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Post by rsmatto on May 18, 2015 10:36:39 GMT -5
Artist:Tyler Farr Song: Withdrawals Label: Columbia Add Date: TBAThe sophomore single from Suffer In Peace will be sent to radio on 5/19. Writers:Josh Kear, Gordie Sampson, Hillary Lindsey Producers:Julian King, Jim Catino
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Post by onebuffalo on May 18, 2015 10:39:25 GMT -5
That should happen when A Guy Walks Out Of A Bar!
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Post by phil1996 on May 18, 2015 10:57:39 GMT -5
This is really, really good. By far my favorite radio single of his, although I could do without the repetition of Withdrawals near the end of the song. I'm expecting this to be a big hit, potential crossover as well.
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Post by bigfan101 on May 18, 2015 11:09:34 GMT -5
100% Agree. Tyler really pushes himself vocally, and I really like this.
Also, this album is SO much better than his last one. Great improvement.
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Post by rsmatto on May 18, 2015 11:19:09 GMT -5
This is really, really good. By far my favorite radio single of his, although I could do without the repetition of Withdrawals near the end of the song. I'm expecting this to be a big hit, potential crossover as well. Yes, I think it could hit pop or even Alternative charts.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on May 18, 2015 11:31:46 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority (again) but this does nothing for me. Much like Mirandas "Smoking & Driking'" There MAY be a decent song under that electronic exterior but I have no interest in finding it.
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Post by rsmatto on May 18, 2015 12:07:39 GMT -5
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Post by George Strait Junkie on May 18, 2015 12:49:36 GMT -5
Really I was afraid of this horrible choice. The worst song on the cd, But it figures it'll fit right in with all the other junk on radio right now. He shoulda released the Title Cut that's the best track on the album.
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Post by matty005 on May 18, 2015 13:01:13 GMT -5
Really I was afraid of this horrible choice. The worst song on the cd, But it figures it'll fit right in with all the other junk on radio right now. He shoulda released the Title Cut that's the best track on the album. Did you listen to the song? I hate calling you out on an opinion, but while I understand you may not love the song, it's hard to call it junk. This is such a well written, COUNTRY song.
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Post by countryfan15 on May 18, 2015 13:28:35 GMT -5
Really I was afraid of this horrible choice. The worst song on the cd, But it figures it'll fit right in with all the other junk on radio right now. He shoulda released the Title Cut that's the best track on the album. Did you listen to the song? I hate calling you out on an opinion, but while I understand you may not love the song, it's hard to call it junk. This is such a well written, COUNTRY song. Going on a limb here but I believe Long live tradtional country is trying to say isn't really that the song itself is junk but the production is maybe? Like Uncle Lumpy said underneath the electronic exterior is probably a really great country song. I for one agree that I don't care for this one but it's mainly the production. Just like with the new songs from Randy Houser,Chris Young and Craig Campbell the production and the rap elemen... oops I mean "Programmed loops" and other pop/hip hop production ruins it for me. Chris Young's song is great lyrically but the production makes me nauseous. I've given up on radio and today's "Country" because it's only further going downhill for the most part. Its like Country is doing this just to fit in and be cool because the stereotype has always been that country isn't cool. Its just frustrating to see my favorite genre be destroyed daily by greedy industry people and radio just to make more money by accommodating to teenagers.
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Post by George Strait Junkie on May 18, 2015 13:28:47 GMT -5
Really I was afraid of this horrible choice. The worst song on the cd, But it figures it'll fit right in with all the other junk on radio right now. He shoulda released the Title Cut that's the best track on the album. Did you listen to the song? I hate calling you out on an opinion, but while I understand you may not love the song, it's hard to call it junk. This is such a well written, COUNTRY song. Yes I listened to it. Sorry but it's not a COUNTRY song at all. But, if you like it awesome. I'm not hatin' on that. I just can't stand this song. Suffer In Peace is a way better song and should be the 2nd single. But, hey its a masterpiece to you And, same ole mainstream non country junk to me and that's ok.
