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Post by layne on Jan 18, 2016 13:12:06 GMT -5
I feel like he is getting kind of barbecued on here...? I feel like he's getting somewhat of a free pass. Even you said it's a guilty pleasure. Not exactly barbequing imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:12:46 GMT -5
Found the lyrics for anyone who hasn't been able to listen to the audio like me. Honestly, if this was any other popular male artist (Aldean, Bryan, Shelton...) this song would be getting ripped apart. It's DOAP 2.0 and some of those lyrics...As someone who has tended to lean more on the bro-country side, yet still likes music from both sides, I can say the lyrics seem to be pretty bad. I have never been a big Dierks fan, only liking a couple songs here and there, but I really enjoyed most of the Riser album, this is a step back for me if this is any indication of the new album's direction. Dierks Bentley, “Somewhere On a Beach” Lyrics: “Bet you think I’m sitting at home nah / Bet you think think that I’m all alone nah / Bet you think I’m missing you and wishing you would call my phone / Hell no / I went wheels up on a runway and that ticket was a one-way.” Chorus: “I’m somewhere on a beach, sipping something strong / Got a new girl, she got it going on / We drink all day and party all night / I’m way too gone to have you on my mind / She got a body, and she’s naughty / And she got me like you ain’t ever got me / I’m getting sun, getting some and I ain’t slept in a week / Yeah I’m somewhere on the beach.” “Heard you called my boys, heard you called my folks / They said you drove by my house real slow / You can check any spot, roll down every road but girl I ain’t even close.” “I wish it coulda worked out / But I’m gettin’ over you now / On a beach towel / With my shades on / My drink’s up / And the sun’s out.” Read More: Dierks Bentley, “Somewhere On a Beach” [Listen] | tasteofcountry.com/dierks-bentley-somewhere-on-a-beach/?trackback=tsmclipI agree if this was Blake Shelton he'd be getting barbequed on here. I do disagree it's DOAP 2.0. DOAP was well written, clever and unique. This song is none of those. Tell me, who exactly has given this a pass thus far just because of who Dierks is? Even the biggest Dierks fan here admitted this wasn't great.
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Post by layne on Jan 18, 2016 13:14:21 GMT -5
As I said, if this was a Blake Shelton thread, you'd see the difference imo.
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Post by carriekins on Jan 18, 2016 13:15:16 GMT -5
I feel like he is getting kind of barbecued on here...? I feel like he's getting somewhat of a free pass. Even you said it's a guilty pleasure. Not exactly barbequing imo. I said it feels like a guilty pleasure, which I don't expect from Dierks. But this is easily the most negative Dierks thread since probably 5150...I wasn't around much before then to speak to anything else.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 18, 2016 13:26:34 GMT -5
The audio is unavailable on my PC. It's also saying "sorry, that audio is unavailable" on my mobile device.
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Post by carriekins on Jan 18, 2016 13:29:01 GMT -5
The audio is unavailable on my PC. It's also saying "sorry, that audio is unavailable" on my mobile device. It's been taken down because they jumped the gun by a day.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 18, 2016 13:30:59 GMT -5
The audio is unavailable on my PC. It's also saying "sorry, that audio is unavailable" on my mobile device. It's been taken down because they jumped the gun by a day. Stupid me being busy this morning.
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Post by carriekins on Jan 18, 2016 13:33:08 GMT -5
It's been taken down because they jumped the gun by a day. Stupid me being busy this morning. Not missing much.
