on MB this week at #50 and moves from #48 to #42 on Billboard increasing nearly 900k in audience. Pretty good start for this song if you ask me even with him coming off a long charting #1 single.
Also from Billboard, Cole and Lucy Hale will be performing in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade on November 27th (Thanksgiving Day of course).
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 24, 2014 18:54:10 GMT -5
This is pretty good stuff. The production is still a bit heavy handed, but it's loads better than the atrociously amateurish production on "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight". There's a lot more texture and instrumental variation to it in comparison.
I'm pretty sure they edited the "savin' our ass overseas" line for the radio, though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 14:32:24 GMT -5
I'm assuming based on "Chillin' It" shooting up to #26 on iTunes country that Cole performed that on the Macy's show instead of his current single. I would have thought he'd have performed "Ain't Worth the Whiskey" to give the song a boost of momentum but sales are still really great for this and so I'm sure Warner Bros. will be able to get it up the charts anyway.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 27, 2014 14:38:27 GMT -5
I'm assuming based on "Chillin' It" shooting up to #26 on iTunes country that Cole performed that on the Macy's show instead of his current single. I would have thought he'd have performed "Ain't Worth the Whiskey" to give the song a boost of momentum but sales are still really great for this and so I'm sure Warner Bros. will be able to get it up the charts anyway. Yeah, it's not that big if a deal since Cole's momentum seems to be doing well enough for "Ain't Worth The Whiskey" to climb fairly fast. I knew it would be "Chillin' It" since that song would probably have a bigger cross-over appeal than this song, plus "It Ain't Worth The Whiskey" is still pretty young in its chart run. Might as well check to see how "Lie A Little Better" is doing at iTunes right now since Lucy Hale performed that during the parade as well.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 27, 2014 14:39:24 GMT -5
I'm assuming based on "Chillin' It" shooting up to #26 on iTunes country that Cole performed that on the Macy's show instead of his current single. I would have thought he'd have performed "Ain't Worth the Whiskey" to give the song a boost of momentum but sales are still really great for this and so I'm sure Warner Bros. will be able to get it up the charts anyway. I think "Chillin' It" might have been a little more appropriate for Thanksgiving. Not that "Ain't Worth The Whiskey" is a racy or edgy song, but they might have wanted to not perform something with lots of mentions to alcohol seeing as there are a lot of kids at the parade.
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