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Post by rsmatto on May 18, 2015 13:50:09 GMT -5
Did you listen to the song? I hate calling you out on an opinion, but while I understand you may not love the song, it's hard to call it junk. This is such a well written, COUNTRY song. Yes I listened to it. Sorry but it's not a COUNTRY song at all. But, if you like it awesome. I'm not hatin' on that. I just can't stand this song. Suffer In Peace is a way better song and should be the 2nd single. But, hey its a masterpiece to you And, same ole mainstream non country junk to me and that's ok. What makes a song "Country" to you? The content of the lyrics, the sound or a combination of both? Just curious (and know it's an often discussed debate).
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 13:51:08 GMT -5
This is THE best song on this album! I have played it like four or five times since seeing this thread, and I'm not the kind to go out of my way to listen to a song not on a CD I own or on the radio. Hope this absolutely smashes on radio for his first #1 song and crosses over, also multi-platinum sales.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 18, 2015 14:31:18 GMT -5
So a guy walks into a bar, orders a drink (whiskey in his water), and then sits there almost 9 months until he gets to #1. After dropping from #1--he goes through withdrawal...as he is not sure why he went to the bar in the first place. "Withdrawls" is the redneck crazy way of spelling "Withdrawals". Love your post. That's how Tyler Farr speaks-with drawls.
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Post by Markus Meyer on May 18, 2015 14:57:07 GMT -5
Love this song, and I think it'll do very well, but I can't help but think that releasing "Damn Good Friends" and riding the momentum from that song into this would have been a better idea. Still, can't complain. Great song.
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Post by George Strait Junkie on May 18, 2015 15:17:49 GMT -5
Yes I listened to it. Sorry but it's not a COUNTRY song at all. But, if you like it awesome. I'm not hatin' on that. I just can't stand this song. Suffer In Peace is a way better song and should be the 2nd single. But, hey its a masterpiece to you And, same ole mainstream non country junk to me and that's ok. What makes a song "Country" to you? The content of the lyrics, the sound or a combination of both? Just curious (and know it's an often discussed debate). It takes both. lyrics have to be written well. This songs lyrics ain't bad but they ain't good either. I don't know what it is. I just can't stand this song. also it has to sound like a country song which means no damn drum loops, autotune, rapping, Bro......... It needs some Fiddle and some Steel wrap great lyrics with that and you have yourself a real country song. You won't get any of that good stuff on mainstream bro radio. So that's why i haven't turned my radio on in 4 or 5 years or i'd go crazy.
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Post by rsmatto on May 18, 2015 15:21:20 GMT -5
^ This song is far from "Bro." But I can see where the production (which is rock-like) would turn someone who loves certain country sounds off. Love this song, and I think it'll do very well, but I can't help but think that releasing "Damn Good Friends" and riding the momentum from that song into this would have been a better idea. Still, can't complain. Great song. Well, given the buzz surrounding this, this will keep momentum going and they can release that one as #3 and close out the album with "Suffer In Peace."
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Post by Web on May 18, 2015 15:26:49 GMT -5
This is really, really good. By far my favorite radio single of his, although I could do without the repetition of Withdrawals near the end of the song. I'm expecting this to be a big hit, potential crossover as well. Yes, I think it could hit pop or even Alternative charts. this won't do anything on Alternative, but it might have a chance on Active/Mainstream Rock considering Zac Brown Band just topped that chart very recently and this song has a somewhat friendly sound to that format. I'm not sure what made me queue this song up initially, but on my first listen it really stood out to me in a way that most country songs haven't recently. I don't claim to be informed enough about the genre to make any generalizations, but I hope this does well and I may check out Farr's album as I've enjoyed both singles from the project.
