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Post by jjose712 on May 3, 2015 13:21:49 GMT -5
I thought this will be the first week Sam Smith free on the UK singles chart, but somehow Lay me down stayed at 38.
But it's the first week in a long long time without Sam or Ed in the top 5 of the album's chart
This is not on the itunes top 1000 right now, so it's going to start from zero
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Post by zaclord π on May 3, 2015 14:18:43 GMT -5
FINALLY. This is easily my favorite on the album, and like everyone already said, this should have been the 3rd single. But I'll take it being 4th. I'm expecting it to do better than "Lay Me Down" did
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Post by Rumors on May 3, 2015 17:03:35 GMT -5
I just listened to this for the first time. First impression - it's okay. I'm not really floored by it.
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Post by M1tchD on May 3, 2015 17:29:02 GMT -5
Finally they release something upbeat from Sam. His previous singles bored me but I like this on first listen.
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Post by allow that on May 3, 2015 23:17:01 GMT -5
My favourite male artist right now. Smash please. Damn boy I can't imagine you flexing to these lullabies in between "7/11' and "Partition." The many shades of Jback!
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Post by jjose712 on May 5, 2015 12:17:06 GMT -5
I suppose it started to get airplay. Yesterday it wasn't top 1500 on itunes, five hours ago was around 1350 and now it's 851. It's not smashing excatly, but at least it's going in the right direction
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Post by popbox on May 6, 2015 1:29:00 GMT -5
FINALLY! Let the smashing commence.
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Post by popbox on May 6, 2015 1:30:42 GMT -5
I'm shocked they're still sending singles from this album to radio. This needs to be the last single. He needs a fresh new project. I mean I don't give a s**t about Sam Smith so I don't care when they kill the era personally, but why on Earth would they stop promotion for an album that's still selling in the top 10 of the Billboard 200? That would make absolutely zero business sense. Even less sense where there's like 5 songs left with hit potential (why they released one of the few that didn't have hit potential with LMD is beyond me).
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Post by Glove Slap on May 6, 2015 2:12:03 GMT -5
5?
Aside from this, the only song I could see hitting off the main edition (which doesn't include Restart, so that's out) besides this is probably Life Support and maybe MOMM, and the latter is a stretch.
I would have said Leave Your Lover had potential if this had gone third, but not so much now.
In a flawless world, the US singles would have gone:
1. Stay With Me 2. I'm Not The Only One 3. Like I Can 4. Restart (which would have made the cut in this world) 5. Leave Your Lover 6. Reminds Me Of You (would have also made all editions)
Coming off of 2 non-ballads, assuming both were hits, combined with his popularity, would have given LYL its best shot imo.
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Post by jjose712 on May 6, 2015 2:32:55 GMT -5
Well he left two potential hits like Nirvana and Safe with me out of the album (in fact it was pretty obvious radio loved Safe with me, the song was almost top 60 on pop before the release of I'm not the only one)
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Post by Glove Slap on May 6, 2015 2:38:32 GMT -5
It's still upsetting that those two didn't make it past the EP.
If you took the best half of the main album, and replaced the other half with the bonus tracks, the songs left on the EP, and found a way to stick the original version of Latch on it as well, you would have had a stunning debut.
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Post by LBTrocks on May 6, 2015 2:45:14 GMT -5
It's about time. Love this song. This would have been the perfect follow-up to "I'm Not The Only One" and I still have no clue why they went with "Lay Me Down" instead. If they were insistent on releasing something other than "Like I Can" as the third single, it should have been "Leave Your Lover."
As for other singles, the only other song from the album that I own that hasn't been released yet is "Not In That Way" and there's no way that one would work. I've seen quite a bit of love for "Money On My Mind" but I personally don't see the appeal.
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Post by musicbuff26 on May 7, 2015 10:19:21 GMT -5
So I dont think he'll be performing at the BBMA's, he tweeted that he's having vocal cord surgery today. Can't copy and post it with my phone for some reason!
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Post by theflying on May 7, 2015 10:28:34 GMT -5
"Lay Me Down" has got to be the weirdest, most out-of-touch single choice since Michelle Branch's "Til I Get Over You." I'm glad they're going with something that makes sense. Omg I remember that. That is such a flawless album. I still don't understand what happened with Breathe, and then that single choice!
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Post by jjose712 on May 7, 2015 12:28:16 GMT -5
Lay me down was a big mistake in terms of airplay, his previous singles peaked at 1 and 2 on radio songs and LMD barely reach 30. It's going to fail to reach top 10 in any format. Curiously on the hot 100 did quite well.
At the time of the release i thought he was going to sing at the Grammys and that was the reason to chose LMD over LIC, because he felt more comfortable, but after singing Stay with me i just can think on a reason why they chose LMD as third single.
