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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 17, 2015 15:48:43 GMT -5
I assume that's more of a mixtape situation. I don't imagine Future being a part of a million-selling album, other than as a featured artist.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Sept 17, 2015 17:44:06 GMT -5
Fetty Wap won't scan a million but I'd almost put money on him opening over 150k pure sales and having legs to get to 500
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 23, 2015 9:16:22 GMT -5
And now we have Adele! hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=297781Wednesday, September 23, 2015 LOOK OUT, HERE COMES ADELENew Album, New Deal, New Fleet of TV Looks Set to Dominate Q4 The long-awaited return of XL/Columbia’s Adele is slated for 11/20, and is naturally expected to have a seismic impact on the remainder of the year. Expect the leadoff single to drop in the first or second week of November. The forthcoming album is the last on Adele’s Sony/XL deal; insiders say she has already inked a new worldwide deal with Sony, said to be valued at more than $50 million. The British superstar has inked a lockout deal with NBC for four big TV looks, including The Today Show, SNL, a dedicated special and one more appearance TBA (possibly Fallon). The exclusive deal will not, however, prevent Adele from appearing on the 2016 Grammys. Adele’s 2011 set 21 has sold 11.1 million copies (13.5m+ with TEA) in the U.S. thus far, and more than 30m worldwide.
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Post by DJ General on Sept 23, 2015 14:31:16 GMT -5
Fetty Wap I think will really surprise. Every song he has put out on iTunes has been pretty massive just beyond the typical one or two day rise and fall. He will be one of the rappers people come into the HDD thread and say "What? Who? How? When?" etc. and everyone will just laugh. I wouldn't be shocked at all if he was doing 200-300k.
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Post by DJ General on Sept 23, 2015 14:35:25 GMT -5
Look at how he is doing on iTunes right now:
#10 679 #20 RGF Island #24 Jugg #32 My Way #38 Again #49 Trap Queen
Bonus #88 $ave Dat Money (featured on track)
VERY impressive.
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Post by swim on Sept 23, 2015 19:29:46 GMT -5
According to HITS 1D sold 100k in preorders in its first day.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 24, 2015 2:36:36 GMT -5
Loving that 1D are now bigger than ever
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 26, 2015 4:05:00 GMT -5
Also liking the Fetty Wap album... this will open with 200k I'd say
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 29, 2015 12:37:31 GMT -5
They still haven't decided on the new Beyonce album???? Do labels not look at the calendar during the summer? (lol) hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=297860Tuesday, September 29, 2015 I.B. BAD: THE GUNS OF AUTUMNThis could be a big Q4 for the music biz, with potential blockbusters coming from the likes of 1D, Justin Bieber and, yes, the mighty Adele. This week, our industry insider delves into the details of these and other pivotal projects and how they could impact what is shaping up to be an extremely tight race for year-end marketshare honors. The new album from XL/Columbia’s Adele is expected to arrive on Nov. 20—prefaced by a single in early November. The forthcoming album is the last on Adele’s current deal with XL and Sony; sources say she has already inked a new exclusive worldwide deal with Sony said to be valued at north of $50m, keeping her on Rob Stringer’s Columbia for three more albums. Adele has inked a lockout deal with NBC for four TV projects— a prime-time TV special, a Today Show engagement, Saturday Night Live and one other look, possibly Fallon. The NBC deal will not prevent her from appearing on the 2016 Grammys Feb. 15 on CBS. What will the streaming component be, given Adele and manager Jonathan Dickins’ history? Her massive 21 was absent from Spotify apart from the first single because, in 2011, Daniel Ek refused to accept Adele and Dickins’ stipulation that the album be limited to the premium tier; Dickins has continued his premium crusade during the three and a half years since that impasse, which set the precedent for Taylor Swift’s subsequent stipulation of premium-only on 2012’s Red and again on 1989 last fall, which Ek similarly rejected—but these are different times, and things change—witness Spotify’s decision to take Drake & Future’s album following a five-day Apple exclusive just a few weeks after opting not to take Dr. Dre’s initially exclusive Compton. The Q4 blitz will involve a massive physical presence for the album—which could turn out to be the last smash to be closely associated with the compact disc—and will probably include a wall-to-wall Target campaign. Adele’s camp continues to be hush-hush about which of the 23 tracks that