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Post by echocountry on Dec 21, 2014 17:07:15 GMT -5
Reba looks freakin fantastic for almost 60! But based on the way the charts take forever, I wouldn't expect the album until summer at the earliest..?? Look how they play Sara Evans songs to death until they reach a peak and then the span between singles 1 and 2 is one year!!
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Post by McCreerian on Dec 21, 2014 17:18:53 GMT -5
Reba looks freakin fantastic for almost 60! But based on the way the charts take forever, I wouldn't expect the album until summer at the earliest..?? Look how they play Sara Evans songs to death until they reach a peak and then the span between singles 1 and 2 is one year!! Reba has already said officially the single in Jan and album in April.
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Post by echocountry on Dec 21, 2014 17:22:12 GMT -5
Oh good - that's the average span of a single to album, or the way it used to be!!! :)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 17:47:42 GMT -5
Reba looks freakin fantastic for almost 60! But based on the way the charts take forever, I wouldn't expect the album until summer at the earliest..?? Look how they play Sara Evans songs to death until they reach a peak and then the span between singles 1 and 2 is one year!! I expect Reba's album to come out in April whether this song "hits" or not. She's a big enough name that she'll sell a decent amount of albums even if the new single isn't that big of a hit. However, I'm not sure that we should expect this song to get airplay on most country stations. She did sign to Nash Icons, after all, and thus I'm expecting that she'll get block added on the Cumulus Nash Icons stations (and maybe on the "regular" Cumulus stations as well), but I'm not convinced that this single will receive much airplay beyond Cumulus, other than maybe a handful of adds and some curiosity spins. If it researches really well and begins to show that it could potentially do well all across the board, then I could see Clear Channel and everybody else (all the non-Nash Icon stations) jumping on board as well...but right now I'm just not convinced.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 21, 2014 18:54:11 GMT -5
Reba looks freakin fantastic for almost 60! But based on the way the charts take forever, I wouldn't expect the album until summer at the earliest..?? Look how they play Sara Evans songs to death until they reach a peak and then the span between singles 1 and 2 is one year!! I expect Reba's album to come out in April whether this song "hits" or not. She's a big enough name that she'll sell a decent amount of albums even if the new single isn't that big of a hit. However, I'm not sure that we should expect this song to get airplay on most country stations. She did sign to Nash Icons, after all, and thus I'm expecting that she'll get block added on the Cumulus Nash Icons stations (and maybe on the "regular" Cumulus stations as well), but I'm not convinced that this single will receive much airplay beyond Cumulus, other than maybe a handful of adds and some curiosity spins. If it researches really well and begins to show that it could potentially do well all across the board, then I could see Clear Channel and everybody else (all the non-Nash Icon stations) jumping on board as well...but right now I'm just not convinced. I agree. I really can't see many stations that aren't affiliated with Cumulus treating this like a lead single from a star artist. Reba's last charting entries flamed out ("When Love Gets A Hold Of You", "Somebody's Chelsea") and those were about three years ago. Nash Icons was created to allow artists like Reba to make new music and be played on the Nash branded stations. I definitely could see this gain some traction with initial buzz of new music but in the end I don't see this taking off. I know that's an unpopular opinion but I just can't envision Reba returning to her old form at country radio. Perhaps she can eclipse the top 30 but even that could be optimistic.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 21, 2014 19:06:05 GMT -5
I still feel like it's hard to guess how new music will do from Reba on country radio today. Yes, her last two singles flopped, but I still feel the failure of "When Love Gets a Hold of You" and "Sombody's Chelsea" can also be at least partially attributed to the mistake of releasing "If I Were a Boy" to radio. When that one stalled outside the Top 20, so did her momentum from that album era. She didn't follow that up with a new single/album campaign in a timely fashion so it's unknown whether her next lead single would've turned things around, but I believe it would've done pretty well -- maybe not another #1 hit, but at least better than the three singles that preceded it. We'll have to see how this goes, because with her label situation and doing the Vegas stint and all that, it's possible that getting her another mainstream hit isn't in the cards for Reba's team at all, but I do believe there's some potential for it to happen if they go for it.