Now he killed the momentum on radio (not on album sales fortunately for him), and if he is not able to sing at the billboard awards is going to be an uphill battle, because the song never was one with more sales from the album, it's not even top 800, and without a big push i can't see radio being so inclined to give it a try. It will hit top 40 for sure, and maybe radio is eager for a more uptempo song and the airplay push the sales, but i won't be surprised if a song destined to be a big hit end flopping big time due to a incredibly bad strategy.
Well, at least he has Shawn Mendes to see if he wants somebody with an even less enlightned team behind him
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Post by Spidey on May 7, 2015 13:12:50 GMT -5
Well he left two potential hits like Nirvana and Safe with me out of the album (in fact it was pretty obvious radio loved Safe with me, the song was almost top 60 on pop before the release of I'm not the only one) They should have re-released the album with those two songs added in + maybe a new song or two. Then released "Nirvana" or "Safe With Me" to radio. The fact that those obvious smash hits didn't even make the album is beyond me.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on May 7, 2015 16:42:37 GMT -5
I LOVE this. I was also surprised to see Lay Me Down getting released, it was an odd choice but since I enjoyed the song and video I didn't complain. Unfortunately, that might have ruined the chances of Like I Can becoming a SMASH hit like it deserves to be.
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Post by Albie on May 7, 2015 17:57:16 GMT -5
<<<<<<<<<< "Nirvana"
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Post by maine on May 7, 2015 20:08:58 GMT -5
I'm already burnt on this song, but I'm glad this is next. It should have been third, but I'll take it one way or another. I doubt he'll be performing on the BBMAs.He announced on his Instagram that he's scheduled for vocal cord surgery next week and can't sing for the next 6-8 weeks. (wrong quote)
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Post by Glove Slap on May 7, 2015 20:22:48 GMT -5
Well he left two potential hits like Nirvana and Safe with me out of the album (in fact it was pretty obvious radio loved Safe with me, the song was almost top 60 on pop before the release of I'm not the only one) They should have re-released the album with those two songs added in + maybe a new song or two. Then released "Nirvana" or "Safe With Me" to radio. The fact that those obvious smash hits didn't even make the album is beyond me. The Japanese edition has the following tracklist. 1. Money On My Mind 2. Good Thing 3. Stay With Me 4. Leave Your Lover 5. I'm Not the Only One 6. I've Told You Now 7. Like I Can 8. Life Support 9. Not In That Way 10. Lay Me Down 11. Restart 12. Latch (Acoustic) 13. La La La (feat. Sam Smith) 14. Make It To Me 15. Reminds Me of You 16. Stay With Me (feat. Mary J. Blige) [Darkchild Version] 17. In the Lonely Hour (Acoustic) 18. Nirvana 19. Safe With Me 20. Together
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Post by crazyfun1 on May 7, 2015 20:23:45 GMT -5
I doubt he'll be performing on the BBMAs.He announced on his Instagram that he's scheduled for vocal cord surgery next week and can't sing for the next 6-8 weeks. (wrong quote) Yes I realized that after I posted it. I apologize.
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Post by Spidey on May 7, 2015 21:02:31 GMT -5
They should have re-released the album with those two songs added in + maybe a new song or two. Then released "Nirvana" or "Safe With Me" to radio. The fact that those obvious smash hits didn't even make the album is beyond me. The Japanese edition has the following tracklist. 1. Money On My Mind 2. Good Thing 3. Stay With Me 4. Leave Your Lover 5. I'm Not the Only One 6. I've Told You Now 7. Like I Can 8. Life Support 9. Not In That Way 10. Lay Me Down 11. Restart 12. Latch (Acoustic) 13. La La La (feat. Sam Smith) 14. Make It To Me 15. Reminds Me of You 16. Stay With Me (feat. Mary J. Blige) [Darkchild Version] 17. In the Lonely Hour (Acoustic) 18. Nirvana 19. Safe With Me 20. Together Why on earth is that not the U.S. tracklisting?!?!!!!
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Post by jimmyt on May 9, 2015 1:26:39 GMT -5
I wonder if Sam is just a bit over exposed now and people are a bit bored of him. This should smash but I have my doubts and it might even flop which would be a real worry for his future. Maybe over dramatic but you can sense things are not going that well now and he has been mismanaged.
