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Post by Adam (UTR) on Sept 26, 2015 12:26:43 GMT -5
Based on limited Saturday info, we should see some battles on both charts next week. On the album chart, country icon George Strait takes the early lead with his Walmart/iTunes exclusive. The rest of the Top 5 could land in any order as of now, with debuts from Don Henley, Thomas Rhett and the massively underperforming Fetty Wap all fighting to hold on against Drake & Future in its second week. On the SPS chart, Fetty Wap will battle the Drake-Future mixtape, which, after a first-week iTunes/Apple Music exclusive, is now available at all digital retailers and streaming services. George Strait (MCA Nashville) 75-80k albums, 78-82k SPS Fetty Wap (WMG) 70-75k, 110-115k Don Henley (Capitol) 70-75k, 71-76k Thomas Rhett (Valory/BMLG) 65-70k, 72-77k CHVRCHES (Glassnote) 25-28k, 32-35k Disclosure (Capitol) 24-27k, 28-32k ( HDD)
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Post by Glove Slap on Sept 26, 2015 12:33:22 GMT -5
Lower than I expected for Fetty and Disclosure, but still good considering. Very strong opening for Don Henley as well.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 26, 2015 12:44:31 GMT -5
Some felt Fetty was going to do much better.
We are moving into the 4th Quarter. Let's hope he has legs.
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 26, 2015 13:19:15 GMT -5
Some felt Fetty was going to do much better. We are moving into the 4th Quarter. Let's hope he has legs. Well, i think everybody expected better. Rappers with hits generally do very well, and he is doing really really well on the singles chart for a good while. Not that i expected something like a established rapper with a solid career but more on the verge of hyped artist with hits on radio, something around 150k
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 26, 2015 13:35:53 GMT -5
Fetty will do very well with SPS for the rest of the year, 500k easily for him.
Amazing for Don Henley.. the album sounds pretty boring though what I've heard
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 26, 2015 13:38:21 GMT -5
^You mean 500K, with TEA in the mix? Probably so, but maybe not album sales.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 26, 2015 13:49:35 GMT -5
Yea!
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Post by badrobot on Sept 26, 2015 14:06:40 GMT -5
Fetty Wap seems more similar to Flo Rida than someone like Lil Wayne -- I actually think those album sales are much better than I'd expect.
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Post by H. on Sept 26, 2015 14:17:33 GMT -5
Hopefully Disclosure does more.
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Post by kanimal on Sept 26, 2015 14:27:34 GMT -5
Absolutely disillusioning total for Fetty Wap. He's the hot new star in the genre that still sells, and the massive buzz + interest in his songs (including 679 before it hit the radio) suggested he was going to post something special this week.
Thomas Rhett's number is good enough that his haters in the country blog/Twitter community won't be able to talk much sh*t, but it's maybe a bit sobering in light of the fact that he seemed to be evolving from country radio star into bona fide country star. Of course, when you consider that the new Blake Shelton album barely cracked 100K, I guess there's only so high this was going to go.
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Post by anafan on Sept 26, 2015 15:42:32 GMT -5
Thought he would do a lot better.
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Post by Live Your Life on Sept 26, 2015 15:54:48 GMT -5
I'm conflicted on how I feel about Fetty Wap's numbers. On one hand, other rappers that make the type of music he makes sells like 10 albums. On the other hand, it just seems like he had so much momentum and his airplay is insane. I was expecting at least 200k, so I was way off.
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Post by Nick on Sept 26, 2015 16:28:47 GMT -5
Nice for Don Henley. Fetty Wap's album is like 20 versions of the same song.
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Post by mluv on Sept 26, 2015 17:20:39 GMT -5
Fetty Wap is getting a lot of attention today but unfortunately for the wrong thing--his motorcycle accident that's sent him to the hospital.
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Post by DJ General on Sept 26, 2015 21:53:09 GMT -5
Fetty Wap's numbers are really surprising. Anyone who thinks they are good numbers for him does not follow logical chart stats. He is GIANT right now. I don't see the Flo Rida comparisons over him. He is much bigger in the urban key market and even pop than Flo is. Flo just had a couple GIANT songs but they were always going to be just single sales, you could tell. Fetty had just an aurora around him that logic said would translate into sales
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Post by badrobot on Sept 26, 2015 23:03:26 GMT -5
Please list some artists similar to Fetty and what the sales were for their debut album weeks.
Not sure why anyone would assume that a huge *streaming* artist would have big sales numbers.
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Post by DJ General on Sept 27, 2015 0:21:48 GMT -5
Where did I say streaming? He has mass appeal on iTunes and has countless songs all over the charts for example. He also has multiple songs all over radio at various formats. He has massive online appeal in social media and won that award at the VMAs
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Post by Spidey on Sept 27, 2015 2:29:16 GMT -5
I was expecting at least 200k in pure album sales for Fetty Wap.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 27, 2015 3:01:47 GMT -5
This just highlights how huge Drake is at the moment... Damn he can drop a surprise album and pass 400k when others wth year-defining hits struggle to reach 200k.
