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Post by sabre14 on Jun 22, 2015 12:13:08 GMT -5
Artist: Kelsea Ballerini Single: "Dibs" Writers: Kelsea Ballerini, Josh Kerr, Ryan Griffin, Jason Duke Album: The First TimeLabel: Black River Entertainment Add Date: July 20th, 2015 Audio"Dibs" will be the follow-up to Kelsea's debut #1 single "Love Me Like You Mean It." I've been told by my source at WYRK that this will be the next single (and they were told that a couple months ago too). Its also been spun on The Highway since the spring, and Kelsea said it will be the official follow-up at CMA Music Festival. We here of course have known for a while that "Dibs" is the second single. We could see an official announcement in Aircheck or Billboard tonight, if not then by next week. Chart Run: 48* - 35* - 32* - 31* - 32* - 29* - 29* - 28* - 25* (Mediabase)
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 22, 2015 12:53:31 GMT -5
How long before we have someone who says they hate this "rap crap" or "rap part" in the middle?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 22, 2015 13:09:08 GMT -5
Love, love, love this song! Glad we have official confirmation that this is next, especially with people talking that she might change singles, but I'm so glad they stuck with "Dibs." I can see this bucking the trend and being a big hit for Kelsea. It's a total earworm and I really enjoy the instrumentation throughout. How long before we have someone who says they hate this "rap crap" or "rap part" in the middle? Personally, as someone who usually has a problem with that in other songs, I see nothing wrong with anything in "Dibs." I actually think those parts on this sound closer to spoken word than anything else I've heard lately that sounds like that. I hear no "rap" in this song.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 22, 2015 13:11:46 GMT -5
Well I'm sure we can count on a certain poster to defend it as "spoken word".....
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 22, 2015 13:14:37 GMT -5
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Post by bigfan101 on Jun 22, 2015 13:18:09 GMT -5
Her Twitter feed is full of messages like that...it seems like Nashville is fully behind kelsea.
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Post by sbp17 on Jun 22, 2015 13:19:32 GMT -5
Eh, I don't like this. While I'm glad a new female has found success, it's unfortunate it has to be with the same tired sound we're hearing from the guys. At least it's a female voice but it's sad I have to even settle for that.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 22, 2015 13:21:51 GMT -5
Well I'm sure we can count on a certain poster to defend it as "spoken word"..... That's cause it IS spoken word, just like most stuff that's been released to radio (closest actual radio hit with "Rap" is "Dirt Road Anthem").
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 22, 2015 13:23:13 GMT -5
Her Twitter feed is full of messages like that...it seems like Nashville is fully behind kelsea. I'm not a huge fan of her style of music in today's country, but I do recognize her immense talent and her debut album does have some very good songs on it. I've seen Kelsea interviewed dozens of times (especially her radio station interviews) and she honestly comes off as one of the most down to earth and sincere individuals I've ever seen in country music, which says a ton since there are already numerous great people who are artists in this genre.
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Post by carriekins on Jun 22, 2015 13:27:36 GMT -5
Her Twitter feed is full of messages like that...it seems like Nashville is fully behind kelsea. I'm not a huge fan of her style of music in today's country, but I do recognize her immense talent and her debut album does have some very good songs on it. I've seen Kelsea interviewed dozens of times (especially her radio station interviews) and she honestly comes off as one of the most down to earth and sincere individuals I've ever seen in country music, which says a ton since there are already numerous great people who are artists in this genre. I agree with this quite a bit. I don't particularly care for Dibs or LMLYMI because I really don't find it that far removed from the bro world, but I really REALLY like Kelsea as a person. She seems so genuine and truly grateful for everything. I can root for that if I don't love the output. And for the love can we just stop with the spoken word debate? It's not funny anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 13:42:28 GMT -5
I like this one a little better than her last...the instrumentation is better and the production is toned down. I like everything I've seen and heard about Kelsea as a person, although I must agree that her "style" is more in line with bro-country than anything else. So while it's a win that a female is seeing such a high level of success, it's only a partial win in my eyes. Furthermore, the "hey"s in the chorus annoy the hell out of me (see: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9dp-jxGD2o#t=00m015s) and am I the only one who notices that the chord progression is virtually identical with that in "Love Me Like You Mean It"? It is a little different, but you can easily interchange the melodies of both songs without a problem. All that aside, I don't mind this.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 22, 2015 14:13:44 GMT -5
Well I'm sure we can count on a certain poster to defend it as "spoken word"..... That's cause it IS spoken word, just like most stuff that's been released to radio (closest actual radio hit with "Rap" is "Dirt Road Anthem"). Once again , I'm reminded of how you view country as a huge liquid genre that encompasses all , but can meticulously examine & define what is or isn't rap influenced. But hey , maybe your right, maybe this 22 year old woman was hugely influenced by 60's era country music recitations. I do admire your ability to create an unequivocal fact simply by stating it though. I'm gonna try that. I love this red Chevy. In anycase , I don't have a dog in this hunt. I didn't care for the first Taylor Swift.... and wasn't looking for another one.
