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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 5:29:55 GMT -5
^Bummer. :(
But on the bright side, this hit top 40 on the Hot 100 this week. Moved 41-40 in its 16th week.
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Post by sgtoddball on Sept 29, 2015 8:37:28 GMT -5
Pulse posters are the only people upset about this not making #1 on BB. Heck, KC's folks are upset he hasn't got the Mediabase #1.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 8:56:24 GMT -5
^Maybe Kenny's team is upset because they were hoping to speed up the #1 schedule for the sake of their artists further down the line (Chase, Old Dominion, Carrie) who still have to get to #1, but there's no way from Kenny Chesney's standpoint it's better to have gotten to #1 on Mediabase a week sooner and only have a two-week BB #1 than to get an extra week at #1 on Billboard plus the Mediabase #1.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 29, 2015 9:46:29 GMT -5
Was never a fan of this song, but it's pretty shocking and disappointing to see it not hit #1 when it really should have. Same goes for "Buy Me a Boat." Honestly, I think those two should've traded places and Kenny's be the one to miss out on the top instead.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 9:50:45 GMT -5
I'm personally am very pleased that this missed the top as I never saw the appeal in it. Where as Kenny's song spending what looks to be now 3 weeks in a row at the top just puts a smile on my face. Sorry Keith Urban fans I am glad this song missed the top.
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Post by sgtoddball on Sept 29, 2015 9:57:04 GMT -5
There was an ad for a new single coming from an artist on Capitol Records in the Country Aircheck Weekly tonight. Could this be for the follow up single possibly? It's either Keith or Mickey and it's most likely Keith's follow up with an impact day of October 5th. Posted in the singles and adds thread...It's Charles Kelley's solo single.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 29, 2015 10:03:28 GMT -5
It's either Keith or Mickey and it's most likely Keith's follow up with an impact day of October 5th. Posted in the singles and adds thread...It's Charles Kelley's solo single. Right on cue too as Capitol gave up promotion on "Long Stretch Of Love" this week.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 29, 2015 10:11:23 GMT -5
The thing with this losing to Rainy Day is that I like both songs about equally.
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Post by justme60 on Sept 29, 2015 10:44:53 GMT -5
I'm glad some people seem to be drawn to JJJ than SIFARD. JJJ should hit Gold next week. As a fan of Keith's, that makes me happy.
It appears to me it came down to a fight between labels, and Sony, having a new leader, was bound to come out the winner. It didn't appear it had anything to do with the greatness of either song.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 29, 2015 11:50:57 GMT -5
It appears to me it came down to a fight between labels, and Sony, having a new leader, was bound to come out the winner. It didn't appear it had anything to do with the greatness of either song. What would new leadership have to do with Kenny staying at #1? I understand that Gary Overton had missteps at Sony but "Save It For A Rainy Day" was a natural huge hit (that almost any head of a label would have handled the way Randy Goodman did) and I hate to say it but that Monday update, as insignificant as it might have been, cost "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" the Billboard #1. 64k in audience is literally even in total audience. Also, rarely does song quality (which is subjective anyway) have anything to do with which songs hit #1.
