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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 23:10:17 GMT -5
Sweet Jesus this is atrocious. It's actually amusing to me that (some) people STILL excuse Luke's absolutely awful recent material just because it's "fun dance music." Fun music usually isn't groundbreaking, but there are PLENTY of quality examples that prove a good uptempo tune doesn't have to be complete and utter garbage. Frankly, Luke's released a whole lot of garbage since he made it big, and he's run outta passes with me. Hell, his OWN MATERIAL proves artists don't have to release anything near this bad just because they're successful. All My Friends Say, "Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye and "Rain Is A Good Thing ring any bells for anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 6:00:37 GMT -5
Climbs 41-37 on the Hot 100 this week in its 4th week.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 4:55:43 GMT -5
This shows up at #1 on the Bullseye Callout survey with an 82% Total Positive rate, a 7% Dislike rate, and a 0% Strong Dislike rate. What's interesting is that "Diamond Rings and Old Barstools" shows up at #3 on this survey, which is basically on the opposite end of the music spectrum from this. Tim McGraw's song is pretty traditional (aside from the heavy auto-tune) and was originally intended to be a George Strait cut, so it seems like a song that would appeal to a different demographic than Luke's, yet the two are both doing really well on the same survey, suggesting that maybe country radio's audience hasn't become exclusively pop-leaning fans.
When you take ages 12-44 out of the survey, Luke slides down to #10 with 78% total positive and 8% dislike, and when you narrow the demo down to just females, Luke is at #2 with 84% total positive and 4% dislike. These showings are both still pretty strong. Granted, this song is brand new and there's still a lot of people who haven't heard "Kick the Dust Up" according to the survey so maybe over the next few weeks the negative passion will increase as more people hear the single. However, early research looks strong and I don't see this one hitting any sort of ceiling on the airplay charts or having the slightest bit of trouble getting to #1.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 5:41:10 GMT -5
This shows up at #1 on the Bullseye Callout survey with an 82% Total Positive rate, a 7% Dislike rate, and a 0% Strong Dislike rate. What's interesting is that "Diamond Rings and Old Barstools" shows up at #3 on this survey, which is basically on the opposite end of the music spectrum from this. Tim McGraw's song is pretty traditional (aside from the heavy auto-tune) and was originally intended to be a George Strait cut, so it seems like a song that would appeal to a different demographic than Luke's, yet the two are both doing really well on the same survey, suggesting that maybe country radio's audience hasn't become exclusively pop-leaning fans. When you take ages 12-44 out of the survey, Luke slides down to #10 with 78% total positive and 8% dislike, and when you narrow the demo down to just females, Luke is at #2 with 84% total positive and 4% dislike. These showings are both still pretty strong. Granted, this song is brand new and there's still a lot of people who haven't heard "Kick the Dust Up" according to the survey so maybe over the next few weeks the negative passion will increase as more people hear the single. However, early research looks strong and I don't see this one hitting any sort of ceiling on the airplay charts or having the slightest bit of trouble getting to #1. I don't think this one will have any trouble moving up the chart either, and of course the sales are good, but the research on it is a bit more of a mixed bag than what you've presented here. Sure, it's #1 overall on Bullseye Callout, but that's only one survey (and only a sample of 200 as well). On Bullseye's RadioFeedback chart (sample size 360), Luke is only #22 overall, and he has one of the highest 'strongly dislike' percentages, at 9.7%. Only "Girl Crush", "Let Me See Ya Girl", "Real Life", "House Party", and "White Lightning" have higher 'strongly dislike' percentages. And then over on Bullseye's New Music survey, Luke has the highest 'strongly dislike' (13.1%) rating on the 20-position chart. It's selling well because it's Luke Bryan, and it's probably going to research fairly well on some surveys because...it's Luke Bryan. Oftentimes people will up-vote a song if they are a fan of the artist, and we all know that Luke has a huge fan-base. Other people will often rate a song positively if they're familiar with the voice, and that's