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Post by sabre14 on Nov 6, 2014 11:57:40 GMT -5
Artist: Rascal Flatts Single: "Riot" Writers: Jaron Boyer, Sara Haze Album: RewindLabel: Big Machine Add Date: November 24th, 2014 Source: Play mpe Chart Run: 52* - 50* - 47* - 39* - 40* - 39* - 38* - 35* - 34* - 34* - 31* - 31* - 31* - 30* - 32* - 30* - 28* - 28* - 26* - 24* - 22* - 20* - 21* - 20* - 20* - 22 - 28 (Mediabase) Listen
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 6, 2014 12:18:49 GMT -5
After Payback missed the top 20 (the first in Rascal Flatts' career), I wonder if Big Machine can get Riot in the top 20 (even the top ten).
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 6, 2014 12:20:56 GMT -5
This is a decent choice, and is definitely more in their wheelhouse than Payback was, but I wonder if the damage has already been done. I think RF's days at radio are coming to an end, so I'm not sure about how high this song can get up the charts.
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Post by zjames on Nov 6, 2014 15:47:39 GMT -5
I don't see this doing much better than "Payback". Like dm2081 said, their days at radio are coming to an end. Personally I find the song pretty boring an unimpressive. It's just not going to generate much interest.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 15:56:08 GMT -5
I like this one, and I hope it does something.
I'm not sure any single release could revive the album, which isn't great overall. Although I'm not sure it will happen, I really thnk RF could benefit from not focusing on radio success/stats and just make a great album. They're really talented and I've always liked them, but they've gotten so boring the last few years.
I'll still pull for this to do moderately well, though.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 6, 2014 16:02:20 GMT -5
I love this one. One of my favorites one the album and so far they are three-for-three with me on the singles this era. It's a shame "Payback" became their first single to miss the Top 20, but this should do at least about as well as that one did. I'd like to see it do a little better though their momentum at radio is waning a fair bit, but I can still see this managing to crack the Top 20. It's a great song at any rate and I'm excited that it's next and not "DJ Tonight," which is one of my least-favorites on Rewind.
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Post by Kentucky25 on Nov 6, 2014 18:03:02 GMT -5
Definitely a favorite of mine from this album...hope it does very well on the charts.
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Post by dajross6 on Nov 13, 2014 18:05:30 GMT -5
One of the best songs they've released in the last five years I'd say, maybe longer. THIS is a Rascal Flatts song I can get behind and champion, and light years ahead of their last outing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:43:17 GMT -5
I've noticed they've already performed this live at various events already, and I really hope they actually promote this.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 13, 2014 19:10:16 GMT -5
I've noticed they've already performed this live at various events already, and I really hope they actually promote this. Oh they'll certainly promote this. I just think that "Payback" failed because it just didn't click with radio for whatever the reason. Perhaps it was the chorus or the grating repetition that @daydrinker eluded to in that song's thread. I do know that the song itself was why it didn't get top 20. Now whether that will factor into "Riot's" chart peak is another story all together. I don't quite know how radio will treat this one out of the gate. I could easily see radio not being overly enthusiastic about this because of the last singles struggles but who knows, maybe they will actually want this song to succeed and you may see a similar situation to what we saw with the under performing "Why" and then the top 10 peak for the follow up "Unstoppable" in late 2009/early 2010. Of course the labels are different, but that is even to their benefit since Lyric Street was a sinking ship at that point and Big Machine has proven to be a power type label.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 21:00:24 GMT -5
I've noticed they've already performed this live at various events already, and I really hope they actually promote this. Oh they'll certainly promote this. I just think that "Payback" failed because it just didn't click with radio for whatever the reason. Perhaps it was the chorus or the grating repetition that @daydrinker eluded to in that song's thread. I do know that the song itself was why it didn't get top 20. Now whether that will factor into "Riot's" chart peak is another story all together. I don't quite know how radio will treat this one out of the gate. I could easily see radio not being overly enthusiastic about this because of the last singles struggles but who knows, maybe they will actually want this song to succeed and you may see a similar situation to what we saw with the under performing "Why" and then the top 10 peak for the follow up "Unstoppable" in late 2009/early 2010. Of course the labels are different, but that is even to their benefit since Lyric Street was a sinking ship at that point and Big Machine has proven to be a power type label. Yeah, I'm curious to see how radio reacts to this one, and what RF's next move will be, depending on how this performs. Unlike the previous single, the band (especially Gary), seems very passionate about their love for this song and its message. I really hope this translates into a moderate hit. Since RF did choose to sign with Big Machine, I'm thinking all signs point to them still wanting to be a valuable assets to Country. I'm really curious to see how they will transition to being an older act who can't necessarily depend on radio or album sales to get them up the charts.
