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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 23:20:04 GMT -5
Has there been any news about a music video? It just seems weird because this is gonna be #1 soon and they've released music videos for every one of their singles. I haven't heard anything about one. It's a real shame that this hasn't gotten one, too. If it had, it would have probably been an even bigger streamer/seller than it has been.
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Post by trebor on Mar 27, 2015 13:11:35 GMT -5
Grabs the #1 spot @ RadioWave Monitor/CMG© The whole Top 5 is sitting together very closely (ZBB/Chris Young/Darius Rucker/Cole Swindell/Sam Hunt) and the difference between #1 and #5 is a mere 755K impressions.
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Post by joey2002 on Mar 27, 2015 18:06:07 GMT -5
Up to #3 in just 10 weeks, and without the "Homegrown Honey" shenanigans, this would definitely be #1 in its 11th week.
Really impressive how this has simply flown up the charts, and I'm still loving it. Such a pure and simple feel-good song.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 12:07:22 GMT -5
Country No.1 Zac Brown Band Homegrown +29059 Jason Aldean Tonight Looks Good On You
Still tracking at #1. Darius has secured the Mediabase #1, but it looks like ZBB will get the Billboard #1. Darius' only chance is if Capitol keeps the big push for "Homegrown Honey" going through today which could give him a chance to snatch the #1 away, but I'm personally expecting ZBB to easily out-gain Darius in tomorrow's update (I wouldn't even be surprised to see a loss for Darius).
Sam Hunt had a huge update this morning, but I still think ZBB can get 2 weeks at #1 on Billboard. If not, it could be a situation like "American Kids", where ZBB only gets 1 week at #1 on both charts, but it's a different week for each. Meaning, maybe ZBB can get to #1 on Mediabase a week from today, but then we'll see Sam Hunt get to #1 on Billboard on Monday the 6th?
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 29, 2015 12:31:24 GMT -5
Country No.1 Zac Brown Band Homegrown +29059 Jason Aldean Tonight Looks Good On You Still tracking at #1. Darius has secured the Mediabase #1, but it looks like ZBB will get the Billboard #1. Darius' only chance is if Capitol keeps the big push for "Homegrown Honey" going through today which could give him a chance to snatch the #1 away, but I'm personally expecting ZBB to easily out-gain Darius in tomorrow's update (I wouldn't even be surprised to see a loss for Darius). Sam Hunt had a huge update this morning, but I still think ZBB can get 2 weeks at #1 on Billboard. If not, it could be a situation like "American Kids", where ZBB only gets 1 week at #1 on both charts, but it's a different week for each. Meaning, maybe ZBB can get to #1 on Mediabase a week from today, but then we'll see Sam Hunt get to #1 on Billboard on Monday the 6th? I expect ZBB to be #1 on Billboard too but I'm not as confident as you are. I could easily see Capitol going full throttle through tonight for the Billboard #1, but at the same time, the heat of being satisfied with the MB chart (which labels do count, whether some here disregard or not) may make them concede and be happy, which Zazie made mention too. I don't think it's impossible to snatch the Billboard #1 away from ZBB if I was Capitol and if they wanted to throw everything but the kitchen sink today to try, they could. The reason I still think ZBB will still get it, is that I believe they will also have a nice update tomorrow and Darius' update needs to at least rival his biggest update the past two weeks, which is still a tall task. I think that either Darius has a good update (Capitol attempts it) or he decreases in audience (which would spell that Capitol didn't go for it) - there's little in between IMO. I give ZBB an 80% shot tomorrow, but there's a little voice of pessimism in my head that's telling me to not crack that cork yet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 17:31:26 GMT -5
I expect ZBB to be #1 on Billboard too but I'm not as confident as you are. I could easily see Capitol going full throttle through tonight for the Billboard #1, but at the same time, the heat of being satisfied with the MB chart (which labels do count, whether some here disregard or not) may make them concede and be happy, which Zazie made mention too. I don't think it's impossible to snatch the Billboard #1 away from ZBB if I was Capitol and if they wanted to throw everything but the kitchen sink today to try, they could. The reason I still think ZBB will still get it, is that I believe they will also have a nice update tomorrow and Darius' update needs to at least rival his biggest update the past two weeks, which is still a tall task. I think that either Darius has a good update (Capitol attempts it) or he decreases in audience (which would spell that Capitol didn't go for it) - there's little in between IMO. I give ZBB am 80% shot tomorrow, but there's a little voice of pessimism in my head that's telling me to not crack that cork yet. It's certainly not set in stone, but I'm pretty confident about ZBB getting to #1 on Billboard tomorrow...I give them at least an 80% chance, although I'd even be comfortable going with 90% (see numbers below as to why I'm so confident). Looking at just yesterday's update, we saw Darius out-gain ZBB 706k to 280k, and yet ZBB took over #1 on the RTT anyway. Darius had been tracking #1 briefly before that, but when ZBB took over despite getting easily out-gained in yesterday's MB update, I took that as a pretty clear signal that Capitol was focusing their efforts on manipulating the Mediabase points system (and that they don't really care about the Billboard result). Meanwhile Chris Young is co-hosting Lon Helton's countdown today, lol. Apparently they taped the show in Hawaii (note: I'm not saying Chris is in the race here. He has less than a 1% chance of getting to #1). Today Darius and ZBB were virtually even on Mediabase: +83 spins, +452k for Darius, and +86 spins, +457k for ZBB.
