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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 27, 2015 20:29:39 GMT -5
Goes for Alternative adds on June 30.
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Post by Troy on May 27, 2015 21:25:10 GMT -5
can't find anything about this yet but I'm looking forward to hearing it
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 27, 2015 21:27:07 GMT -5
Is this from a new album/EP/standalone single? It's not on the EP that "Long Way Down" was on.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 27, 2015 21:29:20 GMT -5
Is this from a new album/EP/standalone single? It's not on the EP that "Long Way Down" was on. IKR?
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 27, 2015 21:30:38 GMT -5
I just found out; it's from a new album out on September 18.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on May 29, 2015 1:20:13 GMT -5
I don't think I'll wait up for this
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 29, 2015 5:54:32 GMT -5
I hope this flops on Alternative. This, Big Data, Chet Faker, Lorde, Macklemore and Daft Punk are by definition not alternative and are taking spins away from actual Alternative bands such as Nickelback (the 37th biggest Alternative act), Godsmack, Theory of a Deadman, Papa Roach, The Pretty Reckless and Nothing More. Give those spins to these bands instead of these pop acts, in that way, the alternative chart would be more listenable.
Joking! This should be huge on Alternative, and I'm actually fine with this doing well. I liked Long Way Down, and I'm fine with those rock bands that I mentioned not charting at all. They can chart but they shouldn't rob bands such as Interpol, TV on the Radio or Spoon of spins either.
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Post by Pipa on May 29, 2015 16:45:57 GMT -5
I hope this flops on Alternative. This, Big Data, Chet Faker, Lorde, Macklemore and Daft Punk are by definition not alternative and are taking spins away from actual Alternative bands such as Nickelback, the 37th biggest Alternative act, Godsmack, Theory of a Deadman, Papa Roach, The Pretty Reckless and Nothing More. Give those spins to these bands instead of these pop acts, in that way, the alternative chart would be more listenable. Finally, someone who truly understands the Alternative genre.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 29, 2015 17:18:39 GMT -5
How is Nickelback more alternative than the other artists mentioned?....
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Post by Cody on May 29, 2015 20:23:04 GMT -5
How is Nickelback more alternative than the other artists mentioned?.... Rock and Rool = Alternative, Mike How many times do we have to tell you? It's because Stuck EP. Also, Daryl gets bonus points for pointing out that Godsmack are the 37th most successful Alternative act. What a disgrace, they're the most alternative band on the planet and should be the most successful ever. If you don't think "1000HP" should have been #1 alternative hit of 2014, then you're just lying to yourself.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 29, 2015 20:25:31 GMT -5
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 29, 2015 20:26:08 GMT -5
How is Nickelback more alternative than the other artists mentioned?.... Also, Daryl gets bonus points for pointing out that Godsmack are the 37th most successful Alternative act. I was referring to Nickelback.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 29, 2015 20:34:46 GMT -5
In addition, the reason why I didn't include bands such as Puddle of Mudd and Staind to my joke was because they haven't released anything new recently.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 29, 2015 23:23:17 GMT -5
Is this seriously a thing? I have absolutely no idea why Godsmack, Nickelback and Puddle of Mudd even ended up in a Robert Delong thread without anyone complaining about the state of Alternative. Holy f**king s**t.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 29, 2015 23:28:06 GMT -5
