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Post by bboat11 on Nov 12, 2015 0:07:38 GMT -5
It's not really a contest but even taking his biggest era, FutureSex/LoveSounds, it wasn't as big as Teenage Dream. Anyone arguing Katy Perry isn't a household name is wrong; they both are. But either way you spin it, having enjoyable SNL appearances isn't going to get him a hit on country radio, lol. This whole point I'm trying to make is that Justin Timberlake is not going to become a country star or even have a country hit simply because a lot of people know who he is or like him. That's all I'm saying. But why not? Jessica Simpson had a country hit and she's not nearly as liked or talented as JT. Stephen Tyler had a top 40 song that hung around the charts for weeks and while he is a legend, he is no where near's JT's star quality. Why couldn't he have a hit? Jessica had a country hit like 3/4 of a decade ago. The country music industry has changed a lot since then, plus even back then her one song didn't lead to any kind of successful country career whatsoever. And Stephen's song was not a "hit" by any stretch of the imagination, so saying that Justin should be able to get a hit if Stephen could is drawing conclusions based on a false premise. The point is, Justin COULD get his song to chart on country radio, and it could very well outpeak Stephen's song, but it is not automatically guaranteed based on the fact that he is a famous pop star who has also acted a few times and gone on SNL. Those things might help him, but they do not guarantee anything. The label will still have to work hard to promote this if it is going to stand any chance at all of becoming a hit. Good will in the entertainment industry will certainly give him some curiosity spins, but we cannot reasonably expect anything else until we see some tangible data, like the callout scores or how many adds it gets out of the gate.
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Post by LBTrocks on Nov 12, 2015 0:10:47 GMT -5
I don't think there's anything country about this song except for the lyrics. Otherwise, it's still very much a pop song, just with a bluesy twist. I get why it can be pushed to country, but to me it still sticks out like a sore thumb in the context of the genre. I can't even begin to imagine what a country song by Justin Timberlake would sound like. As for the song itself, I've never been that fond of it. I don't like the rhythm and the overall instrumentation. The only redeeming quality it has for me is the fact that the vocal arrangement is fairly catchy. I think this has potential to perform marginally well, but I don't expect it to do gangbusters. The era is over and I think the prime time for this song to have been released is long over as well. That said, I can see the logic in putting this out there. I mean, why not? There's lots of buzz off of the performance with Chris Stapleton and there might as well be something out there to bridge the gap between "Not A Bad Thing" and a brand new single from a brand new album.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 8:39:30 GMT -5
While it's really not today's pop sound, this is nothing country. Of course that garbage iHeart station in Hartford is already playing it. They were one of the first (and few) to play that Eli Young nonsense pop cover. Wish they'd just truck off and become a pop station.
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 12, 2015 11:58:12 GMT -5
I'm expecting this to do better on the mongrel chart versus the airplay chart because of sales and streaming.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 12, 2015 13:35:04 GMT -5
From Music Row: So RCA Nashville will handle radio promotion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 14:07:42 GMT -5
I'm not really a fan of this myself, but some of the replies in here are bordering on ridiculous.
The only reason "Drink You Away" was sent out was because of the massive response to his performance with Stapelton. If anyone honestly thinks a song that's 2+ years old has a chance to become a hit solely because Justin is well-liked, popular male artist, that's quite the reach.
I used to be annoyed when other artists used to frequently release Country albums and try to crossover, but since it has been proven plenty of times that success/name recognition from another genres means nothing, I don't see why people still complain about it.
In any case, comparing artists who have tried to crossover to JT is apples and oranges. Sending out one single based off massive buzz is hardly the same thing as what Jessica Simpson and Steven Tyler did.
This is more likely a "Oh, let's see if this sticks, why not?" move rather than one that's perfectly calculated and planned, as a move to crossover would likely be.