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Post by Zazie on Sept 29, 2015 12:03:56 GMT -5
I'm personally am very pleased that this missed the top as I never saw the appeal in it. Where as Kenny's song spending what looks to be now 3 weeks in a row at the top just puts a smile on my face. Sorry Keith Urban fans I am glad this song missed the top. Nice display of empathy! I know whenever a song with lots of supporters misses #1 by 64k in audience, I'm always looking for a way to say how disappointing this must be, and how frustrating. Luckily, I don't have to do that now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 13:44:01 GMT -5
It appears to me it came down to a fight between labels, and Sony, having a new leader, was bound to come out the winner. It didn't appear it had anything to do with the greatness of either song. What would new leadership have to do with Kenny staying at #1? I understand that Gary Overton had missteps at Sony but "Save It For A Rainy Day" was a natural huge hit (that almost any head of a label would have handled the way Randy Goodman did) and I hate to say it but that Monday update, as insignificant as it might have been, cost "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" the Billboard #1. 64k in audience is literally even in total audience. Also, rarely does song quality (which is subjective anyway) have anything to do with which songs hit #1. I have to disagree with you on this. Sony has gotten really bullish with "Save It For A Rainy Day", and I highly doubt that they would have pushed Kenny's song this hard if it were still Gary Overton in charge (or if they were still between CEO's). I don't know if Goodman feels that he has something to prove, but I think Sony does. I mean, it's common knowledge that Sony's revenue is down, the percentage of titles that they place in the Billboard top 60 on a weekly basis is way down...the label has been really struggling. This is the first #1 that Sony has "worked" since Goodman and Co. took over, and what they've done is basically created a 3-week #1 out of thin air. "Save It For A Rainy Day" had a very strong chart run, no doubt, but when you look at how the indicator and activator charts played out (where Keith spent the last 3-4 weeks at #1), I think it's pretty clear that "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" was more of a natural big hit than Kenny's song was. And even on the main charts, both Chris Janson and Keith Urban were doing very well and then all of a sudden Kenny lept from 4-1 on Billboard. I think Sony caught both Warner Bros. and UMG off-guard here. I don't think either of those labels expected Sony to maneuver Kenny to #1 on Billboard the week that Chris Janson was going for #1. Now obviously Chris and Keith will probably be satisfied with Mediabase #1's, but I fully believe that the 3 songs would have gone to #1 on both charts if it weren't for Sony flexing their muscles. There's a difference between being satisfied (Mediabase-only #1) and being very happy (#1 on both charts). Again, I just think Warner Bros. and UMG weren't expecting this from Sony, because that's not the way the "system" has worked over the last couple of years. Normally they would have all gotten to #1 on both charts, but I think Sony really wanted to make a statement here. Yes, Kenny was able to re-pass Keith on the 7th day of the Billboard week after Keith led at the end of the day Saturday. But I still think it's pretty evident that Capitol also kept pushing JJJ through Sunday. I mean, the Mediabase #1 was practically in the bag on Friday already; Keith finished WAY ahead of Kenny on MB, and yet JJJ kept putting up big numbers. The problem is that Keith co-hosted CC-USA last weekend, so it was going to be tough for Capitol to come up with a gain on Sunday. The best they could manage was a small gain. If they weren't going for the Billboard #1, then we probably would have seen a 300-500k loss for Keith in yesterday's update already. And of course Kenny started the week with a 750k lead, and SIFARD was the hot song on CC-USA on Sunday. That right there was the difference. I mean, 64k? That's the equivalent of maybe 3-5 spins. I guarantee you that Capitol is very aware of how close they were to the Billboard #1, and I'll bet they are very disappointed. Of course, they'll never publicly say that though, since they can claim JJJ as a #1 due to the existence of Mediabase...but I highly doubt they just let Kenny have the Billboard #1 when they were that close.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 14:56:46 GMT -5
How many spins do you think 64k in audience would approximately come out to be? Pretty crazy that Keith broke the old Billboard audience record, but landed at #2. Like Jamie said above, it was probably just three or four spins Kenny's song got for being the CCUSA hot song last weekend.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 29, 2015 15:24:24 GMT -5
