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Post by dm2081 on Jun 25, 2015 7:11:34 GMT -5
Ugh this song is terrible. That's some terrible production. Seriously I think he needs to be dropped from Sony. What does he really have to bring to country music? Well I would say nothing because this is not country in any way shape or form. Chase why don't you go try rapping or try pop radio that way you won't bother us anymore. Well the single sales for this one have been lagging, but "Ready Set Roll" was extremely successful sales wise, "Ride" is probably half way to Gold without being released as an actual single, and his album sales are pretty good when compared to other newcomers. So Sony looks at Chase and sees $$$. Whether you like or not, the guy has a lot of fans, so it would make no sense for Sony to drop him from a business standpoint.
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Post by trebor on Jun 25, 2015 7:50:26 GMT -5
Ugh this song is terrible. That's some terrible production. Seriously I think he needs to be dropped from Sony. What does he really have to bring to country music? Well I would say nothing because this is not country in any way shape or form. Chase why don't you go try rapping or try pop radio that way you won't bother us anymore. As far as I understand it, he technically cannot be dropped by Sony; the two parties may part ways, though. He's on a strategic partnership and distribution deal with Columbia Nashville; and he's not an in-house Sony discovery and bred artist. I understand that Chase Rice may be particularly controversial, but songs like "Carolina Can" and "Jack Daniels And Jesus" show that he's capable of better material than the singles sent to radio so far; and the sales volume and buzz he's generating speak louder than words. $$$
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 25, 2015 12:49:49 GMT -5
Ugh this song is terrible. That's some terrible production. Seriously I think he needs to be dropped from Sony. What does he really have to bring to country music? Well I would say nothing because this is not country in any way shape or form. Chase why don't you go try rapping or try pop radio that way you won't bother us anymore. As far as I understand it, he technically cannot be dropped by Sony; the two parties may part ways, though. He's on a strategic partnership and distribution deal with Columbia Nashville; and he's not an in-house Sony discovery and bred artist. I understand that Chase Rice may be particularly controversial, but songs like "Carolina Can" and "Jack Daniels And Jesus" show that he's capable of better material than the singles sent to radio so far; and the sales volume and buzz he's generating speak louder than words. $$$ Technically speaking, we can't be "dropped" from the label's roster since he doesn't have a traditional deal to begin with, but Sony can drop him in terms of radio promotion, which is where Columbia Nashville's responsibilities lie.
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Post by trebor on Jun 25, 2015 13:21:30 GMT -5
As far as I understand it, he technically cannot be dropped by Sony; the two parties may part ways, though. He's on a strategic partnership and distribution deal with Columbia Nashville; and he's not an in-house Sony discovery and bred artist. I understand that Chase Rice may be particularly controversial, but songs like "Carolina Can" and "Jack Daniels And Jesus" show that he's capable of better material than the singles sent to radio so far; and the sales volume and buzz he's generating speak louder than words. $$$ Technically speaking, we can't be "dropped" from the label's roster since he doesn't have a traditional deal to begin with, but Sony can drop him in terms of radio promotion, which is where Columbia Nashville's responsibilities lie. That's what I meant; but isn't Chase Rice's own label paying Columbia Nashville to do the radio work job?
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 25, 2015 13:40:07 GMT -5
Technically speaking, we can't be "dropped" from the label's roster since he doesn't have a traditional deal to begin with, but Sony can drop him in terms of radio promotion, which is where Columbia Nashville's responsibilities lie. That's what I meant; but isn't Chase Rice's own label paying Columbia Nashville to do the radio work job? Not that I'm aware of. Columbia Nashville is a major corporate label with plenty of money for radio promotion. This is a strategic partnership which allows Rice to keep his "creative freedom" and RED Distribution helps with marketing and distribution. Basically Sony saw his sales and success of "Ready Set Roll" and thought it was a win/win for all parties involved (just a business decision). However, if Sony decides to end their relationship, they can just quit promoting his songs to radio. It's not as if this is a lifetime contract or anything. If he starts to struggle with his airplay success, then Columbia can choose to end the relationship.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2015 13:45:57 GMT -5
So Dack Janiels is Chase Rice's company, kind of what the Zac Brown Band has with Southern Ground?
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 25, 2015 13:53:55 GMT -5
So Dack Janiels is Chase Rice's company, kind of what the Zac Brown Band has with Southern Ground? That's not the best comparison to make since Southern Ground promotes ZBB's singles to radio, while Jack Daniels Records doesn't for Chase, Columbia Nashville does. It's not like Dack Janiels has a big building to operate in with tons of workers. It's really just Chase and his team, and it allows him to make his own music, the way he wants to. It's like Big & Rich Records with Big & Rich. All the work is done by New Revolution (radio promotion) and Kobalt (distribution).