I'm in the process of finalizing my Billboard projections and here's what numbers I used: ZBB - Monday Billboard audience = 40.893 Darius - Monday Billboard audience = 39.169 ZBB - Monday Mediabase audience = 51.810 ** Darius - Monday Mediabase audience = 50.510 ** ** these are MB numbers with all Westwood One airplay factored out. I do this so I can get a more accurate ratio of MB to BB audience. In this case, the ratios for both Homegrowns are in the 0.78 to 0.79 range. Then, looking at the last 6 days of MB numbers (and again, factoring out all Westwood One gains/losses), ZBB is up 2.459 million, and Darius is up 4.246 million. I then took each of those numbers and divided it by 6 (to find the average daily gain) and then multiplied it by 7 (to account for Sunday's gain). The next step is to apply the ratios to the projected 7-day Monday thru Sunday MB gain (I went with a ratio of 0.785 for both of them), and then add the result to last week's Billboard number. Here's what that comes up with: 1) Zac Brown Band – “Homegrown” (43.160 million) 2) Darius Rucker – “Homegrown Honey” (42.420 low end, 42.730 high end) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) Chris Young – “Lonely Eyes” (42.410) 4) Sam Hunt – “Take Your Time” (41.530) 5) Lee Brice – “Drinking Class” (37.450) I went with a low end and a high end projection for Darius...the low end is assuming "Homegrown Honey" is flat or even posts a small decrease in tomorrow's update, and the high end is if his Monday morning MB update is similar to what he gained today (450k). Even the high end projection is quite a bit below where ZBB is projecting to. Thus, I think I would need to see Darius out-gain ZBB by at least 500-600k on tomorrow morning's MB update for me to have some doubts about ZBB getting to #1 on tomorrow's Billboard chart. So if Zac were to only gain 300k but Darius pulled in 800k, then it might be a whole new ballgame. But I don't think that's going to happen, and in fact, there's a pretty decent chance that Darius might not actually get past Chris Young, which would mean a #3 Billboard peak for "Homegrown Honey" despite a #1 Mediabase peak.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 29, 2015 17:45:45 GMT -5
Nice work jhomes87. Proving why you're the Billboard numbers master. :) I agree with you about Darius needing to out gain ZBB by at least 500k tomorrow in order to have a decent shot at overtaking them. Which means Capitol would really had to have had quite the busy Sunday to pull it off. Like I said, either "Homegrown Honey" posts one more impressive day (which is a feat, even for a label like Capitol since the numbers are so astronomical right now), or it posts a loss in audience (showing a white flag). Darius was just too far behind in Billboard audience last Monday to get it done, if they do fall short, which I'm predicting as well...just with some caution, lol.