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Post by phil1996 on Jan 18, 2016 13:37:45 GMT -5
I feel like he is getting kind of barbecued on here...? I feel like he's getting somewhat of a free pass. Even you said it's a guilty pleasure. Not exactly barbequing imo. He comes out with quality material 99% of the time. Aldean and Shelton don't get free passes cause they've given in to the bro-country movement, and we all know how good those 2 can be (Fly Over States, Austin, etc)
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Post by layne on Jan 18, 2016 13:45:18 GMT -5
I feel like he's getting somewhat of a free pass. Even you said it's a guilty pleasure. Not exactly barbequing imo. He comes out with quality material 99% of the time. Aldean and Shelton don't get free passes cause they've given in to the bro-country movement, and we all know how good those 2 can be (Fly Over States, Austin, etc) Shelton has only had a few true bro songs. He puts out decent songs that get ripped on here most of the time because people expect so much more. This song by Dierks is exactly giving in and selling out to get a radio hit. just calling it like I see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:57:26 GMT -5
He comes out with quality material 99% of the time. Aldean and Shelton don't get free passes cause they've given in to the bro-country movement, and we all know how good those 2 can be (Fly Over States, Austin, etc) Shelton has only had a few true bro songs. He puts out decent songs that get ripped on here most of the time because people expect so much more. This song by Dierks is exactly giving in and selling out to get a radio hit. just calling it like I see it. Ripped to shreds? Hardly. People just often complain that it's the same ol' crap from Blake we've heard before, but ripped to shreds? Come on Again, who has said that this song carries any sort of quality? Many people are disappointed by it judging from the comments thus far.
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Post by bboat11 on Jan 18, 2016 14:22:20 GMT -5
Shelton has only had a few true bro songs. He puts out decent songs that get ripped on here most of the time because people expect so much more. This song by Dierks is exactly giving in and selling out to get a radio hit. just calling it like I see it. Ripped to shreds? Hardly. People just often complain that it's the same ol' crap from Blake we've heard before, but ripped to shreds? Come on Again, who has said that this song carries any sort of quality? Many people are disappointed by it judging from the comments thus far. I agree with you, but I can see where layne is getting his argument too. It seems like much of the negativity in this thread is stemming from disappointment in the song itself. Like they still respect and appreciate Dierks, and have been looking forward to hearing the song, but now that they have heard it are being critical of it. Whereas in a lot of Blake/Luke/Jason/FGL threads it can feel like people are being negative simply because they have a negative perception of the artists. Like the tone is negative from the outset. With Dierks, we all expected it to be a good song and are kinda surprised it's not, but with the aforementioned bros it seems sometimes that we would go into it expecting it to be a bad song. Personally, I am not sure I agree with that, as I definitely think there is a point where some of the bros have burned us enough times through the years to warrant a little bit of apprehension towards their releases. Dierks is definitely not in that boat. Anyway, regarding this song, I also missed the link this morning, so I will reserve judgment until I hear it!
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jan 18, 2016 14:22:23 GMT -5
Already with the meta-discussion on the overall reception of a single on this board and to what degree it reflects consistent principles versus artist favoritism? I thought that might have waited until more people had the chance to listen to and weigh in on the song.
In any event, I'm not sure why it's so surprising or wrong that an artist with a track record for mixing meaningful, well-written fare with party-friendly material (some of it well-written in its own right) wouldn't immediately attract the flames of hell for releasing a sub-par (to say the least) single. Since he was brought up, Jason Aldean has richly earned his reputation for recycling the same dull song on single after single after single (with a side of misogyny), and so yes, he carries a lot less good will among critical minds. Blake has mixed it up a bit more, but not to the point of earning a reputation for releasing quality music of late. Moreover, both are in a stronger position than Dierks to record and release what they want.
Meanwhile, Dierks comes into his new release with more good will because he is coming off a really quality run of Riser singles whether they were hits or not, starting with "Bourbon in Kentucky." Of course the knowledge that Dierks can do and has done better is going to condition the way people respond to a new release from him -- it magnifies the letdown but also increases people's inclination to overlook in favor of other material -- how could it not?
So "Somewhere on a Beach," which I only managed to listen to once before it was yanked, is disappointing not because Dierks is an established A-lister failing to use his free pass at country radio in consistent support of well-written, interesting and distinctive songs à la Jason & Blake, but because Dierks, on the brink of ascending to the A-list, seems to think that the path to doing so is via a "Drunk on a Plane" sequel that lacks all of the wit, cleverness and character layers (that combination of embarrassment, bitterness, sarcasm & self-consciousness) that its hit predecessor had. "Somewhere on the Beach" is the type of song that makes me shake my head at the brain trust that comprises an artist's team and how that brain trust reads and responds to the market. "Somewhere on a Beach" also seems like an object lesson in how the chase for status & success can hollow out the music and result in corporate minds treating the market as dumber than it is.