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Post by sbp17 on Dec 22, 2014 10:53:30 GMT -5
jhomes87 and sabre14, I will stand for nothing short of positive thinking from you on Reba's chart prospects. Glass half full, please!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 21:21:15 GMT -5
I feel I must rant here. I know they have holidays and whatnot that have probably caused delays and problems, but what has her team done for this song? Her web presence has, honestly, been incredibly terrible recently. They only ever updated her Facebook pictures, seemingly forgetting her own website and her Twitter. That may not bother casual fans but, as someone studying to be involved in public relations and the entertainment industry somehow, I find that absolutely appalling. It is critically important to promote an imminent release, even just through social media graphics.
Her age and gender are already factors playing against her, and her team should have been doing absolutely everything possible to promote this song. I know they can always promote the song following its release, but why wait? I just feel that, considering the impressive rollout constructed for something as forgettable as "Pray For Peace," surely they should have done more for her actual comeback single. I love this song and recognize its hit potential, I just wish her team did more leading up to its release next week, creating hype and buzz and launching her comeback.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 1, 2015 23:33:30 GMT -5
I understand frustrations when it comes to promotion (you never seem to get enough of it, lol), but I still believe that even if there was more in the way of promotion and word of mouth through social media, it wouldn't matter all that much in terms of this song blowing up at country radio. If it should find its way in doing so, it wouldn't be because of an avalanche of media promotion. Reba is her own brand. Radio knows she has a new single coming - believe me. The problem is that it's been the holidays these past days and people are taking the pedal off the metal when it comes to promotion. Not to say that there "isn't" any promotion and stuff being done behind the scenes, but this time of year is when you see the least. I actually don't think there's much competition for Reba's song. All you have that week is Downday and Austin Webb's latest single. Then you have Frankie and Mickey the week after. So I really believe that there is enough going on to let radio know about "Going Out Like That". I still think that since Reba is a Nash Icon artist now, that her getting top 10's at radio are all but over. I know that's very unpopular as sbp17 made mention of but I need to see this take off before I'm convinced. I'm not what matters though - it's country radio, and the small chance that they do give this one a fair shake and treat it like a superstars comeback single. I just feel that's what Nash Icons was created for - to let legends of days gone by make new music to be mostly played along Nash Icon branded stations. We still have a ways to go here so I don't feel there's major reason to worry yet. :)
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Post by sbp17 on Jan 2, 2015 22:42:31 GMT -5
sabre14, promotion is more than trying to get programmers familiar with a song, particularly the type of promotion referenced by @dawson. It is to make listeners aware that your music is out there. Those listeners then might request the music which would could encourage radio spins or better yet, the listeners might buy your music (the ultimate goal) which could also influence programmers to give your music a spin. I'm sure "Radio" knows she has a new single coming but they likely know that for any artist on a major label but those labels still promote music. Reba is, indeed, her own brand but that's no longer a brand that automatically results in sales or airplay. Carrie, Miranda, Luke, FGL....they still need and receive promotion despite being the biggest names in the genre. No one disagrees that the odds are against Reba in scoring top ten hits. However, I feel that given her built-in brand as you referenced, she'll at least still have a shot with a viable record (which I believe is the case with Going Out Like That), decent promotion (of which seems very limited ATM), and a Radio environment that would be a little more relaxed with its limited playlists (now that's the long shot).
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 2, 2015 23:25:04 GMT -5
I really feel that it would have to be a listener reaction of mega sized proportions to make radio decide to take so much notice of "Going Out Like That" to make it be a most added single its first few weeks out of the gate - that's the most important part of this single release. It's crucial for Reba's promotion department to get this song a strong start out of the gate. Take a look (and I know I bring this example up often) at Canaan Smith's single right now - it's had unreal sales for its chart position and has had strong listener feedback, so much so on Satellite radio that it has been consistently among the top 3-5 requested songs on The Highway every week. Plus he's on a major label with a full blown radio tour (2 of them in fact) with no real payoff for his song, so Reba still has an uphill battle when it comes to radio playing this song in medium to heavy rotation, regardless of people requesting it.
