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Post by layne on May 26, 2015 20:12:16 GMT -5
I'm not much of a Jake Owen fan, so it's no surprise I think this sounds like a train wreck and just as I thought it sounds like he's just dying to follow in Sam Hunt's footsteps. The Males in Country Music are all about following trends and copying sounds.
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Post by slowmo on May 26, 2015 20:36:26 GMT -5
hmm, not sure exactly what I think of this song yet. Jake is very hit or miss with me and right now this is right in the middle after a couple listens. Even if I hadn't know prior to listening to it that Shane co-wrote it, it would've been easy to figure out. There's a very distinct "voice" and style in most of the songs he has a hand in writing and this one is no different. He's one of my favorite writers over the last so many years, however I'm not sold on his producing just yet, outside of his work with Kacey. Don't like his work with Old Dominion? I find Shane's production skill to be among the best of the new ones (along with co-producer Ross Copperman, who produced Dierks record. I hadn't listened to them yet beyond their single but did when you mentioned them. I'll add "and Old Dominion" after Kacey. lol I just said I wasn't sold on him yet as a producer although I do like him getting more and more into it.
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Post by kw9461 on May 26, 2015 20:50:07 GMT -5
This sounds like a song you would hear on a tv commercial. It's catchy, not terribly overproduced, and I find myself enjoying it, but it's the kind of music I would never go out of my way to listen to. This is akin to dressing your dog up as a cow and entering it in the county fair. In that setting everyone would look at you like you were crazy, but yet we're supposed to pretend it's perfectly normal that "country" radio is going to play this? I like Jake a great deal, but there isn't one shred of country music on this track and it's downright disgraceful that country radio is going to play it anyway. They are absolutely killing this great genre. This feels like a Sugar Ray song. Which shouldn't be a surprise given his "Beachin'" history. That being said. it's a well-written, ear worm that may be my new favorite "for fun" summer song. I don't think this is "over produced" in the slightest. Especially compared to the production of Jake's previous two albums. I can hear McAnally and Copperman's production skill in these. While I love a simple, acoustic producition like the rest of us, I also have never minded songs like this. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not looking for acoustic production. I'm looking for a country melody and some semblance of country instrumentation. We've seen recent examples that have been quite successful (American Kids, Loving You Easy both come to mind), but the new format stars seem to be running as far from that as possible.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 21:16:44 GMT -5
Well Jake released my favorite song of his with "What We Ain't Got" and he follows it up with my least favorite song of his...... So much for deeper songs on his new album, I seriously hope this song isn't an indication of what his album will be like.
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Post by matty005 on May 26, 2015 21:33:49 GMT -5
Well Jake released my favorite song of his with "What We Ain't Got" and he follows it up with my least favorite song of his...... So much for deeper songs on his new album, I seriously hope this song isn't an indication of what his album will be like. Not signaling you out, because a lot of people are making this point, but people keep saying they're hoping for deeper songs. But is this that far off from being a deep song? It's a song about real life. Things aren't perfect, yet you find a way to deal and you try to have fun when you can. I'm not saying it's a deep song like, "Whiskey Lullaby" or anything, but these lyrics: "We find real love, get real hurt Fall real hard, shake off the dirt " Are pretty damn good and relatable. It's a deep song to me that is still relatable. I love deep songs. I love fun songs. I don't want all fun songs to be about drinking. I don't want all deep songs having to be about killing yourself. I am perfectly happy with this medium.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 21:50:14 GMT -5
Well Jake released my favorite song of his with "What We Ain't Got" and he follows it up with my least favorite song of his...... So much for deeper songs on his new album, I seriously hope this song isn't an indication of what his album will be like. Not signaling you out, because a lot of people are making this point, but people keep saying they're hoping for deeper songs. But is this that far off from being a deep song? It's a song about real life. Things aren't perfect, yet you find a way to deal and you try to have fun when you can. I'm not saying it's a deep song like, "Whiskey Lullaby" or anything, but these lyrics: "We find real love, get real hurt Fall real hard, shake off the dirt " Are pretty damn good and relatable. It's a deep song to me that is still relatable. I love deep songs. I love fun songs. I don't want all fun songs to be about drinking. I don't want all deep songs having to be about killing yourself. I am perfectly happy with this medium. Yeah, deep songs vary from person to person, I personally don't see this as one, however I can see why some people would think of it as deep. Not all deep songs for me are about killing yourself as you said, "What We Ain't Got" was a deep song that held a very strong relatable message. Its not even the lyrics that bother me, its the rapping in the verses that just instantly turn me off.
