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Post by musicbuff26 on Jan 16, 2016 10:26:01 GMT -5
Not to cheer with champagne, but at least it's charting on itunes (number 1470) Woohoo! Small victories! I doubt this does much more, but I would love to be proven wrong.
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Post by path on Jan 16, 2016 20:46:38 GMT -5
Not to cheer with champagne, but at least it's charting on itunes (number 1470) Woohoo! Small victories! I doubt this does much more, but I would love to be proven wrong. It should be 42 on tomorrow's published chart!
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 17, 2016 7:17:56 GMT -5
POP: 44 46 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 898 944 -46 1.961
-15 Spins -13 Bullet -0.098 Audience
HOT AC: 26 26 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 1128 1031 97 3.922
+7 Spins -27 Bullet +0.102 Audience
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Post by graffeodl on Jan 18, 2016 6:58:15 GMT -5
PUBLISHED CHARTS
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POP: 44 42 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 898 944 -46 1.961
HAC: 26 25 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 1128 1031 97 3.922
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 18, 2016 7:07:41 GMT -5
Yeah I think this song is toast on radio. :'(
POP: 44 43 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 873 957 -84 1.865
-25 Spins -38 Bullet -0.096 Audience
HOT AC: 26 25 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 1148 1066 82 4.051
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 19, 2016 7:05:42 GMT -5
Oh.
POP: 44 43 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 880 938 -58 1.908
+7 Spins +26 Bullet +0.043 Audience
HOT AC: 25 25 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 1156 1083 73 4.000
+8 Spins -9 Bullet -0.051 Audience
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 20, 2016 7:04:44 GMT -5
I take that back. Radio is screwing this over.
POP: 46 44 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 847 943 -96 1.765
-33 Spins -38 Bullet -0.143 Audience
HOT AC: 25 25 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 1168 1096 72 4.193
+12 Spins -1 Bullet +0.193 Audience
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Post by graffeodl on Jan 20, 2016 8:22:32 GMT -5
Several of the stations that he did Christmas shows for who were high spinners look like they are completely dropping the song. Wilkes-Barre dropped half its spins in one week, McAllen the same and now Buffalo as well. All of the large decreases showing on the leaders chart were stations he did radio shows for. I sometimes get the feeling that he doesn't quite jump through the hoops that they want so they give him enough support to not be criticized but then pull back. It's never really anything you can pinpoint and there are always rationalizations that can be made. They seem to jump on board heavily when they can get something out of him but then poof. Do they do the same with other artists? Book them for their shows and then drop the songs right after? There have also been stations that would spin his song right up until he did an interview and then drop them the next day (last era).
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Post by jimmyt on Jan 20, 2016 13:12:38 GMT -5
Several of the stations that he did Christmas shows for who were high spinners look like they are completely dropping the song. Wilkes-Barre dropped half its spins in one week, McAllen the same and now Buffalo as well. All of the large decreases showing on the leaders chart were stations he did radio shows for. I sometimes get the feeling that he doesn't quite jump through the hoops that they want so they give him enough support to not be criticized but then pull back. It's never really anything you can pinpoint and there are always rationalizations that can be made. They seem to jump on board heavily when they can get something out of him but then poof. Do they do the same with other artists? Book them for their shows and then drop the songs right after? There have also been stations that would spin his song right up until he did an interview and then drop them the next day (last era). You dont really think they single Adam Lambert out for 'special negative treatment' do you? In the end the song has been spun pretty well by radio given it's barely been popular enough to break the iTunes top 1500 for weeks on end. If anything radio has supported it more than it deserves and have positively supported him this era!
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They seem to jump on board heavily when they can get something out of him but then poof. Do they do the same with other artists? Book them for their shows and then drop the songs right after? We had a Dance music format radio station in San Francisco in the mid 2000s that did that exact thing. They would add the song a month or two before the show happened, play it for about a month after it happened, but much less, then drop it altogether. I had talked to a couple of the DJs on the phone and they basically said that most if not all of those songs were ones that they would not have added but had to if they wanted those artists for their show (those artists had other hits from before that they still played, but just not those new singles). They also gave the reason that those songs just didn't test well and they were afraid of losing their listeners to another station when those songs came on.
