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Post by trebor on Nov 11, 2015 14:53:32 GMT -5
Blake has 1347 spins with Billboard [4.264M AI]. Don't forget that Canadia has a population of "only" <36M compared to >322M Also the panel consists of only 26 reporters (of which one or two are certainly video channels) Love the Canadian chart, btw...; it's so much more organic. ;) I already knew all of that, lol. Canada is a part of the community here in Buffalo since its so close to the border. The singles move so much quicker in Canada as well. Brett Kissel's singles absolutely fly up the chart and peak in less than three months time. I also like the fact that the majority of the tracks complete their 20 weeks and then regularly go recurrent while on their way down in the #20s or #30s.
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Post by razorback9926 on Nov 12, 2015 8:50:25 GMT -5
George moves 35-34 on Billboard this week for a new peak chart position. However, he lost his bullet, losing 0.5M in audience, and next week will be passed by Luke Bryan and Eric Church for sure, and maybe Chris Stapleton and Florida Georgia Line. We can probably etch "34" in stone as the official Billboard peak position for this song.
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Post by razorback9926 on Nov 16, 2015 11:59:38 GMT -5
CBC has reached a new audience peak for 2 straight days after several days of losing audience. So even though he's only at #40 on Mediabase, it's good news when his spin total and audience total are going up. Of course, the #1 song has 10x more spins and audience, so he's not even in the cold beer conversation of looking for #61.
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Post by Zazie on Nov 16, 2015 14:25:14 GMT -5
Too many songs are passing Strait's -- it's late in the year but nobody seems to be waiting to release their new singles until January. (Well, Kenny seems to be holding off.) Singles enjoying fast climbs are all over the place -- Bryan, Church, and now the phenomenon that is Chris Singleton -- it's very hard for CBC to compete for a top 30 position. But he did gain about half a million impressions over the last 7 days on MB, so maybe he'll gain 400k on tonight's Billboard chart. At least that would just about cancel out last week's Billboard audience loss.
I'll take tonight's Billboard re-bullet and just hope the song gets a few adds this week and starts climbing again. There are a whole bunch of songs that could head for recurrency in the next 3 weeks (Dan + Shay, Big & Rich, Parmalee, Hunter Hayes, and 2 or 3 others), and a housecleaning like that would be the only thing that could save CBC.
This is not doomed to peak at #34, but top 30 is mostly a dream.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 16, 2015 14:39:50 GMT -5
Too many songs are passing Strait's -- it's late in the year but nobody seems to be waiting to release their new singles until January. (Well, Kenny seems to be holding off.) Singles enjoying fast climbs are all over the place -- Bryan, Church, and now the phenomenon that is Chris Singleton -- it's very hard for CBC to compete for a top 30 position. But he did gain about half a million impressions over the last 7 days on MB, so maybe he'll gain 400k on tonight's Billboard chart. At least that would just about cancel out last week's Billboard audience loss. I'll take tonight's Billboard re-bullet and just hope the song gets a few adds this week and starts climbing again. There are a whole bunch of songs that could head for recurrency in the next 3 weeks (Dan + Shay, Big & Rich, Parmalee, Hunter Hayes, and 2 or 3 others), and a housecleaning like that would be the only thing that could save CBC. This is not doomed to peak at #34, but top 30 is mostly a dream. There's no way sugar-coating it, "Cold Beer Conversation" has leveled off. George has gained just 400k in total MB audience over the past three weeks and just 100k over the past two weeks. This song's release and chart climb is really not happening at a great time since there will be more high profile single releases come the new year and like you said, George has been passed by a multitude already here in November. I never expected this to do much beyond the top 30 but it looks as if that is guaranteed to be the absolute max (the more likely scenario is for this song to not be charting come this time in January).
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Post by razorback9926 on Nov 16, 2015 15:05:50 GMT -5
I guess I'm just enjoying seeing his name on the chart at all, I'm afraid we may not have (m)any more threads like this in the future.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 19, 2015 0:14:43 GMT -5
I drove all the way to Jacksonville and back over the course of four days. In that span I heard literally every song from #40 upward except for this one. Weird.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 19, 2015 0:16:58 GMT -5
I drove all the way to Jacksonville and back over the course of four days. In that span I heard literally every song from #40 upward except for this one. Weird. Too bad you don't listen to The Highway: they love playing CBC...and I'm so grateful for it.