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Post by trebor on May 18, 2015 15:43:00 GMT -5
Did you listen to the song? I hate calling you out on an opinion, but while I understand you may not love the song, it's hard to call it junk. This is such a well written, COUNTRY song. [... Edited...] I've given up on radio and today's "Country" because it's only further going downhill for the most part. Its like Country is doing this just to fit in and be cool because the stereotype has always been that country isn't cool. Its just frustrating to see my favorite genre be destroyed daily by greedy industry people and radio just to make more money by accommodating to teenagers. I'm sorry that you feel that way and that the same sentiments are shared by others on nearly every second thread. But then again, what does Tyler Farr in general and "Withdrawals" specifically have to do with the alleged downfall of country music. This song features the two most important characteristics of country music: instrumentation and storytelling. But, it comes in a modern guise that reflects the technology and studio abilities available today in a well balanced mix. All the important mainstream music genres are targeted to teenagers; and yes, country is part of it; this is not an invention of modern times and it has always been true since the outset of 45 RPM 7" vinyl and Nielsen scores. Isn't it more of a generational problem? Is it reasonable that the music of the past be the criterion for everything to come in the future? Can evolution be stopped and music be frozen in a void of time; how boring would that be to continuously be living in a musical past. We have crossed the point of no return many years ago, the country music is a business with a capital b which now competes with the reality of Pop/CHR more than ever. One just cannot turn back time; and it's not a bad thing. Either you adapt and expand your market share in the radio landscape or you tank; and country radio is expanding to new grounds which may bring in new conflicts with the existing audience and fans in general alike. I don't listen to country radio either and the music that you are longing to exists out there and there are also radio stations playing incredible stuff; you just have to be curious and venture out a little bit, but you are correct that anything niche and thus potentially toxic will be shun by mass-corporate radio. Despite that 2015 country is pretty fresh and innovative, please believe me that country is in no way felt as being cool. Also, the artists that are under general suspicion here are also the ones that bring in the most revenue which in the end benefits all artists on the label's rosters alike. Sometimes the greater picture is really bigger than its parts.
Sorry guys for this longer piece and mini-rant; and countryfan15 please no offence.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 16:21:46 GMT -5
Maybe this is premature, but I'm excited for country music's future. With recent releases like this and Chris Young's new one I hope that guys are gonna start releasing more substantive material. Even with questionable production, I honestly don't pick up production issues others can, as long as it has strong lyrics it will be better.
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Post by countryfan15 on May 18, 2015 16:25:47 GMT -5
^ No offense taken and I do see what you're trying to say, and yes if country songs were the same form today as they were 20 years ago it would possibly get boring.But for the past few years hasn't 85% of them been about trucks, partying and drowned out with the loud instrumentation? I don't want every country song to be sad or heartbreaking because there is room for all types. Yes there are still several songs that get played like Eric Paisley's "She Don't Love You " and Jake Owen's "What We Ain't Got" but they stalled in the teens. I'm not saying evolution of a genre is bad except when I cut on the radio and have to check to see if I have a country or pop station playing. There are genre's for everybody's taste and each genre has upbeat and slow songs. I enjoy country because it tells a story and has the steel guitar or fiddle to help drive the emotion behind it. I think country could continue to grow without taking away what it has been for over 80 + years, That's a long time to succeed as a genre of being country without changing drastically to appeal to others. I've always heard the saying "If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It".
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Post by rsmatto on May 18, 2015 17:44:49 GMT -5
^ No offense taken and I do see what you're trying to say, and yes if country songs were the same form today as they were 20 years ago it would possibly get boring.But for the past few years hasn't 85% of them been about trucks, partying and drowned out with the loud instrumentation? I don't want every country song to be sad or heartbreaking because there is room for all types. Yes there are still several songs that get played like Eric Paisley's "She Don't Love You " and Jake Owen's "What We Ain't Got" but they stalled in the teens. I'm not saying evolution of a genre is bad except when I cut on the radio and have to check to see if I have a country or pop station playing. There are genre's for everybody's taste and each genre has upbeat and slow songs. I enjoy country because it tells a story and has the steel guitar or fiddle to help drive the emotion behind it. I think country could continue to grow without taking away what it has been for over 80 + years, That's a long time to succeed as a genre of being country without changing drastically to appeal to others. I've always heard the saying "If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It". But some of the best country artists of all time rarely used or use fiddles or steel guitars. And the mainstream, it has, in general, NOT lost what it had all those 80+ years and Nashville has ALWAYS chased the sounds of other genres, typically the sounds the artists grew up listening to along with their country music. Country's biggest problem may be the tighter playlists that follow a pop radio approach in that the Top 10-20 records will get played a massive amount with the Top 5 getting more spins than the #11-20 combined. Until they open up airplay playlists and realize that "truck songs" or what folks perceive as "bro" songs (But they really aren't, case in point: "Withdrawals"). People are looking for more substantial lyrics and you can see the tide turning with this single, Kelsea Ballerini's record is loaded with catchy country/pop and strong lyrics. Actually, I think the Nashville writers are finally getting some of their gems recorded now that pop seems to be having a more substantial market full of songs with stronger lyrics (often lead by Max Martin and company). I think Country's in a good place, musically and with a few more chances, radio could be right there with it and bring even more fans in.
