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Post by trustypepper on Apr 17, 2015 12:13:41 GMT -5
Back with another discussion question!
Most of us have described a song as "the perfect pop song" before. Some that I've heard include Toxic, Dancing Queen, We Found Love, etc. What are some of the best examples that deserve this label, in your opinion? List as many as you'd like, and explain if you want!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 12:16:05 GMT -5
"Fantasy" by Mariah
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Apr 17, 2015 12:26:24 GMT -5
'N Sync - It's Gonna Be Me
Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way
Miley Cyrus - Party in the USA
Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
New Kids on the Block - Step by Step
Paula Abdul - Forever Your Girl
Britney Spears - Toxic
Christina Aguilera - Beautiful
A-Ha - Take on Me
Robyn - Show Me Love
Janet Jackson - All For You
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 12:31:20 GMT -5
Mariah Carey- Fantasy, Honey, Emotions, AIWFCIY
Christina Aguliera- Genie In A Bottle, Ain't No Other Man, Candyman, Dirrty
Rihanna- Rude Boy
Britney Spears- Baby, Toxic
Beyoncé- Countdown, End Of Time
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 12:41:10 GMT -5
Always Be My Baby by Mariah Carey, Poker Face by Lady Gaga, Since U Been Gone by Kelly Clarkson, Crazy In Love by Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z, Don't Speak by No Doubt and Together Again by Janet Jackson.
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Post by Air Jordin on Apr 17, 2015 12:42:09 GMT -5
We Found Love
Oops I Did It Again
Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)
Battlefield
Raise Your Glass
Just Dance
Hot N Cold
Like a Prayer
Song for the Lonely
Irreplaceable
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 17, 2015 12:45:49 GMT -5
For me a "perfect" pop song is one that is constructed really well in terms of its melody and structure, and it of course has to be catchy. Some examples:
Hanson - MMMBop
Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
Mariah Carey - Dreamlover, All I Want For Christmas Is You, Fantasy, Always Be My Baby, Heartbreaker, We Belong Together
Britney Spears - Baby One More Time, You Drive Me Crazy, Toxic
Jackson 5 - I Want You Back
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Beyonce - Crazy In Love, Irreplaceable
Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way
The Beatles - I Want To Hold Your Hand, A Hard Day's Night, Help!
Lady Gaga - Poker Face, Bad Romance
The Righteous Brothers - You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling
BBMak - Back Here Baby
Miguel/Mariah Carey - #Beautiful
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 12:47:24 GMT -5
Just listing a few off the top of my head.
"Girls Just Wanna have Fun" - Cyndi Lauper
"Beat It" - Michael Jackson
"Emotions" - Mariah Carey
"Higher Love" - Steve Winwood
"Fantasy" - Mariah Carey
"Miss You Much" - Janet Jackson
"Bad Romance" - Lady Gaga
"Just Dance" - Lady gaga
"Toxic" - Britney Spears
"Shake it Off" - Taylor Swift
"Style" - Taylor Swift
"Royals" - Lorde
"Yeah" - Usher
"Somebody That I Use to Know" - Gotye ft Kimbra
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 17, 2015 12:57:30 GMT -5
I somehow forgot Taylor Swift's "I Knew You Were Trouble." Janet Jackson's "Escapade" would be another one. And Madonna's "True Blue."
I am surprised more of you haven't picked out "Always Be My Baby" for Mariah. That's probably her best melody.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Apr 17, 2015 13:46:58 GMT -5
I call Let Go by Avril Lavigne the perfect pop album so I guess anything from that.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Apr 17, 2015 14:22:52 GMT -5
katy perry last friday night came to mind immediately...
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Post by ry4n on Apr 17, 2015 15:21:30 GMT -5
Spice Girls - Wannabe
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Post by Kurt on Apr 17, 2015 15:26:08 GMT -5
The first one that comes to mind for me is probably not a very popular choice, but: "Catch My Breath" by Kelly Clarkson.
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Post by Glove Slap on Apr 17, 2015 15:35:33 GMT -5
First thing to come to mind. What "pop" as a genre (when people usually think of it) in itself really is is a rock/rock n roll song with the edges and heavier elements removed so the songwriting can shine without distraction.
There's of course a multitude of ways to incorporate the influence of different genres but at the bare bones it's this.
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 17, 2015 15:52:37 GMT -5
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Post by when the pawn... on Apr 17, 2015 16:56:54 GMT -5
Recent-ish examples that spring to mind are
"Bad Romance" by Lady Gaga
"Teenage Dream" by Katy Perry
"Latch" by Disclosure & Sam Smith
"Toxic" by Britney Spears
"Hey Ya!" by OutKast
"I Want It That Way" by Backstreet Boys
"Since U Been Gone" by Kelly Clarkson
"Blind" by Hercules and Love Affair
"Umbrella" by Rihanna & JAY Z
"Crazy" by Gnarls Barkley
"Someone Like You" by Adele
"All I Want For Christmas Is You" by Mariah Carey
"Dancing on my Own" by Robyn
"MMMBOP" by Hanson
Looking at the 80s...
every single off of Thriller and some off Off the Wall and Bad by Michael Jackson
"Papa Don't Preach" and "Like A Prayer" by Madonna
"When Doves Cry" by Prince
"Freedom 90" by George Michael
"Take On Me" by A-Ha
"In Your Eyes" by Peter Gabriel
"Hungry Like the Wolf" by Duran Duran
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Post by peacebone on Apr 17, 2015 20:44:26 GMT -5
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe Beyonce - Crazy In Love "Latch" by Disclosure & Sam Smith "Toxic" by Britney Spears "Hey Ya!" by OutKast "Since U Been Gone" by Kelly Clarkson "Crazy" by Gnarls Barkley I agree with these. |
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 17, 2015 21:32:20 GMT -5
For me, the "perfect pop song" is equateable to "pure pop." If a song borrows too many elements from one or more different genres, then it's no longer a "perfect pop song" as it's no longer a pop song, it's a song that borrows elements from many genres. Those can still be perfect, just not perfect pop.
