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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 29, 2015 20:39:01 GMT -5
I wouldn't say "literally." Has she done a song about how music affects her and others a la "Sir Duke" or "Music?" Has she done a song about suicide? Has she done a song about "the haters," struggling to get a record deal, or Santa being a human in disguise? I don't ask those questions as a criticism of her music; just saying there are still subjects she can get to in due time, and I wouldn't say "literally" in the context of her having done various songs. LOL. Let it go. It's just an expression that is commonly understood. Just like when someone says he is so hungry he could eat a horse, he doesn't actually eat a whole horse. But "literally" isn't some type of colloquialism or figure of speech. When someone adds it in as that poster did, it's meant to be taken...literally. If someone posted, "Miranda Lambert is literally the only female getting played on country radio right now," you know very well Carrie fans wouldn't take that as some general statements. Anyway, hopefully this does well for the album.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 29, 2015 21:00:01 GMT -5
LOL. Let it go. It's just an expression that is commonly understood. Just like when someone says he is so hungry he could eat a horse, he doesn't actually eat a whole horse. But "literally" isn't some type of colloquialism or figure of speech. When someone adds it in as that poster did, it's meant to be taken...literally. If someone posted, "Miranda Lambert is literally the only female getting played on country radio right now," you know very well Carrie fans wouldn't take that as some general statements. Anyway, hopefully this does well for the album. When I made my post I was thinking in terms of the usual themes of country songs: love, break-up, cheating, revenge, personal narrative, storytelling, etc. I was not thinking specific topics like the ones you outlined. I don't consider suicide a theme, and I think the other topics you listed fit within the theme(s) I listed above. Nevertheless, in the context of the general themes I outlined above, I think I used the term correctly. In terms of Carrie's radio singles, she's had narrative songs, break-up songs, cheating songs, revenge songs, storytelling songs, etc, but she hasn't had a true love song. Sure, if we're going with super specific topics, then I didn't use the term correctly. However, in terms of general themes, which was the objective of my comment, I think "literally" works fine.
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Post by Massikur2 on Nov 29, 2015 22:23:22 GMT -5
LOL. Let it go. It's just an expression that is commonly understood. Just like when someone says he is so hungry he could eat a horse, he doesn't actually eat a whole horse. But "literally" isn't some type of colloquialism or figure of speech. When someone adds it in as that poster did, it's meant to be taken...literally. If someone posted, "Miranda Lambert is literally the only female getting played on country radio right now," you know very well Carrie fans wouldn't take that as some general statements. Anyway, hopefully this does well for the album. To put this mind-boggling disagreement to rest... A quick Google search of the term 'literally' renders the following explanation: A synonym would be 'hyperbole,' I suppose. Obviously carrieidol1 did not mean that Carrie has covered every single topic conceivable throughout her catalog, but rather those that are familiar to country music as a whole. On that statement, I think she's absolutely correct; the closest thing she's released to a love song (aside from "Some Hearts" being released to Adult Contemporary radio in 2005--another discussion entirely) is "Mama's Song," in which romantic love underpins the narrative of maternal adoration. Thematically, this is a big step for Carrie that pulls her in a little closer to current radio trends. This could very well become a big single for her, if YouTube views and Spotify streams are any indication.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 29, 2015 23:25:43 GMT -5
However, in terms of general themes, which was the objective of my comment, I think "literally" works fine. And in my post I said I wouldn't use "literally," which is my right to state. So, what's the issue?
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 29, 2015 23:30:00 GMT -5
However, in terms of general themes, which was the objective of my comment, I think "literally" works fine. And in my post I said I wouldn't use "literally," which is my right to state. So, what's the issue? The issue is that this is a completely irrelevant point to have even brought up to begin with, and it still is not being dropped. Everyone is free to use words as they wish to get their point across, and as long as their thoughts are clear, their motives for individual word uses do not need to be questioned... I suggest that we all just return to talking about "Heartbeat" rather than debating whose vernacular is more proper.
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Post by Massikur2 on Nov 30, 2015 1:56:29 GMT -5
However, in terms of general themes, which was the objective of my comment, I think "literally" works fine. And in my post I said I wouldn't use "literally," which is my right to state. So, what's the issue? Hey, have you heard "Heartbeat?" Literally the best song to ever impact country radio.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 30, 2015 2:38:13 GMT -5
However, in terms of general themes, which was the objective of my comment, I think "literally" works fine. And in my post I said I wouldn't use "literally," which is my right to state. So, what's the issue? The issue is that you're literally the worst. Go troll somewhere else because no one is believing that your argument is by any stretch philosophical in nature. Now let's Carrie on with more important things y'all.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 30, 2015 8:08:48 GMT -5
How far away from Top 50?
