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Post by shakermaker on Jul 1, 2015 10:25:14 GMT -5
Side-project of The Black Keys' Dan Auerbach. Got 6 adds this week, goes for adds next week:
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Post by H. on Jul 1, 2015 10:48:07 GMT -5
Oh, I like this.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jul 1, 2015 12:20:17 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting. Sounds a bit more psychedelic than what he does with the Black Keys. Definitely could be a grower.
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Post by American Idiot on Jul 1, 2015 15:14:30 GMT -5
I think I like this better than anything the Black Keys have put out over the last two years.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 3, 2015 2:51:48 GMT -5
Nice Flashback to the Psychedelic 60s. Loving the Psychedelic side of Alt.,but is it a download? f**kin a right it is. BTW, "Stay In My Corner" is also great.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 3, 2015 6:04:26 GMT -5
Top 50 on Alternative:
0 49 ARCS Outta My Mind 156 0 156 0.673
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Post by Troy on Jul 3, 2015 8:12:20 GMT -5
sounds good & unlike anything else on the chart - you can be sure that I'll be playlisting this
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Post by wheatsquares33 on Jul 3, 2015 10:28:39 GMT -5
Maybe this will grow on me...? First listen, and I'm not impressed. I've never really like the Black Keys or Dan's vocals (though I do applaud his guitar skills), and this kind of sounds like every other Black Keys song ever. I bet this'll go Top 20 on Alt, though. Maybe crack the Top 50 on Active. Top 20 on Triple A? I don't know.
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Post by Pipa on Jul 3, 2015 20:05:41 GMT -5
This sounds like it was supposed to be the third single to "Turn Blue".
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 5, 2015 6:08:48 GMT -5
Top 50 on AAA:
0 46 ARCS Outta My Mind 80 0 80 0.189
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Post by Cody on Jul 5, 2015 14:01:51 GMT -5
Nice Flashback to the Psychedelic 60s. Loving the Psychedelic side of Alt.,but is it a download? f**kin a right it is. BTW, "Stay In My Corner" is also great. So if this goes top 10, it won't be because of payola like James Bay, Elle King, and Vance Joy right? Also, I like this, but I think all 3 Black Keys singles from Turn Blue are better.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 6, 2015 0:57:27 GMT -5
Nice Flashback to the Psychedelic 60s. Loving the Psychedelic side of Alt.,but is it a download? f**kin a right it is. BTW, "Stay In My Corner" is also great. So if this goes top 10, it won't be because of payola like James Bay, Elle King, and Vance Joy right? Also, I like this, but I think all 3 Black Keys singles from Turn Blue are better. Wrong Cody. First off Black Keys are established Alt artists. Everyone will know this is Black Keys side Project. There is no need for payloa nor corporate playlists. 91x Jumped on it right away for its quality. As I'm sure other Alt stations will by the numbers. Besides this is Alt radio music done blindly by the numbers. It has almost 0% chance of pop crossover if we take into concideration what is concidered pop today. I seriously doubt anyone here would say this doesn't fit the Alt radio formatt? My beef with Elle King isn't the music; which is pretty cool. It's is pretty much the beaf that was with alot of you with Sydney Sierota, from Echosmith and her Pop like vocals was on the Alt chart. It's just that I'm on the other side of the argument this time. and besides songs like that and "Reflections" "Mother and Father" didn't turn the whole Alt chart upside down. They performed more or less as expected. BTW, James bay isn't too bad. You shoulda included "Renegades" instead. That's the thorn in the side for Alt radio right now.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 6, 2015 0:59:13 GMT -5
