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Post by Typo on Dec 14, 2014 10:13:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 10:23:37 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion, but i'm so glad they went with this over "Smokin and Drinkin". Still i have to wonder if radio will take to this considering the lackluster chart success of "Somethin Bad" and the fact that both songs are similar in that they are both loud, rocking tunes. I guess time will tell
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Post by carriekins on Dec 14, 2014 10:33:13 GMT -5
Ugh. This song is so obnoxious and gratuitously loud.
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Post by dajire4 on Dec 14, 2014 11:07:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like this at all. The Audra Mae original is way better
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 11:22:51 GMT -5
This one made me cringe the first time I heard it. But after I found myself humming the hook, it caught on. I think it's more suited to radio than Smokin and Drinkin (which maybe was never meant for radio anyway?)
Kind of glad they changed their mind (if that's what they did, anyway). This one has some spunk to it that I think Miranda is good at conveying, and it's a different more effective spunk than that of Somethin Bad.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 14, 2014 11:39:54 GMT -5
Ugh. This song is so obnoxious and gratuitously loud. Same. This ruined my day and it hasn't even started yet. I knew that they were considering another song when it was taking far too long to get an add date for Smokin' And Drinkin'" but I prayed that if they were, that it was anything but this one. I'm not opposed to some of Miranda's feistier songs (they seem to be hit or miss for me), but this one is a miss.
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.indulgecountry
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 14, 2014 11:58:50 GMT -5
This is one of my least-favorites on the album and I feel like it's going to be another polarizing choice for radio (as in, she'll probably continue to miss out on that #1 single this era), but I still like it so I do wish it well. I'm sure the video will be fun, so I'm looking forward to that. A little disappointed that they're not going with "Smokin' and Drinkin'" though, but at least it's not "Holding on to You."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 12:12:42 GMT -5
I'm definitely not expecting "Little Red Wagon" to be a hit. This has the same feel of "attitude" that I suspect caused radio to be lukewarm towards "Somethin' Bad" and so with this being a third single without any featured artist I'm expecting an even worse chart run than "Somethin' Bad." I personally think RCA passed on a great opportunity not releasing "Smokin' and Drinkin'" and they would've had more chart success with that than this. I could see this having a run similar to "All Kinds of Kinds."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 12:44:21 GMT -5
YES. Happy birthday to me. :)
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Post by someguy on Dec 14, 2014 12:52:32 GMT -5
I knew that they had to be strongly leaning towards another single when it was taking so long for "Smokin' And Drinkin'" to go for adds. They should have had it figured out in advance though. Arguably country's biggest female artist didn't have a single at radio from her new album during holiday shopping season. That's inexcusable.
As for the single choice, I like "Little Red Wagon" a lot as a song, but I think it's one of the worst choices they could have made for radio. I agree that it will likely once again miss out on #1, which is such a shame considering all of the radio friendly choices left on the album. I would have loved "Priscilla", but I also would have been really happy with "Two Rings Shy", "Another Sunday In The South", "Holding On To You", "Babies Making Babies", "Platinum" or "Hard Staying Sober". I love "Gravity Is A Bitch", but I think that a radio edit would have ruined it.
"Little Red Wagon" would have been very near the bottom of my choices for the next single.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Dec 14, 2014 13:12:53 GMT -5
Ugh. Not that I loved, or even liked "Smokin' and Drinkin", but it's far better than this. This is obnoxious, it's grating, and it's not even radio friendly. I wouldn't at all be shocked if this missed the top ten.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Dec 14, 2014 13:47:02 GMT -5
In the minority again, because, even conceding dajire4's point about how Audra Mae's original version is better, I like this song, I love its rockabilly style, I quite enjoy Miranda's performance of it, and I think it plays well into the "left-of-center crazy-cool chick" Miranda image that mainstream critics admire so much. As I see Platinum, the core of the album is about Miranda becoming a star in her own right...the confidence and the "swagger" that comes with her success, and of course all the insecurities, delivered with the frankness that is Miranda's calling card. "Little Red Wagon" is one of the "confidence" tracks -- it is Miranda unapologetically embracing her status and success, and therefore I see this as a track that will represent Platinum far better than its first two singles, and far better than "Smokin' & Drinkin'" would have. Is "Little Red Wagon" a little obnoxious? Sure, but in the way that "Only Prettier" and the album's title track are, and I think part of what drove Miranda's appeal and success early in her career (before "White Liar" and Revolution as a whole) was her willingness to be a little in-your-face at times. This is a song that she has showcased several times (at CMA Fest, and also at Fashion Rocks), and I think she performs it far better live than she ever performed "Mama's Broken Heart" or several of her other feistier tracks. The Tennessean singled out her live performance of "Little Red Wagon" at both CMA Fest and when Miranda opened for Jason Aldean at one of his stadium shows as standout moments. I expect Miranda to perform this at the Grammy Awards (I think the cover art reveal at Just Jared as well as the previous Fashion Rocks performance point to a desire to appeal to a crossover crowd with the song) and I expect the song to go over very, very well in that setting. I also think that the release of this song will work because it fits nicely into the tiresome but nonetheless prevalent mainstream media narrative on Miranda being newly confident in her newly svelte body. So even if "Little Red Wagon" isn't a #1 airplay hit (I'm not conceding that point -- I think that it could be, but I don't trust my hit instinct these days), I think it could be a pretty strong seller that reignites interest in Platinum. And I think it will easily fulfill the role of Miranda single nominated in the CMA Single Of The Year category, in no small part because it underscores Miranda's maverick reputation. All that said, that cover art doesn't come close to conveying why I think Miranda and "Little Red Wagon" are a good match.