Some recent examples that spring to mind:
Selena Gomez - Love You Like a Love Song
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Taylor Swift - Shake It Off/Blank Space
Sia - Chandelier
Katy Perry - pretty much most of Teenage Dream, with prime example being "Teenage Dream" and "Last Friday Night"
Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
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Post by Dreams on Apr 17, 2015 21:38:47 GMT -5
The Ronettes - "Be My Baby"
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Post by Future Captain on Apr 17, 2015 23:40:19 GMT -5
Max Martin Pop productions
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Apr 18, 2015 1:41:42 GMT -5
Alanis Morissette - Head Over Feet, Not As We, Precious Illusions, Uninvited, You Oughta Know
Annie Lennox - Little Bird, Pavement Cracks, Walking On Broken Glass
Blondie - Atomic, Heart Of Glass, Maria, Rapture
Chaka Khan - Ain't Nobody, Fate, I Feel For You, I'm Every Woman, Never Miss The Water
Darren Hayes - Darkness, God Walking Into The Room, So Beautiful
Donna Summer - Last Dance
Gloria Estefan - I See Your Smile
Jewel - Foolish Games, Intuition, Who Will Save Your Soul, You Were Meant For Me
Kelly Clarkson - Because Of You, Irvine, Never Again, Sober
Madonna - Erotica, Like A Prayer, Open Your Heart, True Blue, Who's That Girl
Mariah Carey - Always Be My Baby, Dreamlover, Fantasy, Looking In, Vanishing, Vision Of Love
Mary J. Blige - Deep Inside, Family Affair, Real Love, Your Child
Prince - Kiss, Let's Go Crazy, Purple Rain, Sign 'O' The Times, U Got The Look, When Doves Cry
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Apr 18, 2015 4:16:24 GMT -5
^^ couple example from the above - Erotica and Kiss - both great songs that I love, but I wouldn't call them perfect pop songs.
Like A Prayer, Teenage Dream, Toxic, Blank Space, Call Me Maybe, Umbrella, Bad Romance, a whole bunch of Max Martin and ABBA tracks... to me that's all perfect pop. Big, universal songs that few people don't enjoy or recognise to some extent as being solid pop.
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Post by Joey on Apr 18, 2015 6:07:14 GMT -5
Ranking the pop songs I think are the best: (recent ones)
Brave (Sara B)
Toxic
...Baby One More Time
Classic (MKTO)
My Life Would Suck Without You
Walk Away
Bye Bye Bye
(You Drive Me) Crazy
Bad Romance
Oops!... I Did It Again
Bang Bang (Jessie)
It's Gonna Be Me
Rock With U (Janet)
I Will Never Let You Down (Rita)
Second Wind (Kelly)
Stronger (Kelly)
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Post by jdanton2 on Apr 18, 2015 7:40:02 GMT -5
from last year i would say Problem and All About That Bass were perfect.
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Post by Unhinged on Apr 18, 2015 11:11:14 GMT -5
Ummm...where's the King on here?
Billie Jean
Beat It
Black Or White
The Way You Make Me Feel
Remember The Time
Man In The Mirror
Rock With You
Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
Human Nature
Smooth Criminal
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Post by Joe1240 on Apr 18, 2015 12:22:04 GMT -5
Selena Gomez-Come And Get It
Taylor Swift-Shake It Off/Blank Space
Katy Perry-Teenage Dream,California Gurls,Firework
Carly Rae Jepsen-Call Me Maybe
Ariana Grande-Problem
Demi Lovato-Give Your Heart A Break
Miley Cyrus-Wrecking Ball
Kelly Clarkson-Since U Been Gone
First ones that come to mind.
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Post by K. on Apr 18, 2015 20:49:33 GMT -5
To me, a "perfect pop song" is feel-good, makes you want to get up and dance or sing along, no matter how many times you've listened to it or how old it is.
Some songs I think fall into that category:
Toxic - Britney Spears (interesting that so many people seem to agree on that one)
Crazy in Love - Beyonce
Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepson
We Are Young - fun.
I Love It - Icona Pop
Fighter - Christina Aguilera
Fallin - Alicia Keys
Some older:
Sweet Dreams - Eurythmics
Hey Jude - The Beatles
Hand in My Pocket - Alanis Morissette
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Apr 19, 2015 3:30:30 GMT -5
"On My Own" - Patti LaBelle and Michael McDonald (I think Patti and Michael are a perfect combo and the production on the song is perfection.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 15:00:42 GMT -5
I can't believe that I forgot about this gem:
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Post by Musicguy on Apr 19, 2015 16:00:23 GMT -5
Codex's post is perfect, and all of you have great selections as well. I will add:
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