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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 10, 2015 20:01:33 GMT -5
It's been like this for a while though. There's nothing that makes me feel optimistic about their artists future prospects at radio. Sure, perhaps they'll score a hit here or there from someone not named Lee Brice, but getting back to having 3, 4, even 5 singles at any given time on the chart like the 90's or mid 2000's is highly unlikely to happen, at least not for some time yet IMO. Radio knows they are there. Radio just has better things to do in their minds. Of course, it's going to take time. Warner took a lot of time to be where they are now. That's Curb's playbook, IMO. Mo, Ruthie and perhaps Dylan Scott are part of the approach. You say this like Curb is an up and coming label or something. They've been around forever and they had huge success with artists like Tim McGraw, Jo Dee Messina, LeAnn Rimes, Wynonna, and many others. The state of the label today is just sad and there's no denying it. I'm pretty sure that the last time Curb got a hit from someone not named Lee Brice was "Take a Back Road" and "Better Than I Used to Be," both in 2011. That's a pretty abysmal track record as of late.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 9:06:15 GMT -5
I definitely expected more than 22 adds...I was thinking it would get somewhere around 35. Although, technically, it still tied with Waterloo Revival as most-added, at least when it came to songs with Feb. 9 adds dates. Kenny Chesney and Kip Moore were most-added overall though, still a week after their Feb. 2 adds dates.
There just seems to be more hype around this one than, say, American Young or Sweetwater Rain, who were the last 2 new acts that Curb was able to chart with. American Young got up to #44 with debut single "Love Is War", and Sweetwater Rain reached #52 with "Starshine".
But I agree in that Curb is a terrible label, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I think they've got a lot of talented artists and I'm sure there are a lot of great people that work for the label, but the fact is that they just haven't done well with country radio at all. They're either "not cultivating" relationships like other labels do (which is basically brown-nosing, but hey! That's the country music industry for ya) or they just don't know what they're doing. I've also noticed that, when they take new artists on radio tours, they seem to focus on a lot of the small market stations and not so many big stations, but I could be wrong about that.
Anyway, I think Mo is up to about 30-35 total stations since a handful added this one early, so I'm hoping that radio recognizes the true talent here and that "Country" can still win out in the end. It'll be tough, especially since it's Curb, but I'm still gonna hold out that hope. My biggest hope, though, is that artists like Mo and also Lee Brice get away from Curb as soon as they can.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Feb 11, 2015 9:23:36 GMT -5
I agree in that Curb is a terrible label, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. The fact is that they just haven't done well with country radio at all. My biggest hope, though, is that artists like Mo and also Lee Brice get away from Curb as soon as they can. Agreed with this 100 per cent. The only artist on Curb that is doing decently now is Lee Brice. Rodney Atkins used to score hits but now he's struggling too.
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Post by rsmatto on Feb 11, 2015 11:05:24 GMT -5
Of course, it's going to take time. Warner took a lot of time to be where they are now. That's Curb's playbook, IMO. Mo, Ruthie and perhaps Dylan Scott are part of the approach. You say this like Curb is an up and coming label or something. They've been around forever and they had huge success with artists like Tim McGraw, Jo Dee Messina, LeAnn Rimes, Wynonna, and many others. The state of the label today is just sad and there's no denying it. I'm pretty sure that the last time Curb got a hit from someone not named Lee Brice was "Take a Back Road" and "Better Than I Used to Be," both in 2011. That's a pretty abysmal track record as of late. Of course it is Abysmal. But there was a time when ALL Warner Bros. was getting was Blake Shelton (and even those weren't guaranteed hits). But they rebounded. That's what I observe CURB doing here. They still have a ton of artists that they only work to secondary radio (Rachel Holder) and don't always have the best single choices (Dylan Scott) but they've got a few talented artists that they're working hard to change their fortunes. That's gonna take time. It just is.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 5, 2015 13:45:28 GMT -5
This song is slowly but surely making its way here. "Country" cracks the top 50 on the MB rolling chart today. It's up 270k in audience this week and has gained 172 spins the past 10 days.
I'm still not expecting this to be a big hit but perhaps it can manage to match the chart success of another traditional song from a newcomer, Bradley Gaskin's "Bartender" in 2011. All I'm asking for is a lengthy stay and a top 40 to top 30 peak.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 21:24:18 GMT -5
I'm actually really shocked to see this make the Mediabase chart "only" a month after the adds date with 61 reporters this week. This just comes across as way too traditional for mainstream country radio and Curb's pretty weak track record for working singles to radio over the past few years makes this even more surprising. Dylan Scott's "Makin' This Boy Go Crazy" took over a year to peak at #55 and his subsequent two singles couldn't even chart even though he's gotten a lot of support from XM radio and is making quite a buzz. Even Lee Brice is experiencing diminishing returns on the charts despite consistently strong iTunes sales and fan support.