Also, the sales aspect I would assume will be very good since it is Reba, so that part I had already taken into consideration. "I Got A Car" sold pretty well and listeners wanted George's song to be played but it still resulted in a +40 week chart run into the top 20 that was without a doubt was aided by his farewell tour. Sales help. Listener reaction help. Name recognition help. But I really believe that radio has moved on from Reba for the most part. I'm not saying this will crash and burn; it will most likely make at least the top 40 just because it is brand new music from arguably the greatest female artist in the genre's history. All I want to do is ease people's minds that Reba's camp isn't doing everything in their power to get this single release noticed.
Now, we still have not seen a Nash Icon promoted singe yet, so everything is just my best educated guess as to what will ultimately happen with this songs chart run. I like to think I've seen enough chart runs from elder like artists and paid enough attention to radio's recent track record to predict that it might be asking too much to expect or even just strongly think that a top 10 run is inevitable.
Again, I'm just one person with one opinion. What matters is what "will" ultimately happen with "Going Out Like That".
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 3, 2015 1:55:02 GMT -5
They'll have massive promotion of this starting right around it's release to radio. This song will do alright but I'm with sabre14, this one's hit potential rests solely on whether other stations outside of Cumulus pick up on it. It likely will be a Top 20 at best, IMO.
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Post by drock89 on Jan 3, 2015 17:32:20 GMT -5
I think it definitely has the lyrics and production to be a big hit... if radio can get past her age. I think it's a fantastic song, and the few others I have heard are great, too. I'm hoping that Reba and her A&R folks have finally decided to make music they like and to hell with radio. Commercial success will come based off her enormous and incredibly loyal fan base. Be happy with the music you're singing; the rest will take care of itself.
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Post by Anticonformity on Jan 4, 2015 3:37:25 GMT -5
I will NEVER understand how some1s AGE (race,orientation, gender, etc) should come against their music?
If they are an egotistical dick, then sure...
Reba is going to be 60 and i give 0 f#### that I'm half her age and am excited... like idgi...
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Post by surfy on Jan 4, 2015 3:52:50 GMT -5
I will NEVER understand how some1s AGE (race,orientation, gender, etc) should come against their music? If they are an egotistical dick, then sure... Reba is going to be 60 and i give 0 f#### that I'm half her age and am excited... like idgi... That's how the media has always been and it's just getting worse... sadly. Anyways, I'M SO EXCITED! NEW REBA IN 2 DAYS!!!!!!! AAAHHH!
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 4, 2015 16:05:03 GMT -5
I will NEVER understand how some1s AGE (race,orientation, gender, etc) should come against their music? If they are an egotistical dick, then sure... Reba is going to be 60 and i give 0 f#### that I'm half her age and am excited... like idgi... Its just part of the judgmental, prejudice place we call Planet Earth. It sucks. But at least most of us are free to listen to who we want no matter what TPTB try to dictate. 90% of the artists I listen to aren't even on the current charts. Some never have been and some were a long time ago. I can't wait to hear this Reba song! She is my all time Idol (tied with Dolly) since I was a little kid.
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Post by StrongerThanTheTruth on Jan 5, 2015 21:18:11 GMT -5
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The promo for this single showed the Nash Icon Records logo and the Valory logo. It didn't include the Starstruck logo.
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Post by someguy on Jan 5, 2015 21:27:04 GMT -5
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how this does. The hourly airplay (though I really don't like the tactic) at least shows me that the label is really invested in pushing the single, so I'm optimistic that it will be able to become a hit.
I think part of my optimism comes from just how many times Reba has been written off at radio, and how many times she has managed to make a comeback. I remember the article in 2002 (after "Sweet Music Man" stalled in the 30s) comparing Reba's radio prospects to that of Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton and then, a year and a half later "I'm Gonna Take That Mountain" reached the top 15, followed by "Somebody" going #1. Then, a little while later, "You're Gonna Be" peaked in the 30s, and "Love Needs A Holiday" barely scraped the charts. She was done again in some opinions, and then "Because Of You" hit #2 and Reba Duets opened at #1 on the Billboard Top 200.