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 30, 2015 9:10:02 GMT -5
And in my post I said I wouldn't use "literally," which is my right to state. So, what's the issue? The issue is that this is a completely irrelevant point to have even brought up to begin with, and it still is not being dropped. Everyone is free to use words as they wish to get their point across, and as long as their thoughts are clear, their motives for individual word uses do not need to be questioned... I suggest that we all just return to talking about "Heartbeat" rather than debating whose vernacular is more proper. It wasn't irrelevant. Someone made an (incorrect) point about the type of music Carrie has done and how "Heartbeat" fits into that, and I responded to say I disagree. That type of discussion is what this board is for, no? How is this any different than when people got upset at someone for calling "Heartbeat" a 'bro country' song? Weren't some of you arguing semantics then?
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Post by countrygirl918 on Nov 30, 2015 9:33:43 GMT -5
Oh my goodness. Can we please quit it with the grammar argument? Perhaps take it to PM if it bothers you so much, but let the rest of us discuss "Heartbeat." Arguing over whether or not someone used the word "literally" properly really doesn't need to take up 2 pages.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Nov 30, 2015 9:53:23 GMT -5
How is this any different than when people got upset at someone for calling "Heartbeat" a 'bro country' song? Weren't some of you arguing semantics then? The difference is that the debate about "Heartbeat"'s lyrics as they compare/contrast to bro country was a discussion about the song and recent radio context, so it was still on topic. The debate over "literally" may have begun as part of a discussion about Carrie's singles catalog, but now, especially in your posts, it no longer has anything to do with Carrie Underwood, "Heartbeat" or music -- it's about the proper use of the word "literally." So it's off-topic and it is, indeed, time for you to take it to PM if you're still hellbent on having the last word in that discussion. NeRD, for the most recent Mediabase chart week (which ended on Saturday night), "Heartbeat" was at #57 on that chart. To me, the point-of-view in this song is so obviously who Carrie truly is. She's a deep-loving introvert. What I love about this song is that it really captures who she is, who I think Mike is, and what happens is an event that could have easily happened between them in real life. While I don't love "Heartbeat," I agree with the way that you describe the song. For all its use of stock country imagery, "Heartbeat" still has a soul, in my view. As Storyteller love songs go, I think Carrie sings "Like I'll Never Love You Again" with more conviction and sensuality even if some of its lyrics might not reflect the lifestyle that she and Mike lead (and "Like I'll Never Love You Again" is just a prettier song). I also think that Carrie sings "What I Never Knew I Always Wanted" with more gratitude and wonder. Both songs fit Carrie's natural cadence better than "Heartbeat," so I think they leave more room for her to be herself musically. But I still find "Heartbeat" to be quite believable coming from Carrie. Question: Was Storyteller on sale anywhere in the past sales week that ended on Thanksgiving Day? Not the current one that includes Black Friday. I know from my own shopping experience that it wasn't on sale at Target or at iTunes for the sales week that ended on 26 November (well, I didn't check every day at iTunes, but I didn't see it on sale at iTunes at several points last week). I'm asking because it appears (from HDD's estimates, anyway) that Storyteller came close to doubling its weekly sales on the back of Carrie's AMA performance of "Heartbeat," which is a strong result regardless, and all the more so if it came without sale pricing at any major retailer. I actually thought the performance was fantastic. It was understated and elegant with great staging and better vocals. Also, I think it's key to note on something that 43dudleyvillas touched on - Sam Hunt wasn't used... at all. I actually do think he sang the normal BGV (which, to be honest, sounded a tad off), but I think she had him of to the side. If they were ever going to try and use Hunt's rising star, a pop show would be the time and they didn't. That, to me, says that Carrie probably isn't interested in using him as a gimmick but really meant it when she said that she just thought his voice would lend well to the song (which, it does). I agree with your assessment of Carrie's AMA performance, but I tend to think that it was someone in Carrie's band handling background vocals. It didn't quite sound like Sam to me, and I'm also having a hard time imagining that Carrie would have invited Sam to be on the stage for the song only to consign him to the shadows. I know that he was at the show, but I think they/their teams probably worked out that it didn't make sense for Sam to take the stage just to be a background vocalist, but that it also didn't make sense for him to be anything more on that particular song.