Obviously #47 on the Mediabase chart with 550 spins and 2.5 million audience isn't anything to write home about and I'm still not expecting this to reach the Top 30, but I just found it strange that Mo Pitney would be the one Curb could finally attract some moderate radio attention with. I wonder if radio really likes Mo or his traditional style?
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 9, 2015 21:32:34 GMT -5
I'm actually really shocked to see this make the Mediabase chart "only" a month after the adds date with 61 reporters this week. This just comes across as way too traditional for mainstream country radio and Curb's pretty weak track record for working singles to radio over the past few years makes this even more surprising. Dylan Scott's "Makin' This Boy Go Crazy" took over a year to peak at #55 and his subsequent two singles couldn't even chart even though he's gotten a lot of support from XM radio and is making quite a buzz. Even Lee Brice is experiencing diminishing returns on the charts despite consistently strong iTunes sales and fan support. Obviously #47 on the Mediabase chart with 550 spins and 2.5 million audience isn't anything to write home about and I'm still not expecting this to reach the Top 30, but I just found it strange that Mo Pitney would be the one Curb could finally some moderate radio attention with. I wonder if radio really likes Mo or his traditional style? Eh, I'm not that shocked. Would I have predicted it? Probably not; but Mo had tons of momentum considering his style and label. I don't think it's fair to bring up Dylan Scott since his singles are promoted through Sidewalk and I always thought that radio doesn't really take that imprint as seriously as Curb would like. They practically ignored Morgan Frazier and Dylan's songs after "Makin' This Boy Go Crazy" did nothing. I think that some lean back towards a more traditional sound has helped, though it's still nowhere near what it was even 10-15 years ago. Radio knows Mo's talent and he impressed on his tour, so a steady support is not too surprising. I think Curb has done just about as well as they possibly could have with Mo and his debut. Though, I also am hard pressed to see this exceeding the top 30, but you never know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 21:38:44 GMT -5
I'm actually really shocked to see this make the Mediabase chart "only" a month after the adds date with 61 reporters this week. This just comes across as way too traditional for mainstream country radio and Curb's pretty weak track record for working singles to radio over the past few years makes this even more surprising. Dylan Scott's "Makin' This Boy Go Crazy" took over a year to peak at #55 and his subsequent two singles couldn't even chart even though he's gotten a lot of support from XM radio and is making quite a buzz. Even Lee Brice is experiencing diminishing returns on the charts despite consistently strong iTunes sales and fan support. Obviously #47 on the Mediabase chart with 550 spins and 2.5 million audience isn't anything to write home about and I'm still not expecting this to reach the Top 30, but I just found it strange that Mo Pitney would be the one Curb could finally attract some moderate radio attention with. I wonder if radio really likes Mo or his traditional style? The difference in your example is that Dylan Scott's unmemorable songs are pretty crappy, as is the playlist of XM radio (namely, The Highway) which is why most of the songs they play 10 times a day aren't heard anywhere else. Meanwhile, this nice little ditty has a real chance as long as Curb can keep it alive long enough for stations to keep jumping on board. I do agree that Curb isn't going to do Mo any favors. The real question is: can Mo do Curb any?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:00:12 GMT -5
I'm actually really shocked to see this make the Mediabase chart "only" a month after the adds date with 61 reporters this week. This just comes across as way too traditional for mainstream country radio and Curb's pretty weak track record for working singles to radio over the past few years makes this even more surprising. Dylan Scott's "Makin' This Boy Go Crazy" took over a year to peak at #55 and his subsequent two singles couldn't even chart even though he's gotten a lot of support from XM radio and is making quite a buzz. Even Lee Brice is experiencing diminishing returns on the charts despite consistently strong iTunes sales and fan support. Obviously #47 on the Mediabase chart with 550 spins and 2.5 million audience isn't anything to write home about and I'm still not expecting this to reach the Top 30, but I just found it strange that Mo Pitney would be the one Curb could finally attract some moderate radio attention with. I wonder if radio really likes Mo or his traditional style? I'm not that shocked at all. There is a lot of buzz around Mo. He doesn't desire to be the face of any sort of "traditionalist" movement (and he's said so in interviews), but a lot of traditional country fans have rallied behind him and his music. Mo writes very good songs and he sings them just as good - he's gifted with an incredible voice, and overall he's just really talented. And radio knows this--they've seen him firsthand. Because he's on Curb Records I'm not about to predict that this will be a huge hit, but there's been a much, much bigger groundswell of momentum for Mo and this single than there was for any other new act that Curb has tried to launch over the last few years (Dylan Scott, Sweetwater Rain, American Young). I mean, just look at some of the online reaction (including sites like Pulse)...plus Mo has gotten some big praise in various online publications. Curb has a big full-page ad out for Mo in tonight's Aircheck Weekly; it's the kind of in-depth and detailed ad that we typically don't see from Curb (which bodes well for Mo, in my opinion). (view image here)
