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Post by ILLUSION on Mar 10, 2015 12:06:18 GMT -5
^ Same. Heard this on the radio this morning and remembered how much I love it!
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Post by popbox on Mar 22, 2015 14:14:58 GMT -5
Damn, CHR just won't let this one go. I think it definitely shows how much more receptive they've become of the band then they were pre SOML. Before they would have never supported one of their singles this long that had the lackluster sales this has. If this had had better sales it probably would have been huge on CHR.
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 22, 2015 15:12:50 GMT -5
I think this will end up peaking right inside or outside of the top 10. Maybe between 8-12. And then after if their label has any sense they will follow it up with "Where Do Broken Hearts Go" or "Stockholm Syndrome."
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Post by allow that on Mar 22, 2015 15:14:28 GMT -5
I forgot this song exists. It's funny how radio paid them dust when they were all hyped up (I see you "One Thing") and now that they're kind of fading radio is trying to force them on us.
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 22, 2015 15:15:44 GMT -5
I wouldn't call selling out football/soccer stadiums and still selling Platinum fading.
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Post by allow that on Mar 22, 2015 15:17:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't call selling out football/soccer stadiums and still selling Platinum fading. It's all relative though, isn't it? Their albums and especially singles aren't selling quite as well as two or three years ago.
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 22, 2015 15:19:49 GMT -5
I wouldn't call selling out football/soccer stadiums and still selling Platinum fading. It's all relative though, isn't it? Their albums and especially singles aren't selling quite as well as two or three years ago. In terms of singles they never dominated the way old boybands did. Four albums is a lot for a boyband, the fact that they didn't fade yet and there were no news of breaking the band of some members going solo is quite remarkable A boyband can get out of fashion at any moment, but they didn't seem to go nowhere for now
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 22, 2015 15:21:15 GMT -5
I wouldn't call selling out football/soccer stadiums and still selling Platinum fading. It's all relative though, isn't it? Their albums and especially singles aren't selling quite as well as two or three years ago. When they go back to playing smaller arenas/clubs and only moving less than 500K units then it'll be a problem. I don't see that happening anytime soon. They are still only within a handful of artists can can sell as well as they do now. I believe they were only #2 to Taylor Swift in 2014. Not too shabby.
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Post by artemis2085 on Mar 22, 2015 15:46:11 GMT -5
While this will most likely be their last stadium tour, they've carved out a nice little niche for themselves.
This is normally the time when a boyband starts winding down, but they seem to be growing leaps & bounds artistically and gaining radio acceptance which translates into a nice second wind. They'll be around a while longer yet.
And yes, "Night Changes" is a pretty great song.
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 22, 2015 21:44:48 GMT -5
I have no doubt they will be playing stadiums again in 2016 after album #5 is released.
Tonight is a new peak for "Night Changes" at #13! Flo-Rida and Jason Derulo could both challenge that this week unless spins keep on the upward track.
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Post by Libra on Mar 22, 2015 22:06:28 GMT -5
I forgot this song exists. It's funny how radio paid them dust when they were all hyped up (I see you "One Thing") and now that they're kind of fading radio is trying to force them on us. People seem to really like hearing this on the radio though, which is more than can be said for, say, "Outside", "Time of Our Lives", or even "I Want You to Know", which recently passed this. I'm...not sure I'd call it radio trying to force this one. Separate point: I have a suspicion that this is going to go the way of "Ghost" and "Centuries". Arguably this should've at least reached the Top 10 by now - considering it hasn't, how far away it still is in spins, and how not fast it's still moving...I think I'll be more surprised than not if it does still get there. Would love to be proven wrong tho.
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Post by Glove Slap on Mar 22, 2015 23:57:47 GMT -5
I'm really glad this has come so far. It's still my favorite single from them.
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Post by irice22 on Mar 23, 2015 1:51:20 GMT -5
I forgot this song exists. It's funny how radio paid them dust when they were all hyped up (I see you "One Thing") and now that they're kind of fading radio is trying to force them on us. People seem to really like hearing this on the radio though, which is more than can be said for, say, "Outside", "Time of Our Lives", or even "I Want You to Know", Amen! Those three songs are such a waste of space.