why artists like Luke, Blake, Kenny, Jason, etc. have no trouble moving up the radio charts -- they have a lot of fans and a lot of people are more familiar with them than any other artists, and so it's only natural that radio pushes them into top 20 and top 10 rotation quicker than peer artists who are newer and/or less established. This will be a hit because it's Luke Bryan and because it's a Luke Bryan lead single and because Luke could take almost anything to the top of the charts right now. But I don't think this will go down among his very biggest hits, and I find it really disappointing that he chose to lead off the album with this song. Luke had a chance to put out a really high-quality (yet still commercial) song here and turn it into a really big hit -- again, the fact that this is a lead single basically ensures that any song he released would have been a hit -- but unfortunately he went with KTDU instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 5:54:23 GMT -5
^This is a great catch and you bring up some good points, jhomes87. However, it perplexes me that different surveys of supposedly the same country radio listeners can produce different results. How are radio stations expected to determine which songs are the biggest hits when feedback on the same song varies from survey to survey? Any idea of which survey tends to be the most reliable?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 5:58:14 GMT -5
^This is a great catch and you bring up some good points, jhomes87. However, it perplexes me that different surveys of supposedly the same country radio listeners can produce different results. How are radio stations expected to determine which songs are the biggest hits when feedback on the same song varies from survey to survey? Any idea of which survey tends to be the most reliable? I'm no expert -- I'm sure radio stations look at a variety of national callout charts, but in the end I bet they pay much more attention to local or regional callout, and to things like M-scores and how they're doing (ratings-wise) against their cross-town competitor(s).
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jun 23, 2015 6:17:20 GMT -5
This shows up at #1 on the Bullseye Callout survey with an 82% Total Positive rate, a 7% Dislike rate, and a 0% Strong Dislike rate. What's interesting is that "Diamond Rings and Old Barstools" shows up at #3 on this survey, which is basically on the opposite end of the music spectrum from this. Tim McGraw's song is pretty traditional (aside from the heavy auto-tune) and was originally intended to be a George Strait cut, so it seems like a song that would appeal to a different demographic than Luke's, yet the two are both doing really well on the same survey, suggesting that maybe country radio's audience hasn't become exclusively pop-leaning fans. When you take ages 12-44 out of the survey, Luke slides down to #10 with 78% total positive and 8% dislike, and when you narrow the demo down to just females, Luke is at #2 with 84% total positive and 4% dislike. These showings are both still pretty strong. Granted, this song is brand new and there's still a lot of people who haven't heard "Kick the Dust Up" according to the survey so maybe over the next few weeks the negative passion will increase as more people hear the single. However, early research looks strong and I don't see this one hitting any sort of ceiling on the airplay charts or having the slightest bit of trouble getting to #1. I don't think this one will have any trouble moving up the chart either, and of course the sales are good, but the research on it is a bit more of a mixed bag than what you've presented here. Sure, it's #1 overall on Bullseye Callout, but that's only one survey (and only a sample of 200 as well). On Bullseye's RadioFeedback chart (sample size 360), Luke is only #22 overall, and he has one of the highest 'strongly dislike' percentages, at 9.7%. Only "Girl Crush", "Let Me See Ya Girl", "Real Life", "House Party", and "White Lightning" have higher 'strongly dislike' percentages. And then over on Bullseye's New Music survey, Luke has the highest 'strongly dislike' (13.1%) rating on the 20-position chart. Which is why I don't like Mediabase's callout scores very much. They have "Let Me See Ya Girl" as the song with the least dislike percentage, and songs such as "Country" and "Diamond Rings and Old Barstools" are also getting high dislike percentages there even though they are generally more liked on Bullseye Callout.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 7:38:33 GMT -5