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 17, 2015 12:09:52 GMT -5
12 adds for "Country" this week with 7 of them being iHeartMedia stations. That brings its total to 73. I still say this isn't a sizable hit, but at least a top 40 peak is looking likely as of now.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 17, 2015 21:35:41 GMT -5
Glad that the adds keep coming in for this. I feel like this would probably take off if he were on a label with more clout than present-day Curb, but so far they've been doing alright with it.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 18, 2015 14:16:47 GMT -5
Glad that the adds keep coming in for this. I feel like this would probably take off if he were on a label with more clout than present-day Curb, but so far they've been doing alright with it. I don't know. I think he still has the "traditional" moniker holding him back and that'd happen no matter the label. Slow and steady works and anything that breaks Top 40 will be a huge win for him and Curb.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 15:43:08 GMT -5
The early response to this has been far better than any other non-Lee Brice single that Curb has released in years, probably going back to Tim's last Curb hit ("Better Than I Used To Be") in early 2012, and Rodney Atkins' last big hit ("Take A Back Road") which peaked in October 2011. Since then the label has really only had success with Lee.
Obviously Mo still has a ways to go here but the early response has been very solid. It wouldn't matter if this was a really country-pop song or if Mo was on a different label...the fact is that he's a new artist, so this song was going to climb slowly regardless of its style (traditional or contemporary). The only new artists that have moved up very quickly recently are FGL and Sam Hunt, and they're the exceptions.
I'm feeling cautiously optimistic about how this one will do. I don't know that I want to predict a top 20 hit yet but radio really seems to like Mo, and it picked up a very nice number of adds on Monday.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 22, 2015 16:13:25 GMT -5
After the big 12 adds last week, "Country" has had it's best week at radio thus far, as it's up 150 spins and 860k in audience, and moves from #46 to #43 on MB.
Like I said, top 40 is assured right now and perhaps this can be the start of at least a top 30 peak. I think some cautious optimism is okay here.
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Post by :) KUFan on Mar 24, 2015 1:39:43 GMT -5
Just wanted to mention that as I was searching around on ITunes, I came across Mo Pitney's "Clean Up on Aisle Five." I'm not sure what that means for this song but it's on ITunes as a single.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 24, 2015 9:48:21 GMT -5
^ Means nothing as far as radio goes, because they're definitely not switching singles here. That said, it's lovely that they've thrown this song out there for fans to purchase.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 24, 2015 9:54:21 GMT -5
^ Means nothing as far as radio goes, because they're definitely not switching singles here. That said, it's lovely that they've thrown this song out there for fans to purchase. It's such a great song. It might have been a decade or so, though, since a song like this broke into the Top 40. That's my favorite of the stuff I've heard from him. (I also have a great song called "It's Just A Dog, Right?" and "Come Do A Little Life")
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 27, 2015 12:14:14 GMT -5
After some promising weeks in March, "Country" has definitely hit a snag. Some of that is without a doubt due to the competitive 40's, which has seen songs fighting tooth and claw for airplay, but over the past four weeks, "Country" has gained just 116k in total audience on MB.
I still think a top 40 finish is possible here (don't forget that Curb relentlessly stuck with American Young's "Love Is War" for a #42 peak on MB in early 2014) but that will probably be all for Mo.
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Post by sabre14 on May 1, 2015 12:39:31 GMT -5
Co-writer of "Country", Bill Anderson, was honored by having a credit on a charting single in seven consecutive decades. Music Row
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Post by rbundy1987 on May 22, 2015 19:23:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 19:34:01 GMT -5
Great simple, meaningful video.
It's a shame that this gem is going to fizzle out in the current sad state of country music affairs.
Sam Hunt can truck it.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 19:37:44 GMT -5
Great simple, meaningful video. It's a shame that this gem is going to fizzle out in the current sad state of country music affairs. Sam Hunt can truck it. Sam Hunt can take his pop music to the pop world where it belongs and Mo Pitney should be the break-out star of 2015.