Is this seriously a thing? I have absolutely no idea why Godsmack, Nickelback and Puddle of Mudd even ended up in a Robert Delong thread without anyone complaining about the state of Alternative. Holy f**king s**t. Because Billboard classified these bands as 'Alternative' (see the Alternative Albums archive) whereas Robert DeLong and Chet Faker are classified by them as dance. I wanted to start a WTF ALTERNATIVE thread lol because of the rants done in other threads for songs such as Habits (Stay High) and Stolen Dance.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 29, 2015 23:33:48 GMT -5
Is this seriously a thing? I have absolutely no idea why Godsmack, Nickelback and Puddle of Mudd even ended up in a Robert Delong thread without anyone complaining about the state of Alternative. Holy f**king s**t. Because Billboard classified these bands as 'Alternative' (see the Alternative Albums archive) whereas Robert DeLong and Chet Faker are classified by them as dance. I wanted to start a WTF ALTERNATIVE thread lol because of the rants done in other threads for songs such as Habits (Stay High) and Stolen Dance. Honestly, I've always viewed post-grunge/some nu-metal ("rock and rool"? Come on) to be a part of the Alternative genre (personal view). Alternative is a rock format, and if it means some mainstream rock getting played, why not. Just because Active likes them doesn't mean Alternative should completley shun them. I have absolutely no complaints with Godsmack, Nickelback, and Puddle of Mudd getting Alternative as well as Active airplay (and yes, I was hoping "1000hp" and even "Edge of a Revolution" would chart on Alternative). If Robert Delong and Chet Faker got played on whatever format that primarily plays "dance" music, along with Alternative, OK then. I'd be more than willing to hear mainstream rock and "dance music" (as classified by Billboard) on the same station. Rant over.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 29, 2015 23:41:54 GMT -5
Because Billboard classified these bands as 'Alternative' (see the Alternative Albums archive) whereas Robert DeLong and Chet Faker are classified by them as dance. I wanted to start a WTF ALTERNATIVE thread lol because of the rants done in other threads for songs such as Habits (Stay High) and Stolen Dance. Just because Active likes them doesn't mean Alternative should completley shun them. I have absolutely no complaints with Godsmack, Nickelback, and Puddle of Mudd getting Alternative as well as Active airplay (and yes, I was hoping "1000hp" and even "Edge of a Revolution" would chart on Alternative). They can chart but they shouldn't rob bands such as Interpol, TV on the Radio or Spoon of spins either. Kind of like 2010 and 2011 when Staind pulled a Linkin Park and bands such as Theory of a Deadman, Puddle of Mudd, Godsmack and Nickelback charted in the 20s to 30s, and there's a mix of core acts (Chevelle, Linkin Park, Seether, Three Days Grace, Shinedown, Breaking Benjamin) and indie acts (Phoenix, Foster the People, AWOLNATION, etc.) That would be the ideal chart for Alternative. Though in all fairness, Seether was in a slight decline in 2011 compared to their previous era.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 29, 2015 23:50:02 GMT -5
Just because Active likes them doesn't mean Alternative should completley shun them. I have absolutely no complaints with Godsmack, Nickelback, and Puddle of Mudd getting Alternative as well as Active airplay (and yes, I was hoping "1000hp" and even "Edge of a Revolution" would chart on Alternative). They can chart but they shouldn't rob bands such as Interpol, TV on the Radio or Spoon of spins either.Kind of like 2010 and 2011 when Staind pulled a Linkin Park and Godsmack and Nickelback charted in the 20s to 30s, and there's a mix of core acts (Chevelle, Linkin Park, Seether, Three Days Grace, Shinedown, Breaking Benjamin) and indie acts (Phoenix, Foster the People, AWOLNATION, etc.) That would be the ideal chart for Alternative. Exactly. That, along with the mid 2000s. I guess I'm just annoyed at how everyone likes to poke fun at post-grunge and hard rock, because those are two of my favorite genres. Many people just see it as a "phase" to go through, but I've liked it when I was 15, I like it at 24, and I'll probably still like it at 30+. Also, I think the "Habits" and "Stolen Dance" threads had all that discussion because of how polarizing the songs were. Robert Delong did not have nearly as much of that.