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Post by dajross6 on Nov 19, 2015 2:42:10 GMT -5
I don't even have The Highway preset anymore and only switch to it if Prime Country or Y2Kountry is boring. I've heard The Highway is trying to veer back towards what country music is, but it's going to be a tough sell for me personally.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 8:44:24 GMT -5
Listened to Bob Kingsley's countdown show for the first time in ages, mostly because the first two songs played were this one and Chris Stapleton's. Granted, this isn't my favorite Strait song but it was heaven on earth to not only hear these two on radio, but to hear them back to back
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Post by Marv on Nov 26, 2015 4:11:37 GMT -5
^^^^^Mire irrefutable proof that mediocrity rules at today's country radio, and that 'Murder On Music Row' was spot-on then and certainly remains even more spot-on today in a sea of copycats where originality is in really short supply, which when you combine that with the indefensibly high number of MDs and PDs who are slaves to the national charts, then we all hear the disheartening results every single day.
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Post by Zazie on Nov 26, 2015 22:16:05 GMT -5
Top 30 and lasting through the holiday season (15+ weeks) is my low-end target, and it's far from a sure thing. (The song has to be bulleted on the 12/19 BB chart, or later, in order to stay through the holidays.) I don't speak or write out my bigger goals, so as not to jinx them. It's still possible, at least, whereas by this time AJ's recent single had already fallen off the chart.
It's hard to accept that this is country radio's verdict, but accept it I must. Maybe George can sneak in one big hit somehow.
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Post by straitbabe on Nov 28, 2015 1:35:31 GMT -5
CBC lost its bullet on Mediabase already. I expected radio to ignore the song for the most part. The fact it got to #38 or so is actually a pleasant surprise.
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Post by someguy on Nov 28, 2015 1:42:28 GMT -5
CBC lost its bullet on Mediabase already. I expected radio to ignore the song for the most part. The fact it got to #38 or so is actually a pleasant surprise. Yeah, today's update was not good at all. It doesn't necessarily mean the end for the song, but it can't afford too many updates like this.
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Post by Zazie on Nov 29, 2015 15:48:36 GMT -5
Sometimes I get confused, but it seems to me that the Strait song is up about 20 spins for the week on MB and safely bulleted on the chart that will be finalized late today. How long the bullet will last -- that's another question, but I'm hoping for at least 2 additional weeks.
I also expect the song to hold its bullet on Billboard, though that will be a closer race. He's up in spins for the week, so if that positive result translates over to BB as well, he'll bullet on the 12/12 chart as long as he avoids a loss of more than 150k in audience (a 3% loss or less). (Of course if he gains in audience, he'll bullet no matter what the spins story is, and he can also bullet on BB with a small audience loss if numbers are generally down for the week, as typically happens in holiday weeks.
Whether the song can get to the top 30 on either chart is a different topic. I'm less confident but trying to keep my confidence up.
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Post by razorback9926 on Nov 30, 2015 9:38:59 GMT -5
> Maybe George can sneak in one big hit somehow. A song about firemen, called "Bros. with Hose" featuring Florida Georgia Line. Whaddya think ?!
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Post by Zazie on Nov 30, 2015 10:59:56 GMT -5
> Maybe George can sneak in one big hit somehow. A song about firemen, called "Bros. with Hose" featuring Florida Georgia Line. Whaddya think ?! Works for me. Duets just might be the perfect strategy. "Bros with Ho's, Ho's with Hose, Bros with Hose (But Different Kinds of Hose)" might be the right title to usher in George's second (third?) career at radio. And there's nobody better suited to help than FlaGa. 60% chance CBC keeps its bullet on tonight's BB chart.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 30, 2015 21:30:40 GMT -5
> Maybe George can sneak in one big hit somehow. A song about firemen, called "Bros. with Hose" featuring Florida Georgia Line. Whaddya think ?! 60% chance CBC keeps its bullet on tonight's BB chart. "Cold Beer Conversation" did keep its bullet on Billboard tonight, even with a loss of 64k in audience and 11 spins. George could have reached #32 if it wasn't for Dustin beating him out by 58k in total audience.
