Kip Moore - "Running For You"

[sabre14]

Feb 4, 2016 14:11:05 GMT -5 dm2081 said:

Feb 4, 2016 13:57:44 GMT -5 sabre14 said:

I think the low airplay aids in low sales, not it's the be all end of all of low sales, which I never said. There's plenty of folks who have no idea that Kip Moore has a new single at radio called "Running For You."

It's not getting enough passion from listeners to buy it, which I agree with.

Anyways, Kip is definitely a perfect example of how important it is to pick the right songs for radio when you are just beginning your career.  I respect his independence and decision to do things his own way, but they've whiffed multiple times choosing a single, and it has ended up stunting his career.

I agree that they've missed on their single choices but I think they were just fine picking singles up until "Young Love." I mean, it's not saying too much since Up All Night had plenty of material I think would have done great like "Beer Money" and "Hey Pretty Girl" did but I don't think the label thought the singles they picked were exactly risks. It's easy to look back in hind sight and say that but I'm sure MCA truly thought "Young Love" would hit and even "Dirt Road." There's just no way a label group like UMG picks singles knowing that there's a chance they might not work out, especially with "Dirt Road" since Kip's previous single failed to release his album. Then the decision to release "I'm To Blame" was totally understandable since it was a catchy, uptempo track that was short -- radio loves spinning those songs. The problem that one faced was that the song was too "bleh" for listeners and it ended up not selling very well and kind of got lost in the shuffle once it reached the top 30 -- I can't even remember the amount of songs that leaped 'I'm To Blame" when it was charting in the 30's and 20's, but I know it was a lot.

I definitely think they've picked the wrong songs as singles though, I completely agree. I guess the folks that run major music labels are human just like us and they just flat out misjudged how the songs Kip's released recently would perform...of course they could have asked one of us and maybe they would have saved themselves the trouble.

[Dustin J.]

Feb 4, 2016 14:11:05 GMT -5 dm2081 said:

Feb 4, 2016 13:57:44 GMT -5 sabre14 said:

I think the low airplay aids in low sales, not it's the be all end of all of low sales, which I never said. There's plenty of folks who have no idea that Kip Moore has a new single at radio called "Running For You."

It's not getting enough passion from listeners to buy it, which I agree with.

I understand what you're saying, but plenty of people haven't heard Justin Moore's new one yet, Easton's song has only been out a little longer, Big & Rich's new one just came out and it has less airplay, and Dylan Scott is a new artist most people aren't even familiar with yet and they're all selling considerable better with either similar or less airplay.  They could all play the "low airplay" card as well, but they're still selling better than Kip.

Anyways, Kip is definitely a perfect example of how important it is to pick the right songs for radio when you are just beginning your career.  I respect his independence and decision to do things his own way, but they've whiffed multiple times choosing a single, and it has ended up stunting his career.

I would credit The Highway for the higher sales for Justin Moore & Dylan Scott's new songs.

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What I found most surprising is that even songs like "By The Way" by Lindsay Ell are outselling Kip Moore. That's not a good sign for "Running For You" when even Lindsay Ell is outselling him.

[carriekins]

Feb 4, 2016 14:30:12 GMT -5 raylatch98 said:

What I found most surprising is that even songs like "By The Way" by Lindsay Ell are outselling Kip Moore. That's not a good sign for "Running For You" when even Lindsay Ell is outselling him.

Again, that can be attributed to the Highway.

[sabre14]

Feb 4, 2016 14:30:12 GMT -5 raylatch98 said:

What I found most surprising is that even songs like "By The Way" by Lindsay Ell are outselling Kip Moore. That's not a good sign for "Running For You" when even Lindsay Ell is outselling him.

The Highway plays "By The Way" and "Crazy Over Me" constantly, and have for a while.

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Feb 4, 2016 14:36:10 GMT -5 sabre14 said:

Feb 4, 2016 14:30:12 GMT -5 raylatch98 said:

What I found most surprising is that even songs like "By The Way" by Lindsay Ell are outselling Kip Moore. That's not a good sign for "Running For You" when even Lindsay Ell is outselling him.

The Highway plays "By The Way" and "Crazy Over Me" constantly, and have for a while.

