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Post by Keelzit on Apr 6, 2015 9:00:46 GMT -5
She'll be totally fine but even if she completely ditches pop radio's sound for R8 she'll recover in no time whenever she decides to go back to pop. Personally the only song I don't really care for thus far is AO but even that has potential to grow on me.
As for this song, it still goes hard and when the video comes out nothing will be able to stop it from going #1 on the Hot 100.
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Post by nikkominaj on Apr 6, 2015 9:36:49 GMT -5
You guys are acting as if R8 is flopping. FFS may not have been a number 1 hit on pop but it is still selling very well on Itunes so obviously she has an audience still.
Just because it isn't a pop-dance track like We found or love Where have you been doesn't mean its a flop. I would rather her do music SHE WANTS TO DO instead of music she is forced to do to get a stupid pop hit.
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Post by B****BetterGetNOSL333P on Apr 6, 2015 11:03:39 GMT -5
She'll be totally fine but even if she completely ditches pop radio's sound for R8 she'll recover in no time whenever she decides to go back to pop. Personally the only song I don't really care for thus far is AO but even that has potential to grow on me. As for this song, it still goes hard and when the video comes out nothing will be able to stop it from going #1 on the Hot 100. Ditto! The video will sure destroy the chart! Bitch Better Have That #1!!! Can't stop listening to this song, I'm addicted
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Post by foxxden on Apr 6, 2015 11:50:59 GMT -5
wow, out of the itunes top ten to #13 now that initial hype has worn off. doesn't seem like a lot of people like this.
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Post by allow that on Apr 6, 2015 12:54:01 GMT -5
wow, out of the itunes top ten to #13 now that initial hype has worn off. doesn't seem like a lot of people like this. You sound very excited. Don't celebrate just yet though! The song spent the better part of a week at #1 with a massive lead so that would indicate that- wait for it- people do like the song. It'll rise right back up as airplay fills in and the video released. All it needs is exposure. Oh look! It's already #12 on iTunes, headed back up so soon <3
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Post by howardessex on Apr 6, 2015 14:08:40 GMT -5
Omg , this is awful , total mess . Heard it once and instant dislike . It is top 10 on UK I tunes since release but no one is playing it , now I can see why . It was top10 only for a while. In the official singles chart posted today, BBHMM only climbed 2 spots to #27, its a flop there. It will drop like a stone next week , out of he top 40 , no promo in UK / Europe whatsoever .
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 6, 2015 14:45:20 GMT -5
wow, out of the itunes top ten to #13 now that initial hype has worn off. doesn't seem like a lot of people like this. You sound very excited. Don't celebrate just yet though! The song spent the better part of a week at #1 with a massive lead so that would indicate that- wait for it- people do like the song. It'll rise right back up as airplay fills in and the video released. All it needs is exposure. Oh look! It's already #12 on iTunes, headed back up so soon <3 Are you sure? because it doesn't look like that right now. The song pulled an Skyfall on pop but worse, because it dropped out of the top 50. It returned to top 50 after the purges but today is out of top 50 again (and the song at 50 only has 3 more spins that this song had yesterday). The song is not as bad for pop as Pour it up was, but she messed a little bit this era with her first two releases. 45S is one of her more polarizing hits, it benefited that she wasn't on the radio for a good while, but this won't be so lucky in my opinion. She said in her interviews that she wanted timeless songs, so hopefully the rest of the album will be something different. Stay is timeless, this two singles are not Maybe rhythmic and urban stations give this the airplay that it needs to become a hit
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 6, 2015 14:55:55 GMT -5
You guys are acting as if R8 is flopping. FFS may not have been a number 1 hit on pop but it is still selling very well on Itunes so obviously she has an audience still. Just because it isn't a pop-dance track like We found or love Where have you been doesn't mean its a flop. I would rather her do music SHE WANTS TO DO instead of music she is forced to do to get a stupid pop hit. I think it's more simple than that. People here didn't like her two singles, it's not a question of a pop hit or not. 45S was a hit, not an Umbrella or We found love hit, but a hit anyway, but the truth is a lot of his fans don't like the song. When she release a new song from a new album there are always some drama, i still remember clearly how many people thought that Diamonds will flop. The difference is generally after a couple of weeks, people relax and the negative comments vanish. That didn't happen this time. She is a big artist now, and she has all the right to experiment, and of course people has all the right to not like her experiments. If Pour it up or Birthday cake (in my opinion her worst single by far) are the sound she wants to make from now on she must pursue it, but i won't be interested at all. And people are wrong to think that an artist always can go back to making hits. That doesn't work that way. There are a lot of cases of very successful artist that were done after a bad received album. Cases like Pink who was able to come back after a flop and a semiflop, are not that usual. Of course Rihanna is probably one of the singers who are less affected by flop singles. She has a lot, and from the very beginning of her career and she was always able to come back with a hit, but that doesn't mean that an album without pop hit singles will not affect her, she is not Beyonce
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Post by trustypepper on Apr 6, 2015 15:17:29 GMT -5
When she releases a straight-up pop single, it's going to sell and it's probably going to smash just like WFL, Only Girl, etc. I don't think this era is messed up at all just because she decided to go urban with this one.
