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Post by allow that on Sept 4, 2015 8:44:43 GMT -5
We've spoken on end about how "dancepop" is dated, but in truth dancepop is just as strong now as it ever was. Its sound has just evolved with the years. EDM is now on its way out; deep house and tropical house are on the come up. Look how well Justin's being embraced with a fresh sound within dancepop. The problem with "Levels" is that it's influenced by the cheesy type of EDM drop that's well over its radio hump now (but maybe they knew that and it's why they put the retro filter over this song too?)
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Post by HellaGood on Sept 4, 2015 12:26:11 GMT -5
33 30 NICK JONAS Levels 2479 1518 961 14.238 +136 Spins -97 Bullet +0.784 Audience Doing good on radio! I think this will be a decent hit for him. It's stable on iTunes with new releases. Levels #24 Canada (-2)#31 South Africa (-7) #34 United States (-2)#36 Mexico (+4)
#40 New Zealand (-2)
#65 Australia (-3)#101 Denmark (+47)
#121 Ireland (NE)
#199 United Kingdom (NE)
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Sept 4, 2015 13:57:17 GMT -5
We've spoken on end about how "dancepop" is dated, but in truth dancepop is just as strong now as it ever was. Its sound has just evolved with the years. EDM is now on its way out; deep house and tropical house are on the come up. Look how well Justin's being embraced with a fresh sound within dancepop. The problem with "Levels" is that it's influenced by the cheesy type of EDM drop that's well over its radio hump now (but maybe they knew that and it's why they put the retro filter over this song too?) One person I know who is friendly with the remix A&R people at several of the labels says that there may be no remixes commissioned for "Levels" as the single has "underperformed". And that the label is scrambling to figure out what to do next as some of the new songs already recorded were identical style-wise as this, "Teacher", and "Jealous"/"Good Thing" and since some of those types of songs haven't been doing that well ("Cheyenne"). I think the sex appeal and hot photoshoots will only get him so far. People won't just buy a song because the singer looks good in and out of his clothes (there might be 2 or 3 out there somewhere who would). His social media presence and engagement with fans is limited to just announcing projects and the occasional Reddit AMAs (which don't seem like a thing now). On my Facebook feed during the VMAs, many commented on how they felt Nick lacks the stage presence and doesn't have the star quality that some of the less talented ones still have. They feel he's really low-key. It has been said by many that he's nice and down to earth when he interacts with fans and stuff so they feel his whole nice guy with a little bit of edge persona is a hindrance to him because they feel he lacks the gumption, ego, and arrogance of a "real man." It also doesn't help that according to my industry contact that Nick and his team don't like to promote too much (he must have performed "Jealous" hundreds of times on TV) on the basis that if a song has truly connected with the audience, they should not have to ram it down their throats to make it a hit as some have done but then it had no staying power.
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Post by #brayden on Sept 4, 2015 14:22:12 GMT -5
Has this even been out for a week, though? It seems a bit early for the label to be deeming this an "underperformer". This song is kind of lurking in the shadows of new releases from bigger artists, but it's still doing well enough for a song that most people probably aren't even aware is out. Give it time...
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Sept 4, 2015 14:26:50 GMT -5
Has this even been out for a week, though? It seems a bit early for the label to be deeming this an "underperformer". This song is kind of lurking in the shadows of new releases from bigger artists, but it's still doing well enough for a song that most people probably aren't even aware is out. Give it time... I know right? It's like they are going through the whole "the sky is falling!" mentality when something isn't immediately huge. We of course see some screaming "FLOP!" as soon as something hasn't debuted high enough. Don't even get me started on those radio deals. I think a slow to medium rise over several weeks is better than a quick rise, quick peak, and then even quicker fall. The time to worry is when it has reached the 20s and the sales haven't picked up despite the increased exposure.