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Post by tigers09 on Jun 22, 2015 14:44:50 GMT -5
this is okay, but forgettable
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Post by ant on Jun 22, 2015 15:26:51 GMT -5
This isn't a bad single choice at all, but I think I would've preferred "Yeah Boy".
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Post by sapphire on Jun 22, 2015 16:39:11 GMT -5
I like this since I've heard the EP but not my preferred single choice.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 22, 2015 16:56:50 GMT -5
That's cause it IS spoken word, just like most stuff that's been released to radio (closest actual radio hit with "Rap" is "Dirt Road Anthem"). Once again , I'm reminded of how you view country as a huge liquid genre that encompasses all , but can meticulously examine & define what is or isn't rap influenced. But hey , maybe your right, maybe this 22 year old woman was hugely influenced by 60's era country music recitations. I do admire your ability to create an unequivocal fact simply by stating it though. I'm gonna try that. I love this red Chevy. In anycase , I don't have a dog in this hunt. I didn't care for the first Taylor Swift.... and wasn't looking for another one. Just cause someone is influenced by rap doesn't mean theyre indeed "rapping". That's all I was ever trying to get at. It's also why country is constantly evolving cause young artists have a multitude of influences and that means the genre is indeed fluid.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Jun 22, 2015 18:15:57 GMT -5
That was fast lol. LMLYMI literally was declared the BB #1 a few hours ago and we already have a thread for the 2nd single. Good to see something new from her since LMLYMI just peaked and has a high burn rate. Expect this to smash this summer/fall
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 22, 2015 18:23:03 GMT -5
That was fast lol. LMLYMI literally was declared the BB #1 a few hours ago and we already have a thread for the 2nd single. Good to see something new from her since LMLYMI just peaked and has a high burn rate. Expect this to smash this summer/fall Sabre14 is pretty fast with the single threads. You can say he has 'Dibs' on them!
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 22, 2015 18:34:10 GMT -5
That was fast lol. LMLYMI literally was declared the BB #1 a few hours ago and we already have a thread for the 2nd single. Good to see something new from her since LMLYMI just peaked and has a high burn rate. Expect this to smash this summer/fall Sabre14 is pretty fast with the single threads. You can say he has 'Dibs' on them! You probably couldn't wait to type that joke out.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 22, 2015 18:35:10 GMT -5
Sabre14 is pretty fast with the single threads. You can say he has 'Dibs' on them! You probably couldn't wait to type that joke out. To tell the truth, I've been waiting. I hope Dibs can make it to the top as well.
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Post by dm2081 on Jun 22, 2015 18:35:31 GMT -5
I like this song enough, but would have preferred "Yeah Boy", which I think is catchier and a little more different sounding than her first single. "Dibs" sounds awfully similar to "Love Me Like You Mean It", but I still enjoy it. I'm just glad that we have a new female artist who's not releasing the stereotypical "guy cheats on or breaks up with girl therefore men are evil" single. Hope this does well for her, but seeing how Lee Brice, Darius Rucker and Randy Houser are all struggling with their current singles, I think this one is going to take a long time to catch on. I could see this one taking 20 weeks or so before it cracks the top 20 (that's modern country radio for ya).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 7:52:06 GMT -5
Just cause someone is influenced by rap doesn't mean theyre indeed "rapping". That's all I was ever trying to get at. It's also why country is constantly evolving cause young artists have a multitude of influences and that means the genre is indeed fluid. But how can you say that country as a genre is fluid and what defines country is constantly changing (evolving) but what defines rap is completely 100% set in stone? How can you say that "A", "B", "C", "D" are country even though they are all different because the genre is evolving...but rap is only "M" but definitely not "Q", as what Kelsea is doing in this song. I don't really think she is rapping, but she's a hell of a lot closer to what artists like Iggy Azalea and B.o.B. do in their songs than what George Strait did in "Give it Away" (which to me, is the prime example of spoken word.) I think a lot of people are accepting that country is changing (calling it "evolution") which to me means it is now a pop format, as I have said before. This is a simple definition of pop music from about.com and their entertainment section: Sounds to me like that is the exact way you and many others are now describing country music. Here's another from Wikipedia: What's funny is that the first sentence also applies to how some now describe country. The ironic part is the second sentence (which describes core elements of pop) can now really no longer apply to country. Where, at one point, you could pinpoint the core elements that defined country, that is no longer possible. Gone are the days of the fiddle and the steel. Production is no longer stripped down. We're telling great stories of "house parties" and "kissing you in the morning". All I'm saying is when I put it on Bluegrass Junction on XM radio, I can distinctly tell it's bluegrass. That's also, more or less, what I would expect to hear when I put it on the bluegrass station.