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Post by someguy on Mar 29, 2015 22:54:23 GMT -5
I'm very hopeful that the ZBB will be #1 tomorrow. I agree that it's not a done deal, but I do think it's pretty likely. Then, I guess the question is, will they push for another week or not. I'd like to see them get a second week, but Sam Hunt is coming on strong.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 29, 2015 23:05:39 GMT -5
I'm very hopeful that the ZBB will be #1 tomorrow. I agree that it's not a done deal, but I do think it's pretty likely. Then, I guess the question is, will they push for another week or not. I'd like to see them get a second week, but Sam Hunt is coming on strong. I'm with jhomes87; I think ZBB can get two weeks on Billboard (assuming their #1 tomorrow). It's just been such a big hit for them and it's only 11 weeks old. The "American Kids" #1 situation could happen too I suppose, but that's pretty rare. Personally I wish ZBB could get two or three weeks on top, then Sam takes over for another two or three weeks, at least - that's the way it probably would have worked out 10 years ago or so. Darius wouldn't have even gotten to the top 3 in that scenario either. Unfortunately, it's 2015 - not 2005.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 30, 2015 18:18:20 GMT -5
Zac Brown Band were able to hold off the insane push from Darius Rucker to claim the #1 on Billboard, as many of us expected. As a huge fan of ZBB, I couldn't be happier to see the reception radio has given them for this new lead single. I really hope they can keep this momentum going throughout this album cycle, because these guys are easily the most talented act in Country music (which means one of the most talented acts in any genre IMO). I think they'll wait to announce a second single for a bit, but I'm curious if we will get an island-flavored tune that they've been known to release each album (Toes, Knee Deep, and Jump Right In). The timing would be perfect since their second single should peak sometime in July-August (if I had to guess).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 20:26:06 GMT -5
Wow, it was a lot closer on Billboard than I expected. ZBB finished #1 with 42.270 million (about 900k less than what I was thinking they'd have), and Darius came in at #2 with 42.110 million.
Two things here, that I find very curious: the "swing" between ZBB and Darius on Mediabase this morning was over 800k (+514k for ZBB, -303k for Darius). But since ZBB barely edged Darius for the Billboard #1 (margin was only 160k), how in the heck was the ZBB ever #1 on the RTT at the end of the day Saturday? Their margin of victory was so small, and when you couple that with the Sunday Mediabase results (today's update)...it just doesn't add up to me. It seems to me that it would have made more sense for Darius to be tracking at #1 on BB until being overcome by ZBB on the last day of the BB week.
But since I don't believe the RTT is or was wrong, then I'm left to assume that Darius' team was focusing on some Mediabase-only stations over the weekend, which might help to explain a bit why today's MB result didn't seem to translate over to Billboard. Either way, I'm still really confused.
The 2nd thing: it really wouldn't have been that difficult for Capitol to get the Billboard #1 after all. They came up just a few spins short. Obviously they pulled the plug at midnight Saturday, but really, given how close they finished behind ZBB on Billboard, I find it hard to believe that they didn't try to secure another 10-20 spins for "Homegrown Honey" on Sunday, as that was probably all they would have needed to sneak ahead of the ZBB.
I know a #1 on either chart is a #1 to all in the industry, but I'm just perplexed by this situation, because it doesn't seem like it would have taken hardly any extra effort for Capitol to get Darius the Billboard #1 in addition to the Mediabase #1. Like, literally, they barely would have had to do anything on Sunday aside from getting maybe 10-20 extra spins than what they did get. That would have most likely contributed more than 160k in audience, which is how much ZBB "won" by.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 30, 2015 20:40:21 GMT -5
^ Wow, I see that too. I've been saying the past week that Capitol reaching #1 on Billboard was very obtainable but even I didn't foresee that close call. If Capitol Nashville had decided to get those extra spins on Sunday, they would have just given everyone a blueprint on how to do a massive #1 push on both charts. This also shows how labels are perfectly fine with their song reaching #1 on MB only. Personally, even though I follow MB closer than most here, I would have gone for that Billboard #1 too - without a doubt. It's just a puzzler why Capitol just didn't go for it all in this situation. They played this hand darn near flawless and pulled the plug at the last moment. Not that I'm complaining, lol. What's even worse than "Homegrown Honey" being #1 on one chart, is for it to be #1 on two charts.