What would new leadership have to do with Kenny staying at #1? I understand that Gary Overton had missteps at Sony but "Save It For A Rainy Day" was a natural huge hit (that almost any head of a label would have handled the way Randy Goodman did) and I hate to say it but that Monday update, as insignificant as it might have been, cost "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" the Billboard #1. 64k in audience is literally even in total audience. Also, rarely does song quality (which is subjective anyway) have anything to do with which songs hit #1. Yes, Kenny was able to re-pass Keith on the 7th day of the Billboard week after Keith led at the end of the day Saturday. But I still think it's pretty evident that Capitol also kept pushing JJJ through Sunday. I mean, the Mediabase #1 was practically in the bag on Friday already; Keith finished WAY ahead of Kenny on MB, and yet JJJ kept putting up big numbers. The problem is that Keith co-hosted CC-USA last weekend, so it was going to be tough for Capitol to come up with a gain on Sunday. The best they could manage was a small gain. If they weren't going for the Billboard #1, then we probably would have seen a 300-500k loss for Keith in yesterday's update already. And of course Kenny started the week with a 750k lead, and SIFARD was the hot song on CC-USA on Sunday. That right there was the difference. I mean, 64k? That's the equivalent of maybe 3-5 spins. I guarantee you that Capitol is very aware of how close they were to the Billboard #1, and I'll bet they are very disappointed. Of course, they'll never publicly say that though, since they can claim JJJ as a #1 due to the existence of Mediabase...but I highly doubt they just let Kenny have the Billboard #1 when they were that close. I never said that Capitol didn't push JJJ through Sunday; of course they did. I know they would have wanted that Billboard #1 and I never said otherwise. All I'm saying is that Overton being a one time Sony head, shouldn't make people believe that Sony had this long history of prearranging peak week's and not being able to get hit singles to #1 like other labels. I agree that Sony flexed some muscle here but like I said, almost any new regime would have. Perhaps I should have made myself more clear. Yes, a change in leadership did technically have something to do with a 3 week #1 stay but that makes it seem like Sony is on a mission to squash their competition and I really don't think they're attempting to stick it to UMG or Warner here -- Chris and Keith were just casualties -- if you even call them "casualties" because like sgtoddball said, the most important chart to them was Mediabase, which of course makes many here very angry. Of course, they made a decision to fight for airplay with "Buy Me A Boat" and "JJJ" but they worked Kenny's song to get the maximum potential out of the single and tbh, I'm quite admirable of it. Of course, labels would prefer a #1 on both charts rather than just one if they had the choice, I'm well aware...if you could get $1,000 instead of $500, you would go for $1,000, but if you get $500, you're a-okay. I really don't think Capitol is so disappointed to the level some here are. It sucks, no doubt, but they got the MB #1 and have already made plans for single #2 from Keith's album. Sometimes a really big hit gets screwed. I've seen it multiple times over the past decade. It just gets so magnified in 2015 because it's become fewer and father between. I really am trying not to sound smug in my comments but I really wouldn't get so bent out of shape here. We've said before how we would like labels to not play nice and actually try to maximize a single's #1 chart run and now there seems to be extreme vitriol because 1) it's "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" -- a song that many here adore and 2) it lost out on a Billboard #1 by 64k in total audience, which would already be enough to get upset over.
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Post by sgtoddball on Sept 29, 2015 15:41:51 GMT -5
The most important chart to the labels in Nashville is Mediabase. You can believe it or not but it's true. If they can get a #1 on BB that's just gravy but it's not the goal they shoot for first and foremost.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Sept 29, 2015 15:58:27 GMT -5
What would new leadership have to do with Kenny staying at #1? I understand that Gary Overton had missteps at Sony but "Save It For A Rainy Day" was a natural huge hit (that almost any head of a label would have handled the way Randy Goodman did) and I hate to say it but that Monday update, as insignificant as it might have been, cost "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" the Billboard #1. 64k in audience is literally even in total audience. Also, rarely does song quality (which is subjective anyway) have anything to do with which songs hit #1. I have to disagree with you on this. Sony has gotten really bullish with "Save It For A Rainy Day", and I highly doubt that they would have pushed Kenny's song this hard if it were still Gary Overton in charge (or if they were still between CEO's). I don't know if Goodman feels that he has something to prove, but I think Sony does. I mean, it's common knowledge that Sony's revenue is down, the percentage of titles that they place in the Billboard top 60 on a weekly basis is way down...the label has been really struggling. This is the first #1 that Sony has "worked" since Goodman and Co. took over, and what they've done is basically created a 3-week #1 out of thin air. "Save It For A Rainy Day" had a very strong chart run, no doubt, but when you look at how the indicator and activator charts played out (where Keith spent the last 3-4 weeks at #1), I think it's pretty clear that "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" was more of a natural big hit than Kenny's song was. And even on the main charts, both Chris Janson and Keith Urban were doing very well and then all of a sudden Kenny lept from 4-1 on Billboard. I think Sony caught both Warner Bros. and