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Post by sabre14 on May 23, 2015 16:08:56 GMT -5
They finally played this on The Highway this afternoon (though it was on their hour long "On The Horizon" show, lol). A gorgeous spring day driving down a country placed road with this song on the stereo was picturesque.
Chart wise, it's not so picturesque. "Country", after the somewhat promising start, has been absolutely buried with the onslaught of new singles that charted from March to May. Its lost 300k in audience over the past six weeks on MB, while just gaining 22 spins over that time. While the sales just have not been there, as its still not in the top 1500 on the all-genre chart. It would also help if there were a major station or two helping this song along but of the 9 stations who have spun "Country" more than 20 times over the past seven days, none are in the top 35 of ranked markets, with KRTY in San Jose being the closest at #36 (24 spins).
KKBQ in Houston (6th ranked market) did bump "Country" up to 19 spins this week, which have resulted in an audience impression of 420k.
Curb has proven they can stick with singles with the best of them (they hung on for well over 20 weeks to get American Young's "Love Is War" to a #42 MB peak in early 2014, and "Country's" at 15 weeks since it went for adds), but it's just too much to ask at this point for this to do much of anything right now. It reached #43 on MB a few weeks back but since then has gradually fallen down the 40's, to #49 on the MB rolling chart. There's a slight chance this can somehow reach the top 40 but I don't see that happening.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 16:13:27 GMT -5
They finally played this on The Highway this afternoon (though it was on their hour long "On The Horizon" show, lol). A gorgeous spring day driving down a country placed road with this song on the stereo was picturesque. Chart wise, it's not so picturesque. "Country", after the somewhat promising start, has been absolutely buried with the onslaught of new singles that charted from March to May. Its lost 300k in audience over the past six weeks on MB, while just gaining 22 spins over that time. While the sales just have not been there, as its still not in the top 1500 on the all-genre chart. It would also help if there were a major station or two helping this song along but of the 9 stations who have spun "Country" more than 20 times over the past seven days, none are in the top 35 of ranked markets, with KRTY in San Jose being the closest at #36 (24 spins). KKBQ in Houston (6th ranked market) did bump "Country" up to 19 spins this week, which have resulted in an audience impression of 420k. Curb has proven they can stick with singles with the best of them (they hung on for well over 20 weeks to get American Young's "Love Is War" to a #42 MB peak in early 2014, and "Country's" at 15 weeks since it went for adds), but it's just too much to ask at this point for this to do much of anything right now. It reached #43 on MB a few weeks back but since then has gradually fallen down the 40's, to #49 on the MB rolling chart. There's a slight chance this can somehow reach the top 40 but I don't see that happening. I think it's peaked myself it's only gonna get more buried. :'( Let's see new Hunter Hayes guarantee pass when Jake Owen debuts his new song he will probably pass The Band Perry will because I've got a good feeling they'll release a new song.
Probable Peaks MB #43 BB #45. Not bad but in wish this would do more.
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Post by sabre14 on May 23, 2015 16:29:48 GMT -5
They finally played this on The Highway this afternoon (though it was on their hour long "On The Horizon" show, lol). A gorgeous spring day driving down a country placed road with this song on the stereo was picturesque. Chart wise, it's not so picturesque. "Country", after the somewhat promising start, has been absolutely buried with the onslaught of new singles that charted from March to May. Its lost 300k in audience over the past six weeks on MB, while just gaining 22 spins over that time. While the sales just have not been there, as its still not in the top 1500 on the all-genre chart. It would also help if there were a major station or two helping this song along but of the 9 stations who have spun "Country" more than 20 times over the past seven days, none are in the top 35 of ranked markets, with KRTY in San Jose being the closest at #36 (24 spins). KKBQ in Houston (6th ranked market) did bump "Country" up to 19 spins this week, which have resulted in an audience impression of 420k. Curb has proven they can stick with singles with the best of them (they hung on for well over 20 weeks to get American Young's "Love Is War" to a #42 MB peak in early 2014, and "Country's" at 15 weeks since it went for adds), but it's just too much to ask at this point for this to do much of anything right now. It reached #43 on MB a few weeks back but since then has gradually fallen down the 40's, to #49 on the MB rolling chart. There's a slight chance this can somehow reach the top 40 but I don't see that happening. I think it's peaked myself it's only gonna get more buried. :'( Let's see new Hunter Hayes guarantee pass when Jake Owen debuts his new song he will probably pass The Band Perry will because I've got a good feeling they'll release a new song.
