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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 4, 2014 18:02:02 GMT -5
www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgiYOUR TOP 15: It looks like a race is brewing for the #1 best-selling album next week. Taylor Swift and Pentatonix are both hovering around 190k in sales. Tay Tay will take a wide lead once track sales and streaming are added in, however. Here’s how it looks with only three weekends left before Christmas. Sigh. 1. Taylor Swift (Big Machine) 185-195k / 235-245k SPS 2. Pentatonix (RCA) 185-195k / 200-210k SPS 3. AC/DC (Columbia) 135-145k / 140-150k SPS 4. Idina Menzel (Warner Bros.) 70-75k / 75-80k SPS 5. Michael Buble (Reprise) 60-65k / 65-70k SPS 6. Garth Brooks (Pearl/RCA Nashville) 55-60k / 55-60k SPS 7. One Direction (SYCO/Columbia) 50-55k / 65-70k SPS 8. Sam Smith (Capitol) 40-45k / 60-65k SPS 9. Mary J. Blige (Capitol) 40-45k / 40-45k SPS 10. Pink Floyd (Parlophone) 40-45k / 45-50k SPS 11. Michael W. Smith (Sparrow) 30-35k / 30-35k SPS 12. Barbra Streisand (Columbia) 30-35k / 30-35k SPS 13. Tony Bennett & Lady Gaga (Columbia/Interscope) 30-35k / 30-35k SPS 14. Frozen (Walt Disney) 28-32k / 30-35k SPS 15. SHADYXV (Shady/Aftermath/Interscope) 27-30k / 30-35k SPS *Debuts In other Top 15 news, we've been wondering what the record time is for quickest consumption of 15 glasses of eggnog without puking. (12/4p)
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Post by Caviar on Dec 4, 2014 18:10:50 GMT -5
Mary. :'(
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 4, 2014 18:19:14 GMT -5
3 Christmas albums in the Top 5 = weak release schedule.
Nice re-climbs from Pink Floyd and Bennett/GaGa.
Garth is holding on.
So is Michael W Smith...
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Dec 4, 2014 18:24:11 GMT -5
3 Christmas albums in the Top 5 = weak release schedule. Nice re-climbs from Pink Floyd and Bennett/GaGa. Garth is holding on. So is Michael W Smith... [br Especially when one of those albums isn't even new |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Dec 4, 2014 18:34:16 GMT -5
Idina, nu Holiday queen.
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Post by Duca on Dec 4, 2014 18:36:04 GMT -5
Yet another great hold for Taylor.
Terrible #s for AC/DC.
1D probably won't go platinum (in actual sales.)
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Post by newpower on Dec 4, 2014 18:48:28 GMT -5
www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgiYOUR TOP 15: It looks like a race is brewing for the #1 best-selling album next week. Taylor Swift and Pentatonix are both hovering around 190k in sales. Tay Tay will take a wide lead once track sales and streaming are added in, however. streaming from where? |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 4, 2014 18:52:50 GMT -5
^It's available at other streaming sites. Just not Spotify...
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Post by Green Baron on Dec 4, 2014 19:04:12 GMT -5
Those AC/DC numbers are horrible.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 4, 2014 19:08:04 GMT -5
Ouch @ Mary.
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Post by Nick on Dec 4, 2014 19:46:09 GMT -5
With one founding member gone, there may not be so much interest in a new AC/DC album.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 4, 2014 20:04:09 GMT -5
^And no promotion...
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Dec 4, 2014 20:26:53 GMT -5
^It's available at other streaming sites. Just not Spotify... It's not getting any streams though. Last week, it had 36k streams, so that added less than 24 copies to its total. It's all from track sales. |
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Post by Green Baron on Dec 4, 2014 20:29:18 GMT -5
Track sales should not count.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 20:36:46 GMT -5
How are Mary's sales even bad? Considering the state of R&B sales, especially females, and especially females over 40, and the fact the only place she has a hit is Urban AC, those seem good to me. Shows she has a pretty strong core following.