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Post by bogglethemind on Nov 12, 2015 19:01:25 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/biz/articles/6762215/will-country-radio-take-a-taste-of-justin-timberlakes-drinkIn the week following the Country Music Association (CMA) Awards (Nov. 4), the aftereffects of Chris Stapleton and Justin Timberlake's duet performance of the former's "Tennessee Whiskey" and the latter's "Drink You Away" continue. Watch Justin Timberlake & Chris Stapleton's Knockout CMAs Performance In Full Mercury Nashville has already reaped benefits with Stapleton. His Traveller re-enters the Billboard 200 (dated Nov. 21) at No. 1 (marking the chart's first-ever re-entry at the summit), up by 6,109 percent to 177,000 equivalent album units earned in the week ending Nov. 5, according to Nielsen Music. It also vaults 25-1 on Top Country Albums (153,000 in traditional sales, up 6,412 percent). Traveller track "Whiskey" re-enters Hot Country Songs at No. 1 (likewise the chart's first No. 1 re-entry) and he has a new single at country radio: "Nobody to Blame" debuts on Country Airplay at No. 46 (2.2 million in audience). Stapleton won in all three CMA categories in which he was nominated: new artist, male vocalist and album of the year. Now, it's Timberlake's turn. RCA Nashville delivered an edit of "Drink" to country radio (Nov. 11). The shortened track is 4:15-long, instead of the original 5:31-long version from his 2013 album The 20/20 Experience - 2 of 2. It's not unusual for country radio stations to air highlights from the CMAs, especially the day after on morning shows, sometimes airing footage straight from the broadcast. But, "We didn't want programmers to have to take audio from their television," says Sony Music Nashville executive vice president, promotion/artist development Steve Hodges. "We received several requests from key programmers and we decided to get them a shortened version [of 'Drink'] so they didn't have to air the longer cut from the album." The digital delivery turned plenty of heads, bringing up the obvious question: Is Justin Timberlake going country? "Our promotion staffs will not be actively working the single," Hodges tells Billboard. "We simply wanted to make the song easily accessible for country radio. Now they have it and can play it if they'd like." If Timberlake dents Country Airplay or Hot Country Songs, it would be his first solo appearance on the surveys, although he's not a stranger to the format. His former boy band 'N Sync was featured on Alabama's 1999 cover of the group's "God Must Have Spent a Little More Time on You," which peaked at No. 3 on Hot Country Songs. ('N Sync's original reached No. 8 on the Billboard Hot 100 earlier that year.) David Fanning Drops Justin Timberlake-Penned First Single "Drink" has also made an appearance on Country Airplay, although not by Timberlake. Artist/producer David Fanning's version peaked at No. 58 in June 2014.
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Post by maine on Nov 12, 2015 20:48:37 GMT -5
If he were to push for country for his next era, I hope it's a one-off single like Kelly Clarkson has done in the past, and not a full album. An album full of songs like this wouldn't be good. This was among my least favorites from both parts of his album.
I get the reason they're at least trying this since there is some buzz from the CMAs, but I bet this does about the same as "Honey, I'm Good." did.
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Post by Kurt on Nov 14, 2015 13:43:59 GMT -5
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 14, 2015 14:49:41 GMT -5
And there we have it. Just as I suspected. ;)
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Post by matty005 on Nov 14, 2015 15:17:53 GMT -5
And there we have it. Just as I suspected. ;) I think most people suspected it. We just disagreed that if it were to get a full push that it would be a hit.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 14, 2015 15:22:38 GMT -5
And there we have it. Just as I suspected. ;) I think most people suspected it. We just disagreed that if it were to get a full push that it would be a hit. If it got a full push and were the lead single to an all-"country music" record on a country recording label, then yes, I think it could've been a hit (by no means guaranteed, but likely if the desire were there by JT & company). I never suggested otherwise. But the fact was that none of that was true of this release and that this looked like it was just tossed out there as an "eh, why not?" and I see now that this has been confirmed.
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Post by someguy on Nov 14, 2015 23:13:30 GMT -5
I've always liked this song, so I'm glad to see it getting some sort of a push somewhere. With a full on promotional team behind it, I imagine it would've performed similarly to "Mr. Know It All" a few years ago. Since that's not happening, I imagine that it might make the top 50, but probably not much beyond that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 16:01:22 GMT -5
R&R still lists this as going for adds next week, so maybe they're not giving it the kind of push you'd expect a Justin Timberlake single to have, but it seems they are pushing it to some extent.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 15, 2015 16:48:52 GMT -5
R&R still lists this as going for adds next week, so maybe they're not giving it the kind of push you'd expect a Justin Timberlake single to have, but it seems they are pushing it to some extent. Well, they might as well give it an add date since single releases are not as abundant from late November to Christmas, so there won't be much competition. I'm sure RCA will make it known to stations that they're releasing Justin's song to country radio and are gunning for adds on November 23rd, but that will probably be the extent of their push. This can chart and it might make a little headway but it won't last anywhere near long enough as most singles since RCA won't be actively pushing it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 23:44:14 GMT -5
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 24, 2015 14:19:42 GMT -5
"Drink You Away" got just 1 add on impact day (WKLI in Albany).