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Post by matty005 on May 26, 2015 21:58:57 GMT -5
Not signaling you out, because a lot of people are making this point, but people keep saying they're hoping for deeper songs. But is this that far off from being a deep song? It's a song about real life. Things aren't perfect, yet you find a way to deal and you try to have fun when you can. I'm not saying it's a deep song like, "Whiskey Lullaby" or anything, but these lyrics: "We find real love, get real hurt Fall real hard, shake off the dirt " Are pretty damn good and relatable. It's a deep song to me that is still relatable. I love deep songs. I love fun songs. I don't want all fun songs to be about drinking. I don't want all deep songs having to be about killing yourself. I am perfectly happy with this medium. Yeah, deep songs vary from person to person, I personally don't see this as one, however I can see why some people would think of it as deep. Not all deep songs for me are about killing yourself as you said, "What We Ain't Got" was a deep song that held a very strong relatable message. Its not even the lyrics that bother me, its the rapping in the verses that just instantly turn me off. I am not saying all deep songs need to be about killing yourself. I am saying that I don't want all deep songs being THAT deep. Some are great. But just like too many fun songs about drinking get to be too much, it would be too much if every deep song was as deep as, "What We Ain't Got." I am not saying this is a very deep song. But it's also not a go out and get drunk fun song. I feel like it's a good medium so I don't get why people are counting him off after one single and saying things like, "well, so much for deep songs." As brilliant as "WWAG" was, another deep song of that manner, would not have been a good idea to release.
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Post by countrymusic20 on May 26, 2015 21:59:25 GMT -5
This gets a "meh" from me. I was really excited to hear what Shane Mac and Copperman would do with Jake production wise. I think the production is pretty average. I read in an interview that Jake said he told Shane and Ross the kind of song he wanted and they went and wrote it (with Gorley and Osbourne) and brought it back to Jake - so Jake feels like he has a big part in the song. Well - what did Jake tell them he wanted? Sounds like he said I want a song that's kind of a cross between Beachin and American Kids. IMO the spoken verses sound WAY too much like Beachin'. In general - i'm kind of disappointed that 4 writers of this caliber got together and this is the best they could do with this idea. I think it has a decent chance of reaching the top of the chart because of its radio friendliness and being a first single it will get the record label's full force push. But overall - I don't think this song will help Jake's career momentum much at all. #disappointed
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 27, 2015 2:55:59 GMT -5
Oh wow, this is pretty awful. Even worse than "Beachin'" honestly, and I despised that tune, but at least that one had a decent chorus to kind of off-set the atrocious verses, whereas this one has awful verses AND an awful chorus. Seriously, the chorus melody is not good at all and his vocals on it are surprisingly terrible, especially on the word "real," which just initiates a fingernails-on-chalkboard kind of response out of me each time. And the verses are the typical drunken slur-type rap we got from "Red Solo Cup," but without all of the obvious comedic intent behind that song, it makes this all the more worse (at least Toby Keith was not taking himself seriously at all with that song, but clearly Jake here is *shudders*). What a shame that the guy who delivered such a powerful and stunning song and vocal performance with "What We Ain't Got" has done a complete 180 and is releasing this instead. I really hope this pulls a "Days of Gold" and flames out shy of being a big hit, because man, this just isn't good at all. I'm dreading the thought of this being a big hit. And as an aside, I'm tired of all the "but country music done always had them talkin' songs don'tchaknow?!" argument, because anyone saying that in defense of this kind of music knows good and well that this is not comparable to the stuff the legends and the like put out back in the day. It's honestly almost insulting in a way. George Strait put out a great song a few years ago with a significant talking part in "I'll Always Remember You," and THAT is exactly the kind of song that recalls the country music history of 'talking songs.' This recalls drunken rock band karaoke.