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Post by allow that on Apr 6, 2015 16:49:34 GMT -5
You sound very excited. Don't celebrate just yet though! The song spent the better part of a week at #1 with a massive lead so that would indicate that- wait for it- people do like the song. It'll rise right back up as airplay fills in and the video released. All it needs is exposure. Oh look! It's already #12 on iTunes, headed back up so soon <3 Are you sure? because it doesn't look like that right now. The song pulled an Skyfall on pop but worse, because it dropped out of the top 50. It returned to top 50 after the purges but today is out of top 50 again (and the song at 50 only has 3 more spins that this song had yesterday). So that's what you got? It's a fail because it fell at Pop? It's not even her Pop single so any appearance in (or even below) the top 50 at all is a success and speaks to her star power. There's more to the world of music than top 40 radio and this song will undoubtedly smash where its intended to: Urban and Rhythmic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 17:26:20 GMT -5
Yes, that will teach her not to release music she wants to release. How dare she not give you all a pop single. Lol, we are mighty selfish little brats when you put it that way huh? Well yeah, when someone is a multiformat artist it IS kind of selfish and bratty to demand that she pick a specific one, and only that format, to cater to first. I've been complaining about urban fans pulling this kind of temper tantrum for a good two years now, and pop fans aren't above being called out for it either. It's not even like Rihanna is only releasing urban singles...all three songs we have heard so far are very different from each other and two of them don't even sound urban. FFS's weak airplay on urban will back me up on this one, and I highly doubt AO will get much play there either - you guys already got two pop songs to be honest, but because they're not the super glossy, label-engineered-smashes that everyone expected, many are claiming that she is only releasing urban singles and getting upset about it. BBHMM, being the only song of the three that is undeniably urban, is taking a lot of heat for a problem that a) doesn't exist and b) if it did, shouldn't even be considered a problem. I think I'm less put off by what would be a valid disappointment in the lack of obviously pop-friendly singles, and more by the mostly unspoken but strongly implicit sentiment that it's another opportunity for non-urban fans to take a dump on urban music simply for the fact that it's something they don't listen to. And since Rihanna is not releasing the most pop-friendly music, it is easier to classify it as more of her 'urban crap' than simply calling it crap, or just acknowledging that it's in a class of music that one has never really been into and therefore can't fully judge, but won't buy. There's a good argument that BBHMM is not really amenable to CHR - hell, to say that is a massive understatement - but so few people seem capable of pointing that out without getting in an unnecessary dig at r&b/urban in general. It would be like me shitting on rock music simply because I don't listen to much of it. My personal tastes could not ever determine the quality of an entire genre of music, nor should I ever have the ego to think that they do. There also seems to be a HUGE assumption that Rihanna is screwing up her sales by not catering to pop right away, when we don't know for sure if that is the case yet. Not saying it isn't, just that it's premature to reach that conclusion when we don't even have an album title, let alone any sales estimates or preorders to work with. Madonna and Britney have always been pop though, and nothing else. Of course it wouldn't make sense for them to abandon the only format they ever catered to. (Although if they ever did I'd support their choice, just for the sake of artistic freedom) In this sense, Rihanna is not comparable. Even when she first started, she was labeled as r&b. This statement is almost ironic as I personally never really considered her as someone who made r&b music until Rated R, but she has always had that label put on her. And if you think about it, for as much as she has had pop success she has also always been in lockstep with whatever trend is going on in r&b too, going all the way back to Pon de Replay and that island music trend of 2004-2005. So it's not a surprising or bad thing if she chooses to dabble in a sound where she's always had at least one foot on the ground. Also, pop and r&b aren't really 'a lot of genres.' She has tried her hand at a lot of different sounds within those genres, but she has firmly remained within the confines of those two. You sound very excited. Don't celebrate just yet though! The song spent the better part of a week