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Post by shakermaker on May 30, 2015 1:52:59 GMT -5
...why is all of this popping up on a thread for a song which hasn't even been released yet
This is what the General thread is for
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 30, 2015 1:57:19 GMT -5
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Post by shakermaker on May 30, 2015 2:01:43 GMT -5
Uhh... good morning (or afternoon? time zone differences and all) too Anyways, on a more on-topic note: the DeLong album is entitled In the Cards and is out on iTunes for pre-order:
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 30, 2015 2:02:54 GMT -5
...why is all of this popping up on a thread for a song which hasn't even been released yet This is what the General thread is for I'm just as confused as you are. But Daryl the Beryl did say he started it for s**ts and giggles, which looks like it worked. Even I've gotten sick of all the "WTF ALT" stuff, and I used to rant about it all the time.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on May 30, 2015 2:02:57 GMT -5
I always thought the label "Post-Grunge" was lame and I dislike when I see Hard Rock being labled as post-grunge. Makes Grunge sound more important than it really was? I feel the same way when I see STP called grunge. They weren't even from Washington. Anyway,I heard 0% grunge in Nickelback, Hinder, Shindown, Saving Abel ect.. All those bands are inspired by bands, like AC/DC, Boston(southern Rock), Aerosmith, etc.., not Nirvana, Sound Garden ect.. Also none from Washington; where grunge; which was actually a musical movemnet started. So why the hell, where they labeled; Post-Grunge to begin with? made no sense; other then an excuse for Alt radio to play their music.
That's my beef for today.
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Post by Cody on May 30, 2015 10:00:15 GMT -5
Stuck EP
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Post by Web on May 30, 2015 10:22:41 GMT -5
I enjoy Robert DeLong's music, and I'm excited to see what he follows up #2-peaking "Long Way Down" with, as well as the new tracks that are contained on his upcoming album.
Not sure what's up with all of those weird symbols at the top of the album art though, I know a couple of them were on the EP cover but not really sure why they need to be on the album.
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Post by Pipa on May 30, 2015 11:09:24 GMT -5
I always thought the label "Post-Grunge" was lame and I dislike when I see Hard Rock being labled as post-grunge. Makes Grunge sound more important than it really was? I feel the same way when I see STP called grunge. They weren't even from Washington. Anyway,I heard 0% grunge in Nickelback, Hinder, Shindown, Saving Abel ect.. All those bands are inspired by bands, like AC/DC, Boston(southern Rock), Aerosmith, etc.., not Nirvana, Sound Garden ect.. Also none from Washington; where grunge; which was actually a musical movemnet started. So why the hell, where they labeled; Post-Grunge to begin with? made no sense; other then an excuse for Alt radio to play their music. That's my beef for today. Have you ever heard Nickelback's Curb album? It's Canada's answer to Pearl Jam. Nickelback didn't really have any classic rock influence until Dark Horse.
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Post by maine on May 30, 2015 11:11:25 GMT -5
I'm assuming this isn't available on the pre-order yet (haven't checked)? I didn't care too much for "Long Way Down", but I'm still interested in this for some reason.
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Post by maine on May 30, 2015 11:15:39 GMT -5
I always thought the label "Post-Grunge" was lame and I dislike when I see Hard Rock being labled as post-grunge. Makes Grunge sound more important than it really was? I feel the same way when I see STP called grunge. They weren't even from Washington. Anyway,I heard 0% grunge in Nickelback, Hinder, Shindown, Saving Abel ect.. All those bands are inspired by bands, like AC/DC, Boston(southern Rock), Aerosmith, etc.., not Nirvana, Sound Garden ect.. Also none from Washington; where grunge; which was actually a musical movemnet started. So why the hell, where they labeled; Post-Grunge to begin with? made no sense; other then an excuse for Alt radio to play their music. That's my beef for today. ...so you have to be from Washington to be considered grunge? And to echo on what Pipa said, Nickelback was grunge. Curb, The State, and some of Silver Side Up and The Long Road had grunge material.
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Post by Troy on May 30, 2015 15:54:31 GMT -5
I enjoy Robert DeLong's music, and I'm excited to see what he follows up #2-peaking "Long Way Down" with, as well as the new tracks that are contained on his upcoming album. Not sure what's up with all of those weird symbols at the top of the album art though, I know a couple of them were on the EP cover but not really sure why they need to be on the album. In The (tarot?) Cards
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 30, 2015 21:17:53 GMT -5
I'm assuming this isn't available on the pre-order yet (haven't checked)? I didn't care too much for "Long Way Down", but I'm still interested in this for some reason. Now available to pre-order in the US on iTunes
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