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2015 13:57:09 GMT -5
So Dack Janiels is Chase Rice's company, kind of what the Zac Brown Band has with Southern Ground? You mean "Jack Daniels". That's not the best comparison to make since Southern Ground promotes ZBB's singles to radio, while Jack Daniels Records doesn't for Chase, Columbia Nashville does. It's not like Jack Daniels has a big building to operate in with tons of workers. It's really just Chase and his team, and it allows him to make his own music, the way he wants to. It's like Big & Rich Records with Big & Rich. All the work is done by New Revolution (radio promotion) and Kolbalt (distribution). No, Dack Janiels. This is from the BCU: GONNA WANNA TONIGHT Dack Janiels/Columbia Nashville Chase Rice Thanks for the answer.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 25, 2015 14:00:35 GMT -5
You mean "Jack Daniels". That's not the best comparison to make since Southern Ground promotes ZBB's singles to radio, while Jack Daniels Records doesn't for Chase, Columbia Nashville does. It's not like Jack Daniels has a big building to operate in with tons of workers. It's really just Chase and his team, and it allows him to make his own music, the way he wants to. It's like Big & Rich Records with Big & Rich. All the work is done by New Revolution (radio promotion) and Kolbalt (distribution). No, Dack Janiels. This is from the BCU: GONNA WANNA TONIGHT Dack Janiels/Columbia Nashville Chase Rice Thanks for the answer. Wow, I never realized, lol. Well my answer still stands, whatever Chase's self-made label desires to be referred to. I might still call it Jack Daniels just because Dack Janiels is one of the dumbest attempts at humor I've ever seen.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2015 14:02:28 GMT -5
No, Dack Janiels. This is from the BCU: GONNA WANNA TONIGHT Dack Janiels/Columbia Nashville Chase Rice Thanks for the answer. Wow, I never realized, lol. Well my answer still stands, whatever Chase's self-made label desires to be referred to. I might still call it Jack Daniels just because Dack Janiels is one of the dumbest attempts at humor I've ever seen. Could have a company called Rig & Bich (be careful how you pronounce the latter!).
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 25, 2015 14:07:41 GMT -5
Wow, I never realized, lol. Well my answer still stands, whatever Chase's self-made label desires to be referred to. I might still call it Jack Daniels just because Dack Janiels is one of the dumbest attempts at humor I've ever seen. Could have a company called Rig & Bich (be careful how you pronounce the latter!). I should have noticed the "Dack Janiels" earlier since this is the same guy who has his first two official singles titled "Ready Set Roll" (no freakin' commas!), and " Gonna Wanna Tonight"... The master of the English language, Chase Rice.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2015 14:09:30 GMT -5
Could have a company called Rig & Bich (be careful how you pronounce the latter!). I should have noticed the "Dack Janiels" earlier since this is the same guy who has his first two official singles titled "Ready Set Roll" (no freakin' commas!), and " Gonna Wanna Tonight"... The master of the English language, Chase Rice. Makes Let's Don't Call It A Night a classic!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 25, 2015 15:05:29 GMT -5
Could have a company called Rig & Bich (be careful how you pronounce the latter!). I should have noticed the "Dack Janiels" earlier since this is the same guy who has his first two official singles titled "Ready Set Roll" (no freakin' commas!), and " Gonna Wanna Tonight"... The master of the English language, Chase Rice. Not exactly the same thing though, lol. Like I'm pretty sure his label is called Dack Janiels for the same reason Love and Theft went with Hate and Purchase as the name of their indie label.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 25, 2015 15:09:58 GMT -5
I should have noticed the "Dack Janiels" earlier since this is the same guy who has his first two official singles titled "Ready Set Roll" (no freakin' commas!), and " Gonna Wanna Tonight"... The master of the English language, Chase Rice. Not exactly the same thing though, lol. Like I'm pretty sure his label is called Dack Janiels for the same reason Love and Theft went with Hate and Purchase as the name of their indie label. I'm aware of what he was going for but I personally think it's a stupid name for his record label, as are the titles for his singles.
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Post by trebor on Jun 25, 2015 15:12:28 GMT -5
I should have noticed the "Dack Janiels" earlier since this is the same guy who has his first two official singles titled "Ready Set Roll" (no freakin' commas!), and " Gonna Wanna Tonight"... The master of the English language, Chase Rice. Not exactly the same thing though, lol. Like I'm pretty sure his label is called Dack Janiels for the same reason Love and Theft went with Hate and Purchase as the name of their indie label. I'm only getting the gist now! LOL :) I was always marvelling at how odd "Hate and Purchase" was...
