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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 8, 2015 22:20:30 GMT -5
This is undoubtedly the correct choice. Whatever this ends up doing, it will undoubtedly do better than what Out Of The Woods or All You Had To Do Was Stay would had they been pushed over this, easily. I actually prefer both of those over this personally, but that's not the same thing as relative hit potential. Barring bad timing, like the peak of this overlapping directly with a massive runaway smash, this should sail to #1 on CHR.
Hot 100, I'd say something similar to Style, maybe a bit stronger depending on the video traction. The highest I can see this getting there is probably #3 or so, simply because aside from the 1 week of Bad Blood which came with a huge push and hype with the video, the songs hitting #1 have had great legs in all areas in the past year up there.
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Post by defying gravity on Aug 8, 2015 22:38:41 GMT -5
I just wanted "New Romantics" to be the next single... ughhhhhh.
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Aug 8, 2015 22:40:35 GMT -5
I just wanted "New Romantics" to be the next single... ughhhhhh. that or all you had to was stay would've smashed 10xxx more tbh
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Post by Clauss on Aug 8, 2015 22:44:57 GMT -5
New Romantics is next, Rolling Stone named it the #2 best song of 2014 (Taylor shared it) and for the deluxe tracks it's selling really well (after WD of course)
edit: what i mean is that taylor is hyped about the song
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 8, 2015 22:49:40 GMT -5
If they push a song from the deluxe it's definitely going to be New Romantics. It's the only song that's always part of the tour with the works, while the other two have been cut at times.
If they do more singles, I expect them to be New Romantics and Out Of The Woods. They won't be as big as the previous singles or this (OOTW in particular I can see doing much less than people expect due to several reasons by this point, and Wonderland would likely be a better candidate), but they'll do well.
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Post by neverduplicated on Aug 9, 2015 2:10:59 GMT -5
"Wildest Dreams" was absolutely the right choice. It shows a different side of the album and it's the type of track that might push people to buy the album, even if the single itself isn't #1 material. I love "OOTW," but I'm not convinced it would do well as a single. "AYHTDWS" and "HYGTG" and fun bops and more obvious radio bait, but in the long-run I don't think the album would benefit as much from releasing those songs. "New Romantics" would've also been a good choice, but there's no reason that one couldn't wait a bit longer. I don't see any other songs on the album being released, despite every song having some hit potential. That's fine, though, give one or two more singles after this one, then wrap the era up in time to start TS6!
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Post by irice22 on Aug 9, 2015 3:16:14 GMT -5
It's the right choice. After Bad Blood, it was the album track that had retained the most buzz/enthusiasm since release day. I'm a huge fan of All You Had to Do Was Stay and How You Get the Girl, but as someone correctly said in another thread, they do feel more reflective of her Red era. They're *better*, but I'd ultimately put them in the same bucket as "22," which obviously wasn't the hit many hoped it would be. Out of the Woods *is* superb, but the fanfare died down immensely once the album came out (I'm pretty sure freaking Welcome to New York has held up better). As much as I like the song, it could be a case of us having our "Internet blinders" on (since it has more of "cool pop" vibe) - I don't know if it's as resonant with the casual Taylor Swift stan. Both New Romantics and Wonderland are excellent and radio-friendly, but they didn't generate NEARLY as much sales interest upon iTunes release as I'd imagine anyone expected. That's particularly true of "New Romantics," which I know many were pushing as the standout of the album. I still see them as possible 6th singles, but they weren't hot enough to leapfrog Wildest Dreams. This probably one of the most well-formulated opinions I've read on Pulse in a while. I don't love "Wildest Dreams," I'd rather rather "Out of the Woods" on the radio for the next five months, and quite frankly I'm not sure what everyone else hears in this new single. I just can't argue with this point. Like the song or not, it's the right choice in terms of both chart position and album sales.
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Post by Clauss on Aug 9, 2015 8:36:30 GMT -5
What it's going on in Japan? WANEGBT part 2?
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Post by fearlessarrow on Aug 9, 2015 9:43:00 GMT -5
What it's going on in Japan? WANEGBT part 2? SEKAI NO OWARI - ANTI-HERO 1.0000 テイラー・スウィフト - Shake It Off 0.7400 It's used in a commercial in Japan. WANEGBT also blew up because of TV exposure.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 9, 2015 10:57:38 GMT -5
I will never understand the undeniable love so many here give for AYHTDWS and New Romantics. They're both just so... not really dated or bland, but they certainly don't stand out at all in her catalog to me. Nor do I think either song would stand out on the radio.