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Post by maine on Sept 4, 2015 14:52:36 GMT -5
This is decent. I think "Numb" and "Teacher" are better, but this seems like a grower. ETA: The 'oooh oooh oooh''s in the bridge sound like Talay. Hmm. Not that anyone cares but myself, but the bridge is Talay. The oooh's are sampled straight from an old demo from his.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Sept 4, 2015 21:58:24 GMT -5
We've spoken on end about how "dancepop" is dated, but in truth dancepop is just as strong now as it ever was. Its sound has just evolved with the years. EDM is now on its way out; deep house and tropical house are on the come up. Look how well Justin's being embraced with a fresh sound within dancepop. The problem with "Levels" is that it's influenced by the cheesy type of EDM drop that's well over its radio hump now (but maybe they knew that and it's why they put the retro filter over this song too?) I agree. But isn't tropical/deep house a type of EDM?
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Sept 4, 2015 23:11:40 GMT -5
We've spoken on end about how "dancepop" is dated, but in truth dancepop is just as strong now as it ever was. Its sound has just evolved with the years. EDM is now on its way out; deep house and tropical house are on the come up. Look how well Justin's being embraced with a fresh sound within dancepop. The problem with "Levels" is that it's influenced by the cheesy type of EDM drop that's well over its radio hump now (but maybe they knew that and it's why they put the retro filter over this song too?) I agree. But isn't tropical/deep house a type of EDM? EDM has also been a blanket term for the cheesey over the top type of Dance music that has been popular on radio for the last few years but has begun to fall out of favor. It's nice to hear other styles such as Tropical and Deep House getting acceptance on radio.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 5, 2015 5:04:50 GMT -5
35 30 NICK JONAS Levels 2646 1517 1129 15.262
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Post by The Upper Hand on Sept 5, 2015 8:57:42 GMT -5
Good update
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 5, 2015 17:09:20 GMT -5
New Nick song "Area Code" soundcloud.com/nickjonasmusic/area-code[Verse 1] I'm in your area code I hit you up, are you alone? So many places this could go Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah I'm fucked up, you don't even know Baby, it's better that you don't I'm guessing now my cover's blown Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah , oh yeah [Chorus] Don't know why I do it, but I do Yeah, every time I have a drink or two Get it bad of you And I don't know why I do it but I do Yeah, all this liquor bringing out the truth [Verse 2] And I, we both remember what we said But let's agree to just forget It's late night, you should go to bed Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah , oh yeah You say I never been good for you You can't deny I gave it good to you We made it unforgettable, crazy And I'm hoping I could let you in [Chorus] Don't know why I do it, but I do Yeah, every time I have a drink or two Get it bad of you And I don't know why I do it but I do Yeah, all this liquor bringing out the truth Don't know why I do it, but I do Don't know why I do it, but I, but, I
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Sept 5, 2015 17:22:44 GMT -5
"Area Codes" sounds like it is inspired by "The Hills." It has that same dark vibe to it which is fine because I like that song. It also reminds me of Fetty Wap's recent singles. It's begging for a verse by Tinashe.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Sept 6, 2015 1:21:47 GMT -5
"You say I never been good for you You can't deny I gave it good to you"
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 6, 2015 6:17:10 GMT -5
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Post by Dylan :) on Sept 6, 2015 6:22:35 GMT -5
This has grown on me a lot
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 6, 2015 8:27:14 GMT -5
We've spoken on end about how "dancepop" is dated, but in truth dancepop is just as strong now as it ever was. Its sound has just evolved with the years. EDM is now on its way out; deep house and tropical house are on the come up. Look how well Justin's being embraced with a fresh sound within dancepop. The problem with "Levels" is that it's influenced by the cheesy type of EDM drop that's well over its radio hump now (but maybe they knew that and it's why they put the retro filter over this song too?) One person I know who is friendly with the remix A&R people at several of the labels says that there may be no remixes commissioned for "Levels" as the single has "underperformed". And that the label is scrambling to figure out what to do next as some of the new songs already recorded were identical style-wise as this, "Teacher", and "Jealous"/"Good Thing" and since some of those types of songs haven't been doing that well ("Cheyenne"). I think the sex appeal and hot photoshoots will only get him so far. People won't just buy a song because the singer looks good in and out of his clothes (there might be 2 or 3 out there somewhere who would). His social media presence and engagement with fans is limited to just announcing projects and the occasional Reddit AMAs (which don't seem like a thing now). On my Facebook feed during the VMAs, many commented on how they felt Nick lacks the stage presence and doesn't have