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Post by LBTrocks on May 27, 2015 3:43:22 GMT -5
This song is intriguing... but so very bad. I want to like it, but Jake really does sound like he's drunk here. It's annoying. Anyone could "sing" this. The production is interesting enough and the song is catchy, but this is an album cut at best, not single material. I could accept the song better for what it is if: A) It was just a silly, pointless album track and B) It wasn't the follow-up to a song as beautiful and meaningful as "What We Ain't Got" is. Don't really want to see this do well because we don't need songs like this cluttering up a genre that's already in a less-than-stellar state.
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Post by ethanhunt on May 27, 2015 5:49:30 GMT -5
Oh wow, this is pretty awful. Even worse than "Beachin'" honestly, and I despised that tune, but at least that one had a decent chorus to kind of off-set the atrocious verses, whereas this one has awful verses AND an awful chorus. Seriously, the chorus melody is not good at all and his vocals on it are surprisingly terrible, especially on the word "real," which just initiates a fingernails-on-chalkboard kind of response out of me each time. And the verses are the typical drunken slur-type rap we got from "Red Solo Cup," but without all of the obvious comedic intent behind that song, it makes this all the more worse (at least Toby Keith was not taking himself seriously at all with that song, but clearly Jake here is *shudders*). What a shame that the guy who delivered such a powerful and stunning song and vocal performance with "What We Ain't Got" has done a complete 180 and is releasing this instead. I really hope this pulls a "Days of Gold" and flames out shy of being a big hit, because man, this just isn't good at all. I'm dreading the thought of this being a big hit. And as an aside, I'm tired of all the "but country music done always had them talkin' songs don'tchaknow?!" argument, because anyone saying that in defense of this kind of music knows good and well that this is not comparable to the stuff the legends and the like put out back in the day. It's honestly almost insulting in a way. George Strait put out a great song a few years ago with a significant talking part in "I'll Always Remember You," and THAT is exactly the kind of song that recalls the country music history of 'talking songs.' This recalls drunken rock band karaoke. I think the poor singing in the chorus is done intentionally and is used to kind of exemplify the theme of the song.
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Post by trebor on May 27, 2015 8:41:58 GMT -5
[...Edited ...] This recalls drunken rock band karaoke. Just brilliant! ROFL
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on May 27, 2015 11:55:26 GMT -5
What Drugs was he on when recording this. This is just not good. This song is not REAL Life and especially Not REAL COUNTRY.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 27, 2015 12:35:18 GMT -5
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Post by matty005 on May 27, 2015 13:40:41 GMT -5
What Drugs was he on when recording this. This is just not good. This song is not REAL Life and especially Not REAL COUNTRY. Might not be real life for you, but not everyone experiences the same life as you do. Many people (myself included) do consider this real life.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on May 27, 2015 13:53:14 GMT -5
What Drugs was he on when recording this. This is just not good. This song is not REAL Life and especially Not REAL COUNTRY. Might not be real life for you, but not everyone experiences the same life as you do. Many people (myself included) do consider this real life. You are very right :) We all experience a different life and all have different experiences. so my first part of that last statement is false and I probably should have thought of something wittier and more true. This though to me is definitely not Country music that I want to hear on the radio.. Thanks for calling my statement out its definitely wrong. Im honestly disappointed he wants to release music like this.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on May 27, 2015 13:59:24 GMT -5
While we could certainly split hairs and say ANY song is "Real Life" to somebody (Maybe Jerrod Niemann really did ride his Donkey to the Honky honky tonk). That's all it really is, split hairs. Most people and especially artists should have enough life experiences by the time they are in their mid 30's to sing about something more substantial then their neighbors pool and the Waffle House.