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Post by Spidey on Jun 23, 2015 10:41:23 GMT -5
I like this. I hope she can continue to have success on radio.
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Post by stanches2318 on Jun 23, 2015 10:52:01 GMT -5
It's also funny, that when you go back and listen to a lot of the classic country songs and artists. You will see that there beats were the kind of pop that was out there in that certain decade. For instance u take "You Can Tell Me Goodbye" by Eddy Arnold that song has no country beat. It has the 1960's pop beat to it. Don't forget a lot of the Charlie Daniels Band songs of the 70's or the some Dolly Parton's 80's pop songs that were played on country radio. How about the Shania, LeAnn Rimes who were country pop in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Evn Lee Ann Womack tried a few rock sounding songs on her "Something Worth Leaving Behind" album. Then a few years after that comes Taylor Swift. Don't get me wrong I like all these songs and people, but it goes to show that even the classics weren't country, so there has always been a rock/pop in country music from early years and nobody criticizes the legends, which they should if they are gonna criticize today's music. I also think it sounds awesome when heavy pop and country is mixed like Kelsea and Sam Hunt are doing. this is my opinion enjoy. :)
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 23, 2015 11:08:13 GMT -5
It's also funny, that when you go back and listen to a lot of the classic country songs and artists. You will see that there beats were the kind of pop that was out there in that certain decade. For instance u take "You Can Tell Me Goodbye" by Eddy Arnold that song has no country beat. It has the 1960's pop beat to it. Don't forget a lot of the Charlie Daniels Band songs of the 70's or the some Dolly Parton's 80's pop songs that were played on country radio. How about the Shania, LeAnn Rimes who were country pop in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Evn Lee Ann Womack tried a few rock sounding songs on her "Something Worth Leaving Behind" album. Then a few years after that comes Taylor Swift. Don't get me wrong I like all these songs and people, but it goes to show that even the classics weren't country, so there has always been a rock/pop in country music from early years and nobody criticizes the legends, which they should if they are gonna criticize today's music. I also think it sounds awesome when heavy pop and country is mixed like Kelsea and Sam Hunt are doing. this is my opinion enjoy. :) Absolutely. Country has always been mixed with pop. Nobodys denying that. But throughout all those eras, there was a balance of traditional country. That balance has all but been erased by todays mainstream "country" radio. I think Sam Hunt has a pretty good voice , and had I stumbled over him on a pop station , I might have even bought a download or two from him. But I disagree that there is even an iota of country in his music (and from what I've heard of Kelsea's music as well.) People can call it an "evolution" of country music if they want but I just don't see it that way. An evolution doesn't require abandoning every cornerstone that has built the genre and include replacing the entire demo audience. This isn't an evolution of country music , its a replacement of country music. It isn't a natural progression , its its a cold & calculated move made by conglomerates.
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Post by stanches2318 on Jun 23, 2015 11:19:27 GMT -5
The problem is is that the young generation doesn't know the natural country sound. So until they do they will keep on buying these non country songs from these supposed to be country artists. I grew up on 90's country like Garth King George, Tim, Faith, Alan etc. My mom got me liking classic country. I honestly didn't listen to mainstream pop/rock til I was 12 or 13. And now I like almost everything. I think having 4 Country award shows a year is exposing this kind of country more. The radio won't play the only 2 "country artist" that are 100% country like Daryle Singletary and Kacey Musgraves.