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 27, 2015 8:52:20 GMT -5
Absolutely disillusioning total for Fetty Wap. He's the hot new star in the genre that still sells, and the massive buzz + interest in his songs (including 679 before it hit the radio) suggested he was going to post something special this week. Thomas Rhett's number is good enough that his haters in the country blog/Twitter community won't be able to talk much sh*t, but it's maybe a bit sobering in light of the fact that he seemed to be evolving from country radio star into bona fide country star. Of course, when you consider that the new Blake Shelton album barely cracked 100K, I guess there's only so high this was going to go. Why they hate Thomas? he is one of the few interesting new male singers in the genre
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 27, 2015 8:56:12 GMT -5
Please list some artists similar to Fetty and what the sales were for their debut album weeks. Not sure why anyone would assume that a huge *streaming* artist would have big sales numbers. Because it's not only streaming, his songs actually have good sales, and he has very good airplay too. We are talking about the it boy of the moment of a genre that actually sells albums, or at least they sell in the first week (because the truth is with some exceptions rap albums practically sell half of the total in the first week)
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Post by badrobot on Sept 27, 2015 13:20:59 GMT -5
^Still, nobody has actually listed a similar artist's debut week yet.
Sorry if I was a bit salty before, but sometimes this board is just determined to find things disappointing. I don't understand why there are so frequently such overly high expectations.
A brand new artist getting over 100k in their first week in the weak sales climate of 2015 is huge, in my opinion.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 27, 2015 13:28:26 GMT -5
^But his album won't approach 100K, at least going by the initial projected numbers. I gree about the disappointing factor, though- I didn't have much in the way of expectations, going by how some other acts with big singles didn't open with huge numbers for their albums. So his numbers do not shock me.
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Post by badrobot on Sept 27, 2015 14:33:58 GMT -5
^I meant SPS figures
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 27, 2015 15:02:15 GMT -5
What was the highest first week's sales for a CD this year? I forgot and thanks!
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Post by ILLUSION on Sept 27, 2015 19:20:57 GMT -5
Ouch. No numbers for McPhee, but not surprised. Was hoping to get at least an idea of how much it's going to move.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Sept 27, 2015 20:46:31 GMT -5
Thomas Rhett's number is good enough that his haters in the country blog/Twitter community won't be able to talk much sh*t, but it's maybe a bit sobering in light of the fact that he seemed to be evolving from country radio star into bona fide country star. Of course, when you consider that the new Blake Shelton album barely cracked 100K, I guess there's only so high this was going to go. Why they hate Thomas? he is one of the few interesting new male singers in the genre I may not be able to speak to the particular elements to which kanimal was referring, but Thomas Rhett's debut album was very much part of that wave of formulaic bro country that, among other things, celebrated the party-hearty insularity and mediocrity of the privileged "white boy," a message encapsulated in the album track "All-American Middle Class White Boy." He didn't help his cause with his second #1 country single, "Get Me Some of That," in which "that" referred (demeaningly) to females and included the typically bro reference to a woman "shaking [her] moneymaker." That song was among those referenced directly by Maddie & Tae's bro-cliché-parodying breakthrough #1 hit "Girl in a Country Song," Sometime after that, Thomas Rhett seemed to discover a new idol: Bruno Mars (he released a cover of "When I Was Your Man" at the beginning of the year), and couple that with the success of Rhett's disco-influenced "Make Me Wanna," suddenly Thomas Rhett was a soul/funk/disco man, something that has carried over into his sophomore album. It's a bizarre turn because Rhett really doesn't have much a voice (witness the way he barely croaks out his most recent hit, "Crash & Burn," despite studio help and strong backing vocals from the song's co-writer, the great Chris Stapleton), Rhett's is certainly not a voice with much soul and he doesn't have an ounce of funk in his body. He doesn't really seem to know who he is as an artist, and there's a bit of second-hand embarrassment going around as someone of his limited ability and self-awareness becomes a representative for the next generation of male country stars. That said, Rhett has an undeniably keen ear for a hit, whether or not he wrote the song, and it has helped him lead the next trend at country radio, for better and worse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 22:16:58 GMT -5
Fetty Wap is generally not someone whose album i would go purchase some folk be better off listening to here and there. I'm a intelligent human being whose mind needs a little something to go with the fun. No thanks Fetty. Where are the lyrical rappers of my youth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 22:26:57 GMT -5
^Still, nobody has actually listed a similar artist's debut week yet. Sorry if I was a bit salty before, but sometimes this board is just determined to find things disappointing. I don't understand why there are so frequently such overly high expectations. A brand new artist getting over 100k in their first week in the weak sales climate of 2015 is huge, in my opinion. This is entirely speculation, but I wonder if the issue is that Fetty is exposed to two types of audiences who regard him in different ways. I can plausibly see the pop fans who have bought his singles only being into him for the singles - for these kinds of fans, the Flo Rida comparison makes sense. But then to the urban crowd, the level of fandom runs deeper, which is why he is able to do the 70-75k raw sales he will pull in. 70-75k for a new rapper, especially one who makes the type of music he does, is pretty solid. If it weren't for the crossover success I'd probably be measuring him against Future or 2 Chainz. It's just the mainstream exposure he has gotten that makes things feel like the numbers should be bigger. Just because he's popular doesn't mean he's cemented blanket loyalty from all of his key demos, though. Overall, while Fetty's opening numbers aren't anything to jump for joy about, I wouldn't call them "massively" underperforming either. I'd be a little concerned about the longevity; he's already released so many singles that I don't know how much further he can push this and still gain sales. But if his single sales stay up and make the overall TEA/SEA look good, I think his label will be content. Trap Queen/My Way/679/Again on their own put him at about 400k TEA, I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 23:35:50 GMT -5
Fetty Wap ( WMG) 70-75k, 110-115k Can someone please explain to me why HITS keeps shading Atlantic? (Oh and this is actually what I expected for Fetty with TEA)
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