So if this goes top 10, it won't be because of payola like James Bay, Elle King, and Vance Joy right? Also, I like this, but I think all 3 Black Keys singles from Turn Blue are better. Wrong Cody. First off Black Keys are established Alt artists. Everyone will know this is Black Keys side Project. There is no need for payloa nor corporate playlists. 91x Jumped on it right away for its quality. As I'm sure other Alt stations will by the numbers. Besides this is Alt radio music done blindly by the numbers. It has almost 0% chance of pop crossover if we take into concideration what is concidered pop today. I seriously doubt anyone here would say this doesn't fit the Alt radio formatt? My beef with Elle King isn't the music; which is pretty cool. It's is pretty much the beaf that was with alot of you with Sydney Sierota, from Echosmith and her Pop like vocals was on the Alt chart. It's just that I'm on the other side of the argument this time. and besides songs like that and "Reflections" "Mother and Father" didn't turn the whole Alt chart upside down. They performed more or less as expected. BTW, James bay isn't too bad. You shoulda included "Renegades" instead. That's the thorn in the side for Alt radio right now. its a joke
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 6, 2015 1:17:29 GMT -5
Wrong Cody. First off Black Keys are established Alt artists. Everyone will know this is Black Keys side Project. There is no need for payloa nor corporate playlists. 91x Jumped on it right away for its quality. As I'm sure other Alt stations will by the numbers. Besides this is Alt radio music done blindly by the numbers. It has almost 0% chance of pop crossover if we take into concideration what is concidered pop today. I seriously doubt anyone here would say this doesn't fit the Alt radio formatt? My beef with Elle King isn't the music; which is pretty cool. It's is pretty much the beaf that was with alot of you with Sydney Sierota, from Echosmith and her Pop like vocals was on the Alt chart. It's just that I'm on the other side of the argument this time. and besides songs like that and "Reflections" "Mother and Father" didn't turn the whole Alt chart upside down. They performed more or less as expected. BTW, James bay isn't too bad. You shoulda included "Renegades" instead. That's the thorn in the side for Alt radio right now. its a jokeDon't matter. It's worth me explaining, so you know where I'm coming from.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 7, 2015 6:06:43 GMT -5
Top 40 on AAA:
273 37 ARCS Outta My Mind 106 8 98 0.22
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 8, 2015 6:04:53 GMT -5
Top 40 on Alternative:
71 40 ARCS Outta My Mind 278 74 204 0.902
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Post by ben777 on Jul 8, 2015 22:52:51 GMT -5
So if this goes top 10, it won't be because of payola like James Bay, Elle King, and Vance Joy right? Also, I like this, but I think all 3 Black Keys singles from Turn Blue are better. Wrong Cody. First off Black Keys are established Alt artists. Everyone will know this is Black Keys side Project. There is no need for payloa nor corporate playlists. 91x Jumped on it right away for its quality. As I'm sure other Alt stations will by the numbers. Besides this is Alt radio music done blindly by the numbers. It has almost 0% chance of pop crossover if we take into concideration what is concidered pop today. I seriously doubt anyone here would say this doesn't fit the Alt radio formatt? I'm so confused about this payola thing - on the CHR chart, promotional deals are made involving core, established pop artists, like Selena Gomez, Maroon 5, and Taylor Swift, so if there was payola on the Alternative chart, it would involve core, established Alternative artists, like the Black Keys, that fit the format, not by acts that didn't seem to fit the format - otherwise, how would you ever get stations to agree to the deals?
If Alternative stations are playing artists that sound too pop for the format, IMO you can say that the stations are "selling out", becoming too "commercial", etc., but they're doing it in exchange for higher ratings, not for some kind of behind the scenes deal/promotion
I think that a lot of posters are using the term "payola" when they really mean "selling out"
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 8, 2015 23:04:57 GMT -5
ben777, if I were you, I would save my time and energy from responding to Dr. Indie's weird analogies and theories as they make zero sense at all and he's biased too. And he won't bother to listen to you.