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 23, 2015 5:50:30 GMT -5
I want you to know is a paranormal phenomenon in my opinion. Selena is no Rihanna, radio usually receive well her first singles but generally they won't have such fantastic start. Zedd had a big hit with Clarity, and a medium one with Stay the night, and that's all. The fact that the song is subpar makes that incredible updates more unbelievable. Time of our lives is typical Pitbull song with a catchy chorus. From time to time one of his songs perform well, and this even sell well. And i really like Outside (it's way better that i need your love) but the truth is lately (no matter how good or bad his songs are) Calvin songs are overperforming on radio
This is pleasant enough to have a nice chart run, it's a pity it's not going top 10, because this is going to suffer the same fate than Ghost and Centuries (which were bigger hits than Prayer in C)
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Post by allow that on Mar 23, 2015 8:16:00 GMT -5
Really? That sure wasn't the case in NYC which is America's top market. Not to mention "Prayer In C" is that rare refreshing sound in a top 10 filled with predictable names and predictable mediocrity.
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 23, 2015 8:22:19 GMT -5
Really? That sure wasn't the case in NYC which is America's top market. Not to mention "Prayer In C" is that rare refreshing sound in a top 10 filled with predictable names and predictable mediocrity. Prayer in C is a great song, but overperformed on pop big time compared with its overall success, maybe not compared with Ghost, but for sure compared with Centuries
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Post by allow that on Mar 23, 2015 8:22:57 GMT -5
Really? That sure wasn't the case in NYC which is America's top market. Not to mention "Prayer In C" is that rare refreshing sound in a top 10 filled with predictable names and predictable mediocrity. Prayer in C is a great song, but overperformed on pop big time compared with its overall success, maybe not compared with Ghost, but for sure compared with Centuries Based on what though?
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Post by skizzo on Mar 23, 2015 8:25:19 GMT -5
People seem to really like hearing this on the radio though, which is more than can be said for, say, "Outside", "Time of Our Lives", or even "I Want You to Know", Amen! Those three songs are such a waste of space. Outside is amazing. Much better than this song imo
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 23, 2015 8:29:06 GMT -5
Prayer in C is a great song, but overperformed on pop big time compared with its overall success, maybe not compared with Ghost, but for sure compared with Centuries Based on what though? I don't knkow, maybe on sales? on the hot 100 peak and chart run? you can choose
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Post by allow that on Mar 23, 2015 8:37:41 GMT -5
I don't knkow, maybe on sales? on the hot 100 peak and chart run? you can choose Thanks for the honor smartie pants! I still think "Prayer In C" performed just fine in sales and shouldn't have been expected to done as well in sales as those you mention. Fall Out Boy is an established act releasing a lead single. Their song wasn't even selling that well until it was used in a commercial. It's simple... exposure = sales. I share your disappointment that "Ghost" didn't do better here, but it wasn't a natural seller either. Ella's label tired HARD to promote her here, and as a result her single's sales would spike with each performance and plummet the next week. Over and over again for its chart run. It did similarly to "Next To Me, "Love Me Again," "Beneath Your Beautiful" aka other massive UK hits that didn't connect as well Stateside (and for a reason). Then there's "Prayer In C": an anonymous artist, ZERO promotion, and they don't even say the title anywhere in the song... and you'd expect it to sell as well as a song promoted by the NBA??? There's also the fact that "Prayer In C" sold better than "Night Changes" currently is... which you're saying radio should be playing more?