UMG off-guard here. I don't think either of those labels expected Sony to maneuver Kenny to #1 on Billboard the week that Chris Janson was going for #1. Now obviously Chris and Keith will probably be satisfied with Mediabase #1's, but I fully believe that the 3 songs would have gone to #1 on both charts if it weren't for Sony flexing their muscles. There's a difference between being satisfied (Mediabase-only #1) and being very happy (#1 on both charts). Again, I just think Warner Bros. and UMG weren't expecting this from Sony, because that's not the way the "system" has worked over the last couple of years. Normally they would have all gotten to #1 on both charts, but I think Sony really wanted to make a statement here. Yes, Kenny was able to re-pass Keith on the 7th day of the Billboard week after Keith led at the end of the day Saturday. But I still think it's pretty evident that Capitol also kept pushing JJJ through Sunday. I mean, the Mediabase #1 was practically in the bag on Friday already; Keith finished WAY ahead of Kenny on MB, and yet JJJ kept putting up big numbers. The problem is that Keith co-hosted CC-USA last weekend, so it was going to be tough for Capitol to come up with a gain on Sunday. The best they could manage was a small gain. If they weren't going for the Billboard #1, then we probably would have seen a 300-500k loss for Keith in yesterday's update already. And of course Kenny started the week with a 750k lead, and SIFARD was the hot song on CC-USA on Sunday. That right there was the difference. I mean, 64k? That's the equivalent of maybe 3-5 spins. I guarantee you that Capitol is very aware of how close they were to the Billboard #1, and I'll bet they are very disappointed. Of course, they'll never publicly say that though, since they can claim JJJ as a #1 due to the existence of Mediabase...but I highly doubt they just let Kenny have the Billboard #1 when they were that close. If the new Sony CEO really wants to prove something, he better get Smoke Break to #1, otherwise this is the 5th consecutive CU song to miss the BB #1. Back on topic: It's a shame this missed the top and had to go through such a big fight and that Kenny's team was pushing ahead full guns blazing. Such a razor thin margin too. Let's hope he comes back with a new single soon and gets his #1.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 0:26:46 GMT -5
Sometimes a really big hit gets screwed. I've seen it multiple times over the past decade. It just gets so magnified in 2015 because it's become fewer and father between. I really am trying not to sound smug in my comments but I really wouldn't get so bent out of shape here. We've said before how we would like labels to not play nice and actually try to maximize a single's #1 chart run and now there seems to be extreme vitriol because 1) it's "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" -- a song that many here adore and 2) it lost out on a Billboard #1 by 64k in total audience, which would already be enough to get upset over. I'm not necessarily saying that Sony is out to stick it to their competition either, but it clearly took effort on their part to move Kenny from 4-1 on Billboard the week that Chris Janson was #1 on Mediabase, and it took further effort to keep Kenny ahead of Keith this past week. They fought hard for what looks like it'll be a 3-week #1. They'll certainly be ecstatic on Sunday when they get the #1 on Mediabase as well, but obviously they'll call SIFARD a 3-week #1 hit. We all know how this works. If I'm being honest, I like Kenny's song more than I like Keith's song (and I liked Chris' song the most out of the three). Most of the signs indicated that "Buy Me A Boat" and "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" were both very big hits...and that's the reason why I'm so disappointed -- that two of the year's bigger hits were blocked from the top spot on Billboard. I guess all I'm trying to say is that the natural order of things would have had each song getting 1 week at #1 on both charts, but Sony fought hard for extra weeks on Billboard while still allowing Warner Bros. and Capitol the Mediabase #1's the past 2 weeks. And I think that sucks, especially for Keith, given that he put up more than 50.7 million in audience, which would have been more than good enough to be the #1 song in any other week in Billboard history. And to make things worse, we saw Michael Ray and Dustin Lynch go #1 in recent weeks with songs that were clearly not very big hits. I mean, just imagine if Michael or Dustin entered the top 5 at the same time that Chris, Keith, and Kenny did. "Kiss You In The Morning" and "Hell Of A Night" wouldn't have gotten past #4. The most important chart to the labels in Nashville is Mediabase. Ever wonder why that is? It's called "52 #1's in a year". Obviously the labels all go for the Mediabase #1...because it's way too easy to accomplish (which is why I can't take the Mediabase chart seriously). I'd certainly love to see more 3-4 week #1's, but not at the expense of actual big hits like "Buy Me A Boat" and "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16". If Kenny had blocked songs like "Kiss You In The Morning", "Hell Of A Night", or "Til It's Gone" (I know that's another Chesney song, but surely you see my point), I'd be super happy. But instead he blocked 2 big hits that looked like surefire #1's. For the record, I would have been just as annoyed if SIFARD had blocked "Sangria", "Homegrown", "Take Your Time", etc.