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Post by slowmo on Dec 14, 2014 13:47:26 GMT -5
It went from my favorite song on the album as a possible single to my least liked song on the album as the single. I don't think either of them would get her another #1, I'd just prefer to hear Smokin' and Drinkin' much more than this song on the radio.
I do give the decision makers credit, they continue to release songs to radio that are slightly different from the norm that I don't think anyone but Miranda could get away with, even if they aren't going to be high charters.
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Post by josephmorgan on Dec 14, 2014 14:53:36 GMT -5
Speaking of radio edits, they'll have to censor the "s" word out of it.
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Post by Lizl on Dec 14, 2014 15:05:59 GMT -5
This is my jam!!!
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 14, 2014 15:19:45 GMT -5
Fine with this as a single choice, too! I prefer "Smokin' and Drinkin'" to this, but I still enjoy both. I get why people don't like this song; I just happen to love it.
I highly doubt this'll go #1, though.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 14, 2014 16:04:32 GMT -5
Makes me wonder if RCA can get a #1 out of the Platinum era. Remember, this is from your FIVE time C.M.A. Female Vocalist of the Year!
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Post by ant on Dec 14, 2014 20:11:06 GMT -5
I still think "Girls" should've been the 3rd single.
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Post by sapphire on Dec 14, 2014 20:56:06 GMT -5
I would've preferred Priscilla, Girls or even Platinum for next single, but I'm fine with this.
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 14, 2014 22:06:27 GMT -5
I think this is a good decision for 3rd single. "Smokin' And Drinkin'" is a better song, but I think this song is more likely to move the needle in terms of sales and buzz. I think this will sell strongly early on, and should go Platinum with no problems. Plus, once the video comes out they will have a good chance at a Hot Country Songs #1 again. At this point in her career, I'm not sure how concerned Miranda's team is with her getting radio success. This is the type of song that will be popular with her large fan base, and will remind everyone of songs like "Kerosene" and "Gun Powder & Lead".
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Post by tim on Dec 14, 2014 23:03:35 GMT -5
I'm mobile right now as my mac is in the shop so this'll be short...I don't like this. It's easily going to the top of my least favorite Miranda single to date, even more so because they ditched a great song in "Smokin' and Drinkin'" for this. For such a great album the choices in single selections have been anything but.
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Post by kml567 on Dec 14, 2014 23:23:42 GMT -5
Wow this really is obnoxious and loud.
I'm hoping this flops and ACM/CMA voters will finally wake up and start considering other females. Perhaps a certain female that will soon get another Billboard #1 in a few weeks?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 14, 2014 23:29:56 GMT -5
Wow this really is obnoxious and loud. I'm hoping this flops and ACM/CMA voters will finally wake up and start considering other females. Perhaps a certain female that will soon get another Billboard #1 in a few weeks? 1. The problem here is radio not playing enough females, which includes Miranda Lambert (who only actually has three BB #1s to her name), not the industry for rewarding her talents. 2. Carrie Underwood has won before. Sure, it'd be cool if she won again, but I'd rather see radio embrace Kacey Musgraves in a way that gets her the win instead, because it's time for someone new. And I fully think the music industry is just waiting for an opportunity to give Kacey a Female Vocalist trophy given how willing they've been to reward her albums/songs despite minimal radio airplay so far.