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Post by wjr15 on Aug 9, 2015 11:12:43 GMT -5
As much as I was stanning for Out of The Woods, I am content with Wildest Dreams. I can see this doing well on radio.
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Post by Clauss on Aug 9, 2015 11:24:37 GMT -5
Also, that reminded me the WD tv commercial in Japan as well
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Post by slayZ on Aug 9, 2015 11:25:16 GMT -5
Meh. Overhyped.
I don't understand the "this shows a different side of her" argument. Style showed a different side too...Out Of The Woods would have "shown a different side too."
This is going to do decent, based on her name alone, but it was absolutely the wrong choice IMO.
I don't see how some of you think this is #1 CHR material.
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Post by Clauss on Aug 9, 2015 11:27:26 GMT -5
Meh. Overhyped. I don't understand the "this shows a different side of her" argument. Style showed a different side too...Out Of The Woods would have "shown a different side too." This is going to do decent, based on her name alone, but it was absolutely the wrong choice IMO. I don't see how some of you think this is #1 CHR material. Watch this be her Firework :kii:
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Post by Ed The Pacifist! on Aug 9, 2015 11:58:48 GMT -5
It would be kinda crazy if something like "Wonderland" was released after "Wildest Dreams" to me yet idk why I think that way. Something about it makes it seem that way to me. What do ya'll think?
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 9, 2015 14:00:49 GMT -5
Meh. Overhyped. I don't understand the "this shows a different side of her" argument. Style showed a different side too...Out Of The Woods would have "shown a different side too." This is going to do decent, based on her name alone, but it was absolutely the wrong choice IMO. I don't see how some of you think this is #1 CHR material. This not only shows a different side of Taylor, it shows a different side of pop. This isn't your typical radio filler song, it's an immediate standout that has garnered tons of praise from many people since the album was released. It's not just different for her, it's different for most. There's a reason the only other artist being compared to this track is Lana Del Rey. It will standout, and it will grab everyone's attention in a way "Style" and "Out of the Woods" didn't/won't do. You are correct, however, that given her name, it will immediately give the song attention, but because the song is good, it will continue on to success, and hopefully allow for other artist and songs to become successful with this sound. In no way was this the wrong choice. On the contrary, this was the correct choice. "New Romantics" just doesn't stand out enough, especially after "Bad Blood," and "Out of the Woods" has already lost its spark. It'll make a good sixth and final single, but that's it. Any other track from the album is either bland radio filler (still good songs, but not necessarily songs that help the artist grow or grab a lot of attention, a la Maroon 5) or wouldn't work as singles.
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Post by bloodline on Aug 9, 2015 14:26:13 GMT -5
I just hope they keep milking this album as far as it will go.
There's still potential singles in Out Of The Woods, All You Had To Do Was Stay, and I Wish You Would.
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Post by surfy on Aug 9, 2015 14:30:53 GMT -5
I will never understand the undeniable love so many here give for AYHTDWS and New Romantics. They're both just so... not really dated or bland, but they certainly don't stand out at all in her catalog to me. Nor do I think either song would stand out on the radio. agreed.
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Post by balletgirlmom on Aug 9, 2015 20:23:15 GMT -5
When does it go out to radio?
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Post by fearlessarrow on Aug 9, 2015 21:29:26 GMT -5
I will never understand the undeniable love so many here give for AYHTDWS and New Romantics. They're both just so... not really dated or bland, but they certainly don't stand out at all in her catalog to me. Nor do I think either song would stand out on the radio. agreed. I agree as well. It doesn't even stand out in 1989 for me. I could see it doing well as a single, but there are better songs to send to radio. I'd rather see "I Wish You Would" or "How You Get the Girl" over AYHTDWS if we're going that route instead of Wildest Dreams, OOTW, Wonderland, or New Romantics.