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 20, 2016 16:10:25 GMT -5
Several of the stations that he did Christmas shows for who were high spinners look like they are completely dropping the song. Wilkes-Barre dropped half its spins in one week, McAllen the same and now Buffalo as well. All of the large decreases showing on the leaders chart were stations he did radio shows for. I sometimes get the feeling that he doesn't quite jump through the hoops that they want so they give him enough support to not be criticized but then pull back. It's never really anything you can pinpoint and there are always rationalizations that can be made. They seem to jump on board heavily when they can get something out of him but then poof. Do they do the same with other artists? Book them for their shows and then drop the songs right after? There have also been stations that would spin his song right up until he did an interview and then drop them the next day (last era). You dont really think they single Adam Lambert out for 'special negative treatment' do you? In the end the song has been spun pretty well by radio given it's barely been popular enough to break the iTunes top 1500 for weeks on end. If anything radio has supported it more than it deserves and have positively supported him this era! Sorry but no. Support is not having a less than 3 million audience. I buy the fact that the song was not an itunes success by any means, but there are songs that cracked into top 30 on pop without being top 300 on itunes, so this is not a case of radio rooting for a song that didn't connect with an audience, it's simply a case of a radio giving spins to the follow up to a quite decent previous hit. The faliure is of course not radio's fault (in fact if his label wants it won't be that difficult to give this song a second run). The truth is Adam is not focusing on the USA at all, his money comes from other places, and to have a decent hit in the USA he needs to do a lot more than he is doing right now. His label is treating way better than the previous ones, and i agree radio is not reluctant to play his songs like it was the previous era, but they need a perfect timing, tv performances and more promo to make it a success, and probably it's not going to happen
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Post by graffeodl on Jan 20, 2016 19:10:08 GMT -5
Several of the stations that he did Christmas shows for who were high spinners look like they are completely dropping the song. Wilkes-Barre dropped half its spins in one week, McAllen the same and now Buffalo as well. All of the large decreases showing on the leaders chart were stations he did radio shows for. I sometimes get the feeling that he doesn't quite jump through the hoops that they want so they give him enough support to not be criticized but then pull back. It's never really anything you can pinpoint and there are always rationalizations that can be made. They seem to jump on board heavily when they can get something out of him but then poof. Do they do the same with other artists? Book them for their shows and then drop the songs right after? There have also been stations that would spin his song right up until he did an interview and then drop them the next day (last era). You dont really think they single Adam Lambert out for 'special negative treatment' do you? In the end the song has been spun pretty well by radio given it's barely been popular enough to break the iTunes top 1500 for weeks on end. If anything radio has supported it more than it deserves and have positively supported him this era! That's why I asked if this is common for other artists. Like I said it's just a feeling I get occasionally and since I don't follow other artists it's hard for me to see whether something is off or not.
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Post by popbox on Jan 20, 2016 19:11:45 GMT -5
Finally heard it on the radio and it sounded amazing. It is a damn shame if this isn't going to do anything. I just don't understand this era. It should be huge, the hits are all over the place. Why aren't radio/people biting?
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Post by missgenericnickname on Jan 20, 2016 19:22:33 GMT -5
I've never listened to this(at least not yet),but how come this is completely floping?That's also why I'm confused how Adam got top AI earner for 2015 with 2 flopped singles....
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Post by keepitreal on Jan 20, 2016 21:56:02 GMT -5
I've never listened to this(at least not yet),but how come this is completely floping? That's also why I'm confused how Adam got top AI earner for 2015 with 2 flopped singles....Most artists make their money on touring not on single/album sales. By the time the label take back all the money they spent on promoting a single the artist see very little $$$. GT went top 20 in the US and it did very well outside the US. The song has 110 million streams also so the label is making money of it. Getting back to ALN I felt this song was a bad 2nd choice single. It's unremarkably forgettable. They released the TOH single in Australia which is doing much better than ALN. If it was up to me I would have went with GT/ Evil in the Night or Underground/Rumors. I know his fans want TOH released next but I'm afraid after the poor performance of ALN the buzz and momentum of a 3rd single is gone. The last thing he needs is to end the era with 2nd and 3rd flop singles. He should end the era and finish out his tour. He's going to be filming the Rocky Horror Show and doing summer festival tours with Queen so he's still going to be very busy after his tour.
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Post by graffeodl on Jan 20, 2016 22:05:48 GMT -5
I've never listened to this(at least not yet),but how come this is completely floping?That's also why I'm confused how Adam got top AI earner for 2015 with 2 flopped singles.... The Forbes list covered end of June 2014 to beginning of June 2015 so no album only the first couple of months of GT and but all of the QAL tour dates except for this past September's South American dates.