at #1 with a massive lead so that would indicate that- wait for it- people do like the song. It'll rise right back up as airplay fills in and the video released. All it needs is exposure. Oh look! It's already #12 on iTunes, headed back up so soon <3 Are you sure? because it doesn't look like that right now. The song pulled an Skyfall on pop but worse, because it dropped out of the top 50. It returned to top 50 after the purges but today is out of top 50 again (and the song at 50 only has 3 more spins that this song had yesterday). allow that is talking iTunes numbers; you're talking radio AI. Two different things. It looks like the song is back at #13, but it's still in the green. Given that, I think the fact that the song is still hanging tough on iTunes is pretty decent considering its lack of big airplay at the moment. When she release a new song from a new album there are always some drama, i still remember clearly how many people thought that Diamonds will flop. The difference is generally after a couple of weeks, people relax and the negative comments vanish. That didn't happen this time. BBHMM has literally only been out one week so I'm gonna need you to wait a little bit before you start talking about differences. But also, the negative comments never vanish. Even with WFL I remember people trying to undercut its success. And Diamonds had its own fair share of controversy when Billboard declared it to be an r&b song, much to the chagrin of many r&b fans.
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Post by Keelzit on Apr 6, 2015 18:30:58 GMT -5
She has a lot, and from the very beginning of her career and she was always able to come back with a hit, but that doesn't mean that an album without pop hit singles will not affect her, she is not BeyonceWhat do you mean by that? If anything Beyonce is not Rihanna since she hasn't had a top 10 pop hit in 6 years (her last one was 2 albums ago) so she's definitely not a case of recovering after a string of flops eventhough her recent material is not pop-oriented at all. Or maybe what you mean is that Rih will be unable to move albums without a pop hit? If that's the case then we'll have to wait and see. If Rated R's sales before Rude Boy exploded are anything to go by though, I think she'll be fine especially now that her celebrity status is at an all-time high.
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Post by ss8 on Apr 6, 2015 18:50:25 GMT -5
I def like Ms Rih Rih but can't lie and am not at all trying to goof on her but when this came on the radio earlier today I started cracking up in my car. It sounds like a parody song. Tried not look like loony so really had to contain myself. She has and can still do SO much better than this! :/
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 7, 2015 5:24:31 GMT -5
She has a lot, and from the very beginning of her career and she was always able to come back with a hit, but that doesn't mean that an album without pop hit singles will not affect her, she is not BeyonceWhat do you mean by that? If anything Beyonce is not Rihanna since she hasn't had a top 10 pop hit in 6 years (her last one was 2 albums ago) so she's definitely not a case of recovering after a string of flops eventhough her recent material is not pop-oriented at all. Or maybe what you mean is that Rih will be unable to move albums without a pop hit? If that's the case then we'll have to wait and see. If Rated R's sales before Rude Boy exploded are anything to go by though, I think she'll be fine especially now that her celebrity status is at an all-time high. What i wanted to say is that it's pretty clear that Beyonce can sustain her popularity and sales without having a pop hit. Beyonce always sold albums, and not getting hits didn't affect her sales. Rihanna's albums sell well, but she is not in the same league, and all her albums had pop hits (before rude boy, Hard was a top 10 on pop and the billboard hot 100, and even Russian Roulette was a top 10 on the billboard hot 100 even underperforming as Rihanna's first single). I don't think she will be unable to move albums without pop hits, but i think she will sell less albums without pop hits
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Post by hitseeker. on Apr 7, 2015 6:20:31 GMT -5
Pop: 43 49 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 617 1018 -401 2.930
This was its update on Sunday after recurrents were removed:
43 50 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 558 880 -322 3.158
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Post by KissMyAxe on Apr 7, 2015 10:36:45 GMT -5
He meant that Beyonce is an album artist whereas Rihanna is most probably a singles artist
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Post by franzjoseph on Apr 7, 2015 10:56:41 GMT -5
Please don't give this the time of day pop radio!!