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Post by ben777 on Jul 8, 2015 23:17:23 GMT -5
^Just so Dr. Indie doesn't hate me, I completely agree that stations playing Renegades and Ex's And Oh's 60 times a week are selling out for money, but they're doing it for ratings money, not for some kind of behind the scenes payoff
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 8, 2015 23:28:34 GMT -5
I think Renegades wouldn't have crossed 3000 spins without the OTV deal, but would go #1 anyway due to good callout scores.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 8, 2015 23:41:30 GMT -5
I think Renegades wouldn't have crossed 3000 spins without the OTV deal, but would go #1 anyway due to good callout scores. do good fallout scored really reflect on chart success? IIIRC there were a few #1s last year without good scores but I donate remember which
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 8, 2015 23:47:07 GMT -5
^Just so Dr. Indie doesn't hate me, I completely agree that stations playing Renegades and Ex's And Oh's 60 times a week are selling out for money, but they're doing it for ratings money, not for some kind of behind the scenes payoff I don't believe in payola in the smaller genres. Nor that stations are getting paid to play those crossovers. I do believe alot of Dee jays feel forced to play songs they don't concider alt and wouldn't otherwise play if not included in the corporate playlists. That's what I see going on in Alt radio stations. That's my main argument. and I think it's pretty valid regardless of what others might think?
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 8, 2015 23:47:05 GMT -5
I think Renegades wouldn't have crossed 3000 spins without the OTV deal, but would go #1 anyway due to good callout scores. do good fallout scored really reflect on chart success? IIIRC there were a few #1s last year without good scores but I donate remember which Yeah, when people like the song, they'll request radio stations to play it more. Renegades has the highest positive %. But the trend is not completely true, I remember Take Out the Gunman having great scores but missed the top 20. And Fever had poor callout scores and still has recurrent airplay. But yes, generally, the trend is true.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 8, 2015 23:51:27 GMT -5
Burn rate for Renefades must be huge, so I suppose it will slow down soon
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Post by ben777 on Jul 9, 2015 0:03:44 GMT -5
^Just so Dr. Indie doesn't hate me, I completely agree that stations playing Renegades and Ex's And Oh's 60 times a week are selling out for money, but they're doing it for ratings money, not for some kind of behind the scenes payoff I don't believe in payola in the smaller genres. Nor that stations are getting paid to play those crossovers. I do believe alot of Dee jays feel forced to play songs they don't concider alt and wouldn't otherwise play if not included in the corporate playlists. Yeah, I agree completely - only thing is, the "corporate playlist" part can't be right, because more than half of the Mediabase Alternative panel is independently owned - IHeart Media, Cumulus, and CBS can completely control the CHR chart, but there is absolutely no way they can control the Alternative chart, owning less than 1/3 of the stations
I don't think the DJs are playing songs they don't consider Alt because of some corporate playlist - I think they're playing these songs because the station PDs are telling them they have to in order for the station to make money - and I really think that's a decision that's being made by each PD of each Alternative station, for financial reasons
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Post by ben777 on Jul 9, 2015 0:22:53 GMT -5
do good fallout scored really reflect on chart success? IIIRC there were a few #1s last year without good scores but I donate remember which But the trend is not completely true, I remember Take Out the Gunman having great scores but missed the top 20. Songs that are polarizing I think end up artificially high in callout, especially if a list of the songs is used rather than an actual musical sample, because a lot of people who dislike the song haven't heard it in its entirety, and mark it is as unfamiliar, so the callout score becomes an average of only the people who like it enough to listen to the whole song - I know RTM.com has that problem anway
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 9, 2015 0:28:11 GMT -5
But the trend is not completely true, I remember Take Out the Gunman having great scores but missed the top 20. Songs that are polarizing I think end up artificially high in callout, especially if a list of the songs is used rather than an actual musical sample, because a lot of people who dislike the song haven't heard it in its entirety, and mark it is as unfamiliar, so the callout score becomes an average of only the people who like it enough to listen to the whole song - I know RTM.com has that problem anway No wonder why the country callout scores sucks, where traditional country gets poor callout scores and bro-country/country pop gets the highest scores >:(
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Post by ben777 on Jul 9, 2015 0:37:01 GMT -5
^Yeah, I remember being super excited that "Chocolate" by the 1975 had such high callout on RTM.com, and then stations started dropping it left and right, apparently bc the people who didn't love it absolutely hated it
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 9, 2015 6:06:03 GMT -5
Top 30 on AAA:
91 28 ARCS Outta My Mind 146 29 117 0.293
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 8:23:43 GMT -5
I don't like it as much as any of the Turn Blue singles, but I like it.
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