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Post by jjose712 on May 9, 2015 4:49:39 GMT -5
I wonder if Sam is just a bit over exposed now and people are a bit bored of him. This should smash but I have my doubts and it might even flop which would be a real worry for his future. Maybe over dramatic but you can sense things are not going that well now and he has been mismanaged. I don't think so. He can be overexposed for sure, Stay with me was a massive hit with a lot of recurrent airplay, but frankly i don't think Sam is the type of artist who will be affected for flop singles. Bruno Mars last two singles flopped (at least for Bruno standards) and UF showed how eager people is for Bruno's new songs. Sam is a singer with a big adult fanbase who are way less interested in singles than in the album. The album continues to sell really well, and even we have the sense that LMD underperformed, the truth is it was a top 10 in the hot 100 with a good bunch of weeks in the top 20. Far from his previous hits, but good anyway. It's difficult to know how LIC is going to perform. I know that a lot of people think it's his Set fire to the rain, but the truth is while Set fire to the rain sold incredibly well before even being a single, LIC never was one of his best selling non single songs. People think it'll be a big hit because the sound fits perfectly the USA market. It'll depend if radio wants to play it. LMD killed a bit the momentum on radio, but the song has in its favour that it's his first upbeat song in the USA. He is going to be unable to do promo for a while, so airplay it's going to make the difference. If the song receives airplay i think sales will follow. Anyway, Sam's future is not going to depend of how this single or next one (if he release more songs from the album) will do. It will depend of a solid first single from his next album
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Post by crazyfun1 on May 9, 2015 9:27:27 GMT -5
I am a huge Sam fan and have his album. Yes, LIC had to be the worst radio single his record company could have released but all his songs are awesome and vocally amazing. I believe though I'm reading on here he has lots of naysayers, that LIC will hit Top 10. It's a ready-for-radio song. I also realize he doesn't have a huge fanbase, and for that I blame it on radio listeners who don't like different kinds of singers. Most people tend to love people who all sound the same and Sams voice is very unique and distinguished. Also for those who say he's 'overexposed' really ? He's no more 'overexposed' than Ed Sheeran and many other artists like...Taylor Swift ?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 9, 2015 10:40:38 GMT -5
Defensive much?
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Post by crazyfun1 on May 9, 2015 14:49:23 GMT -5
Just stating facts. Sam is no more over exposed than Ed or Taylor.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 9, 2015 16:29:25 GMT -5
Just stating facts. Sam is no more over exposed than Ed or Taylor. There were no facts stated. It's probably more of an opinion unless we brought out stats and figures and sales numbers and airplay and all that. I think the reason why Sam *might* seem overexposed to some compared to Ed or Taylor, who I would say are probably more exposed and known than Sam, is because Sam is kind of in his own field right now. Taylor and Ed blend in more because, as you said, people "tend to love (singers) who all sound the same" so naturally, they blend together. When artists emerge with a distinct sound from the norm, they stand out more and they risk their sound and style being overexposed. It happened with Mumford & Sons, it happened with Adele (although Adele is still pretty much universally loved) and it will happen with Sam Smith. It's about the perception and it's not necessarily a negative thing against him when people predict that this single may not perform very well. You can also support and praise your favourite without diminishing other artists and the people who like them, as you did.
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Post by crazyfun1 on May 9, 2015 19:51:51 GMT -5
As a new member of this board I get the feeling there's lots of bias. Yes we are talking about Sam Smith here but it could be any artist. I am a fan of Ed Sheerans but not Taylor and I do find Ed to be overexposed as well. My point was for so many people to say that Sam is when all of those peoples favorites are probably overexposed either a lot or a little, seems one-sided to me. If we can talk about one artist we can talk about them all, good or bad.
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Post by jjose712 on May 10, 2015 6:15:02 GMT -5
Sorry, but anybody being overexpossed in comparision with Taylor Swift is absurd. She is everywhere, radio, tv, magazines, people want to know about her private life.
Ed Sheeran is a good comparision in terms of fanbase and in the overexposition. Their overexposition come exactly from the same place, constant presence on radio and tv, and receiving awards. And at the same time, even with big hits, their threads are not multiple pages on here like any diva (even in her worst hours).
Other thing is the labels strategy with the releases in the USA is really wrong. They created a feeling of "oh another slow ballad from this guy on the radio". I say it a lot of times, i understand why they played safe with the album, but right now there's no reason to continue to play that safe. His sound is way more diverse of what his three american singles show. The album in fact is less diverse than his real sound.
He still sells albums at good rhythm every week (in fact Ed and Taylor are the only ones who continue to sell records that way after months of release, of the new artist only Meghan is doing something like that but on a minor scale). He (and in this he has a lot in common with ED too) has a teenage fanbase, but it's not the teen fanbase that screams at OD concerts. The difference with most artist on radio is that he has a big adult fanbase too. The type of fanbase that can make you sell albums without even being on the radio (like Adele did with her first album).
And overexposition has a lot to do with personal perception. If you don't like an artist or a song, and that artist or song is successful you are going to think he or she is everywhere. But frankly even being all over the radio, his public persona is very far from being on the levels of Rihanna, Gaga, Katy Perry or Taylor Swift, who are in the news for a lot of reasons apart of their music
On Like i can, we'll see what it's going to happen. With the surgery he will be unable to do promo for a while, and with the video avaliable for months, that means it'll depend on radio airplay. And that could go either way right now (when i still think as third single this would be top 10 without a problem)
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