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Post by someguy on Mar 30, 2015 20:53:29 GMT -5
I was really surprised to see how close it was, too. I don't get Capitol's strategy either, but whatever the reason, I'll take it. I'm glad that I don't have to consider "Homegrown Honey" a #1 now . Apparently Chris Young will be getting a #1 push this week ( ), so it will be interesting to see what happens here. I would guess that the ZBB will get a second week at #1 fairly easily, and Chris will fight it out with Sam Hunt for #2, but I guess we'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 21:25:25 GMT -5
I was under the impression the "Real Time Tracker" only picked up a feed once a day of all the most played and most added songs so far during the BDS tracking week, and didn't still have by-the-second tracking of #1 songs since I can't recall the last time I've seen the tracker change anytime except first thing in the morning. So if ZBB was #1 on Saturday morning, it's possible Darius/Capitol overtook the #1 spot Saturday evening but decided to pull the plug Saturday night anyway, which would explain why ZBB barely edged out Darius for the #1. But I don't see why a label as powerful and competitive as Capitol would have walked away from a Billboard #1 if it was within their grasp, so the other possibility is that on Sunday Capitol shifted focus to the Billboard-only stations or specifically stopped working the Mediabase-only stations (explaining the loss for Darius in this morning's Mediabase update), but still barely missed #1 on Billboard.
Regarding "Homegrown," I'm still expecting this to bullet below #1 on both charts next week, as I think MCA will be giving Sam Hunt's "Take Your Time" a monster #1 push this week and Sam Hunt needs to gain just a little more Billboard audience and a few more Mediabase points on ZBB than he did this week in order to snag both #1's. (If the two songs gain at the same rates this week as they did last week, ZBB will end up with 28331 Mediaase points and 43.647 Billboard AI's and Sam Hunt will end up with 28207 Mediabase points and 43.112 Billboard AI's. I can easily see "Homegrown" gaining just a bit less since it's already at #1 and "Take Your Time" gaining just a bit more with a stronger push from MCA Nashville.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 22:14:33 GMT -5
I was under the impression the "Real Time Tracker" was now just a daily #1 tracker, as in the tracker picked up a feed once a day of all the most played and most added songs, and didn't still have by-the-second tracking of #1 songs since I can't recall the last time I've seen the tracker change anytime except first thing in the morning. I don't think this is right. You are right that the tracker only updates once a day, but I'm pretty sure that it shows who's tracking to be #1 for the week, since Billboard publishes a weekly (and not daily) chart. It's a building airplay gainer, as far as I understand it. Years ago it used to change throughout the day, but then the R&R site got shut down (you'll notice that the RTT is the only active part of the site), and now the RTT only updates once a day. But the way I understand it is that, like Billboard, it goes by "building" numbers and not by daily or rolling numbers. So if song A were to get 7 million impressions on Monday and song B got 6 million, but then song A only got 6 million on Tuesday while song B got 6.5 million, the RTT would still show (late Tuesday night/early Wednesday morning) song A as tracking at #1, because its 2-day audience sum of 13 million is higher than song B's 2-day sum of 12.5 million. But maybe I've been reading it wrong all these years. Maybe somebody can correct me, or at least explain it better than I can. Where's Zazie when you need him?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 22:19:58 GMT -5
^Oh, I didn't mean that the tracker only shows rolling or daily #1 songs. I definitely agree it's based on building airplay, but since the tracker is only updated once a day, wouldn't that mean that if Darius' song surpassed ZBB's in building airplay during the course of Saturday, but was pulled Saturday evening, ZBB's song could return to #1 in building airplay by the time the tracker picked up a new feed on Sunday morning provided it was a really close race?
ETA: I see what was confusing about my last post. When I referred to the tracker as a daily #1 tracker, I meant "daily" as opposed to "real time," as in, it shows who is currently #1 that day but not necessarily that second. I didn't mean "daily" as opposed to "building," as in it shows who was #1 over the course of one day rather than over the whole week. Sorry about the confusion, I'll clear up my wording a bit.