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Post by Dustin J. on May 27, 2015 14:44:40 GMT -5
Mockingbird Sun's "Real Life" > Jake Owen's "Real Life"
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Post by trebor on May 27, 2015 15:29:18 GMT -5
Mockingbird Sun's " Real Life" > Jake Owen's "Real Life" Awesome song! :) Thanks, Dustin! Great pick.
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Post by sabre14 on May 27, 2015 15:30:50 GMT -5
Mockingbird Sun's " Real Life" > Jake Owen's "Real Life" Awesome song! :) Thanks, Dustin! Great pick. Jeff Carson's "Real Life" >>>>>>>>>>>> Jake Owen's "Real Life". Vastly different songs though, lol.
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Post by trebor on May 27, 2015 15:34:23 GMT -5
Awesome song! :) Thanks, Dustin! Great pick. Jeff Carson's "Real Life" >>>>>>>>>>>> Jake Owen's "Real Life". Vastly different songs though, lol. Obviously, Jeff Carson's "Real Life (I Never Was The Same Again)" is the best of them all! Forgot about this one! The piano is so good on here; getting all nostalgic again :)
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Post by dm2081 on May 27, 2015 16:40:18 GMT -5
While we could certainly split hairs and say ANY song is "Real Life" to somebody (Maybe Jerrod Niemann really did ride his Donkey to the Honky honky tonk). That's all it really is, split hairs. Most people and especially artists should have enough life experiences by the time they are in their mid 30's to sing about something more substantial then their neighbors pool and the Waffle House. I'm not singling you out here because others have echoed your sentiments, but I don't see why everyone is so bummed about one single not being about a deeper subject matter (which for most on pulse usually includes darker material or more sentimental/sad). It's a lead single in the summer time, there's no way it was going to be a ballad or slower. That would have been a death wish. Jake will and always has had strong ballads and story songs on every album, and him releasing this one lead single doesn't imply that he has nothing else to sing about. I guess what I'm saying is everyone already seems to be acting like the album is out and every song is this exact same style. He's following up a slow and sad ballad, so it made sense to release something not as deep and more light hearted.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on May 27, 2015 17:10:54 GMT -5
While we could certainly split hairs and say ANY song is "Real Life" to somebody (Maybe Jerrod Niemann really did ride his Donkey to the Honky honky tonk). That's all it really is, split hairs. Most people and especially artists should have enough life experiences by the time they are in their mid 30's to sing about something more substantial then their neighbors pool and the Waffle House. I'm not singling you out here because others have echoed your sentiments, but I don't see why everyone is so bummed about one single not being about a deeper subject matter (which for most on pulse usually includes darker material or more sentimental/sad). It's a lead single in the summer time, there's no way it was going to be a ballad or slower. That would have been a death wish. Jake will and always has had strong ballads and story songs on every album, and him releasing this one lead single doesn't imply that he has nothing else to sing about. I guess what I'm saying is everyone already seems to be acting like the album is out and every song is this exact same style. He's following up a slow and sad ballad, so it made sense to release something not as deep and more light hearted. I really want to like Jake. I haven't givin up on him yet but the way he talks out of both sides of his mouth is bordering on hypocritical at this point. I know every song can't be a "What We Aint Got" , nor would I want them to be... but this is pretty bad. I'm so over this pseudo-rap trend. And sure miss the days when country was the one genre I could rely on to avoid it. This isn't "Beachin" bad to me , but its a close second. Hes been quoted as wanting more substance to return to the format. And I guess you could say this borderline deeper lyrics than your average Florida Georgia Line fare, but not by much. It certainly doesn't help his credibility to turn around and profit from the very kind of song he says we need to move away from. I'm not discussing the album we haven't heard yet. I was simply commenting on the single and its lack of quality (to my ears).