This shows up at #1 on the Bullseye Callout survey with an 82% Total Positive rate, a 7% Dislike rate, and a 0% Strong Dislike rate. What's interesting is that "Diamond Rings and Old Barstools" shows up at #3 on this survey, which is basically on the opposite end of the music spectrum from this. Tim McGraw's song is pretty traditional (aside from the heavy auto-tune) and was originally intended to be a George Strait cut, so it seems like a song that would appeal to a different demographic than Luke's, yet the two are both doing really well on the same survey, suggesting that maybe country radio's audience hasn't become exclusively pop-leaning fans. Disregarding any potential flaws of surveys in general, I like these numbers. It's always my personal belief that country music is at its best when it has a moderate level of variety. Obviously Tim's song is very traditional, in nearly every aspect. Luke's song is far from traditional but it still addresses "country" topics and includes certain country instrumentation. I love both songs. I think that's the key to the genre's longeveity and success. What I don't like is when every artist feels the need to make songs like "Kick the Dust Up." Furthermore, if an artist does want to stray away from the traditional, they should at the very least produce the damn song like it's country and throw in some instruments that keep it real.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 23, 2015 13:08:51 GMT -5
^This is a great catch and you bring up some good points, jhomes87. However, it perplexes me that different surveys of supposedly the same country radio listeners can produce different results. How are radio stations expected to determine which songs are the biggest hits when feedback on the same song varies from survey to survey? Any idea of which survey tends to be the most reliable? I'm no expert We're not fooled.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 15:21:53 GMT -5
Ha! Maybe I'm some high-up label exec or radio programmer in disguise... Kidding. Or am I? ;)
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Post by dajross6 on Jun 24, 2015 11:18:31 GMT -5
There's been a bunch of random pushes for #1 over the last couple years, and I think if this makes the top it will be more phony than all of those. The callout scores I've seen aren't positive, people I talk to do NOT enjoy this song, and it doesn't pass the sniff test of a hit. Are the major radio companies just looking at sales rankings when compiling playlists? Not saying that's necessarily bad (it's a buying public that has proved to spend money on music and therefore tasty to advertisers), but if that's where we are going I'm jumping off this train now before it comes into the station. I'm really sick of what's come of the genre I learned to love 20 years ago, and never thought I'd be that guy who only listens to albums and older songs. I've become the adult I never wanted to be, and I don't like it one bit :(
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Post by kanimal on Jun 24, 2015 11:52:25 GMT -5
There's been a bunch of random pushes for #1 over the last couple years, and I think if this makes the top it will be more phony than all of those. The callout scores I've seen aren't positive, people I talk to do NOT enjoy this song, and it doesn't pass the sniff test of a hit. Are the major radio companies just looking at sales rankings when compiling playlists? Not saying that's necessarily bad (it's a buying public that has proved to spend money on music and therefore tasty to advertisers), but if that's where we are going I'm jumping off this train now before it comes into the station. I'm really sick of what's come of the genre I learned to love 20 years ago, and never thought I'd be that guy who only listens to albums and older songs. I've become the adult I never wanted to be, and I don't like it one bit :( I just don't see how the biggest artist in country music taking a fun, inoffensive (albeit uninspired) *lead single* that is selling well and researching decently enough (the only callout scores posted above are strong, so I'm confused what you mean by "aren't positive") to #1 would feel phony at all, let alone phonier than what seemingly happens every week on the country chart. I'm not accusing YOU of this, but it's also interesting to me that people play both sides of the coin when it comes to the "sales" argument. When it comes to Carrie not hitting #1 with the strong-selling SITW or some of the buzzworthy female artists not charting as well as they're selling, we hear talk of the unfair disparity between sales and airplay. But when it's a song by country males/"bros" the message board types don't like - Canaan Smith's "Love You Like That," this Luke Bryan song, etc - then radio is lame for taking sales into account.