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Post by California Cheers on Apr 7, 2015 11:10:42 GMT -5
Rhythmic: 44 18 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 1610 569 1041 10.777
+189 Spins +102 Bullet +1.030 AI
Urban: 34 28 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 883 676 207 6.795
+136 Spins +82 Bullet +0.657 AI
iTunes: #13
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Post by howardessex on Apr 7, 2015 13:56:24 GMT -5
Rhythmic: 44 18 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 1610 569 1041 10.777 +189 Spins +102 Bullet +1.030 AI Urban: 34 28 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 883 676 207 6.795 +136 Spins +82 Bullet +0.657 AI iTunes: #13 These updates are good considering it's a terrible song ! . I think she has changed as a person , bad attitude in public , endless expletives etc , she is over her peak and it's only down hill from now on .
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Post by hitseeker. on Apr 7, 2015 14:12:58 GMT -5
LMFAO
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Apr 7, 2015 14:21:56 GMT -5
I am kind of sad, but I am just not that excited about the new music this era. I liked FFS for about five minutes and everything else has been nice, but nothing has captured me like at least one single from every other album she has released except maybe her debut. I mean, no big deal. It is rare to love every cd an artist releases even a favorite of yours. But, I hope there are some gems on the cd that I enjoy more than the 3-4 songs we have heard so far.
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Post by Wave. on Apr 7, 2015 14:44:24 GMT -5
Rhythmic: 44 18 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 1610 569 1041 10.777 +189 Spins +102 Bullet +1.030 AI Urban: 34 28 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 883 676 207 6.795 +136 Spins +82 Bullet +0.657 AI iTunes: #13 These updates are good considering it's a terrible song ! . I think she has changed as a person , bad attitude in public , endless expletives etc , she is over her peak and it's only down hill from now on . Oh forreal?
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Post by msmadamek on Apr 7, 2015 15:20:51 GMT -5
Why does it have to be downhill for her. Why do so many people want to put out failure for her into the universe. She's only put out 3 songs and that doesn't equate a whole album. If her new songs aren't your cup of tea then that's fine but don't predict her to fail. Because what's trash to you is a treasure to someone else.
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Post by ant on Apr 7, 2015 15:41:34 GMT -5
How did I know that karma would bite me in the ass after I trashed this song and I'd end up liking it? Ugh.
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Post by velaxti on Apr 7, 2015 15:51:00 GMT -5
Gosh this thread is so overly-dramatic! It'll be a pretty sad state of affairs if Rihanna's decade-end, hugely successful career dies JUST because she released a folk-ish song and a hip hop song. Calm down. She'll probably have another 3 or 4 more singles out before the end of this year, if she goes back to her usual rate of pumping out singles!
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Post by hitseeker. on Apr 8, 2015 6:27:35 GMT -5
Pop: 42 49 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 655 1072 -417 3.015
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Post by hitseeker. on Apr 8, 2015 7:09:29 GMT -5
It's on Spotify YASS! :'(
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Post by NeRD on Apr 8, 2015 8:37:55 GMT -5
Yaaasssss :'(
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Post by hitseeker. on Apr 8, 2015 12:31:19 GMT -5
This got 9 adds on Pop, 8 on Rhythmic, and 7 on Urban.
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Post by hitseeker. on Apr 8, 2015 14:25:47 GMT -5
Climbs 4 spots to #19 on the Hot100.
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