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 23, 2015 10:00:09 GMT -5
I don't knkow, maybe on sales? on the hot 100 peak and chart run? you can choose Thanks for the honor smartie pants! I still think "Prayer In C" performed just fine in sales and shouldn't have been expected to done as well in sales as those you mention. Fall Out Boy is an established act releasing a lead single. Their song wasn't even selling that well until it was used in a commercial. It's simple... exposure = sales. I share your disappointment that "Ghost" didn't do better here, but it wasn't a natural seller either. Ella's label tired HARD to promote her here, and as a result her single's sales would spike with each performance and plummet the next week. Over and over again for its chart run. It did similarly to "Next To Me, "Love Me Again," "Beneath Your Beautiful" aka other massive UK hits that didn't connect as well Stateside (and for a reason). Then there's "Prayer In C": an anonymous artist, ZERO promotion, and they don't even say the title anywhere in the song... and you'd expect it to sell as well as a song promoted by the NBA??? There's also the fact that "Prayer In C" sold better than "Night Changes" currently is... which you're saying radio should be playing more? The comparision i made was with Ghost and Centuries, i only said that Night Changes is going to suffer the same fate those songs (which in fact peaked on the hot 100 way higher than Night changes). And i didn't questioned Prayer in C, i only said that overperformed on pop, the same way the other Robin Shulz remix did (i loved Waves, but there's no denying the song performed way better on pop than in any other departments, the same with Calvin Harris last two songs) I didn't mentioned the fact that it was an european smash because there are a lot of european smashes that won't work on the USA, sometimes because the lack of promo, sometimes because tastes are simply different (rap or country don't perform that well outside the USA and a couple of countries)
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Post by allow that on Mar 23, 2015 10:58:21 GMT -5
And i didn't questioned Prayer in C, i only said that overperformed on pop, the same way the other Robin Shulz remix did (i loved Waves, but there's no denying the song performed way better on pop than in any other departments, the same with Calvin Harris last two songs) Well the "overperformance" of these songs you mention is simply a matter of opinion then...
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Post by divasummer on Mar 23, 2015 12:25:01 GMT -5
I Love this song and it's one of my favorites by them. Does anyone else hear similarities between this and "Need You Now" by Lady Antebellum????
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 23, 2015 12:56:38 GMT -5
And i didn't questioned Prayer in C, i only said that overperformed on pop, the same way the other Robin Shulz remix did (i loved Waves, but there's no denying the song performed way better on pop than in any other departments, the same with Calvin Harris last two songs) Well the "overperformance" of these songs you mention is simply a matter of opinion then... Of course it's my opinion. Everything i write is simply my opinion, arts are not math and everything is subjective, even when we're talking of chart runs
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 23, 2015 14:51:24 GMT -5
I Love this song and it's one of my favorites by them. Does anyone else hear similarities between this and "Need You Now" by Lady Antebellum???? So I'm not the only one who hears Lady A in this song. When I first heard it I thought that Lady A would sound perfect singing this song. Both "Night Changes" and "Story of My Life" have Country tones in them. So does "Ready to Run" from FOUR which could be the next single. I've mentioned before that they filmed a video before the tour and Liam hinted in a UK interview "It has something to do with running."
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 25, 2015 14:49:50 GMT -5
Zayn Malik quit the band.
This is everywhere in form of news or blind gossips.
Anyway, there are at least a couple of examples of boybands which continued being successful after one of the member's gone. And OD has a big advantage over other boybands because they don't have leading singers
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Post by musicfan134 on Mar 25, 2015 15:13:30 GMT -5
I think the album era is basically shot at this point. I'd expect this to maybe hold on for a bit longer but anything they try to release after this is gonna flop.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 15:55:57 GMT -5
Four albums is a lot for a boyband, the fact that they didn't fade yet and there were no news of breaking the band of some members going solo is quite remarkable Oops! Oh, well. I love this song and was sad that it wasn't one of their bigger hits.
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Post by Kurt on Mar 25, 2015 16:03:52 GMT -5
Oh, well. I love this song and was sad that it wasn't one of their bigger hits. At least for US pop radio, what is this, their third biggest hit (behind WMYB and SOML, I presume)? I'm surprised it has held out as long as it has and didn't get stuck in the lower teens again, but would (have) like(d) to see it reach the top ten.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 16:11:30 GMT -5
Oh, well. I love this song and was sad that it wasn't one of their bigger hits. At least for US pop radio, what is this, their third biggest hit (behind WMYB and SOML, I presume)? I'm surprised it has held out as long as it has and didn't get stuck in the lower teens again, but would (have) like(d) to see it reach the top ten. Ooh, you're right for radio. I was thinking of Hot 100 peaks, but even then I think I was giving them more top 10/20 hits than they actually have. I guess this was just one of those songs that does well with listeners but for whatever reason doesn't inspire many people to actually buy it? That happens sometimes and I have yet to figure out what it is about certain songs that leaves them in that no man's land of crappy sales.
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