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Post by dajross6 on Jun 24, 2015 21:20:18 GMT -5
There's been a bunch of random pushes for #1 over the last couple years, and I think if this makes the top it will be more phony than all of those. The callout scores I've seen aren't positive, people I talk to do NOT enjoy this song, and it doesn't pass the sniff test of a hit. Are the major radio companies just looking at sales rankings when compiling playlists? Not saying that's necessarily bad (it's a buying public that has proved to spend money on music and therefore tasty to advertisers), but if that's where we are going I'm jumping off this train now before it comes into the station. I'm really sick of what's come of the genre I learned to love 20 years ago, and never thought I'd be that guy who only listens to albums and older songs. I've become the adult I never wanted to be, and I don't like it one bit :( I just don't see how the biggest artist in country music taking a fun, inoffensive (albeit uninspired) *lead single* that is selling well and researching decently enough (the only callout scores posted above are strong, so I'm confused what you mean by "aren't positive") to #1 would feel phony at all, let alone phonier than what seemingly happens every week on the country chart. I'm not accusing YOU of this, but it's also interesting to me that people play both sides of the coin when it comes to the "sales" argument. When it comes to Carrie not hitting #1 with the strong-selling SITW or some of the buzzworthy female artists not charting as well as they're selling, we hear talk of the unfair disparity between sales and airplay. But when it's a song by country males/"bros" the message board types don't like - Canaan Smith's "Love You Like That," this Luke Bryan song, etc - then radio is lame for taking sales into account. Quite frankly I do NOT think sales should correlate to how airplay is reflected, no matter who the artists involved are. I can understand why radio would try to correlate the two at times (hopefully rarely), but I personally don't want the sales charts to govern the airplay chart. I'm more in favor of radio leading the charge because at least country radio listeners are helping to determine what's played instead of Top 40 listeners who like the occasional country song. When pop buyers are telling country radio what to play, a world of mess erupts. I've seen callout scores where Luke's song is upwards of 20% to 25% strongly dislikes. You may think that's positive/strong, but I don't because it's the highest on the chart. This is from two weeks ago I think so maybe those numbers have changed, but either way this is a lazy effort from the top name in the industry who can do better but chooses not to. Go ahead and cheer this one to the top guys!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 23:06:08 GMT -5
Quite frankly I do NOT think sales should correlate to how airplay is reflected, no matter who the artists involved are. I can understand why radio would try to correlate the two at times (hopefully rarely), but I personally don't want the sales charts to govern the airplay chart. I'm more in favor of radio leading the charge because at least country radio listeners are helping to determine what's played instead of Top 40 listeners who like the occasional country song. When pop buyers are telling country radio what to play, a world of mess erupts. I've seen callout scores where Luke's song is upwards of 20% to 25% strongly dislikes. You may think that's positive/strong, but I don't because it's the highest on the chart. This is from two weeks ago I think so maybe those numbers have changed, but either way this is a lazy effort from the top name in the industry who can do better but chooses not to. Go ahead and cheer this one to the top guys! While I agree overall that this is a bad song, to say it's faring poorly on the callout surveys is simply...untrue. Bullseye Callout#1 overall ranking (out of 35) 45.5% "Like A Lot" rating (2nd only to "Diamond Rings & Old Barstools") 82% Total Positive rating (highest on the chart) 7% Dislike (only "Drinkin' Town With A Football Problem", "Tonight Looks Good On You", "Wild Child", and "Crushin' It" have lower dislike ratings) 0% Strong Dislike 7% Fatigue When broken down by demo, Luke is doing particularly well with Males 25-34, Females 25-34, Females 45-54, and especially Females 18-24. Bullseye New Music Survey (generally features songs that are below top 30/top 40, or haven't been out that long) #6 overall ranking (out of 20) 37.3% "Like A Lot" rating (highest on New Music survey) 59.8% Total Positive rating (6th highest) 16.9% Neutral rating (lowest on the survey) 10.2% Dislike (6th lowest) 13.1% Strong Dislike (highest strong dislike percentage) ** 0% Fatigue 59.8% "Have Not Heard" Luke has the highest "strongly dislike" score on the New Music survey, but his overall positive scores more than balance it out. RadioFeedback#22 overall ranking (out of 40) 31.5% "Like A Lot" rating 61.3% Total Positive rating 19.5% Neutral rating 9.5% Dislike (about middle of the pack) 9.7% Strong Dislike (6th highest) 17.8% Fatigue (close to average) 15% "Have Not Heard" KTDU has some slightly high dislike scores on some of these surveys (notably RadioFeedback), but they're not high enough to scare off programmers. And besides, the positive scores are for the most part pretty strong. So, couple that with the strong sales, and there's really no reason for radio to not push this into higher rotation. This is one of my most-disliked songs (of all-time), but there are a lot of people who like it, so I guess you and I will just have to resort to changing the station whenever it comes on.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jun 25, 2015 0:30:02 GMT -5
This is a terrible song for sure. I guess we can call this summer: "The Summer of the Worst Sounding Bro Songs".