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Post by Massikur2 on Nov 30, 2015 10:26:11 GMT -5
Great to hear about the sales! What are we at now?
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 30, 2015 12:43:18 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 30, 2015 12:56:52 GMT -5
Great to hear about the sales! What are we at now? If it's Storyteller, 265,000. If it's Heartbeat, the last figure I have is at 31,000 (I'm sure it's higher than that).
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 30, 2015 15:58:24 GMT -5
"Heartbeat" got at least 46 MB adds on impact day.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 30, 2015 18:04:41 GMT -5
Great to hear about the sales! What are we at now? If it's Storyteller, 265,000. If it's Heartbeat, the last figure I have is at 31,000 (I'm sure it's higher than that). It'll definitely go Gold by year's end.
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Post by desertfloods on Nov 30, 2015 19:44:58 GMT -5
Excited for the video. Sneak peek looks great!
Do we know who directed the video?
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 30, 2015 21:20:55 GMT -5
"Heartbeat" debuts at #41 on Billboard Airplay this week.
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Post by desertfloods on Nov 30, 2015 22:10:27 GMT -5
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Post by Massikur2 on Nov 30, 2015 23:00:53 GMT -5
Sure did. Edit: Does anyone remember all the way back in 2005 when Carrie's team decided to reshoot the "Jesus, Take the Wheel" music video? I'm certain this happened, although Google provided no direct hits about such when I searched for any information regarding the event. Does anyone recall why that happened?
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Post by Stephen on Dec 1, 2015 0:37:30 GMT -5
Sure did. Edit: Does anyone remember all the way back in 2005 when Carrie's team decided to reshoot the "Jesus, Take the Wheel" music video? I'm certain this happened, although Google provided no direct hits about such when I searched for any information regarding the event. Does anyone recall why that happened? Low cut shirt and bad lip syncing. Swear to God that was why.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 1, 2015 0:41:09 GMT -5
Sure did. Edit: Does anyone remember all the way back in 2005 when Carrie's team decided to reshoot the "Jesus, Take the Wheel" music video? I'm certain this happened, although Google provided no direct hits about such when I searched for any information regarding the event. Does anyone recall why that happened? Low cut shirt and bad lip syncing. Swear to God that was why. That's really the entire reason? Can't say I'm surprised. Have you ever found the original video? I've sought it out for years, but have never come across it.
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Post by Stephen on Dec 1, 2015 0:48:11 GMT -5
Low cut shirt and bad lip syncing. Swear to God that was why. That's really the entire reason? Can't say I'm surprised. Have you ever found the original video? I've sought it out for years, but have never come across it. It wasn't ever released. We have stills of her in the low cut shirt (which isn't even that revealing, but it was about Jesus so... yeah) and in a CMT special they said she was a terrible lip syncer lol.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 1, 2015 1:07:39 GMT -5
That's really the entire reason? Can't say I'm surprised. Have you ever found the original video? I've sought it out for years, but have never come across it. It wasn't ever released. We have stills of her in the low cut shirt (which isn't even that revealing, but it was about Jesus so... yeah) and in a CMT special they said she was a terrible lip syncer lol. Was that In the Moment? I remember watching that special!
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Post by maddkat on Dec 1, 2015 6:40:13 GMT -5
Maybe they refilmed JTTW because they had her writhing around on a bed,lol.Doesn't exactly fit the song
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 1, 2015 11:38:46 GMT -5
Well, the music video is boring.
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Post by codyj100 on Dec 1, 2015 12:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by #brayden on Dec 1, 2015 13:13:01 GMT -5
Boring video for a boring single. This era is in desperate need of a single that will actually excite people. "Smoke Break" and "Heartbeat" just don't capture and hold attention like some of her previous singles have.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 1, 2015 14:05:44 GMT -5
"Heartbeat" got at least 46 MB adds on impact day. "Heartbeat's" official add total ended up being an even 50.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 17:24:35 GMT -5
Boring video for a boring single. This era is in desperate need of a single that will actually excite people. "Smoke Break" and "Heartbeat" just don't capture and hold attention like some of her previous singles have. I liked SB, thought it was great, HB is good maybe not as a single, but whatever. But just wait I feel the singles will be killer after this.
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