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Post by razorback9926 on Dec 3, 2015 14:45:01 GMT -5
I'm looking at the new chart and there is no circle around George's song, I think this means he lost the bullet.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 3, 2015 14:47:24 GMT -5
I'm looking at the new chart and there is no circle around George's song, I think this means he lost the bullet. You're right. George Strait lost 64,000 in audience impressions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 15:32:49 GMT -5
I'm looking at the new chart and there is no circle around George's song, I think this means he lost the bullet. That's really weird. According to the Billboard update on Monday night, George was bulleted. But according to the BDS website, he doesn't have a bullet.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 3, 2015 16:21:13 GMT -5
I'm looking at the new chart and there is no circle around George's song, I think this means he lost the bullet. That's really weird. According to the Billboard update on Monday night, George was bulleted. But according to the BDS website, he doesn't have a bullet. Huh. It must have been extremely close to that line of awarding a bullet then. You and Zazie would know better than me but George did lose 64k in spins, in addition with losing 11 spins. BDS is Billboard though, so I guess there was a mix-up between both chart tabulations.
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Post by Zazie on Dec 5, 2015 22:26:44 GMT -5
When I first saw the chart, I assumed the reason for George's bullet was that overall audience was down for the week due to holiday airplay. When that happens, and it's a not-too-infrequent event, songs that were very close to bullets wind up getting them.
If that was real, then the bullet should have persisted. I don't know what BB is doing now, as they seem to ignore their rules and policies on numerous occasions. Figures this would happen to a struggling George Strait song... he's got 2 weeks to turn it around. And the first week isn't looking good for a turn-around.
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Post by Marv on Dec 6, 2015 11:36:54 GMT -5
It's also really disheartening that next weekend will in all likelihood be his final appearance for this flawless song on CT40 with Carrie set to pass him today.
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Post by someguy on Dec 6, 2015 11:38:26 GMT -5
He lost again today (though in small amounts). Unfortunately, I highly doubt that he bullets on tomorrow's Billboard chart.
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Post by Zazie on Dec 6, 2015 13:32:24 GMT -5
It's also really disheartening that next weekend will in all likelihood be his final appearance for this flawless song on CT40 with Carrie set to pass him today. George is safe for one more countdown appearance. He's at 40 today, and even if #41 Carrie were close enough to pass him this evening, which I don't expect, he'd move up 1 courtesy of Swindell going recurrent. I was really hoping George could at least chart through the holidays, and crack the BB top 30. Fat chance now.
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Post by Marv on Dec 7, 2015 0:02:56 GMT -5
I stand corrected again---thanks! Geezerdom (King George is 28 days older than yours truly) is no fun sometimes.
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Post by Zazie on Dec 7, 2015 10:07:52 GMT -5
Geezerdom: what a good word, Ol' Marv. I've been listening to country music since the 60's, so it's not as if you're the only one.
This morning Strait's song gains 53 spins on MB. It's still losing audience, down another 100k, so unless we're very fortunate in the translation from MB numbers to the BB chart, the bullet may prove elusive. But at least there's no freefall and country radio isn't abandoning the song all at once.
I just hope Strait song does gain in spins this week (on tonight's 12/19 chart) and loses relatively little audience, so the song can qualify for a spins-based bullet. Yes, there are rules for all of this stuff but they would mean a lot more if BB showed signs of following them. I'll just hope for a bullet tonight.
At least the song's at its MB high in spins.
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Post by someguy on Dec 7, 2015 21:28:05 GMT -5
Unfortunately George is without a bullet tonight. The big question is whether Billboard will consider this his first or second bulletless week, due to last week's discrepancy.
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Post by razorback9926 on Dec 8, 2015 14:02:55 GMT -5
Speaking of "unfortunately," I am now convinced that George will never have another big hit. He could release a song as good as "Amarilly by Morning" and his name alone would guarantee that radio won't play it since he's "too old." It gives me zero pleasure to say that, but it's hard to think otherwise.
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