had been considered for inclusion have made the final cut. Among those producers and co-writers on the project are Max Martin, Greg Kurstin, Paul Epworth, Dan Wilson, Ryan Tedder, Jeff Bhasker and Tobias Jesso Jr. Adele is said to be 100% in charge of and invested in all creative decision-making. If the release date were to slip, would it bump to Dec. 3? Team Adele wants nothing to do with the shit show that ensues on Black Friday, which this year falls on Nov. 27. Adele’s selection of the Nov. 20 release date has already caused SYCO/Columbia’s One Direction to move the release of the group’s fifth album from that date to Nov. 13, putting it up against Def Jam’s Justin Bieber release. That means two of Q4’s most eagerly awaited recordings will go head-to-head for first-week supremacy—and with nearly identical target audiences at that. What’s more, two of the most prominent managers in the business will be on the same stage: Scooter Braun, a wizard of social-media marketing, and Richard Griffiths, whose track record during the last five years is considered by many to be without equal. On his upcoming album, the newly resurgent Bieber, riding high on the massive #1 single “What Do You Mean?” and the Top 10 hit “Where Are U Now,” is expected to deliver more of the EDM-inflected pop that has fueled his latest rocket ride. He’ll be dropping a new single a week before release. 1D, meanwhile, is dropping what looks to be their final release as a group, so the set could have significant commemorative value—even beyond the band’s usual appeal—despite the absence, thus far, of a big radio track. The 1D album is currently projected at around 350k. Bieber’s last album, 2013’s Believe Acoustic, debuted with 211k (giving him his fifth #1 prior to his 20th birthday). Bieber’s biggest first week was for 2012’s Believe, which bowed with 374k. 1D’s 2014 set, Four, moved 387k first week, while 2013’s Midnight Memories and 2012’s Take Me Home debuted with 546k and 540k, respectively. RTD sales with TEA appear in the graphic below. Will Bieber’s new heat give him the edge, or will the likely swan song of 1D power greater fan interest? Amid the building drama, the chatter continues about the imminent solo careers of the four remaining 1D members, who will become free agents in regard to their respective recording rights following the delivery of 1D’s fifth album, the final one under the deal with Simon Cowell and Sonny Takhar’s SYCO. The biggest questions surround the group’s primary heartthrob, Harry Styles. Insiders say that a Styles solo album could be released as early as next year at this time. With Adele and 1D in the wings, Stringer’s Columbia is shaping up to have another huge Q4. Stringer’s label could hit the trifecta if it gets a Beyoncé album in time for a 2015 release, although early 2016 remains a possibility. The new Naughty Boy single on Capitol featuring Beyoncé will be on her upcoming album. There was much conversation both within and between Slim and Baby’s Cash Money and L.A. Reid's Epic as to whether the Drake & Future mixtape would be free or made commercially available. It's believed that Epic was adamant about it being commercially released because the label is in mid-cycle on Future’s current album. This position by Epic helped get the album across the finish line for Cash Money and avoided a showdown with Drake over whether he’d fulfilled his release commitment under his CM deal, which has been a subject of much controversy. Insiders say this release does not preclude the possibility of a new album from Drake this year, which would form a potent one-two punch with The Weeknd for Republic during Q4. The album, the second surprise release from Drake during the last six months, cements the Canadian rapper’s status as the artist of the moment, eclipsing all others in the genre, with J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar his closest rivals. What impact did the first-week Apple exclusive have on the rights holders’ other retail and streaming partners? Rights holders are voicing their unhappiness about Apple’s proliferating worldwide exclusives; they would much rather see all retail and streaming outlets get their high-priority projects simultaneously. Apple Music streams in U.S. on hit acts are believed to be about half of Spotify paid streams. As Apple launches the latest phase in its marketing of the service—specifically, educating mainstream consumers as to what streaming is and does—Team Cupertino and the rights holders are waiting with bated breath to see what percentage of trial users will pony up for the $9.99 and $14.99 monthly subscriptions. This information will be a critical factor in determining Spotify’s leverage in its continuing negotiations with the major rights holders. In its favor, Spotify is much bigger than Apple in every territory that matters. A new, extremely dramatic chill in label relations is about to ensue concerning one top exec’s new employment agreement.
