Zach
7x Platinum Member
And at once I knew I was not magnificent...
Joined: September 2015
Posts: 7,532
|
Post by Zach on Nov 29, 2015 0:22:37 GMT -5
Am I the only person who it annoys how informal the Canadian Hot 100 is treated?
|
|
willnower
New Member
Joined: November 2015
Posts: 19
|
Post by willnower on Nov 29, 2015 11:14:23 GMT -5
Am I the only person who it annoys how informal the Canadian Hot 100 is treated? Absolutely not. I've been trying to contact Billboard for months to correct the errors that they have made on the Canadian Hot 100 this past year. It was fine before 2015 so I don't know what led them to all of a sudden cause so many errors. First, too many songs were dropping out from unrealistically high positions on the chart and put into recurrent status (e.g. "Style" by Taylor Swift from number 29, "Love Me Like You Do" by Ellie Goulding from number 23, "Elastic Heart" by Sia from number 24) and now, there are way too many songs that are staying on the chart despite being below the top 50 and surpassing 20 weeks (e.g. "Five More Hours" by Deorro x Chris Brown, "Jackpot" by Jocelyn Alice, "Waiting for Love" by Avicii, "Marvin Gaye" by Charlie Puth feat. Meghan Trainor). Altough techniclally plausible, I find it very odd and extremely suspicious. It annoys me so much. At point, it even seemed like they got rid of the 20 week rule. I eventally got got a response from someone who works at Nielsen. He is aware that there was an error a couple of months ago that caused two songs to accidentally drop out. The two songs were "Ex's & Oh's" by Elle King and "Sound of Your Heart" by Shawn Hook (they both dropped out from the 20s). As for many other songs, however, he believes that the chart is accurate based on the rules regarding how long songs can stay on the chart. He got my emails from Billboard. Since I sent so many different emails at so many different times (under different accounts with very similar names but different providers), I guess I didn't fully elaborate on some important details that may have made the difference between him understanding and not understanding what I was talking about. Presumably, I need to provide him with proof that many songs did not do significantly worse in overall performance to drop out at the times that they did. I am currently doing that, and based on observing digital sales on iTunes (from a particular website that observes how each songs do on the iTunes chart every single day), it looks like many of them did drop out accidentally. I'm having trouble finding archives of the Canada All-Format Airplay. There is a website that has detailed information on Canadian airplay, but it updates every single week and once it updates, you can't find what was on the website the previous week. Maybe someone here on Pulse Music Board posted the results and detailed information of the Canada All-Format Airplay every single week. These are the websites I was referring to: www.itunescharts.net/can/charts.bdsradio.com/bdsradiocharts/charts.aspx?formatid=43
|
|
brady47
Platinum Member
Joined: February 2013
Posts: 1,449
|
Post by brady47 on Nov 29, 2015 15:04:46 GMT -5
Am I the only person who it annoys how informal the Canadian Hot 100 is treated? Exactly! It clearly showed that the week that Earned It dropped off, it was still in the top 50 because it was above top 50 songs on the Canadian Emerging Songs chart... Earned It lost a whole bunch of points for year-end because of that mistake, it will likely miss top 10 and even top 20.
|
|
yuh yuh
2x Platinum Member
donde voy, tu siempre iras - donde estoy, tu siempre estaras
Joined: August 2015
Posts: 2,680
|
Post by yuh yuh on Nov 29, 2015 15:14:47 GMT -5
Also Love Me Like You Do dropped in 20s positions in Canada..
|
|
lyhom
Diamond Member
CAPSLOCK-PHOBE
Joined: January 2014
Posts: 11,061
My Charts
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by lyhom on Nov 29, 2015 15:32:32 GMT -5
tbh the canadian hot 100 has been fucked up for a while now to me, there's been songs in that late-2013 period like "We Can't Stop" and "Story Of My Life" that fell off for no reason in their runs only to re-enter the next week, I remember "Burnin' It Down" dropping from 39 to 72 the week of jason aldean's album release only to go up to #50 the next, that time in the middle of this year where songs went recurrent way to early, and now the whole thing of songs not going recurrent at all
like what the fuck
|
|
willnower
New Member
Joined: November 2015
Posts: 19
|
Post by willnower on Nov 29, 2015 20:45:09 GMT -5
tbh the canadian hot 100 has been f**ked up for a while now to me, there's been songs in that late-2013 period like "We Can't Stop" and "Story Of My Life" that fell off for no reason in their runs only to re-enter the next week, I remember "Burnin' It Down" dropping from 39 to 72 the week of jason aldean's album release only to go up to #50 the next, that time in the middle of this year where songs went recurrent way to early, and now the whole thing of songs not going recurrent at all like what the f uck Actually, when certain songs dropped drastically on the Canadian Hot 100 when their albums were released, it had something to do with the Complete My Album feature on iTunes drastically lowering digital sales of specific songs. To this day, the Complete My Album feature still lowers the digital sales of songs, even in the United States, although not much. The reasons those songs you mentioned lowered on the charts simply because of their digital sales may have had something to do with the fact that back then, streaming wasn't as big in Canada, mainly because Canada had no Spotify at time. Or, it could also have had something to do with a possible rule relating to songs and the releases of albums. Anyways, songs no longer drop drastically when the albums containing the songs are released (thankfully).
|
|
willnower
New Member
Joined: November 2015
Posts: 19
|
Post by willnower on Nov 29, 2015 21:07:11 GMT -5
tbh the canadian hot 100 has been f**ked up for a while now to me, there's been songs in that late-2013 period like "We Can't Stop" and "Story Of My Life" that fell off for no reason in their runs only to re-enter the next week, I remember "Burnin' It Down" dropping from 39 to 72 the week of jason aldean's album release only to go up to #50 the next, that time in the middle of this year where songs went recurrent way to early, and now the whole thing of songs not going recurrent at all like what the f uck I agree that the Canadian Hot 100 has been really f**ked up lately. I do not know why but they seriously need to change. Billboard f**ked up badly with the Canadian Singles chart from 2000-2007 because they did not treat it seriously enough. They did not take into account that digital sales were becoming increasingly more popular and that physical sales were dying. Now, because of what they did, we have no way of knowing what songs were popular during those years, which I would really like to know. I hope that the Canadian Hot 100 is not going into the same path as the Canadian Singles Chart did years ago where it will become so fucked up that we will no longer be able to tell what songs are truly popular.
|
|
willnower
New Member
Joined: November 2015
Posts: 19
|
Post by willnower on Dec 22, 2015 15:30:04 GMT -5
Am I the only person who it annoys how informal the Canadian Hot 100 is treated? For the second week in a row, "Uptown Funk" by Mark Ronson feat. Bruno Mars is still on the Canadian Hot 100 chart, despite being below number 25, not receiving a "gains in performance" last week or this week, and being on the chart for more than 52 weeks. What is going on?!
|
|
rimetm
2x Platinum Member
Just a Good Ol' Chart Shmuck
|
Post by rimetm on Dec 22, 2015 16:02:05 GMT -5
I don't think they added that rule to their chart. In any case, the 20-weekers are now being treated normally.
|
|
Zach
7x Platinum Member
And at once I knew I was not magnificent...
Joined: September 2015
Posts: 7,532
|
Post by Zach on Dec 22, 2015 19:37:47 GMT -5
I don't think they added that rule to their chart. In any case, the 20-weekers are now being treated normally. Being treated normally as in going to recurrent as they should? That's great!
|
|