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Post by matty005 on May 27, 2015 17:36:40 GMT -5
I'm not singling you out here because others have echoed your sentiments, but I don't see why everyone is so bummed about one single not being about a deeper subject matter (which for most on pulse usually includes darker material or more sentimental/sad). It's a lead single in the summer time, there's no way it was going to be a ballad or slower. That would have been a death wish. Jake will and always has had strong ballads and story songs on every album, and him releasing this one lead single doesn't imply that he has nothing else to sing about. I guess what I'm saying is everyone already seems to be acting like the album is out and every song is this exact same style. He's following up a slow and sad ballad, so it made sense to release something not as deep and more light hearted. I really want to like Jake. I haven't givin up on him yet but the way he talks out of both sides of his mouth is bordering on hypocritical at this point. I know every song can't be a "What We Aint Got" , nor would I want them to be... but this is pretty bad. I'm so over this pseudo-rap trend. And sure miss the days when country was the one genre I could rely on to avoid it. This isn't "Beachin" bad to me , but its a close second. Hes been quoted as wanting more substance to return to the format. And I guess you could say this borderline deeper lyrics than your average Florida Georgia Line fare, but not by much. It certainly doesn't help his credibility to turn around and profit from the very kind of song he says we need to move away from. I'm not discussing the album we haven't heard yet. I was simply commenting on the single and its lack of quality (to my ears). To me, this song has more substance than his last lead single, so I think he's still correct in his statement.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 27, 2015 17:48:16 GMT -5
People are getting a tad too hung up on the deepness of this song or lack thereof, I'd say. Honestly, I didn't anticipate anything on par with "What We Ain't Got" from his next lead single, nor did I want him to go that route (he ain't going to get hits if all he releases is super dark material like that). That said, "Barefoot Blue Jean Night" was super fluffy summertime radio fodder that worked. This... sounds like crap, and I think it ultimately fails as a song on multiple fronts beyond just being a 'shallow' lyric. The fact that Jake Owen is being hypocritical about what he wants out of the future of country radio while recording and releasing music like this only makes the whole situation a lot harder to understand and harder to sympathize with him. Plenty of artists release light up-tempo songs that are much, much better than this and well within the confines of country music. He could've released something akin to "Runnin' Outta Moonlight" or "Sunshine & Whiskey" or "See You Tonight" for a few examples, and I'm sure that next to one would be complaining about the depth of the material.
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Post by dm2081 on May 27, 2015 18:24:02 GMT -5
People are getting a tad too hung up on the deepness of this song or lack thereof, I'd say. Honestly, I didn't anticipate anything on par with "What We Ain't Got" from his next lead single, nor did I want him to go that route (he ain't going to get hits if all he releases is super dark material like that). That said, "Barefoot Blue Jean Night" was super fluffy summertime radio fodder that worked. This... sounds like crap, and I think it ultimately fails as a song on multiple fronts beyond just being a 'shallow' lyric. The fact that Jake Owen is being hypocritical about what he wants out of the future of country radio while recording and releasing music like this only makes the whole situation a lot harder to understand and harder to sympathize with him. Plenty of artists release light up-tempo songs that are much, much better than this and well within the confines of country music. He could've released something akin to "Runnin' Outta Moonlight" or "Sunshine & Whiskey" or "See You Tonight" for a few examples, and I'm sure that next to one would be complaining about the depth of the material. Sure, he could have released something similar to one of those songs you mentioned, but then many would be on here blasting him for recording another retread bland song that's already been done before. Even if your not a fan of this song, you have to admit it sounds different from anything else being released. While this is an upbeat summer type of song, he still is taking a minor risk here with this song, much like he did with "Days of Gold". The lyrics are a little more unique on this one (mostly the verses), the production is unique, and the way it's sung is unique. I'm not trying to force anybody to like this song, but let's all be honest about something, that this is not another carbon copy cup/truck song and it does aim to be original, wether people like it or not.