Probable Peaks MB #43 BB #45. Not bad but in wish this would do more. Not sure I quite needed to be quoted there since I never said this would get any higher, lol. Only the "slight chance", as crazier things have happened. I also don't see why you would bring up a song that won't go for adds 'til June 8th (Jake), and The Band Perry's upcoming lead single that doesn't have an add date yet (or title for that matter). I specifically mentioned MB numbers in my initial post, so Hunter's already ahead on the rolling chart, but of course he'll also pass Mo on the Billboard airplay chart which you eluded to. It doesn't really matter who will pass a song that's already struggling and nowhere near a chart achievement (top 40, top 30, etc.). The biggest concern to Curb and "Country" is... "Country", lol. Right now, everything but the kitchen sink has passed Mo's song and two songs that haven't even been released yet is the least of this song's problems. I think it's pretty obvious this won't get any higher.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 17:49:39 GMT -5
I think it's peaked myself it's only gonna get more buried. :'( Let's see new Hunter Hayes guarantee pass when Jake Owen debuts his new song he will probably pass The Band Perry will because I've got a good feeling they'll release a new song.
Probable Peaks MB #43 BB #45. Not bad but in wish this would do more. Not sure I quite needed to be quoted there since I never said this would get any higher, lol. Only the "slight chance", as crazier things have happened. I also don't see why you would bring up a song that won't go for adds 'til June 8th (Jake), and The Band Perry's upcoming lead single that doesn't have an add date yet (or title for that matter). I specifically mentioned MB numbers in my initial post, so Hunter's already ahead on the rolling chart, but of course he'll also pass Mo on the Billboard airplay chart which you eluded to. It doesn't really matter who will pass a song that's already struggling and nowhere near a chart achievement (top 40, top 30, etc.). The biggest concern to Curb and "Country" is... "Country", lol. Right now, everything but the kitchen sink has passed Mo's song and two songs that haven't even been released yet is the least of this song's problems. I think it's pretty obvious this won't get any higher. Sorry about that but I figured that since you were talking about the charts I'd give my 2 cents. Sorry :(.
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Post by sabre14 on May 23, 2015 18:46:28 GMT -5
Not sure I quite needed to be quoted there since I never said this would get any higher, lol. Only the "slight chance", as crazier things have happened. I also don't see why you would bring up a song that won't go for adds 'til June 8th (Jake), and The Band Perry's upcoming lead single that doesn't have an add date yet (or title for that matter). I specifically mentioned MB numbers in my initial post, so Hunter's already ahead on the rolling chart, but of course he'll also pass Mo on the Billboard airplay chart which you eluded to. It doesn't really matter who will pass a song that's already struggling and nowhere near a chart achievement (top 40, top 30, etc.). The biggest concern to Curb and "Country" is... "Country", lol. Right now, everything but the kitchen sink has passed Mo's song and two songs that haven't even been released yet is the least of this song's problems. I think it's pretty obvious this won't get any higher. Sorry about that but I figured that since you were talking about the charts I'd give my 2 cents. Sorry :(. No need to be sorry. Was just clarifying things for my own behalf. :)
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 23, 2015 20:03:52 GMT -5
Great music video. It was everything I could've wanted and expected out of the video for this song. Too bad that it's struggling so much though. What a shame, but not unsurprising given that it's a traditional tune being promoted by Curb.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 2, 2015 13:06:33 GMT -5
Video uploaded to YouTube: :)
I really like the video. The shots of Mo were done superbly as that's a crucial part of a debut video. The editing overall was stellar. Simple but not too simple.
Also, "Country" as gained 1.0 million in audience on MB over the past nine days. This after "Country" gained just over 50k in total audience the previous five weeks. It gained over 900k in audience on this past Billboard chart as well and reached #42 (#43 is the highest it has gotten on MB). Right now I'd say top 40 is the most "Country" could do since it's nearly 20 weeks old and is not selling well (not in the top 1500 of the all-genre chart) but at least this one is finally showing some life after being pretty lifeless from mid April to mid May.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 2, 2015 14:26:36 GMT -5
I wonder how high this has to get for Curb release the album. I know its Curb , so all bets are off, but I suspect this could sell a decent amount of discs even without a hit single. His appearances on Country Diner have generated alot of buzz that might not be so easy to gauge. The low single sales don't surprise me as I believe the core audience for Mo is an older demo that would much rather buy a full length album than a single. Glad to see it finally coming to life though.
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