Well anything to help "By The Way", I do hope The Highway adds "Running For You" then soon because that will immensely help this song out. 

Ok but even Chris Janson is outselling Kip is their an explanation for that one. 

[sabre14]

Feb 4, 2016 14:39:31 GMT -5 raylatch98 said:

Feb 4, 2016 14:36:10 GMT -5 sabre14 said:

The Highway plays "By The Way" and "Crazy Over Me" constantly, and have for a while.

Ok but even Chris Janson is outselling Kip is their an explanation for that one. 

Lol, I never said that Kip's airplay was the factor why it has sold so poorly. Now we're just going to get every song on the chart that's selling better than Kip's to shed a lens on. "Power Of Positive Drinkin'" is currently inside the top 1400 of the all-genre chart...not exactly blazing a trail itself, nor is it selling so much better than "Running For You" to be an example.

I'm sure Kip's sales will gradually increase as long as it continues its climb. MCA is pushing this song as hard as they can, so I definitely think this can still become a moderate hit. I don't think this will be a top 5 single but perhaps matching a peak of "I'm To Blame" is possible. What also worries me a bit (other than this one stalling at some point) is that is it takes a very long time to reach its peak, we might not get a third single anyway, even if it ends up cracking the top 20 or top 15.

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There were a few days this past week where "Running For You" was in the top 1500 on iTunes, according to Kworb's site. Its sales are definitely lagging far behind most other songs in the 30's and below, but at this point I'll take what I can get.

Hopefully the video is released soon, and it'd be really awesome if SiriusXM started supporting this one...

[myeverything]

I guess I'm not sure WHY no ones buying or liking (?) this song. At his live shows the response is CRAZY good. It's a great, meaningful, relatable song... I understand it's slower but that's different for Kip. I'm just not understanding why people aren't buying it other than the fact that a lot of people don't even know it's a single or even out there at all, based on that lack of airplay.

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Feb 7, 2016 15:30:18 GMT -5 myeverything said:

I guess I'm not sure WHY no ones buying or liking (?) this song. At his live shows the response is CRAZY good. It's a great, meaningful, relatable song... I understand it's slower but that's different for Kip. I'm just not understanding why people aren't buying it other than the fact that a lot of people don't even know it's a single or even out there at all, based on that lack of airplay.

It's a lack of airplay and I imagine that outside Kip's core fan base which is huge not many people are buying it, which helps further the lack of airplay. What might help Kip is if he can break into the MB Top 30 aka CCUSA spins and American Country Countdown spins. That'll help but until the music video comes out I imagine the sales are going to stay the same, so less incentive to play this song. 

Also of course the response is going to be great at a live concert people usually go to concerts to support their artists so yeah it'll be great but it's not a good read into what the general public thinks of "Running For You". 

[zjames]

[justme60]

I'm not trying to be rude or mean here....just giving my own opinion of Kip. I just don't like his voice at all. He's a nice looking fellow but it's his voice that is a turn off to me. The song is good, but I can think of it sounding so much better with another vocalist. JMO

[.indulgecountry]

Feb 13, 2016 14:34:25 GMT -5 justme60 said:

I'm not trying to be rude or mean here....just giving my own opinion of Kip. I just don't like his voice at all. He's a nice looking fellow but it's his voice that is a turn off to me. The song is good, but I can think of it sounding so much better with another vocalist. JMO

You aren't alone. I feel pretty much the same way. I just can't get into his voice at all and "Beer Money" is his only single to date that I've genuinely enjoyed; everything else ranges from unlistenable ("Something Bout a Truck") to meh.

[mus1cr0w]

I like his vocals way better than Thomas Rhett, Jaren Johnston or Cole Swindell. He has a grit and a passion that is instanty identifiable.

Love this song.

MR

[Markus Meyer]

I personally think he's one of the best male vocalists in country, behind only Randy Houser and Chris Young for me personally. Absolutely adore his voice, and am still in love with this song.

[.indulgecountry]

His style of vocal is just not what I typically gravitate towards. I can't get into his voice for probably the same reasons that I think Tyler Farr is an atrocious vocalist, why I usually think Rodney Atkins is awful aside from a couple songs, and why I think Gary Allan is a bit overrated (I like some of his songs, but his voice doesn't appeal to me in nearly the way that it appears to for many on here). My top male vocalists in the genre are Josh Turner, David Nail, and Chris Young.

