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Post by DiscoπΆοΈπ on Oct 10, 2015 0:03:56 GMT -5
One could make an argument that anything an artist does is a gimmick so every one has a gimmick of some sort. And the ones who claim they don't, that is a gimmick too.
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Post by redrooster on Oct 10, 2015 5:43:44 GMT -5
So the argument now is that Beyonce is a novelty act while everybody and their mother's dog should know about Carly Rae Jepsen having more than one hit? Beyonce is a novelty act tho. She is most famous for Single Ladies and "The 'to the left, to the left'" song. And it's pretty much nonsense that you would ever think to call Carly a one hit wonder when she has more than one multi-platinum hit in the USA.
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Post by redrooster on Oct 10, 2015 5:51:42 GMT -5
That's not true. Plenty of artists who were huge in their primes (with a boatload of hits to boot) are seen as novelty acts now. Think Rick Springfield, Rick Astley or Survivor. And nothing you say can change the fact that Carly had followup singles that are/were legitimate hits. None of these 80s hitmakers can, or ever could, really be seen as a novelty act (though Survivor probably are known to many as "the Rocky band".) All had a number of hits, none of which was really novelty-oriented in its content (I don't consider film soundtrack hits to be novelties unless they were really weird or unusual sounding or meant as such.) While radio stations 25 or 30 years later might overplay one song and short-shrift the rest, that doesn't make them novelty artists or one-hit wonders. The only novelty-ish thing about Rick Astley that I can think of is the "Rickroll" internet gimmick/meme, and that was 20 years after the song was a hit. He certainly wasn't viewed that way originally. Watchmojo calls Rick Astley a one hit wonder on their top 10 Internet memes video. And the funny thing is that unlike his contemporaries, he has managed to find a way to stay relevant. But that somehow makes him a one hit wonder.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 10, 2015 8:23:56 GMT -5
So the argument now is that Beyonce is a novelty act while everybody and their mother's dog should know about Carly Rae Jepsen having more than one hit? Beyonce is a novelty act tho. She is most famous for Single Ladies and "The 'to the left, to the left'" song. And it's pretty much nonsense that you would ever think to call Carly a one hit wonder when she has more than one multi-platinum hit in the USA. Find me somewhere other than your own opinion that states Beyonce as a novelty act. Do you even know what a "novelty" act is? Come to think of it, I think you're also confused as to what a "one hit wonder" is too. But you're forgiven with that because a lot of chart followers take it literally when it tends to be a term used for artists known for one song, despite having multiple hits.
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Post by mkarns on Oct 10, 2015 9:19:06 GMT -5
So the argument now is that Beyonce is a novelty act while everybody and their mother's dog should know about Carly Rae Jepsen having more than one hit? Beyonce is a novelty act tho. She is most famous for Single Ladies and "The 'to the left, to the left'" song. And it's pretty much nonsense that you would ever think to call Carly a one hit wonder when she has more than one multi-platinum hit in the USA. Incidentally, that "to the left" song is called "Irreplaceable". Inability to recall or even look up the title of a #1 hit that you cite as one of her most famous songs does not strengthen your argument.
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Post by Wave. on Oct 10, 2015 9:22:54 GMT -5
So the argument now is that Beyonce is a novelty act while everybody and their mother's dog should know about Carly Rae Jepsen having more than one hit? Beyonce is a novelty act tho. She is most famous for Single Ladies and "The 'to the left, to the left'" song. And it's pretty much nonsense that you would ever think to call Carly a one hit wonder when she has more than one multi-platinum hit in the USA. She has more songs she is famous for. Stop that mess and educate yourself before making that statement.
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Post by lyhom on Oct 10, 2015 9:27:02 GMT -5
i'd honestly say more but they're just saying the same things they were when they started so...
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Post by H. on Oct 10, 2015 9:34:53 GMT -5
Rick Springfield has more acts than the call me maybe singer. Beyonce isn't a novelty act?