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 24, 2015 14:55:15 GMT -5
"Drink You Away" got just 1 add on impact day (WKLI in Albany). And there's all the proof anyone needs that Justin Timberlake's name recognition/industry approval alone is not going to do the promo work required to get country radio to play this. I knew this wasn't going to do anything though I do admit I was thinking a few more than just 1 add, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 15:55:58 GMT -5
Aw that's a shame this couldn't have gotten more adds as I did like the song. I do help that if Justin Timberlake does go to country even for a little bit I do help he can make some sort of splash. He is a lot better than the faceless B and C listers Country music can afford to get rid of.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 24, 2015 19:13:31 GMT -5
"Drink You Away" got just 1 add on impact day (WKLI in Albany). And there's all the proof anyone needs that Justin Timberlake's name recognition/industry approval alone is not going to do the promo work required to get country radio to play this. I knew this wasn't going to do anything though I do admit I was thinking a few more than just 1 add, lol. I don't think anyone was disagreeing with you on that point. My point was that with proper promotion, he could easily have hits on country radio and more than just one like Jessica Simpson or Jewel.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 24, 2015 19:27:28 GMT -5
And there's all the proof anyone needs that Justin Timberlake's name recognition/industry approval alone is not going to do the promo work required to get country radio to play this. I knew this wasn't going to do anything though I do admit I was thinking a few more than just 1 add, lol. I don't think anyone was disagreeing with you on that point. My point was that with proper promotion, he could easily have hits on country radio and more than just one like Jessica Simpson or Jewel. But that was never my point. The whole discussion started because when this thread got started a bunch of people immediately started getting disillusioned that this was going to be a hit at country radio, and from the moment I (and others, like sabre14) tried to approach this release from a more grounded, realistic perspective, you and others started to express disagreement. But I never said that JT could never have a hit on country radio no matter what he did, just that this wasn't going to be it. It just seems like you've never fully grasped my intentions in this thread. Most people seemed to think this was going to be a hit, at least at first, before realizing there was no weight behind its release to indicate that as an actual possibility.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 24, 2015 19:29:55 GMT -5
I don't think anyone was disagreeing with you on that point. My point was that with proper promotion, he could easily have hits on country radio and more than just one like Jessica Simpson or Jewel. But that was never my point. The whole discussion started because when this thread got started a bunch of people immediately started getting disillusioned that this was going to be a hit at country radio, and from the moment I (and others, like sabre14) tried to approach this release from a more grounded, realistic perspective, you and others started to express disagreement. But I never said that JT could never have a hit on country radio no matter what he did, just that this wasn't going to be it. It just seems like you've never fully grasped my intentions in this thread. Most people seemed to think this was going to be a hit, at least at first, before realizing there was no weight behind its release to indicate that as an actual possibility. Sure, but at the point when we heard it was being released, no one knew if it was going to being promoted or not. I mean, has there ever been a single that had success that wasn't promoted? I am sure there is, but the chances are pretty slim I am sure. So I mean, yes, you're right it won't do much, but would any single do much that wasn't being promoted? OR, was your point that it won't be promoted? If that is the case, I get what you're saying.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 24, 2015 19:41:56 GMT -5
But that was never my point. The whole discussion started because when this thread got started a bunch of people immediately started getting disillusioned that this was going to be a hit at country radio, and from the moment I (and others, like sabre14) tried to approach this release from a more grounded, realistic perspective, you and others started to express disagreement. But I never said that JT could never have a hit on country radio no matter what he did, just that this wasn't going to be it. It just seems like you've never fully grasped my intentions in this thread. Most people seemed to think this was going to be a hit, at least at first, before realizing there was no weight behind its release to indicate that as an actual possibility. Sure, but at the point when we heard it was being released, no one knew if it was going to being promoted or not. I mean, has there ever been a single that had success that wasn't promoted? I am sure there is, but the chances are pretty slim I am sure. So I mean, yes, you're right it won't do much, but would any single do much that wasn't being promoted? OR, was your point that it won't be promoted? If that is the case, I get what you're saying. You initially struck up this discussion with me because I commented on rsmatto's statement that he thought this would be bigger than "Nobody to Blame" purely because Justin Timberlake was "in" with radio and Chris Stapleton wasn't, and I was just pointing out that JT being "in" with CHR meant nothing for country radio, because the two are completely separate entities. If JT wanted to have a hit at this format, then all parties involved were going to have to go all-out promotion-wise is all I'm saying, and I knew they weren't going to be willing to do that for this release. There's no name recognition that is going to carry him to success at this format just because he's a tried-and-true artist at another, especially given the way the country radio game works, which is really different from where JT usually gets airplay.
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