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Post by Rican@ on Dec 4, 2014 22:53:29 GMT -5
Damn so the streaming into sales only really benefit younger artists, ugh. Not sure if I really like that.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Dec 4, 2014 23:07:08 GMT -5
Damn so the streaming into sales only really benefit younger artists, ugh. Not sure if I really like that. why? If their audiences streamed or bought singles, they would benefit. Their audiences are still buying albums. |
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Post by Rican@ on Dec 4, 2014 23:22:57 GMT -5
Damn so the streaming into sales only really benefit younger artists, ugh. Not sure if I really like that. why? If their audiences streamed or bought singles, they would benefit. Their audiences are still buying albums. I know that. I'm just saying that I would love to see older artists benefit from this new method as well; however, older artists rarely sell singles and aren't quite popular with streaming either. I don't like the disadvantage that they have now with this. Let me not speak on genre focus because "Pop" artists (some country and rap artists) will truly get the "goodness" of this. |
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Post by kanimal on Dec 4, 2014 23:42:01 GMT -5
why? If their audiences streamed or bought singles, they would benefit. Their audiences are still buying albums. I know that. I'm just saying that I would love to see older artists benefit from this new method as well; however, older artists rarely sell singles and aren't quite popular with streaming either. I don't like the disadvantage that they have now with this. Let me not speak on genre focus because "Pop" artists (some country and rap artists) will truly get the "goodness" of this. While I agree in finding it ridiculous that a chart adapted to measure "consumption" is only measuring certain forms of "consumption" (most applicable to a certain class of artist), note that changing the chart rules only makes sense if it *does* change rankings (that's why I find it odd that people are simultaneously defending the rule change but also saying - look, not much is changing). The only reason to adjust the chart methodology is if you feel you have a more accurate way of measuring album popularity/consumption. In this case, Billboard is saying that the previous methodology disproportionately *hurt* younger/modern/pop artists and is thus correcting for that (and better capturing true album status) by incorporating streams. |
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Post by WotUNeed on Dec 4, 2014 23:44:56 GMT -5
Damn so the streaming into sales only really benefit younger artists, ugh. Not sure if I really like that. I think that was the whole point of changing the formula. A strictly sales-based chart represents an antiquated model of music consumption that is not reflective of the current technological landscape. It's mainly helping younger artists because younger people are the ones who have grown up with the mindset that streaming songs and digitally cherrypicking album tracks to purchase are viable, or even desirable, ways to experience music. |
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 5, 2014 14:09:14 GMT -5
9. Mary J. Blige (Capitol) 40-45k / 40-45k SPS peaked at #6 (3.4m to date). My Life debuted at #7 with 231k (2.8m sold to date). Share My World debuted at #1 with 240k (3m sold to date). Mary debuted at #2 with 239k (2.1m sold to date). No More Drama debuted at #2 with 324k (2.92m sold to date). Love & Life debuted at #1 with 285k (950k sold to date). The Breakthrough debuted at #1 with 729k (2.96m sold to date). Growing Pains debuted at #2 with 629k (1.5m sold to date). Stronger with Each Tear debuted at #2 with 332k (730k sold to date). My Life II... The Journey Continues debuted at #5 with 156k (709k sold to date). A Mary Christmas debuted at #23 with 12k (340k sold to date). |
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Post by kanimal on Dec 5, 2014 22:14:11 GMT -5
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Post by grandelf on Dec 6, 2014 0:20:54 GMT -5
And they also dropped the building album sales chart it seems...
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Post by H. on Dec 6, 2014 10:42:14 GMT -5
I wish AC/DC got number one.
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Post by swim on Dec 6, 2014 12:14:40 GMT -5
So Billboard has Taylor at 225,000 for the week? Isn't Billboard usually more conservative than HITS? This is perhaps even better news for Taylor then. If she clears 225,000 then it's up from there until the end of the year.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Dec 6, 2014 12:52:17 GMT -5
I don't think they're saying that Pentatonix is a threat for #1, just that the steaming will bring help it more than it will for 1989. After all, 1989 only had 36k total streams last week. Making up some of the difference doesn't mean that it will surpass it. Everyone knows that's impossible because 1989's track sales. |
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Post by kanimal on Dec 6, 2014 15:25:58 GMT -5
I don't think they're saying that Pentatonix is a threat for #1, just that the steaming will bring help it more than it will for 1989. After all, 1989 only had 36k total streams last week. Making up some of the difference doesn't mean that it will surpass it. Everyone knows that's impossible because 1989's track sales. I know they're not saying it's going to win, but last week, SEA+TEA didn't help it make up the difference. It actually lost ground because Swift's received a far greater boost from TEA. Swift led PTX by like 64,000 copies on the sales chart but by over 100,000 on the BB200 |
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Dec 6, 2014 15:47:25 GMT -5
Damn so the streaming into sales only really benefit younger artists, ugh. Not sure if I really like that. I have a feeling that once older people "get in" with the whole streaming thing, the numbers are going to start shifting. Kind of like how Facebook was for millennials but now there are plenty of folks from the prior generation on it. |
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Dec 6, 2014 16:04:38 GMT -5
Damn so the streaming into sales only really benefit younger artists, ugh. Not sure if I really like that. I have a feeling that once older people "get in" with the whole streaming thing, the numbers are going to start shifting. Kind of like how Facebook was for millennials but now there are plenty of folks from the prior generation on it. I dont think older consumers will ever make that shift (at least until they stop producing physical albums, which I don't see happening for a very long time. They're are buying digitals yet, let alone streaming. |
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Post by someguy on Dec 6, 2014 16:19:05 GMT -5
My biggest issue with streaming is that it could count multiple listens from one person. If someone buys an album but listens to it every day, it would only count as one purchase. However with streaming, someone could not buy an album, but then stream it numerous times, and it would count numerous times (unless they've addressed this somehow and I've missed it. Sorry if that's the case).
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