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jun 25, 2015 15:25:10 GMT -5
I used to like Chase before "Ready Set Roll" but now I just get so discouraged by these Bro Country songs he's been releasing. It's crazy because in "Party Up" (feat. Colt Ford) he mentions killing another six pack just to watch you die. Sounds really insane if you ask me.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2015 15:28:29 GMT -5
I used to like Chase before "Ready Set Roll" but now I just get so discouraged by these Bro Country songs he's been releasing. It's crazy because in "Party Up" (feat. Colt Ford) he mentions killing another six pack just to watch you die. Sounds really insane if you ask me. I hope he does it in Reno.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 16:28:30 GMT -5
Not exactly the same thing though, lol. Like I'm pretty sure his label is called Dack Janiels for the same reason Love and Theft went with Hate and Purchase as the name of their indie label. I'm aware of what he was going for but I personally think it's a stupid name for his record label, as are the titles for his singles. Considering that Jack Daniels is a whiskey company, it's highly unlikely that anyone could name a label "Jack Daniels Records" without permission from...Jack Daniels. Thus, we get "Dack Janiels Records".
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 25, 2015 16:31:16 GMT -5
I'm aware of what he was going for but I personally think it's a stupid name for his record label, as are the titles for his singles. Considering that Jack Daniels is a whiskey company, it's highly unlikely that anyone could name a label "Jack Daniels Records" without permission from...Jack Daniels. Then pick a different name entirely, lol. I can't be the only person who thinks that "Dack Janiels" is a horrible name and not that humorous.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jun 25, 2015 20:27:32 GMT -5
Considering that Jack Daniels is a whiskey company, it's highly unlikely that anyone could name a label "Jack Daniels Records" without permission from...Jack Daniels. Then pick a different name entirely, lol. I can't be the only person who thinks that "Dack Janiels" is a horrible name and not that humorous. Sorry to disappoint but while I don't like Chase I did like his label name lol
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 26, 2015 2:14:58 GMT -5
Then pick a different name entirely, lol. I can't be the only person who thinks that "Dack Janiels" is a horrible name and not that humorous. Sorry to disappoint but while I don't like Chase I did like his label name lol I, too, like the label name. It is more clever to me than any of his trite songs, lol.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 26, 2015 12:56:12 GMT -5
Sorry to disappoint but while I don't like Chase I did like his label name lol It is more clever to me than any of his trite songs, lol. Certainly not the most difficult thing in the world to accomplish though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 20:55:18 GMT -5
Please tell me this song is nearing the end. I've lost track of the weeks and well. I just don't see why keep this song given the poor digital sales.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:24:23 GMT -5
Please tell me this song is nearing the end. I've lost track of the weeks and well. I just don't see why keep this song given the poor digital sales. I think the big reason this song's sales have been so low is because the Ignite The Night album has been sale-priced on iTunes for virtually the entire time since its release. The deluxe "party" edition is 18 tracks for just $4.99 (iTunes). "Gonna Wanna Tonight" has been sale-priced at 69 cents for virtually its entire run, but why not just shell out 5 bucks for 18 tracks? That's what a lot of people are undoubtedly doing, as Ignite The Night has remained in the top 10 on Top Country Albums for most of its run. I have no doubt that if Ignite The Night was regular price (probably $12 or higher), then sales for "Gonna Wanna Tonight" would skyrocket. While I don't like Chase's music, I have to hand it to him and his management team. They've been incredibly aggressive/smart with how they've promoted and marketed Chase's music. Sure, they might not be making a ton of money on the album (with its price set so low), but they are getting fans to buy Chase's music, and in the end, that's all that matters (they're building a fan-base, and that could really pay off for Chase when it's time to release his 2nd album). Furthermore, it's basically like they've got 2 singles out at the same time right now: "Gonna Wanna Tonight", the terrestrial radio release, and "Ride", the SiriusXM release. "Ride" has charted top 40 on Hot Country Songs and it's sold over 315,000 downloads, which virtually assures that it will go Gold before the end of the year. Chase and his team have had a really good strategy here. Ignite The Night is more than halfway to Gold (250k albums sold), it's produced a Platinum single in "Ready, Set, Roll", a likely Gold 'single' in "Ride", and "Gonna Wanna Tonight" has been a moderate hit that will probably score a top 20 peak before all is said and done. I'd imagine that Sony is taking in a higher percentage of the album sales here (to compensate for the sale-pricing), whereas Chase probably makes most of his money from the touring aspect, and also royalties for his part in writing "Ready, Set, Roll". I can't be sure on any of that, but in any case it seems like a win-win for all parties involved (Sony is profiting, Chase is profiting, etc).