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Post by sgtoddball on Sept 30, 2015 7:45:01 GMT -5
I don't believe the labels are going for mediabase #1's because "it's easy to accomplish". If the same goal and effort were put into the BB chart you'd see 52 #1's on that chart as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 12:05:29 GMT -5
^But it is easier to accomplish. All you have to do is get the stations with the most listeners to spin your record as many times as they can overnight. On Mediabase, this counts exactly the same as a daytime spin on these stations, while on Billboard these overnight spins count for significantly less audience.
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Post by sgtoddball on Sept 30, 2015 12:42:51 GMT -5
^But it is easier to accomplish. All you have to do is get the stations with the most listeners to spin your record as many times as they can overnight. On Mediabase, this counts exactly the same as a daytime spin on these stations, while on Billboard these overnight spins count for significantly less audience. Ok, you don't think labels would be doing everything in their power to obtain a BB #1 if it was the most important chart? My point is they don't really care if the song makes it to #1 on that chart or not. They are striving to be #1 on Mediabase and if the song happens to make it on BB it's added icing on the cake.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 30, 2015 13:27:02 GMT -5
It's going to pain me to do the following next week: Move Keith Urban up to #29 from #40 on the list of those artists with the most #2s. I wanted to update the #1s list instead.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 1, 2015 11:17:03 GMT -5
^But it is easier to accomplish. All you have to do is get the stations with the most listeners to spin your record as many times as they can overnight. On Mediabase, this counts exactly the same as a daytime spin on these stations, while on Billboard these overnight spins count for significantly less audience. Ok, you don't think labels would be doing everything in their power to obtain a BB #1 if it was the most important chart? My point is they don't really care if the song makes it to #1 on that chart or not. They are striving to be #1 on Mediabase and if the song happens to make it on BB it's added icing on the cake. Actually, BOTH charts matter to the folks at the labels. They want both but if they can't have both, they'll go for what they can get. Folks here (and the gatekeepers at Wikipedia) may dislike Mediabase, but to discount it as next to nothing or not as "valued" as the Billboard chart because of it's 'ease' to get a #1 single discounts how anyone getting a #1 single is difficult. Getting both chart's #1s is the most desirable result. But if they can only have one, there will be #1 parties for Chris, Kenny and Keith and each song will be celebrated equally by all involved in its success at a #1 and nobody really says "man, I'm so angry I missed a #1 on Billboard and or Mediabase." We really should be concerned with what songs will be more memorable 2 years from now, let alone 10. I think in the case of Janson, Chesney and Urban, they have winning singles that will be remembered by both radio at least 2 years from now and quite possibly 10. Think about Martina McBride's signature hit. "Independence Day" was not even a Top 10 hit!
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 1, 2015 13:47:46 GMT -5
I wonder if it is a coincidence that Keith Urban set a spins record at MediaBase (8800) while Kenny Chesney set an audience record at Billboard (51 million) during the same week.
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Post by Marv on Oct 1, 2015 17:27:15 GMT -5
Agree with sabre14 once again---in my 19+ years as a country radio listener, song quality typically has nothing to with merit as it applies to the quality of songs hitting Billie since FGL came along two years ago this month and unleashed a deluge of copycats while simultaneously banishing heritage and format icons starting with the 'Towering Trio' consisting of George Strait, Lwe Ann Womack and Alan Jackson from the airwaves for no REMOTELY intelligent reason, not only for their most recent and downright flawless CDs, but the undisputed fact that tons of folks on this board including yours truly have slashed their TSL (Time Spent Listening) to country radio a TON over the past 24 months pretty much summarizes our level of disgust with waht passes for country music, even as the format's biggest stars including, Brad, Kenny, Tim, Carrie, Keith and a handful of other superstars continue to pump out top notch music in the 10+ years since Ms. Underwood exploded at the format with record-breaking airplay as it relates to SPSPW numbers.. The bottom half of the Mediabase top 40 chart continues to look and sound substantially than a ton of the dreck which reaches the top 10 and eventually #1, proving that Nashville msongwriters continue to turn out top-notch music, even while the gap in ther quality of music between the ladies and the gentlemen continues to widen in favor of the ladies by a considerable margin IMHO, although 30+ week long for char runs for standout tracks starting with Jana Kramer's continue to soar for no intelligent reason, since IGTB is far superior to most of the tunes heard on CT40 week after week for most of the past two years. Prior to FGL, the format sounded a heck of a lot better--what a difference two years makes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 18:23:59 GMT -5
How do you get from "Are Keith Urban and Capitol Nashville satisfied with a Mediabase-only #1?" to "Florida Georgia Line have destroyed the format." No offense but I feel like it's a bit silly to be delving into FGL bashing for no good reason in a Keith Urban thread. Not to mention it has little to do with anything related to this song or the discussion that's been going on.