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Post by bjer127 on Jun 23, 2015 13:20:39 GMT -5
It's also funny, that when you go back and listen to a lot of the classic country songs and artists. You will see that there beats were the kind of pop that was out there in that certain decade. For instance u take "You Can Tell Me Goodbye" by Eddy Arnold that song has no country beat. It has the 1960's pop beat to it. Don't forget a lot of the Charlie Daniels Band songs of the 70's or the some Dolly Parton's 80's pop songs that were played on country radio. How about the Shania, LeAnn Rimes who were country pop in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Evn Lee Ann Womack tried a few rock sounding songs on her "Something Worth Leaving Behind" album. Then a few years after that comes Taylor Swift. Don't get me wrong I like all these songs and people, but it goes to show that even the classics weren't country, so there has always been a rock/pop in country music from early years and nobody criticizes the legends, which they should if they are gonna criticize today's music. I also think it sounds awesome when heavy pop and country is mixed like Kelsea and Sam Hunt are doing. this is my opinion enjoy. :) Absolutely. Country has always been mixed with pop. Nobodys denying that. But throughout all those eras, there was a balance of traditional country. That balance has all but been erased by todays mainstream "country" radio. I think Sam Hunt has a pretty good voice , and had I stumbled over him on a pop station , I might have even bought a download or two from him. But I disagree that there is even an iota of country in his music (and from what I've heard of Kelsea's music as well.) People can call it an "evolution" of country music if they want but I just don't see it that way. An evolution doesn't require abandoning every cornerstone that has built the genre and include replacing the entire demo audience. This isn't an evolution of country music , its a replacement of country music. It isn't a natural progression , its its a cold & calculated move made by conglomerates. Amen. Lumpy 2016? I can see the campaign bumper stickers already I, like others here, can't see the hype over Kelsea. Taylor may have been more country with her debut. But I guess that's just the new audience. Does anyone still sit around and listen to country songs and drink beer anymore? ....(distant sounds of dwight yoakam)
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 23, 2015 13:40:29 GMT -5
Absolutely. Country has always been mixed with pop. Nobodys denying that. But throughout all those eras, there was a balance of traditional country. That balance has all but been erased by todays mainstream "country" radio. I think Sam Hunt has a pretty good voice , and had I stumbled over him on a pop station , I might have even bought a download or two from him. But I disagree that there is even an iota of country in his music (and from what I've heard of Kelsea's music as well.) People can call it an "evolution" of country music if they want but I just don't see it that way. An evolution doesn't require abandoning every cornerstone that has built the genre and include replacing the entire demo audience. This isn't an evolution of country music , its a replacement of country music. It isn't a natural progression , its its a cold & calculated move made by conglomerates. Amen. Lumpy 2016? I can see the campaign bumper stickers already HA!! "I'll put Fiddle & Steel on every radio". [/quote] I, like others here, can't see the hype over Kelsea. Taylor may have been more country with her debut. But I guess that's just the new audience. Does anyone still sit around and listen to country songs and drink beer anymore? ....(distant sounds of dwight yoakam) Raises hand! I do. But I believe I would need hard drugs in order to bare listening to a 30 minute block of modern mainstream country radio. I also don't see the big deal with Kelsea. I heard her a few months ago live on 650 WSM and thought to myself that she didn't have a chance of making it. Shows what I know....and in hindsight , she was already charting
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Post by stanches2318 on Jun 23, 2015 15:00:00 GMT -5
I Don't drink beer but I listen to artists like Dwight Yoakam all the time when i'm relaxing.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 23, 2015 15:40:49 GMT -5
Just cause someone is influenced by rap doesn't mean theyre indeed "rapping". That's all I was ever trying to get at. It's also why country is constantly evolving cause young artists have a multitude of influences and that means the genre is indeed fluid. But how can you say that country as a genre is fluid and what defines country is constantly changing (evolving) but what defines rap is completely 100% set in stone? How can you say that "A", "B", "C", "D" are country even though they are all different because the genre is evolving...but rap is only "M" but definitely not "Q", as what Kelsea is doing in this song. I don't really think she is rapping, but she's a hell of a lot closer to what artists like Iggy Azalea and B.o.B. do in their songs than what George Strait did in "Give it Away" (which to me, is the prime example of spoken word.) I think a lot of people are accepting that country is changing (calling it "evolution") which to me means it is now a pop format, as I have said before. This is a simple definition of pop music from about.com and their entertainment section: Sounds to me like that is the exact way you and many others are now describing country music. Here's another from Wikipedia: What's funny is that the first sentence also applies to how some now describe country. The ironic part is the second sentence (which describes core elements of pop) can now really no longer apply to country. Where, at one point, you could pinpoint the core elements that defined country, that is no longer possible. Gone are the days of the fiddle and the steel. Production is no longer stripped down. We're telling great stories of "house parties" and "kissing you in the morning". All I'm saying is when I put it on Bluegrass Junction on XM radio, I can distinctly tell it's bluegrass. That's also, more or less, what I would expect to hear when I put it on the bluegrass station. Because maybe one should look at country music, at least what we hear in the mainstream as another "pop radio format" (not unlike what you say above) In all honesty, that's what I call it. I also never said rap or hiphop don't 'evolve.' They do. Take a look at guys like Kendrick Lamar, Drake and Yellawolf for examples of that and listen to the "rural rap" stuff of folks like The Lacs and Cypress Springs and you'll hear bands who are influenced by 80s/90s emcees more than what's out there today. Did you know genres were created by record stores out of a need to separate "race records" (R&B, Blues, early rock and roll) from "white records" or "everything else?". There wasn't really any genres before that. There were certainly more rural sounds in stations for people in rural areas than maybe what one heard on their local AM station in Chicago but it was all more like a catch-all than anything that we have now.
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