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Post by Zazie on Mar 30, 2015 22:33:45 GMT -5
I was under the impression the "Real Time Tracker" was now just a daily #1 tracker, as in the tracker picked up a feed once a day of all the most played and most added songs, and didn't still have by-the-second tracking of #1 songs since I can't recall the last time I've seen the tracker change anytime except first thing in the morning. I don't think this is right. You are right that the tracker only updates once a day, but I'm pretty sure that it shows who's tracking to be #1 for the week, since Billboard publishes a weekly (and not daily) chart. It's a building airplay gainer, as far as I understand it. Years ago it used to change throughout the day, but then the R&R site got shut down (you'll notice that the RTT is the only active part of the site), and now the RTT only updates once a day. But the way I understand it is that, like Billboard, it goes by "building" numbers and not by daily or rolling numbers. So if song A were to get 7 million impressions on Monday and song B got 6 million, but then song A only got 6 million on Tuesday while song B got 6.5 million, the RTT would still show (late Tuesday night/early Wednesday morning) song A as tracking at #1, because its 2-day audience sum of 13 million is higher than song B's 2-day sum of 12.5 million. But maybe I've been reading it wrong all these years. Maybe somebody can correct me, or at least explain it better than I can. Where's Zazie when you need him? I'm here, but I'm not needed. Everybody is in agreement and the less-useful but still good RTT has been correctly defined by everybody. At least Darius managed to lose just enough to finish in second place. Do we suppose that, in addition to charts being rigged by massive late-night airplay, we are also seeing "promises" being made? They would take the form of, "Don't worry, we'll lose to you on BB by getting our spins reduced, as long as you let us have the MB position the day before." Yikes, that would be worse than just the extra spins. I don't know that that's happening, but Darius had the double #1 in the palm of his hand, and had proved the ability to add enough spins -- but now we see he loses -- arranges to lose? -- by 160k by losing half a mill on the final day. Amazing stuff. Why anybody follows these charts is beyond me, and yet I'm still doing it.
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Post by Libra on Mar 30, 2015 22:54:47 GMT -5
In any event, given the past week's showdown, I have to chuckle at the BB Indicator result; this leapfrogged Darius to top that chart, and it wasn't even close. He gained all of 4 spins while this had the second-biggest gain on the entire chart (behind only Aldean's new one). (But it also shows 3 weeks at #1 for this. Dear BB: Proofreading is a thing. :) )
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 30, 2015 23:05:32 GMT -5
In any event, given the past week's showdown, I have to chuckle at the BB Indicator result; this leapfrogged Darius to top that chart, and it wasn't even close. He gained all of 4 spins while this had the second-biggest gain on the entire chart (behind only Aldean's new one). (But it also shows 3 weeks at #1 for this. Dear BB: Proofreading is a thing. :) )
Yeah the Indicator and Activator charts are not manipulated to the level of the MB and Billboard Airplay charts so those actually can be seen as more credible.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 31, 2015 12:20:10 GMT -5
Well, I think Darius's song is garbage, so I'm glad he missed the #1.
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Post by zjames on Mar 31, 2015 20:09:26 GMT -5
Congratulations to Zac Brown Band on another #1 hit. After the somewhat underwhelming Uncaged era and their departure from their established country sound with The Grohl Sessions, it's nice to see them regain their country radio momentum with a big hit.
As for their next single, I expect ZBB to release a summery, beachy song (even though they've always released their beach singles third) that will sell very well. "Mango Tree (feat. Sara Bareilles)" and "Castaway" both sound like lighter summer songs. They could also release the light and breezy "One Day", which they've been playing in concert for years. Zac also expects "Beauitful Drug" to be a crossover hit, so that could also be released next. It's going to be interesting to see what happens next.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 20:50:21 GMT -5
Congratulations to Zac Brown Band on another #1 hit. After the somewhat underwhelming Uncaged era and their departure from their established country sound with The Grohl Sessions, "Mango Tree (feat. Sara Bareilles)" and "Castaway" both sound like lighter summer songs. By saying that they sound like summer songs, are you just going based off of their titles or have you actually heard the songs? If so how?