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Post by dm2081 on May 18, 2015 19:07:39 GMT -5
This is a fantastic song, and should do well on the charts (I hope at least). But I agree with Markus Meyer that I'd switch the order up, and would have saved this for 3rd single and release "Damn Good Friends" right now. I could see this one struggling a bit early on over summer, whereas DGF would have a much quicker climb riding Jason's coattails. I'll definitely be rooting for this one though.
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Post by sabre14 on May 19, 2015 15:56:58 GMT -5
Impact date is June 15th. Source: Play Mpe Also, there were two tracks (versions) sent to radio today.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 20, 2015 2:00:33 GMT -5
This is.... tolerable. Like "Whiskey in My Water," I think this suits his limitations as a vocalist because he doesn't sound totally awful on this. Still, it's a pretty average song that had the potential to be incredible in the hands of someone like Chris Young or Josh Turner who could've really elevated it to that next level, imo. And I find the mention of crossover potential with this pretty funny, because I can't see Tyler Farr getting any airplay outside of country.
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Post by bboat11 on May 20, 2015 2:15:06 GMT -5
Finally gave this a listen. And I am definitely on board! At first I was not sure about the production, but then I did really love the chorus even though it was so "loud." Some will definitely call it overproduced, but I felt like it was perfect for the subject matter of the song. I do agree that I would love to see what some other vocalists could do with this song, but mostly just out of curiosity because I do think Tyler's voice is fantastic for this song. I cannot wait to hear this on the radio!
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Post by kw9461 on May 24, 2015 0:01:22 GMT -5
Well, he doesn't sound like nails on a chalkboard on this, so I guess that's progress. I just don't get the love for this. Lyrically the song seems fine and he makes the most of his vocal limitations, but I find this to be just an overproduced mess. Everyone seems to think it'll be a hit, so I guess it will (I've given up on my "hit" instinct with Kelsea Ballerini and Canaan Smith approaching the top 10). I just hope he releases the title track, THAT is an incredible country song
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on May 24, 2015 1:42:38 GMT -5
^ Absolutely! The title track is the only song on the project that does anything for me.
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Post by LBTrocks on May 24, 2015 4:50:50 GMT -5
Love the song.... but not his vocals. Would much prefer it if someone else sang this, someone with the vocal chops to do it justice. Tyler Farr is an incredibly weak singer IMO. I might still listen to this every now and then because the song is so good, but like the rest of Farr's material, I'm in no rush to go out and buy it. And I have no desire to hear him perform this live, as every live vocal I've heard from him has been really bad.
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Post by Kentucky25 on May 24, 2015 16:37:16 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I really don't get the weak vocalist comments for Farr. I mean, I would consider many other Country singer's voices to be weak (of course I do not know in the sense of technique, but when has Country been about technically sound vocalists?). To me, if the lyrics are good, then I am not going to get very worked up over who is singing it.
To clarify, I actually really like his voice and I see a lot of similarities between him and Matt Kennon, both of which have a lot of "raspiness", but I like it, especially for songs with this (and Suffer in Peace's) lyrical content.
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