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Post by missgenericnickname on Jan 21, 2016 1:27:51 GMT -5
I've never listened to this(at least not yet),but how come this is completely floping?That's also why I'm confused how Adam got top AI earner for 2015 with 2 flopped singles.... The Forbes list covered end of June 2014 to beginning of June 2015 so no album only the first couple of months of GT and but all of the QAL tour dates except for this past September's South American dates. Okay it's the touring pretty much.That makes sense
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 21, 2016 7:06:13 GMT -5
POP: 46 46 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 798 939 -141 1.643
-49 Spins -45 Bullet -0.122 Audience
HOT AC: 26 26 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 1192 1103 89 4.318
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 21, 2016 10:27:04 GMT -5
Doing well on the Forbes list is nothing new, he is one of AI top performers for quite some time. I remember a couple of years ago he being behind Kelly and Carrie but ahead of people like Scotty McCreary or Phillip Phillips who were selling way more albums than him. For an artist tours means money (way more money than albums or singles unless you are really a big seller) and his tours did well from the beginning and of course he had a very successful tour with Qeen as well
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Post by keepitreal on Jan 21, 2016 19:21:03 GMT -5
I think people forget or dismiss the fact that Adam isn't just marketed in the US. While Idols like Scotty and Phillip has sold more albums in the US and not by much, Adam has outsold them both WW by a lot. And since neither of those Idols has sustained their sales since their debut albums it really doesn't matter.
It looks like ALN is dead in pop. I always felt this song was more HAC leaning so hopefully it can continue to do well in HAC and than end the era.
'Ghost Town" has been certified GOLD in US.
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Post by graffeodl on Jan 22, 2016 7:39:55 GMT -5
POP: 46 46 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 746 915 -169 1.539
-52 spins -28 bullet -0.104 Audience
HAC: 26 25 ADAM LAMBERT Another Lonely Night 1201 1101 100 4.296
+9 spins +11 bullet -0.022 Audience
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Post by blujayyoungs on Jan 22, 2016 7:53:18 GMT -5
bye... cant believe Adam cant have a proper hit in the US ugh
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 22, 2016 10:31:32 GMT -5
I think people forget or dismiss the fact that Adam isn't just marketed in the US. While Idols like Scotty and Phillip has sold more albums in the US and not by much, Adam has outsold them both WW by a lot. And since neither of those Idols has sustained their sales since their debut albums it really doesn't matter. It looks like ALN is dead in pop. I always felt this song was more HAC leaning so hopefully it can continue to do well in HAC and than end the era. 'Ghost Town" has been certified GOLD in US. I don't see any reason to end the era, if they don't want to relive this (it wouldn't be that difficult) they can release Rumours. He has a tour on the USA and it would be better with a song on the radio (and even better because he is there to promote it)
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Post by Juanca on Jan 22, 2016 10:34:18 GMT -5
I didn't understand the strategy with this either Label waited too long to send it for adds... But they had already released the video quite early The freeze caught this already about to die
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jan 22, 2016 10:47:48 GMT -5
Time to release Rumors with Tove Lo as a hail mary.
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Post by divasummer on Jan 22, 2016 11:47:35 GMT -5
Even though "The Original High" is my favorite on his current cd if it means him getting on the radio a little easier since "Another Lonely Night" flopped I say go for "Rumors" Even though Tove Lo isn't an immediate thing here in the US maybe the two of them together will receive some attention.
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Post by maine on Jan 23, 2016 1:18:38 GMT -5
ughhhhh stupid pop radio
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 24, 2016 10:56:24 GMT -5
Even though "The Original High" is my favorite on his current cd if it means him getting on the radio a little easier since "Another Lonely Night" flopped I say go for "Rumors" Even though Tove Lo isn't an immediate thing here in the US maybe the two of them together will receive some attention. And she has no single to promote, so it would be a perfect oportunity for both
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Post by dragontattoo on Jan 26, 2016 19:07:04 GMT -5
And so that's that. Now what? Does the label wait until ALN is finished on HAC? Is it in their interest to promote another single?
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Post by Juanca on Jan 26, 2016 23:44:45 GMT -5
They should take advantage of the farewell AI season and promote a single, but not halfassedly. The album is too good to not have another hit
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