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Post by zjames on Mar 31, 2015 20:55:13 GMT -5
Congratulations to Zac Brown Band on another #1 hit. After the somewhat underwhelming Uncaged era and their departure from their established country sound with The Grohl Sessions, "Mango Tree (feat. Sara Bareilles)" and "Castaway" both sound like lighter summer songs. By saying that they sound like summer songs, are you just going based off of their titles or have you actually heard the songs? If so how? Sorry for the confusion. I meant that the TITLES sound like beachy songs, such as "Toes", "Knee Deep", and "Jump Right In".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 20:57:58 GMT -5
At least Darius managed to lose just enough to finish in second place. Do we suppose that, in addition to charts being rigged by massive late-night airplay, we are also seeing "promises" being made? They would take the form of, "Don't worry, we'll lose to you on BB by getting our spins reduced, as long as you let us have the MB position the day before." Yikes, that would be worse than just the extra spins. I don't know that that's happening, but Darius had the double #1 in the palm of his hand, and had proved the ability to add enough spins -- but now we see he loses -- arranges to lose? -- by 160k by losing half a mill on the final day. Amazing stuff. Why anybody follows these charts is beyond me, and yet I'm still doing it. I certainly can't prove it Zazie, but unfortunately I've speculated just what you did here, that #1's are becoming more and more manufactured, with some of them actually being pre-determined. Every now and then there are situations where a true battle takes place (I think we're seeing that this week with ZBB, Sam Hunt, and Chris Young all pushing for #1), but mostly it seems that the labels deliberately take turns and play nice with each other. I honestly believe that Capitol and Southern Ground came to an arrangement to allow Darius to take the Mediabase #1 but step out of the way to allow ZBB to take the Billboard #1, perhaps because they (SG) weren't positive that they could hold off both MCA/Sam Hunt and RCA/Chris Young this week...and that way if they do lose out, at least "Homegrown" got to #1 on Billboard yesterday. No way to prove it, but sadly I do think it's happening where labels make these sort of arrangements not only with radio stations but also with competing labels. Everybody gets a trophy!!! I still think ZBB can finish this week at #1, at least on Mediabase if not on Billboard, and then we'll see Sam Hunt take over (maybe Sam will be #1 on BB this coming Monday already). But I did hear the morning show hosts on KNIX this morning talking about how Chris Young would be here tomorrow and about how they're going to be playing "Lonely Eyes" every hour (only during the morning show, but still). I'm so sick of "Lonely Eyes"...both Phoenix stations have had it in pretty high rotation almost immediately after it was released back at the end of August. I don't think I can get in my truck and drive around for 5 minutes without hearing it. I hear "Homegrown" and "Take Your Time" a lot as well, but neither of those has burned on me like Chris' song has.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 31, 2015 21:08:48 GMT -5
At least Darius managed to lose just enough to finish in second place. Do we suppose that, in addition to charts being rigged by massive late-night airplay, we are also seeing "promises" being made? They would take the form of, "Don't worry, we'll lose to you on BB by getting our spins reduced, as long as you let us have the MB position the day before." Yikes, that would be worse than just the extra spins. I don't know that that's happening, but Darius had the double #1 in the palm of his hand, and had proved the ability to add enough spins -- but now we see he loses -- arranges to lose? -- by 160k by losing half a mill on the final day. Amazing stuff. Why anybody follows these charts is beyond me, and yet I'm still doing it. I certainly can't prove it Zazie, but unfortunately I've speculated just what you did here, that #1's are becoming more and more manufactured, with some of them actually being pre-determined. Every now and then there are situations where a true battle takes place (I think we're seeing that this week with ZBB, Sam Hunt, and Chris Young all pushing for #1), but mostly it seems that the labels deliberately take turns and play nice with each other. I honestly believe that Capitol and Southern Ground came to an arrangement to allow Darius to take the Mediabase #1 but step out of the way to allow ZBB to take the Billboard #1, perhaps because they (SG) weren't positive that they could hold off both MCA/Sam Hunt and RCA/Chris Young this week...and that way if they do lose out, at least "Homegrown" got to #1 on Billboard yesterday. You know, I've also secretly thought this for a couple years now and I really hope that it's not the case, though I'd have to keep my head buried in sand to ignore the blatant signs that this is indeed the case. This is why I've brought up before that labels and radio don't care about the "integrity" of the charts and #1 singles - it's just not that important to them anymore whether or not they are manufactured. 99% of fans will see the song went #1 on MB and/or Billboard and say "oh, look at that. This song was a huge hit. So much so that it went to #1 - that's awesome!". I started really going in depth within the industry and chart watching about 10 years ago and this was nowhere near the problem it is now. Like you said, there's still situations where actual battles take place (think the "Drunk On A Plane"/"River Bank" situation last year), but most of the time it's almost like these songs have their appointments at #1 scheduled before hand.