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Post by matty005 on Jun 25, 2015 13:25:01 GMT -5
This is a terrible song for sure. I guess we can call this summer: "The Summer of the Worst Sounding Bro Songs". That's catchy. Are there even other bro songs out right now?
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jun 25, 2015 15:21:56 GMT -5
Yeah. There's FGL's "Anything Goes" and "Sippin' on Fire", Michael Ray's "Kiss You in the Morning", Dustin Lynch's "One Hell of a Night", Cole Swindell's "Let Me See Ya Girl", Chase Rice's "Gonna Wanna Tonight". I would call Jake Owen's new song "Real Life" Bro Country just cause he sounds really drunk singing that one. Some people might think "We Went" by Randy Houser is Bro Country. Whoever thought that might be crazy.
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Post by Marv on Jun 27, 2015 5:37:40 GMT -5
A Luke Bryan tune or a wretched piece of music by FGL, easily the worst superstar act of any major format of the past 50 years, is bound to go to the top of the charts.
Merit is irrelevant, and lots of us know that, as sickening as the case may be.
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Post by dm2081 on Jun 27, 2015 10:10:33 GMT -5
A Luke Bryan tune or a wretched piece of music by FGL, easily the worst superstar act of any major format of the past 50 years, is bound to go to the top of the charts. Merit is irrelevant, and lots of us know that, as sickening as the case may be. You think Luke Bryan is worse than Lil' Wayne? C'mon now, he's not the WORST. The WORST format superstar wouldn't give us songs like "Roller Coaster", "Do I" and "Drink A Beer".
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jun 27, 2015 22:54:48 GMT -5
I don't think "Real Life" is even remotely "bro" because of its subject matter and unique sound.
However, a unique sound isn't always enough. For instance, I thought "Make Me Wanna" worked for me, because the disco-flavored melody and production made it stand out, even if the lyrics weren't the most original in the world. Whereas "Ready Set Roll" had a "unique" sound, but it was a "unique" that was grating (seriously, why the Microsoft Sam voice?), not at all catchy, and coupled with a very douchey-sounding lead vocal that enhanced, instead of detracted, from the "bro" nature.
That's where I think "Kick the Dust Up" lies. As atrocious as I found "That's My Kind of Night", I have to say that the name-drop of T-Pain and inclusion of a "diamond plated tailgate" (is that really a thing?!) are unique references — even if face palm-worthy — and that it at least had a good, aggressive beat and reasonably catchy melody. (To paraphrase Todd in the Shadows, it's bad, but it's a kind of bad that still has flavor to it.) But "Kick the Dust Up" is just slow, spacey, and synth-y, without any real trace of catchiness in the melody anywhere. On top of that, there isn't even the tiniest flash of bringing something new even to the narrow template of bro-country. Most bro songs, I can find a least one aspect that catches me in some way, whether good or bad, and this doesn't even have that going for it. For that reason, I would hazard to call it even worse than TMKON.
Even with a few recent males trying new things on their current singles (for instance, I feel that Thomas Rhett's latest shows a considerable amount of creative growth) I still think that there will be a song in the very near future from either him, FGL, or some other cornerstone bro which will be the irrefutable killer; the "All Jacked Up" of either that particular artist, bro as a whole, or both. (I went with that since it's the biggest, most abrupt example I can think of where an individual song seemed to be the primary reason in a country singer's overnight fall from grace.)