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Post by Wave. on Sept 29, 2015 13:51:04 GMT -5
Believe opened up with 375k in '12. I think he can reach that again, maybe 450k-500k.
21 opened up with 352k in '11. We all know what happened with this era. I'm thinking 700k-1 million.
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 29, 2015 15:24:43 GMT -5
I think Adele will open with big sales, but we can't forget Rolling in the deep was massive, so reaction to the first single will play a part. If the reaction is good i think she'll be near 1 million
First sales for 5SOS are surprising, i know they had a big open last time, it was bigger than Ed or Sam, but in the end they sale way less than both, and they didn't have any hit since then, so that prediction is quite optimistic (anyway with teen acts you never know).
I think Meghan and Sam could reach one million if christmas sales are good (it will be the second year in a row for Sam in case he gets there).
Then of course it will be the surprise christmas album of the year like last year's Pentatonix
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Post by Kurt on Sept 29, 2015 16:32:49 GMT -5
Hmm, would it be outlandish to suggest that Target might be opting out of Black Friday releases because they'll be filling the music section's shelves with Adele albums? They did have an exclusive deluxe edition for 21, so another one of those at the least for 25 wouldn't surprise me. I think Adele will open with big sales, but we can't forget Rolling in the deep was massive, so reaction to the first single will play a part. If the reaction is good i think she'll be near 1 million I think I disagree with this - 21 came out two months before "Rolling In The Deep" reached #1 on HAC radio, with another two months before it reached the top of the Hot 100, so I'm less concerned that slow performance of the lead single might hamper first-week sales, not to mention the fact that this time she'll have a ton of press talking about her return, as well as the aforementioned TV bookings (presuming HITS's reports are correct).
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 29, 2015 16:43:23 GMT -5
I've heard nothing about Xmas albums this year.
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Post by swim on Sept 29, 2015 18:27:34 GMT -5
Yeah Rolling in the Deep had such a slow rise to the top, it wasn't anything close to what it became when 21 was released. It had less of an impact on its first week sales, but highly impacted the endless weeks she sold 100k plus due to the discovery of the song.
At worst I see the album opening 600-700k. If everything comes together perfectly, I think it's pretty close to the sky being the limit. Great first single, perfect promo, etc. all should be in top form (they've had like four years to think about this) where she could easily scan 3 million by the end of the year. She obviously won't have the same number of weeks at 100k+ sold because everyone was discovering her this last time around, so the first few weeks of the release will be very telling.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 29, 2015 18:28:58 GMT -5
I've heard nothing about Xmas albums this year. Katy Perry's releasing one, apparently.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 30, 2015 15:14:02 GMT -5
^It's just a Xmas song for H&M. Not a Xmas album...
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 30, 2015 16:36:38 GMT -5
I thought I saw somewhere that Kenny Rogers and LeAnn Rimes are both releasing Xmas albums?
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Post by brucelover on Oct 2, 2015 2:31:03 GMT -5
I've heard nothing about Xmas albums this year. A Very Perry Christmas is coming.
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Post by jjose712 on Oct 2, 2015 7:09:47 GMT -5
Well, sometimes a christmas album doesn't need a big name behind to be a hit, i think nobody expected Pentatonix to sell 1 million last year
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Post by Future Captain on Oct 2, 2015 10:21:51 GMT -5
I've heard nothing about Xmas albums this year. A Very Perry Christmas is coming. Why does that sentence reminds me more of a platypus than the pop singer?