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Post by George Strait Junkie on Dec 15, 2014 7:37:47 GMT -5
the worst song miranda's ever recorded that i can remember and it gets to be a single that sucks
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Post by spencer on Dec 15, 2014 10:25:15 GMT -5
Wow this really is obnoxious and loud. I'm hoping this flops and ACM/CMA voters will finally wake up and start considering other females. Perhaps a certain female that will soon get another Billboard #1 in a few weeks? 1. The problem here is radio not playing enough females, which includes Miranda Lambert (who only actually has three BB #1s to her name), not the industry for rewarding her talents. 2. Carrie Underwood has won before. Sure, it'd be cool if she won again, but I'd rather see radio embrace Kacey Musgraves in a way that gets her the win instead, because it's time for someone new. And I fully think the music industry is just waiting for an opportunity to give Kacey a Female Vocalist trophy given how willing they've been to reward her albums/songs despite minimal radio airplay so far. It's always baffled me as to how winners are picked for country industry awards. It's pretty clear that the most successful sellers, hit makers, tours, broad appeal, and all around vocal and performing abilities, don't cut it for country's group(s) of voters. While there is real danger of subjective opinions in making these types of selections, there are actual numbers associated with the criteria used to guide the voters. However this data is either ignored and/or deemed irrelevant. Example, look at the last 2,3+ years' candidates for EOTY, just to name one category . The criteria for the different categories are pretty much ignored either in part or in value. So, I guess 'new' just for the sake of change, is just as good a reason as being the industry's personal pick, to win an award. Let the data regarding record sales, radio success, etc. be damned, the country song critics love you, whoever he/she/they is/are.
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Post by rsmatto on Dec 15, 2014 11:05:32 GMT -5
I skimmed through all of the posts and I'm surprised that nobody said anything about the reason "Smoking And Drinkin'" was "pulled." I've heard from and seen where many radio programmers are tired of songs that mention drinking in the title and this one has "Smoking" in the title too. It wouldn't past their muster. Also, add in that Little Big Town's "Girl Crush" is just getting started too and I can see where UMG Nashville might've balked at a 'competing' single. I have loved this song since the album was previewed. I think it's the perfect single for Miranda right now. But like 43dudleyvillas, I will not be guessing if it hits #1 or not but I think it's at least a Top 10 hit which sells at least Gold. (Also, I KNOW 'Ran and the label don't care which chart a song hits #1 on so if it 'only' gets Mediabase, they'll be fine [though #1 on both is always better])
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 15, 2014 12:41:53 GMT -5
It's always baffled me as to how winners are picked for country industry awards. It's pretty clear that the most successful sellers, hit makers, tours, broad appeal, and all around vocal and performing abilities, don't cut it for country's group(s) of voters. While there is real danger of subjective opinions in making these types of selections, there are actual numbers associated with the criteria used to guide the voters. However this data is either ignored and/or deemed irrelevant. Example, look at the last 2,3+ years' candidates for EOTY, just to name one category . The criteria for the different categories are pretty much ignored either in part or in value. So, I guess 'new' just for the sake of change, is just as good a reason as being the industry's personal pick, to win an award. Let the data regarding record sales, radio success, etc. be damned, the country song critics love you, whoever he/she/they is/are. If awards were based solely on some defined criteria that could be measured and definitively proven, then there'd be no point to awards at all. This is especially evident with the Grammys, which rewards artists for creating excellent music, regardless of whether they fit the mainstream mold to allow them airplay and thus the platform to be more popular/sell more records/singles. And at the end of the day, someone like FGL i.e. not winning a bunch of industry awards is moot since they reap plenty of rewards from their sales and radio play as it is without an additional trophy to say the same thing.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 15, 2014 12:59:10 GMT -5
I skimmed through all of the posts and I'm surprised that nobody said anything about the reason "Smoking And Drinkin'" was "pulled." I've heard from and seen where many radio programmers are tired of songs that mention drinking in the title and this one has "Smoking" in the title too. It wouldn't past their muster. Also, add in that Little Big Town's "Girl Crush" is just getting started too and I can see where UMG Nashville might've balked at a 'competing' single. It's really interesting to me that Capitol would be skeptical at "competing" singles when I'm sure they were let in on the original plans when "Smokin' And Drinkin'" was first decided on for the third single - so far in the process to have them use a slot at the CMA's to perform it. It's clear that someone changed their minds somewhere along the way. Now, radio balking at the idea of another drinkin' song seems odd since they are still being released left, right and center right now - with some having good success ("Drinking Class", "Ain't Worth The Whiskey"). It all seems logical yes, but I can't help but feel that all this worry was a little unnecessary. Even though I don't like this song, I can see why it was chosen in place of "Smokin' and "Drinkin'". I think RCA wants another big seller with a single and this song might be polarizing enough to generate buzz for Miranda which dm2081 first pointed out. It's still a risk though and a peak in the teens is very possible. But RCA clearly doesn't mind the gamble here with this following "Somethin' Bad".
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Dec 15, 2014 13:35:39 GMT -5
Man, I detest this song. It's just so annoying. I can't think of a single song I have disliked more from Miranda.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 15, 2014 14:19:02 GMT -5
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