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Post by Dustin J. on Nov 14, 2014 8:28:08 GMT -5
I love this one. One of my favorites one the album and so far they are three-for-three with me on the singles this era. It's a shame "Payback" became their first single to miss the Top 20, but this should do at least about as well as that one did. I'd like to see it do a little better though their momentum at radio is waning a fair bit, but I can still see this managing to crack the Top 20. It's a great song at any rate and I'm excited that it's next and not "DJ Tonight," which is one of my least-favorites on Rewind. LOL, and I was actually going to say that I hoped it was going to be DJ Tonight.
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Post by countryfan4life on Nov 18, 2014 16:55:04 GMT -5
I hope that Rascal Flatts' radio days are not ending. :( I'll admit, they have had a couple questionable releases in the past, but through it all they have always produced solid material and have stayed true to themselves. "Riot" is an awesome song, so hopefully it will see the same success "Rewind" did and it puts them on top of the charts again. :)
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 24, 2014 23:37:40 GMT -5
36 adds for "Riot" today. Pretty much the amount I was expecting, as I thought it'd be pretty tough to outdo Garth and Sam.
I still don't really have a great feeling about how this one will perform for them. "Payback" really did them and their momentum no favors. Again, I still could see a possibility of this being another "Unstoppable" type run and crack the top 10 for them but I'm still cautiously pessimistic.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Nov 25, 2014 0:07:40 GMT -5
I remember liking this one when the album came out, but I didn't remember what it sounded like.
Listened to it, and I love it. Definitely my favorite RF track in a LONG time, and definitely a nice change after the horrendous "Payback".
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Post by matty005 on Nov 25, 2014 0:12:08 GMT -5
Kind of bad timing to release this song.
But this is a very sold track, nonetheless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 13:25:17 GMT -5
I wish Big Machine had waited until after the holidays to release this. Terrible timing, and It certainly won't do their momentum any favors.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 25, 2014 13:33:47 GMT -5
I wish Big Machine had waited until after the holidays to release this. Terrible timing, and It certainly won't do their momentum any favors. That would have been way too much downtime between singles off the same album. Big Machine made the right call here for this to be released in November. If this song fails it won't be because of the singles release date, it will be because of their lack of momentum with the failure of "Payback" and the fact this song may not strike a chord with country radio.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 13:52:01 GMT -5
^Or it will be because this went for adds the very same day massive riots broke out in Ferguson, Missouri.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 25, 2014 14:52:40 GMT -5
I wish Big Machine had waited until after the holidays to release this. Terrible timing, and It certainly won't do their momentum any favors. That would have been way too much downtime between singles off the same album. Big Machine made the right call here for this to be released in November. If this song fails it won't be because of the singles release date, it will be because of their lack of momentum with the failure of "Payback" and the fact this song may not strike a chord with country radio. Yeah, like Daydrinker and I said, the timing is bad because of what is going on with the world. If they wanted to release a song now they should have gone a different route or waited to release this one once the holidays have passed.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 25, 2014 14:59:11 GMT -5
That would have been way too much downtime between singles off the same album. Big Machine made the right call here for this to be released in November. If this song fails it won't be because of the singles release date, it will be because of their lack of momentum with the failure of "Payback" and the fact this song may not strike a chord with country radio. Yeah, like Daydrinker and I said, the timing is bad because of what is going on with the world. If they wanted to release a song now they should have gone a different route or waited to release this one once the holidays have passed. Remember this got 36 adds yesterday. It's not like country radio is holding a revolt just because the title of the song is what is going on in Missouri. The song itself is also completely different anyway. I guarantee that any song they chose off this record would have gotten somewhere between 35-40 adds yesterday. I know what's going on in Ferguson has really been emotional for anybody involved right now but that is not what will make this song fail at radio. I respect your feelings and understand the timing aspect but that is not what's going to be the downfall of this song - it will be Rascal Flatts radio momentum, song quality, and competition. And waiting til the new year would have been just too long. My goodness gracious, we still have five weeks left in 2014 and that would mean over two months without a single. If they waited til the new year, it had better be a lead single IMO.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 25, 2014 15:37:35 GMT -5