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Post by bkeysfan on Jul 5, 2015 1:10:04 GMT -5
I'm not gonna lie. He might have been getting backing from his "Survivor" buddies. Rob Cesternino, who has been the best overall podcaster(he's won back to back awards), has a lot of pull and I believe he has helped with Rice's upstart success by plugging him in his podcasts. And if he was never on Survivor I'm not sure his music would be noticed at all.
In a off topic note, it makes me worried Caleb Reynolds could soon have a record deal since he's another wanna be country artist and he's been on Big Brother and will be on season 32's Survivor. If he were to start something up, whose to say Rob doesn't push for it. Doesn't even matter he didn't make it to the final stage on The Voice.
I mean I'm no country fan at all, but just saying.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 5, 2015 12:53:06 GMT -5
It's a shame that Whitney Duncan's stint on Survivor couldn't have led to more success as a country artist. If that show is part of why we have Chase Rice now, then it's yet another example of a male having an advantage over a female with the same platform. Unfortunate, especially seeing as she's fairly talented (not one of my faves or anything -- but I loved "Skinny Dippin'") and he... isn't.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 5, 2015 15:22:02 GMT -5
It's a shame that Whitney Duncan's stint on Survivor couldn't have led to more success as a country artist. If that show is part of why we have Chase Rice now, then it's yet another example of a male having an advantage over a female with the same platform. Unfortunate, especially seeing as she's fairly talented (not one of my faves or anything -- but I loved "Skinny Dippin'") and he... isn't. I think that's the platform but then you need a lot more to become a big star. Both Carrie Underwood and Scotty McCreery won American Idol and it's clear Carrie is and will always be the bigger star (sorry McCreerian).
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Post by McCreerian on Jul 5, 2015 16:38:24 GMT -5
I had no idea that Chase Rice was on Survivor. I don't follow his career nor watch that TV show. Interesting.
And it's obvious that Carrie is the bigger star compared to Scotty. She came off Idol when it was the #1 show on TV with an audience of over 30 million and when Country was in long need of the next powerhouse female star to break out. Scotty came along when Idol's audience was half that or less and when Bro-Country was being born. Plus Country had no real history of a 16 y/o boy getting famous. Carrie was already 20, so she didn't have the teen factor, which historically doesn't make a difference for females in Country anyway. Different times, different situations. Radio and sales today are not like they were when Carrie broke out so obviously Scotty, nor Chase, nor any male will catch up to her status then and now anytime soon, if ever. If any were it'd be Sam Hunt but you don't see his debut album selling 7 million.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 5, 2015 19:27:46 GMT -5
I'm not gonna lie. He might have been getting backing from his "Survivor" buddies. Rob Cesternino, who has been the best overall podcaster(he's won back to back awards), has a lot of pull and I believe he has helped with Rice's upstart success by plugging him in his podcasts. And if he was never on Survivor I'm not sure his music would be noticed at all. In a off topic note, it makes me worried Caleb Reynolds could soon have a record deal since he's another wanna be country artist and he's been on Big Brother and will be on season 32's Survivor. If he were to start something up, whose to say Rob doesn't push for it. Doesn't even matter he didn't make it to the final stage on The Voice. I mean I'm no country fan at all, but just saying. I think you believe too much in the power of Survivor.
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Post by avalyn on Jul 7, 2015 9:20:28 GMT -5
So, I was watching one of the Vevo lift videos Chase has done over the last month and on it he admitted more or less that the songs/sounds that brought him into the country spotlight (only way i can think to word it) isn't exactly him. He was doing what he thought people wanted to hear as well as what he thought was popular and would bring him success. While it has brought him success he isn't truly happy with it all. At least that's what I got from it. But he plans with his second major label album to be a lot more true to himself with his songs and is generally excited about the next chapter. He has the support of Eric Church and Kenny Chesney who have encouraged him to be himself rather than what he has done telling him that he'll be a lot happier with his music and what he's doing if he is. I'm curious to hear the "real" Chase Rice. I say that as someone who enjoyed a good portion of his album but loved the more serious tracks more than anything (Carolina Can/Look at my Truck/Jack Daniels & Jesus to name a few).
Also with the Vevo Lift they have released a new live video for Gonna Wanna Tonight.
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