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Post by redrooster on Oct 10, 2015 12:27:06 GMT -5
Beyonce is a novelty act tho. She is most famous for Single Ladies and "The 'to the left, to the left'" song. And it's pretty much nonsense that you would ever think to call Carly a one hit wonder when she has more than one multi-platinum hit in the USA. Incidentally, that "to the left" song is called "Irreplaceable". Inability to recall or even look up the title of a #1 hit that you cite as one of her most famous songs does not strengthen your argument. I knew the name of the song. But today it is known as that "to the left" song
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Post by lyhom on Oct 10, 2015 12:33:00 GMT -5
except it isn't.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 10, 2015 12:55:51 GMT -5
Incidentally, that "to the left" song is called "Irreplaceable". Inability to recall or even look up the title of a #1 hit that you cite as one of her most famous songs does not strengthen your argument. I knew the name of the song. But today it is known as that "to the left" song By you, and...? I've literally never heard it called that - ever. Even when you call it that I block it out because it's so stupidly ridiculous.
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Post by DiscoπΆοΈπ on Oct 10, 2015 13:14:10 GMT -5
For me, "Crazy In Love" and "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)" are the first two that comes to mind just because of how they were everywhere and they are still favorites by many and so beloved. The latter made a significant cultural impact and the former is just so amazing so that is impact on its own.
"No, No, No (Remix)", "Say My Name", "Independent Women", and "Bootylicious" are the ones that come to mind for me first when I think of Destiny's Child.
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Post by redrooster on Oct 10, 2015 15:49:28 GMT -5
Back to the point, this is the "unpopular opinions thread" so I don't see why you guys are so butthurt. It is the very definition of what this thread is asking for.
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 10, 2015 16:05:15 GMT -5
Your opinion's not 'unpopular' though, it's just flat-out wrong, and you refuse to listen to the (substantial) counter-argument.
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Post by surfy on Oct 10, 2015 18:09:24 GMT -5
Beyonce is considered one of the top-tier acts of this past decade. Get back with that mess...
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Post by Future Captain on Oct 10, 2015 20:32:08 GMT -5
Can somebody just pull a Glove Slap already and compile all the time he mentioned Beyonce as a novelty act and put the respective gifs? I'm on mobile, so...
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Post by Dielawn on Oct 14, 2015 2:11:07 GMT -5
Rick Astley had a string of hits in the late 80's/early 90's. Nobody considers him a one-hit wonder.
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Post by Josh Spicer on Oct 14, 2015 5:57:50 GMT -5
Rick Astley had a string of hits in the late 80's/early 90's. Nobody considers him a one-hit wonder. Technically he really only had the two, but since that's the two people know him for, they don't consider a 1HW, so your point is still accurate.
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Post by House Lannister on Oct 14, 2015 17:08:25 GMT -5
- I think the current format for the Billboard Hot 100 works, but is severely flawed since only 6 seconds equates to a "stream".
For the streaming points, here are two rules I think Billboard should implement. Only the song's official video should count. Not videos that use short clips of the song, not videos of people dancing/lip-synching to the song and not commercials that use the song. That would have kept songs like Livin' On a Prayer and Only Time from re-entering the chart for one week due to viral videos using the song and would have kept Harlem Shake from debuting at #1. A song's streams should only be "allowed" to count if the song also makes it on one of the other compenent charts (radio, on-demand, digital). That would have kept most viral songs like Chinese Food, We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow and Gentleman from making the chart. However, this wouldn't have stopped Harlem Shake or The Fox from making the Hot 100 because both songs made the Digital Songs top 10. It probably wouldn't have stopped #selfie from making the chart either because it crossed over to radio. But songs that were only popular on YouTube wouldn't be able to make the Hot 100 anymore. Just finding out that it charted.
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Post by Dielawn on Oct 14, 2015 22:11:15 GMT -5
Rick Astley had a string of hits in the late 80's/early 90's. Nobody considers him a one-hit wonder. Technically he really only had the two, but since that's the two people know him for, they don't consider a 1HW, so your point is still accurate. Β Β Β No technically he had multiple top-10's on the billboard AND airplay chart. Smh
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Post by redrooster on Oct 19, 2015 0:20:30 GMT -5
Your opinion's not 'unpopular' though, it's just flat-out wrong, and you refuse to listen to the (substantial) counter-argument. I could say the same thing to everyone who calls Carly Rae Jepsen and Soulja Boy one hit wonders.
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Post by Future Captain on Nov 19, 2015 10:13:03 GMT -5
Bumping this.
As much as I love Taylor,
Kesha's songwriting > Taylor's songwriting
But you gotta dig up a little on Kesha's back catalogue to find what I'm talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 11:16:25 GMT -5
Colton1's threads are fascinating.