Yeah, like Daydrinker and I said, the timing is bad because of what is going on with the world. If they wanted to release a song now they should have gone a different route or waited to release this one once the holidays have passed. Remember this got 36 adds yesterday. It's not like country radio is holding a revolt just because the title of the song is what is going on in Missouri. The song itself is also completely different anyway. I guarantee that any song they chose off this record would have gotten somewhere between 35-40 adds yesterday. I know what's going on in Ferguson has really been emotional for anybody involved right now but that is not what will make this song fail at radio. I respect your feelings and understand the timing aspect but that is not what's going to be the downfall of this song - it will be Rascal Flatts radio momentum, song quality, and competition. And waiting til the new year would have been just too long. My goodness gracious, we still have five weeks left in 2014 and that would mean over two months without a single. If they waited til the new year, it had better be a lead single IMO. It did get 36 adds, but that was before the verdict was read and the riots began. I just don't think people will want to hear a song with the title that reminds them of such awful events that are going on in the country. I don't think they should have waited, but like I said before, I feel like they should have released a different single. Sara Evans was coming off multiple hits in a row and she released "Coalmine" after a coalmine tragedy, and the song flopped.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 25, 2014 16:08:32 GMT -5
Remember this got 36 adds yesterday. It's not like country radio is holding a revolt just because the title of the song is what is going on in Missouri. The song itself is also completely different anyway. I guarantee that any song they chose off this record would have gotten somewhere between 35-40 adds yesterday. I know what's going on in Ferguson has really been emotional for anybody involved right now but that is not what will make this song fail at radio. I respect your feelings and understand the timing aspect but that is not what's going to be the downfall of this song - it will be Rascal Flatts radio momentum, song quality, and competition. And waiting til the new year would have been just too long. My goodness gracious, we still have five weeks left in 2014 and that would mean over two months without a single. If they waited til the new year, it had better be a lead single IMO. It did get 36 adds, but that was before the verdict was read and the riots began. I just don't think people will want to hear a song with the title that reminds them of such awful events that are going on in the country. I don't think they should have waited, but like I said before, I feel like they should have released a different single. Sara Evans was coming off multiple hits in a row and she released "Coalmine" after a coalmine tragedy, and the song flopped. So are you saying that this would not have gotten 36 adds if this was let's say next week? This decision to release this song was made back in October before the verdict came down and I honestly think that Big Machine doesn't think it will matter, nor do I. Please, don't make that seem like I'm turning a blind eye to the events in Ferguson, cause I'm not. But I really don't think radio will reject this song or it will stall because of Ferguson, Missouri. I'll be completely honest - it never crossed my mind once when this single was announced. If that makes me not engaged with the emotional or political culture in the country right now, then fine, that's for you to decide if you so choose. I like to think I'm a reasonable person and respectful when it comes to sensitive issues, but I just think that a song about a person who is fearing losing his significant other, that happens to have the word "riot" in the title, will not have its success or failure hinged on a recent judicial event in Ferguson, Missouri. Again, if this song ends up peaking lower than what Big Machine is hoping for (which if I had to bet, would say it will) it will be because of natural circumstances and not because of Ferguson. Also, this song was helped picked by the fans. They had a RateTheMusic survey to determine the next single and many people obviously wanted this song over the others released. In the end, I just feel that it won't matter too much. We just disagree on this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 16:21:56 GMT -5
I don't know if these events will have an impact or not, but the timing was just so ironically horrible. The song just went for adds yesterday and last night huge riots began to break out. Big Machine probably never could have foreseen this and I admittedly didn't even realize the irony until this morning. It's just an unfortunate situation all around. Maybe "Riot" will do just fine despite the events. Maybe it will flop for reasons unrelated to the events. I think it all depends on the listener feedback. If radio stations decide to go ahead and play this and then listeners start to call in and complain, they will stop. But I just don't expect this single to do much anyway. I think Rascal Flatts should start trying to get an album out once every year to year-and-a-half since their momentum is quickly waning and it may be tough to even get a second single from them up the charts.