Anyway, remember how people thought I was being pointless when I compared peak spins numbers of the #1s over the past few months in the thread for "Crash and Burn?" Obviously, contrary to what others argued, labels do care at least somewhat about peak spins numbers, as Capitol took out a full-page ad in Aircheck this week to brag about Keith Urban setting the record for highest spin total on Mediabase. Kenny Chesney may beat Keith's record in the next three days, and then I wouldn't be surprised to see Columbia also mention the record in the next edition of Country Aircheck.
But like I said in the CAB thread, I don't think record labels ever really try for these records. It just happens when a song "has" to receive a big push. Obviously JJJ was involved in a very close race with SIFARD, so Capitol had to give the #1 push all they had and as a result they ended up getting to an all-time high on Mediabase, which is considered an accomplishment worthy of bragging.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 18:28:17 GMT -5
How do you get from "Are Keith Urban and Capitol Nashville satisfied with a Mediabase-only #1?" to "Florida Georgia Line have destroyed the format." No offense but I feel like it's a bit silly to be delving into FGL bashing for no good reason in a Keith Urban thread. Not to mention it has little to do with anything related to this song or the discussion that's been going on. Hey people occasionally go off on what they initially say and drift off trust me it's happened to the best of us.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Oct 1, 2015 19:46:46 GMT -5
How do you get from "Are Keith Urban and Capitol Nashville satisfied with a Mediabase-only #1?" to "Florida Georgia Line have destroyed the format." No offense but I feel like it's a bit silly to be delving into FGL bashing for no good reason in a Keith Urban thread. Not to mention it has little to do with anything related to this song or the discussion that's been going on. Hey people occasionally go off on what they initially say and drift off trust me it's happened to the best of us. I don't care. I'm tired of people bashing them like that-so over the top and irrelevant to the thread.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 19:54:09 GMT -5
Hey people occasionally go off on what they initially say and drift off trust me it's happened to the best of us. I don't care. I'm tired of people bashing them like that-so over the top and irrelevant to the thread. Yeah no ones perfect everyone makes mistakes I have on Pulse and I'm more than confident you have too. Not trying to attack or bash I just understand where he's coming from.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 21:26:39 GMT -5
I apologize in advance, but you guys gotta put your big boy pants on.
Marv wasn't bashing FGL, he was simply examining the most recent radio trends which oddly coincided with an explosion in the format of a specific duo that bridged the gap between pop and country, opening the door for many pop trends (both musically and commercially) to impose themselves upon this genre.
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Post by bksouthga on Oct 2, 2015 6:51:55 GMT -5
I apologize in advance, but you guys gotta put your big boy pants on. Marv wasn't bashing FGL, he was simply examining the most recent radio trends which oddly coincided with an explosion in the format of a specific duo that bridged the gap between pop and country, opening the door for many pop trends (both musically and commercially) to impose themselves upon this genre. I hate to be the one to break this to you but the door between country and pop has ALWAYS been open. The only thing that has changed is what the pop music was at the time. Fifties orchestrated sounds, blues, rock and roll, folk rock, disco, R&B, hard rock, faux Celtic, whatever. Now the PPP music is hip hop, which doesn't sit well with many, but what do you think some people thought about alabama's song "Take Me Down"? Which I love btw.
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