[myeverything]

And those guys don't stand out to me one bit. Kip's voice may not be the strongest, but it's the gritty, raw emotion that gets me. He's so different from from the rest and it's so unique sounding... even if you're not a big fan you can pretty much listen to a song and say "oh-that's gotta be Kip Moore" just based on his different sound..

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Feb 14, 2016 16:36:25 GMT -5 myeverything said:

And those guys don't stand out to me one bit. Kip's voice may not be the strongest, but it's the gritty, raw emotion that gets me. He's so different from from the rest and it's so unique sounding... even if you're not a big fan you can pretty much listen to a song and say "oh-that's gotta be Kip Moore" just based on his different sound..

I think there's a lot of male artists that stand out including Kip. Like I can easily identify Chris Young, Dustin Lynch, Keith Urban, Kenny Chesney, Luke Bryan, Blake Shelton basically any artist for me to identify (exception Jordan Rager he sounds too similar to Jason Aldean) but maybe cause I'm a country music nerd :) . 

Anyway to "Running For You" this week was an unspectacular week for it but it did manage to go up to #33 on MB so it's getting close to the Top 30. The music video seemed to help it at least get on the iTunes chart but "Running For You" is still not selling all that well. I think Kip can make the Top 30 but the amount of upcoming songs that jhomes87 pointed out early this week in the Upcoming Singles Thread, that might not help Kip Moore all that much at all since his songs been out for a while now and there's a lot of new music that'll be coming soon. 

[sabre14]

The Cumulus block added "Running For You" this week.

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^That should really help Kip Moore out, especially since he's on the verge of the Top 30.

[myeverything]

Woohoo! Fantastic news! Talked to him a couple times during CRS this week and his spirits seemed pretty high. Hope this helps continue the push onward with the single!

[onebuffalo]

Feb 17, 2016 10:35:03 GMT -5 myeverything said:

Woohoo! Fantastic news! Talked to him a couple times during CRS this week and his spirits seemed pretty high. Hope this helps continue the push onward with the single!

Well, if Kip Moore's spirits are high, I see a #34 to #1 move on the charts for him.

[cardinalr]

On BUZN 102.9 in Minneapolis yesterday I heard this but they played the album version, not the radio version. Strange.

[sabre14]

"Running For You" broke the Mediabase top 30 this week with Luke and Granger going recurrent.

[myeverything]

Woohooo!! What are we on, week 20? lol

[sabre14]

Mar 6, 2016 15:02:25 GMT -5 myeverything said:

 What are we on, week 20? lol

Yep, this is week #20 on Billboard Airplay. It went for adds in October. Broke the top 30 in March. Same ole, same ole.

[Deleted]

Nice to see a big ad on AllAccess today:



As sabre14 (and this ad) pointed out, "Running For You" finished the week at #30 on Mediabase. On Billboard Kip is at #32, after 20 weeks on the chart. A couple more songs will go recurrent next week, but I'd bet Blake's new single will debut in the 20's (on Billboard), and there will be a few other big releases moving up swiftly as well, notably the new singles from Jake Owen and Luke Bryan.

It's gonna continue to be a slow climb for Kip, but the good news is that "Running For You" has been added by a total of 138 stations now, which means that there are fewer than 20 stations that still need to add it yet.

[hosssulpizio]

What is it about Kip Moore that people don't like? I don't even see why a song like "Running For You" is going very slowly up the charts.

[sabre14]

Mar 8, 2016 3:05:10 GMT -5 hosssulpizio said:

What is it about Kip Moore that people don't like? I don't even see why a song like "Running For You" is going very slowly up the charts.

Because Kip hasn't had a top 10 single in almost three years and the song is not the uptempo diddy that radio likes to spin. Kip's always had slow climbs for all his singles, outside of the moderate climbs for "Beer Money" and "Hey Pretty Girl".

[phil1996]

Might as well pull the plug on this one and give "Girl of the Summer" a shot. This is just treading water at this point. Hasn't done a thing since it hit top 30.