After that, "The Only Promise That Remains" missed the chart altogether, and she was done again. A couple years later, "Strange" became a hit and "Consider Me Gone" became, statistically speaking, the biggest hit of her career. That was quickly followed by "Turn On The Radio", another #1. Following that, "When Love Gets A Hold Of You" and "Somebody's Chelsea" peaked in the 40s, and she appears to be done yet again.
Fast forward to now - the eve of her next lead single's release. I know that ones of these times, she really will be done for good at radio, and the arguments for it being now are convincing, I must admit. But somehow, until I actually see an album of hers fail to produce any hits, I still have a lot of hope that she isn't done yet, and she will make yet another comeback. Time will tell though :)
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Post by someguy on Jan 5, 2015 23:08:58 GMT -5
I just bought it on iTunes!
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Post by surfy on Jan 5, 2015 23:12:45 GMT -5
I'm about to listen to it! So excited!!! <3
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 5, 2015 23:15:10 GMT -5
Oh this is SO GOOD! Come on radio PLEASE send this top the top 10! My hero, Reba is back!!!!
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Post by surfy on Jan 5, 2015 23:21:27 GMT -5
OMG I LOVE THIS SONG!!! REBA HAS DONE IT AGAIN!!!
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 5, 2015 23:23:09 GMT -5
This is Reba's best lead single in decades, literally! It beats "Turn on the Radio" "Strange" and "I'm Gonna Take That Mountain" by a mile! This is her best lead single since "The Fear of Being Alone" in 1996!
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Post by someguy on Jan 5, 2015 23:25:22 GMT -5
This is Reba's best lead single in decades, literally! It beats "Turn on the Radio" "Strange" and "I'm Gonna Take That Mountain" by a mile! This is her best lead single since "The Fear of Being Alone" in 1996! I actually completely agree with this. This is her best lead single since "The Fear Of Being Alone"...she has certainly done her part in creating a big hit, now it's up to radio and the fans.
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Post by matty005 on Jan 5, 2015 23:38:32 GMT -5
I said this when I listened to it last month, but if this doesn't get her back on radio, NOTHING will. This is a perfect Reba song. I really hope she makes another great video like she has done for so many of her videos.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 23:42:18 GMT -5
I feel I must rant here. I know they have holidays and whatnot that have probably caused delays and problems, but what has her team done for this song? Her web presence has, honestly, been incredibly terrible recently. They only ever updated her Facebook pictures, seemingly forgetting her own website and her Twitter. I stand by this complaint, because I think consistent graphics and promotion displayed across various platforms earlier in the process would have benefitted the release, but they apparently have plans to launch her website later today. I assume their plans also involve updating her social media profiles. The full-page advertisements in both Country Aircheck Weekly and Billboard Country Update were extremely promising, and they seem to have the radio launch properly planned. Not to take away from this song and its release, but Reba has been recording more recently and reportedly cut "Promise Me Love." The song was written by Nikki Shannon Fernandez, Susan Ruth, and Jason T. Miller, and the cut was confirmed by the songwriters on Instagram. I know none of their work, but the title sounds interesting. That brings the number of confirmed tracks for the album up to four: the single, "Promise Me Love," "Enough," and "Love Somebody." Is it April yet?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 23:53:03 GMT -5
I haven't heard this yet, can someone post the audio?
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Post by 14887fan on Jan 5, 2015 23:57:01 GMT -5
Sonically, it sounds good, but a lot like everything else that's out there today (and runs along the same lines that "Turn On the Radio" does). Vocally, she sounds great. Lyrically, the song is so lame. She's done so much better. Reba's one of the best storytellers ever. I know she's really bargaining for a hit, but at this point, I wish she'd just release singles with quality lyrics and let the music speak for itself, rather than the trend of what's on radio. She's got nothing to lose by putting her best foot forward and seeing what radio ends up grabbing. Here's hoping the album as a whole is better than what this song offers.
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