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Post by Kat5Kind on May 27, 2015 18:31:24 GMT -5
People always find SOMETHING to complain about. First it was about how everything sounds the same. Now (even though it's original) it seems like you're almost resisting the change. This doesn't aim to be a "deep" song, it aims to be a summertime song with slightly stronger lyrics. I don't think it's a bad song for what it is.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 27, 2015 18:58:22 GMT -5
People are getting a tad too hung up on the deepness of this song or lack thereof, I'd say. Honestly, I didn't anticipate anything on par with "What We Ain't Got" from his next lead single, nor did I want him to go that route (he ain't going to get hits if all he releases is super dark material like that). That said, "Barefoot Blue Jean Night" was super fluffy summertime radio fodder that worked. This... sounds like crap, and I think it ultimately fails as a song on multiple fronts beyond just being a 'shallow' lyric. The fact that Jake Owen is being hypocritical about what he wants out of the future of country radio while recording and releasing music like this only makes the whole situation a lot harder to understand and harder to sympathize with him. Plenty of artists release light up-tempo songs that are much, much better than this and well within the confines of country music. He could've released something akin to "Runnin' Outta Moonlight" or "Sunshine & Whiskey" or "See You Tonight" for a few examples, and I'm sure that next to one would be complaining about the depth of the material. Sure, he could have released something similar to one of those songs you mentioned, but then many would be on here blasting him for recording another retread bland song that's already been done before. Even if your not a fan of this song, you have to admit it sounds different from anything else being released. While this is an upbeat summer type of song, he still is taking a minor risk here with this song, much like he did with "Days of Gold". The lyrics are a little more unique on this one (mostly the verses), the production is unique, and the way it's sung is unique. I'm not trying to force anybody to like this song, but let's all be honest about something, that this is not another carbon copy cup/truck song and it does aim to be original, wether people like it or not. Those three songs I listed are all different enough from one another despite all being feel-good summery-type songs, and all cover common topics/themes in country music that continue to be present and always will be, and every single one of them sounds country and I would find no fault in a Jake Owen lead single sounding like any of those three. In fact, I'd be quite happy with a song that came close to the quality and sound from any of those tracks, and if it were a well-done song, I would not be writing it off as a carbon-copy. And I'm not sure why you feel the need to stress the unique-ness of this track to me, because I am fully aware of how it sticks out and admit that, and for me, that's entirely the problem with it. Sure, standing out from the crowd is a good thing, but not when it's a case of making a song so off-the-wall that it sounds completely unwelcome in the genre it's supposed to be representing. The unique lyrics to me are weak, underdeveloped and just plain uninteresting. There has to be more that could be said in a song about 'real life' tan to say you had green grass, your neighbor's had a pool, and that your waitress has undisclosed problems. The production is different, but I wouldn't call that an asset to this song at all, especially since it lacks any semblance of country music, and performing the song like a drunk karaoke singer doesn't strike me as a bold statement of sorts. Unique yes, but uniquely bad, imo. When I hear this, not only am I turned off, but my mind instantly recalls "Red Solo Cup" because of the way he sings this. "Barefoot Blue Jean Night" was nothing particularly 'new' to the format lyrically, but I don't listen to it and instantly think of another song, so I would almost wager that it is actually more unique because it brought something familiar and put a different spin on it that worked. I don't get anything from this that says Jake Owen was trying to be a visionary or adventurous; I just get clumsy and mis-guided from it.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 28, 2015 11:18:27 GMT -5
Nice pickup for Jake Owen:
HUNTER HAYES 21 53 1057 JAKE OWEN Real Life 55 996 SAM HUNT House Party 5 85 LUKE BRYAN Kick The Dust Up 6 73 CHRIS JANSON Buy Me A Boat 4 59
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Post by nncountrykid on May 28, 2015 13:48:58 GMT -5
Part of me really doesn't want to like this, but I can't help myself.
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