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Post by codyj100 on Dec 3, 2014 1:39:26 GMT -5
REALLY hoping this does much better than "Payback." I have been an RF fan from the start, but "Payback" was the only single I didn't care for from them. I've met them and seen them live twice. The entire Rewind era is very personal for me. These guys are some of the most down to earth people and they continue to still reach out and stay in contact with me. "Riot" is my favorite track on the album. I realize their momentum at radio is slowing down, which is unfortunate, I just hope this at least makes it to 25.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Dec 3, 2014 10:25:20 GMT -5
^Or it will be because this went for adds the very same day massive riots broke out in Ferguson, Missouri. I agree with you on that. I don't expect to hear this much in STL.
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Post by Zazie on Dec 3, 2014 21:19:45 GMT -5
In 1995, Pam Tillis released a single called I Was Blown Away. It was a love song, not about politics -- I think it rhymed "smithereens" with "blue jeans." My memory is hazy, but I think this was close in time to the Oklahoma City bombing, and country radio had problems with Pam's song. Sound familiar? Nothing connected her "blown away" with real explosions, but in the end the label pulled the song because of country radio's reaction.
So this has happened before, and I wouldn't be surprised if country radio shied away from the RF song -- if you think country radio wouldn't take chances in 1995, well, they're a lot less likely to take chances now. There have been other songs in similar circumstances that have been pulled, or that haven't done as well -- Holly Dunn's career went downhill because of a song title of hers.
I'm not predicting this will happen. I don't know the future. But I do know a little about the past, and I don't see how you could be sure it won't happen again.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 4, 2014 11:13:34 GMT -5
In 1995, Pam Tillis released a single called I Was Blown Away. It was a love song, not about politics -- I think it rhymed "smithereens" with "blue jeans." My memory is hazy, but I think this was close in time to the Oklahoma City bombing, and country radio had problems with Pam's song. Sound familiar? Nothing connected her "blown away" with real explosions, but in the end the label pulled the song because of country radio's reaction. So this has happened before, and I wouldn't be surprised if country radio shied away from the RF song -- if you think country radio wouldn't take chances in 1995, well, they're a lot less likely to take chances now. There have been other songs in similar circumstances that have been pulled, or that haven't done as well -- Holly Dunn's career went downhill because of a song title of hers. I'm not predicting this will happen. I don't know the future. But I do know a little about the past, and I don't see how you could be sure it won't happen again. Don't forget another example: Billy Joe Royal just collected his first top ten with Burned Like A Rocket when the space shuttle Challenger exploded in January, 1986. The Holly Dunn song you are referring to is Maybe I Mean Yes (#48 in 1991) off her first hits CD, Milestones: Greatest Hits.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 4, 2014 16:59:43 GMT -5
What is wrong with the title "Maybe I Mean Yes"?
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 4, 2014 17:11:20 GMT -5
What is wrong with the title "Maybe I Mean Yes"? Nothing wrong with the title. However, listen to the song and you tell us what you think:
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