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Post by ctquartzsongbird on Oct 2, 2015 14:55:15 GMT -5
Yes Leann Rimes's Christmas album is released October 16th Kenny's Christmas album came out last week
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Oct 19, 2015 15:38:47 GMT -5
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Post by braveheart on Oct 19, 2015 16:10:33 GMT -5
Bieber's album is at 36k after 3 days of pre order... im pretty sure one directiosn 127k is from at least 3 weeks of pre order. so based on that bieber's numbers are slightly better
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Oct 19, 2015 16:15:59 GMT -5
Bieber's album is at 36k after 3 days of pre order... im pretty sure one directiosn 127k is from at least 3 weeks of pre order. so based on that bieber's numbers are slightly better 1D did over 100K on their first day. That's the difference. Bieber did less than half of that in three days. HDD finds it shocking that Bieber's fans didn't rush to iTunes like Directioners.
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Post by braveheart on Oct 19, 2015 18:41:15 GMT -5
1D has rabid fans.. thats not a surprise to me. that shows by the fact that 100k bought it on the first day ...while the 3 week total is only 127k which means most of the fans bought it the first day... 27k alone bought it in the remaining 3 weeks... will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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Post by forg on Oct 20, 2015 0:03:25 GMT -5
I think Bieber will win but still nice to see album sales battle
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Post by Disco🌶️📖 on Oct 20, 2015 1:09:33 GMT -5
I wonder what @walker9 thinks about all this. #QuestionsExisting
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 22, 2015 9:21:02 GMT -5
kanimal posted this in the album release date thread: hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=298171Thursday, October 22, 2015 FOUR WILD CARDSBeyoncé, Rihanna, Kanye, Coldplay and Navigating Q4How do the expected Q4 releases from Columbia’s Beyoncé (whose previous album bowed with 618k on 12/15/13), Roc Nation’s Rihanna (238k, 11/25/12), Def Jam’s Kanye West (327k, 6/23/13) and Parlophone’s Coldplay (383k, 5/25/14), all with release dates TBD, fit into the picture? Beyoncé will debut at #1 no matter when her album drops, apart from 11/20; otherwise, Adele is a heavy favorite to hold the top spot through the rest of the year. There appear to be two or three windows—Dec. 4, 11 and possibly the 18th—and the prognosticators believe a first week of 300k could knock Adele off the top perch. Considering their respective sales histories, Beyoncé and Coldplay have shown they can hit or surpass the magic number, while Rihanna’s previous five releases have averaged just under 200k, and Kanye’s track record is too erratic to make a call one way or the other. If Beyoncé’s album makes it this year, it will almost certainly crush the others, while Coldplay would outperform Rihanna and Kanye. And although Kanye is not hot record-wise, he should still outsell Rihanna, whose forthcoming album has no vibe yet. It’s also worth noting that there’s a Tidal connection to all four releases. The three solo artists and Chris Martin were all at the launch and all have business and personal relationships with Jay Z. Rights holders, meanwhile, shudder to think of how Tidal’s involvement could have a dramatic negative impact on the worldwide sales of any of those four releases. Tidal has still not paid licensing fees to the major rights holders, but because of Jay Z’s personal relationships he’s drawn a pass for now. No major rights holder wants to take the heat for shutting Tidal down because of the different artists’ involvement—and all assume this situation will resolve with either the service’s closure or its sale to a deeper pocket.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 27, 2015 17:11:39 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=298224Clearly, the initial order will need to be massive in order to blanket retail. Some handicappers believe 25 will debut with 1.5-1.7m, eclipsing the 1.3m first week of Swift’s 1989, though not approaching the record of 2.4m set by NSYNC’s No Strings Attached back in 2000.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 27, 2015 17:16:32 GMT -5
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