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Post by Clauss on Aug 9, 2015 21:34:28 GMT -5
We all know IKP it's the superior one but I assumed that it will never be a single #justice4IKP
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Post by tommymonster44 on Aug 9, 2015 21:37:51 GMT -5
This is a great song, but it doesn't sound like a #1 to me. Actually, I'm going to make the claim that Taylor doesn't have a #1 left on the album. Please don't burn me at the stake. Pop #1 or Hot 100 #1? The latter will be difficult, as her singles are doubtfully going to be able to generate big sales totals at this point in the run. The former should be very possible, as radio hasn't shown the slightest hint of disinterest in Taylor -- and there are at least 4 super-catchy pop singles left on this album. If she doesn't score another pop #1 this era, it would only be because she and/or Republic took the promotional foot off the gas. With #1 songs, especially when they are they are fifth singles on a campaign, they really need a wow factor. This wow factor may come from offering a shockingly new perspective to the artist, or maybe it comes a successful video or pop culture moment. Think Last Friday Night by Katy Perry. This is a well-made pop song, but I just don't see how she is going to turn it into a #1 when she's five singles in. Especially with Blank Space and Bad Blood still in the public's recent memory, I don't think she'll be able to make the public care enough about this song. I expect large early gains because it's Taylor Swift, but I see this song struggling to lock into that top spot down the road. What if a Royals or an All About That Bass happens? The fate of this song rests on the hope that the top 5 will be quiet when it peaks.
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Post by Clauss on Aug 9, 2015 22:01:42 GMT -5
I'm always confused if we are talking #1 in CHR or billboard
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 9, 2015 22:55:39 GMT -5
With Taylor's momentum and star power right now, it's not unreasonable to believe a fifth single could hit #1 on CHR.
Hot 100 wise, the doubt comes from that Style stopped short of cracking the top 5 coming off of 2 massive hits. Even comparing it to Last Friday Night, Hot 100 #1s weren't staying up there for that long in general at the time. And honestly, Katy got lucky that she found an opening between other massive hits. The addition of streaming will benefit Taylor for sure if the video is strong, but it's also an advantage to the completion as well, especially since aren't coming off such a big LP.
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Post by theflying on Aug 9, 2015 23:34:31 GMT -5
I honestly think people mix up songs that they enjoy and know would fit in on radio, with songs that stand out on the radio as smashes that also broaden the appeal of an artist's catalog -- which gets harder to do every successive single.
I see too many people rooting for "All You Had to do was Stay", but just because it's a good radio friendly song, doesn't mean it's the song you want to justify continuing to keep an album campaign going after four/five singles. kanimal was 100% correct, Wildest Dreams is a great choice because it sustained some of its buzz, and it's also different: You need something to sustain radio and the public's interest after four immense songs, and when you look at songs like "AYHTDWS" and "HTGTG", they just don't hold as much weight.
Using this criteria, I actually do think that if they went with a sixth single, Out of the Woods would be an excellent choice. It's, again, sonically very different, a superb song, and very catchy. I suspect however it will stay that "fan favorite that everyone wants as a single but has to stay an album gem" that every Taylor Swift album seems to have.
New Romantics, to me, has always been the one that has been a bit overhyped, and to be honest, sounds a bit tired. I just think other artists do what she was going for on that song a bit better. (Speaking strictly attitude wise, New Romantics to me would better fit Lorde or Charli XCX.)
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Post by Juan Carlos on Aug 12, 2015 9:15:05 GMT -5
Received an early pop add from WDZH-FM.
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Post by Ed The Pacifist! on Aug 12, 2015 10:18:49 GMT -5
I just read an article regarding Katy Perry Fans (who I am a fan of as well) insulting Taylor Swift. As a fan of both it really upsets me that those fandoms can't get along. :(
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Post by fearlessarrow on Aug 13, 2015 6:37:22 GMT -5
I just read an article regarding Katy Perry Fans (who I am a fan of as well) insulting Taylor Swift. As a fan of both it really upsets me that those fandoms can't get along. :( Yeah breaks my heart too since I'm a fan of both Taylor and Katy as well...
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Aug 13, 2015 8:00:47 GMT -5
New Romantics, to me, has always been the one that has been a bit overhyped, and to be honest, sounds a bit tired. I just think other artists do what she was going for on that song a bit better. (Speaking strictly attitude wise, New Romantics to me would better fit Lorde or Charli XCX.) or Ke$ha ("We're pretty and sick; we're young and we're bored" - "Blow") But I would honestly jizz all over a Lorde cover of New Romantics.
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Post by Kris on Aug 14, 2015 19:29:01 GMT -5
They played this here however it was a more upbeat and less boring version of the song which I liked a lot more, wondering if there are two versions playing?
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