the star quality that some of the less talented ones still have. They feel he's really low-key. It has been said by many that he's nice and down to earth when he interacts with fans and stuff so they feel his whole nice guy with a little bit of edge persona is a hindrance to him because they feel he lacks the gumption, ego, and arrogance of a "real man." It also doesn't help that according to my industry contact that Nick and his team don't like to promote too much (he must have performed "Jealous" hundreds of times on TV) on the basis that if a song has truly connected with the audience, they should not have to ram it down their throats to make it a hit as some have done but then it had no staying power. If on the label they are thinking that they should try another business becasue they don't know anything at all about music and how this works. Some of the biggest hits have slow starts. He is not Taylor Swift, so there's no reason to think this will be an instant top 10. Jealous and Chains were hits, but let's be realistic, he came from a teen band that were on its lowest in terms of popularity when he really started his solo career. Built a career needs time. I remember people commenting that U2 will never be the group they are if they started their career now, because they didn't find success till the third album Patience is very important in every business, and music is not different. If a lable only wants inmediate success they will never find an artist with a long career, only a bunch of flavor of the month singers And the song is top 50 on itunes, which is not that bad for the amount of airplay it received
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Post by smokebreak on Sept 6, 2015 8:40:12 GMT -5
This song has also grown on me. At first, I hated it and thought it was his worst single, but now it may be my favorite! Go Nick!
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 7, 2015 8:10:27 GMT -5
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Post by divasummer on Sept 7, 2015 18:55:32 GMT -5
I hope radio isn't dropping this already. It's strange that when the poster with a little inside info said the label basically didn't want to promote it anymore, within a couple if days it starts to get crappy updates.....
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Sept 8, 2015 3:26:10 GMT -5
I hope radio isn't dropping this already. It's strange that when the poster with a little inside info said the label basically didn't want to promote it anymore, within a couple if days it starts to get crappy updates..... I hear "Levels" on the CHR/Pop station in my market pretty regularly. They have been pretty supportive of both singles from the last album and even "Good Thing". They still play the latter occasionally even though it underperformed. I think the spins may have dropped due to it being the Labor Day weekend and some stations have specialty programming. At another message board I post at, they were discussing this song too and one thing that we noticed now that we had sort of forgotten about was that all of the previous singles and the last album were released on Republic via Island Records. But this time, "Levels" is on Nick and Demi's new label Safehouse Records. We wondered if that has affected the type and amount of promotion. It is the first single released with this arrangement, but if there is less support as a result of this new endeavor, this could be problematic with future singles.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 8, 2015 5:12:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 22:36:20 GMT -5
On the Hot 100 in its 2nd week, this benefited from the VMA's, but only flies 17 spots to #70.
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Post by AP on Sept 8, 2015 22:41:18 GMT -5
Things aren't looking great for this, but it is worth mentioning that it got an additional 31 adds this week and was the most-added. Could be a slow-rising, slow-burning single (Chains & Jealous both were)
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Post by maine on Sept 8, 2015 23:15:26 GMT -5
I mean, it's at #40 on iTunes. I wasn't expecting this to come out of the gates at full speed. I'm guessing this'll rise slowly.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 9, 2015 5:09:36 GMT -5
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 9, 2015 12:26:29 GMT -5
It took a long time for Jealous and Chains to peak. I'm not too worried about this yet
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 10, 2015 5:35:34 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 11, 2015 5:05:43 GMT -5
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Post by suttonplace on Sept 11, 2015 12:59:46 GMT -5
Am scratching my head at any claim that this song isn't doing well...it had one week where it cooled off a little, but even then it was mostly getting triple digit spin increases...now its back to +200s again and its bullet is almost back over 1000. I think with all of the hourly spin deals and outliers enjoying career highs like Taylor people may have lost perspective as to what a good performing (airplay wise) song looks like...its been out for, what, 2-3 weeks and its already 25? Will likely be in top 20 next week? that's a pretty great performance for a song that didn't get an iheart hourly deal or an OTV deal...anyway, I like this song
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 11, 2015 13:01:49 GMT -5
I love this!
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