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Post by slamina on Feb 26, 2015 23:46:13 GMT -5
This song is a smash. Will be the farm on it. They have a plan. Some people are just being a little short-sighted i think. I don't see it. ;) But I HOPE you are right because I love the song and think that radio could use a serious dose of something like this. I don't see it either tbh as much as I love this song. HBS is catchier and as a lead single if that underperforms (which seems likely at this point), it will be tough for this to break through. Wouldn't mind being wrong though I should point that while most predicted that HBS would be a ginormous hit single, I stated early on that I believed it would perform modestly. :)
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Post by ILLUSION on Feb 28, 2015 9:39:06 GMT -5
The more I listen to this, the more I am starting to love it. It easily gets stuck in your head. Still not convinced about its potential as a single though.
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Post by velcro on Feb 28, 2015 12:06:07 GMT -5
Love this song and it's a total earworm but I fear the themes articulated in the lyrics may be too platonic and not dark and/or sexy enough to intrigue Pop radio programmers.
We'll see...I just hope it doesn't underperform and effectively close the era because I think Take You High and RRR have the strongest hit potential.
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Post by popbox on Feb 28, 2015 21:13:31 GMT -5
This has a lot of potential as a single I think, but NOT coming off of Flatline Song. I think it will get totally lost in the shuffle having to follow up a lead single that was a momentum killer. It needs to come off of a hit, then I think it can be a hit too. Also this being second would make it a Spring/ early Summer song, which doesn't fit well for it either. Save it for later and get Take You High out there ASAP.
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Post by Envoirment on Feb 28, 2015 21:24:03 GMT -5
Hope this does really well for Kelly. It's a grower and really love it now, but I'm not too sure how it'll do following "Heartbeat Song". I'm sure the label have a plan and promotion lined up for the song. Can't wait to see how it all pans out.
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Post by Rumors on Mar 1, 2015 11:29:26 GMT -5
After listening to the entire album once, this was the strongest song for me. I didn't realize the Heartbeat Song wasn't a bonafide hit yet so I don't know how this will fair on Pop. It will probably go #1 on HotAC/AC but I don't know about pop. Image is important on pop and Kelly just doesn't look like a pop star to me at the moment. I said the same thing in the HS thread and believe it even more so after watching some of her interviews this week.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Mar 1, 2015 11:45:41 GMT -5
I like the song on first listen.
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Post by ILLUSION on Mar 2, 2015 19:15:48 GMT -5
One of my local radio stations is tweeting that this is single #2. Did they already send it out secretly to radio ahead of release?
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Post by bigb0882 on Mar 2, 2015 21:39:45 GMT -5
I love this song but the more I listen to the entire album, the less sure I am about this as a single. Not because there are better songs but I don't think this is going to hit hard enough or make enough of a statement. It is much closer to a MKIA than another Stronger. I think they might as well throw out Take You High and go all in. If this goes nowhere then the album could be dead. I am not sure another top 20 hit is going to do any better for the album than sending out a risk like Take You High even if it doesn't go top 40.
Now, don't get me wrong, I love this song. I just don't think it is what the album needs at radio right now. It feels too safe. I hope I am wrong and radio eats it up, the Sia connection may help.
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Post by fallensaint on Mar 2, 2015 23:08:00 GMT -5
After listening to the entire album once, this was the strongest song for me. I didn't realize the Heartbeat Song wasn't a bonafide hit yet so I don't know how this will fair on Pop. It will probably go #1 on HotAC/AC but I don't know about pop. Image is important on pop and Kelly just doesn't look like a pop star to me at the moment. I said the same thing in the HS thread and believe it even more so after watching some of her interviews this week.
I think this should have been the first single, especially b/c it has more of an int'l appeal, and HBS is making little waves in most countries in the world.
HBS is sputtering along, even in the US/Canada (though the album release is helping its iTunes sales)
Invincible will do well, but I'm not sure we're talking top 10 BB Hot 100 single.
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Post by QAF on Mar 3, 2015 14:37:32 GMT -5
Any idea when this might go for adds?
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Mar 3, 2015 14:55:32 GMT -5
Hopefully never. TYH, RRR and PBP for the win!
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Post by popbox on Mar 3, 2015 15:33:26 GMT -5
Hopefully never. TYH, RRR and PBP for the win! This is an infinitely better choice than RRR, imo. That is one of the only boring songs on the album. This at least has great production, a decent hook, and a bit of an anthem vibe.
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Post by QAF on Mar 3, 2015 16:23:19 GMT -5
I actually love all 4 tracks but Kelly said this is the next single so I'm excited. I have no idea how it will do but I love the message of the song and Kelly's vocal delivery is everything; especially when it explodes towards the end of the song. Chills.
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Post by DJ General on Mar 3, 2015 16:27:20 GMT -5
Listening to this for the first time now. Not completely sure how I feel about it yet, at least as a single.
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Post by Caviar on Mar 3, 2015 16:31:54 GMT -5
It's a strong album track and that's all it needs to be.
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Post by Jack on Mar 3, 2015 16:48:25 GMT -5
I almost hope this isn't the single so we don't have people coming in twice daily saying Zomg Tightrope is the clear choice for the next single (my point being any other single than this single). Everyone has their favorite tracks, everyone he's projections and stanbitions as to what would smash in their heads.
But play the album to any record exec, radio pusher, manager in Top 40 music and they'd tell you this is the correct choice for single two.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 16:52:53 GMT -5
'Bad Reputation' is the clear choice for the next single.
(No, but really I do love 'Bad Reputation').