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Post by zjames on Apr 2, 2015 18:40:14 GMT -5
There's a countdown on homegrown.zacbrownband.com that says "Be Part of our Fan Video in 160 Hours". I don't know why they didn't plan to have a music video out while this was climbing the charts, but better late than never I guess.
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Post by dm2081 on Apr 3, 2015 13:25:43 GMT -5
Seeing today's update has me confident that this will be #1 on both charts. It was able to outgain Sam slightly today, and it had some wiggle room to work with when the week began (on Billboard). Glad to see, because it's evident this is going to be one of the biggest hits of the year, so at least those songs should be able to get more than a week at #1.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 3, 2015 13:31:42 GMT -5
Seeing today's update has me confident that this will be #1 on both charts. It was able to outgain Sam slightly today, and it had some wiggle room to work with when the week began (on Billboard). Glad to see, because it's evident this is going to be one of the biggest hits of the year, so at least those songs should be able to get more than a week at #1. It definitely appears that ZBB wants #1 on both charts this week, and it really should too. In a perfect world, "Homegrown" would have already had #1 on both charts and claimed another week on both; then Sam could have taken over for two to three weeks. ZBB still has the edge in spins by 267 spins and nearly 1.1 million in audience, so I expect this song to be #1 on both MB and Billboard.
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Post by Zazie on Apr 3, 2015 16:26:26 GMT -5
I agree with you, but Chris' enormous spins gain this morning tells me that that there's still a possibility Lonely Eyes can manage a week at #1 on MB. The extra spins will come in handy -- I see that Chris is 2 mill behind ZBB on this morning's MB update. That's a lot to make up, but if he gains more than 150 spins both tomorrow and Sunday, maybe he can close the gap in audience enough...
What am I saying here? I don't want this to happen but I'm fascinated by the possibility that, even if it shouldn't, it might. This would be a good time for a two-day nap. I guess it's a good thing that ZBB and Hunt are dueling each other -- if it were only 1 song Young was chasing, he might catch it. But with two songs already locked in a serious battle, there is incentive for both of them to push hard, so Young can't pull off his pointless and annoying "miracle."
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 3, 2015 16:47:22 GMT -5
I agree with you, but Chris' enormous spins gain this morning tells me that that there's still a possibility Lonely Eyes can manage a week at #1 on MB. The extra spins will come in handy -- I see that Chris is 2 mill behind ZBB on this morning's MB update. That's a lot to make up, but if he gains more than 150 spins both tomorrow and Sunday, maybe he can close the gap in audience enough... What am I saying here? I don't want this to happen but I'm fascinated by the possibility that, even if it shouldn't, it might. This would be a good time for a two-day nap. I guess it's a good thing that ZBB and Hunt are dueling each other -- if it were only 1 song Young was chasing, he might catch it. But with two songs already locked in a serious battle, there is incentive for both of them to push hard, so Young can't pull off his pointless and annoying "miracle." Unfortunately anything's possible (probably the only time you'll here me or anyone say "unfortunately" before "anything's possible", lol), and RCA wouldn't be pushing this hard if there wasn't a chance, but the reason I think he'll fall short are the two singles in front of him. ZBB and Sam aren't going to cooperate here. ZBB already did for Darius, and it darn near almost cost them the Billboard #1 as well. "Lonely Eyes" could not have picked a worse week to do this. ZBB has gained 66 spins and 1.3 million in audience so far this week, while Sam's gained 361 spins and 2.97 million in audience, and Chris has gained 356 spins and 1.57 million in audience (156 spins coming today of course). 'Lonely Eyes" needed bigger gains earlier this week and they never got them. My estimates put ZBB around 27200 points on MB, while Sam sits between 26800 and 26900, and Chris is at about 26200 to 26300. Basically, Chris has to gain about 300 more spins (at least) 2.5 million in audience to overtake ZBB, since "Homegrown" has shown zero slow down this week. That's the real stumbling block here for RCA, is the competition in front of them. Most other weeks I would give RCA the benefit of the doubt and reasonable odds to get there, but the numbers are still against them, and there's just two days left.
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