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Post by samsager3 on Jun 27, 2015 23:00:16 GMT -5
I don't think "Real Life" is even remotely "bro" because of its subject matter and unique sound. However, a unique sound isn't always enough. For instance, I thought "Make Me Wanna" worked for me, because the disco-flavored melody and production made it stand out, even if the lyrics weren't the most original in the world. Whereas "Ready Set Roll" had a "unique" sound, but it was a "unique" that was grating (seriously, why the Microsoft Sam voice?), not at all catchy, and coupled with a very douchey-sounding lead vocal that enhanced, instead of detracted, from the "bro" nature. That's where I think "Kick the Dust Up" lies. As atrocious as I found "That's My Kind of Night", I have to say that the name-drop of T-Pain and inclusion of a "diamond plated tailgate" (is that really a thing?!) are unique references — even if face palm-worthy — and that it at least had a good, aggressive beat and reasonably catchy melody. (To paraphrase Todd in the Shadows, it's bad, but it's a kind of bad that still has flavor to it.) But "Kick the Dust Up" is just slow, spacey, and synth-y, without any real trace of catchiness in the melody anywhere. On top of that, there isn't even the tiniest flash of bringing something new even to the narrow template of bro-country. Most bro songs, I can find a least one aspect that catches me in some way, whether good or bad, and this doesn't even have that going for it. For that reason, I would hazard to call it even worse than TMKON. Even with a few recent males trying new things on their current singles (for instance, I feel that Thomas Rhett's latest shows a considerable amount of creative growth) I still think that there will be a song in the very near future from either him, FGL, or some other cornerstone bro which will be the irrefutable killer; the "All Jacked Up" of either that particular artist, bro as a whole, or both. (I went with that since it's the biggest, most abrupt example I can think of where an individual song seemed to be the primary reason in a country singer's overnight fall from grace.) This reminds me of what donkey did for Jerrold niemanns career lol
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jun 27, 2015 23:19:42 GMT -5
^ Donkey is another great example of a total flameout, which I totally forgot about (thankfully). I'm wondering if Jerrod will ever recover AT ALL from that one.
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Post by :) KUFan on Jun 28, 2015 23:02:56 GMT -5
Here's a new song performed during the VIP concert preceding his show...it's called "Strip it Down" Between this song and "Fast," I think there will be better material on this album. m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y50qnakCdAA
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Post by ethanhunt on Jul 1, 2015 1:11:38 GMT -5
I'm pumped for the album, Luke always delivers a great album and while Crash My Part wasn't quite as stellar as Tailgates and Tanlines or Doing my Thing it was still excellent
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jul 1, 2015 2:19:21 GMT -5
Even my sister hates this song. Hope Luke is serious about having more mature material on his new album.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 7:48:19 GMT -5
Here's a new song performed during the VIP concert preceding his show...it's called "Strip it Down" Between this song and "Fast," I think there will be better material on this album. m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y50qnakCdAAYes, between this and "Fast" it sounds like Luke is making good on his promise to bring it back from "Crash My Party" a little bit. Hoping the production follows suit, as that is really what has been ruining songs lately. By the way, there are now a few videos of "Fast" on Youtube and it sounds great. Sounds like something off one of his first two albums. Really great.
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Post by xy0cmiller6yx on Jul 3, 2015 10:11:14 GMT -5
Fast sounds amazing! Could be my favorite from him in a little while. Its crazy to think how one cd can have two songs from completely opposite sides of the spectrum. But hoping the new CD has more songs like Fast, instead of Kick up the Dust.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 4, 2015 0:50:54 GMT -5
I would love nothing more for Kill the Lights to be like the Sundown Heaven Town record that Tim McGraw gave us: awful lead single that is the standout weakest link on an otherwise solid album. Here's hoping.
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Post by kml567 on Jul 7, 2015 23:53:04 GMT -5
Thinking it will either be Jason Aldean or Blake Shelton My money is on label-mate Karen Fairchild of LBT. Karen recently answered a fan question via Twitter on "Who would you like to duet with in country music?" Little Big Town @littlebigtown Jun 5 .@lukebryanonline - KF Good to see the "surprise" collaboration is finally revealed to the rest of the world. They've been dropping subtle hints for awhile now. Hoping the duet with Karen Fairchild will be the 2nd single and there's plenty of TV promo. It'll create plenty of buzz if it's released to radio on same week of album release. Also excited about Luke's Farm Tour and the special guest opening act. Plenty of young fans will be very excited when news is officially announced, but probably not at Pulse though. ;)
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