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Post by dbhmr on Mar 3, 2015 16:56:28 GMT -5
I almost hope this isn't the single so we don't have people coming in twice daily saying Zomg Tightrope is the clear choice for the next single (my point being any other single than this single). Everyone has their favorite tracks, everyone he's projections and stanbitions as to what would smash in their heads. But play the album to any record exec, radio pusher, manager in Top 40 music and they'd tell you this is the correct choice for single two. Even the most "meh" reviews (of which there are too many) consistently highlight "Invincible" and "Piece By Piece" as the stand-outs, so I'm inclined to believe this is the best choice for what's next, even if it isn't my absolute favorite. Invincible next, then Take You High, then Run Run Run, then Piece By Piece (this album won't go five singles deep, but I just can't yet accept the title track being ignored).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 16:58:30 GMT -5
'Bad Reputation' is the clear choice for the next single. (No, but really I do love 'Bad Reputation'). because you're a Virgo with good taste. I think with HS as the lead and with the way they've approached the era's promotion so far, Invincible is the most "proper" choice for a second single and RRR is all but locked in as third. In my perfect world however Bad Reputation would have been the lead, which would have called for a totally different set of single choices.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Mar 3, 2015 17:06:50 GMT -5
But play the album to any record exec, radio pusher, manager in Top 40 music and they'd tell you this is the correct choice for single two. I don't know, isn't that kind of a cop out? Did those same execs think that HBS was the correct lead single? And have they never made a single choice mistake? I happen to think that a lot of eras lose momentum and ultimately fail because of terrible single choices, among other factors of course. To have a they always know best mentality is giving the powers that be a little too much credit, especially at RCA, at least in my opinion.
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Post by Jack on Mar 3, 2015 18:26:14 GMT -5
But play the album to any record exec, radio pusher, manager in Top 40 music and they'd tell you this is the correct choice for single two. I don't know, isn't that kind of a cop out? Did those same execs think that HBS was the correct lead single? And have they never made a single choice mistake? I happen to think that a lot of eras lose momentum and ultimately fail because of terrible single choices, among other factors of course. To have a they always know best mentality is giving the powers that be a little too much credit, especially at RCA, at least in my opinion. Well you see, I'd argue your way is the cop out. Affirmative history versus speculative past means that talking about what didn't happen, or won't happen, allows for any number of theoretical scenarios in which we can daydream about about how, where and when certain favorite songs of ours would become megahits. It's the luxury that allows people to mourn the loss of "Let Me Down" not being a single, which now forever remains a potential hit. All anyone can really deal with is what is, in the here and now. Yes sometimes certain labels make bonehead decisions, but that wasn't really my point. I wasn't saying "RCA would say this is the clear second single", as that's a little redundant given that looks to be exactly what they would say, since it's seems that's exactly what is happening. I was saying that I think it's a decision that I'm certain most other labels, most radio pushers at those labels, and most of their roster's managers would make in objective terms for such an subjective decision. Oh and Heartbeat Song was absolute the right choice for the first single from this particular project.
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Post by dbhmr on Mar 3, 2015 18:31:55 GMT -5
I see what Jack is saying. There is no way, even knowing what I know now, that if I had the full CD in my hands, that I don't choose "Heartbeat Song" to be the lead single. It's not the best song on the album, it's not even necessarily representative of all the sounds/depth of the album, but it's the surefire hit of the album (which is, in our current reality, a scary prospect). Had she released "Invincible" or "Nostalgic" or "Take You High" first and then we got the album, the comments about why HBS was overlooked as the clear first single would probably be deafening. That it hasn't worked out is both a shame and a bit puzzling, but it still makes sense to me.
I just hope this connects in the way HBS could have but didn't, because this album desperately needs that, or all our third, fourth, fifth, etc. single talk will be moot.
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Post by popbox on Mar 3, 2015 18:47:05 GMT -5
I almost hope this isn't the single so we don't have people coming in twice daily saying Zomg Tightrope is the clear choice for the next single (my point being any other single than this single). Everyone has their favorite tracks, everyone he's projections and stanbitions as to what would smash in their heads. Except Take You High. That really is the best chance of a smash from the album.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Mar 3, 2015 20:10:28 GMT -5
I see what you're saying (Jack and dbhmr). I guess my point is I don't see this connecting much better than HBS, but I think other songs have a much higher chance of connecting. I see that it's a personal opinion, which is by its nature not objective. I don't see how anyone objectively thinks this fits on a pop radio playlist in 2015. I would love it to, as I love the song, I just don't see it.
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Post by BadRomance on Mar 3, 2015 20:42:43 GMT -5
After hearing the entire album, I'm really not sure this is the right choice for the next single!
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Post by Glove Slap on Mar 3, 2015 21:06:12 GMT -5
I just finished listening to the album.
This isn't even in my top 5 from it, but I fully agree that this is easily the best second single choice for CHR today. But it still needs some momentum to give it a push.
Ideally, both HS and this would have gone at least top 10, which would have paved the way for tracks like RRR, War Paint and Tightrope to succeed, but now...
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Post by getonthebus on Mar 3, 2015 21:17:12 GMT -5
I think this is the right choice because a ) it's an anthem, which are the only type songs of hers that CHR is interested in playing right now and b) it's got the highest cross-promotional/sync possibilities of any song on the album (commercials, movie trailers, etc.)
The only issue I have with the song is that I think the verses could be tamed down just a bit to emphasize the impact of the chorus.
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Post by velcro on Mar 3, 2015 23:18:37 GMT -5
^ watch my tears fall if TYH isn't a single
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Post by ILLUSION on Apr 12, 2015 22:05:17 GMT -5
Hellllooooooooo, RCA
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