Sarcasm. That user finally went too far.
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Post by MTSChart21 on Nov 19, 2015 12:31:44 GMT -5
Okay, no one will agree with me, but Justin Bieber's album "Purpose" is one of the best albums I have heard in a long time (since around 2005 or so). And this is coming from a person that didn't like or care for Justin Bieber a few years ago. I didn't hate him, but didn't really like him that much. I am a straight guy too.
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Post by skizzo on Nov 19, 2015 14:12:49 GMT -5
Adele's music is overrated to the extreme.
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Post by divasummer on Nov 20, 2015 11:36:18 GMT -5
Rick Astley had a string of hits in the late 80's/early 90's. Nobody considers him a one-hit wonder. Technically he really only had the two, but since that's the two people know him for, they don't consider a 1HW, so your point is still accurate. Rick Astley has 5 US Top 10 hits and another few that reached the Top 30-40 level.
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Post by Unhinged on Nov 20, 2015 11:48:56 GMT -5
Adele's music is overrated to the extreme. I'm with you on that. I just don't "get it" I guess...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 13:12:05 GMT -5
Adele's music is overrated to the extreme. I'm with you on that. I just don't "get it" I guess... Adele's an interesting case for me. I understand her appeal, but I don't care for her music much at all. Seeing her break every record imaginable is incredible, but I'm not going to rush out and buy "25" simply so I can say I was a part of her historic success. I keep hearing people say her music is amazing, she makes "real" music, etc. and I can't help but think she's getting more credit than she deserves in that regard. Adele can sell a song like nobody's business, but there are also plenty of others that can do the same thing. Just because Adele is far from your typical Pop star doesn't mean that she's the only "real" one, and everyone else must be s**t. Everyone goes on about how her music sells first, but no one mentions that she's also extremely likable, beautiful, and (like every other artist on Earth), she sells an image. Seeing someone smash so effortlessly in this day and age is awesome, but I do think people get carried away with the "Adele is real music" and "She's only about the music" kind of praise. Just because she isn't your typical skinny, airhead Pop star doesn't mean she isn't selling an image that is prepped and perfected for the masses.
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Post by BDGeek on Nov 24, 2015 23:10:34 GMT -5
I'm with you on that. I just don't "get it" I guess... Adele's an interesting case for me. I understand her appeal, but I don't care for her music much at all. Seeing her break every record imaginable is incredible, but I'm not going to rush out and buy "25" simply so I can say I was a part of her historic success. I keep hearing people say her music is amazing, she makes "real" music, etc. and I can't help but think she's getting more credit than she deserves in that regard. Adele can sell a song like nobody's business, but there are also plenty of others that can do the same thing. Just because Adele is far from your typical Pop star doesn't mean that she's the only "real" one, and everyone else must be s**t. Everyone goes on about how her music sells first, but no one mentions that she's also extremely likable, beautiful, and (like every other artist on Earth), she sells an image. Seeing someone smash so effortlessly in this day and age is awesome, but I do think people get carried away with the "Adele is real music" and "She's only about the music" kind of praise. Just because she isn't your typical skinny, airhead Pop star doesn't mean she isn't selling an image that is prepped and perfected for the masses. I think the way her broad appeal motivates people to buy her albums in droves is what creates the hype that she's this be-all, end-all talent. I mean, look at all the demographics she appeals to: 1. Curvier girls/women who want a curvier celebrity to relate to 2. Beckys who need their breakup anthems 3. Gays who need their big-voiced divas 4. Moms who want stay hip with the kids/relive their Carole King Tapestry days 5. Musicians & music fans who want to keep up with general industry trends 6. Indie-leaning music fans who generally shun pop music, but like Adele because her vocal style is closer to their usual preference Fulfill all of these needs with an attractive, fun-yet-mysterious woman in a tasteful black dress, and you've got a recipe for success. Even if her music is good but not great, she's got so many markets cornered that she'll sell regardless. The resulting massive sales numbers perpetuate the idea that her talent, too, is massive, whether you believe it is or not. Note: I do believe Adele is quite talented, but was trying to look at her success as objectively as possible.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Nov 24, 2015 23:23:58 GMT -5
I think Nina Persson's solo album from last year is very comparable and much better than 25. Someone else who's heard Nina's album!
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