That said, Dierks' comments about Black and his pattern of past work suggest that his upcoming album won't lack for maturity, substance and quality, so it's also reasonable, I think, to limit the hand-wringing for the moment. So fingers crossed that he has much more interesting and better-written material lined up to follow this one.
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Post by tryexp on Jan 18, 2016 14:48:59 GMT -5
I've only listened to this once before it was taken down, but I kind of liked it. No, it's not Riser or I Hold On, but it's not terrible, and to release a commercial, fun song as a first single is probably a clever move. Lyrics wise it isn't great, but I loved the vocals and the production, so it's not like it's all bad.
If releasing a lead single that's more commercial than quality music is what it takes for the album to be a success I'm all for it. Way too many of my favourite artists released "quality" singles in the past and the albums never saw the light of day. I don't know how much creative control Dierks has, but I remember "Bourbon In Kentucky", so probably it's not only up to him all the time.
Also, why take it down when it's going to be released tomorrow? It's the internet, once it's there it's there forever...
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Post by carriekins on Jan 18, 2016 14:52:03 GMT -5
Also, why take it down when it's going to be released tomorrow? It's the internet, once it's there it's there forever... I believe Bobby Bones was supposed to have the exclusive world premiere and other iHeart stations would follow suit. Dierks is live in studio tomorrow with BB for the premiere.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 18, 2016 14:56:08 GMT -5
Also, why take it down when it's going to be released tomorrow? It's the internet, once it's there it's there forever... I believe Bobby Bones was supposed to have the exclusive world premiere and other iHeart stations would follow suit. Dierks is live in studio tomorrow with BB for the premiere. The bigger question is how do those other sites screw up so bad? It was no secret that this song was supposed to be premiered tomorrow morning, so that's just embarrassing to release the audio prematurely like they did.
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Post by tryexp on Jan 18, 2016 14:57:23 GMT -5
Also, why take it down when it's going to be released tomorrow? It's the internet, once it's there it's there forever... I believe Bobby Bones was supposed to have the exclusive world premiere and other iHeart stations would follow suit. Dierks is live in studio tomorrow with BB for the premiere. I get that, but apparently it was released on Australia or New Zealand already, because it's the 19th there. I think it's kind of obvious if you want to have an exclusive premiere you can't release it to iTunes early.
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Post by carriekins on Jan 18, 2016 15:04:38 GMT -5
I believe Bobby Bones was supposed to have the exclusive world premiere and other iHeart stations would follow suit. Dierks is live in studio tomorrow with BB for the premiere. I get that, but apparently it was released on Australia or New Zealand already, because it's the 19th there. I think it's kind of obvious if you want to have an exclusive premiere you can't release it to iTunes early. It's not on iTunes yet to my knowledge.
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Post by tryexp on Jan 18, 2016 15:07:22 GMT -5
I get that, but apparently it was released on Australia or New Zealand already, because it's the 19th there. I think it's kind of obvious if you want to have an exclusive premiere you can't release it to iTunes early. It's not on iTunes yet to my knowledge. I believe it out in New Zealand, at least if you google it it's pretty easy to find it, as well as illegal download links :|
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jan 18, 2016 21:34:03 GMT -5
I think this song will be good. I actually quite like the lyrics. They aren't objectifying in any way. Dierks knows how to stay true to what he does best. Although it may sound a little different, I think it's not really a polarizing song.
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Post by :) KUFan on Jan 18, 2016 23:07:09 GMT -5
This is now on iTunes: Somewhere on a Beach - Single by Dierks Bentley itun.es/us/UOScab
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jan 18, 2016 23:32:27 GMT -5
I think it sounds great! I'm a sucker for blues country sounding songs.
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Post by tim on Jan 18, 2016 23:55:08 GMT -5
I'm not sure how I feel about this one yet. The earlier references to this being DOAP 2.0 had me nervous since I'm one of the few it seems who wasn't much of a fan of that song, however layne is right in that DOAP was at least clever and unique. This is just there for me and lyrically very weak. Is it catchy? Sure. But overall it does feel like somewhat of a let down considering I was hoping this is the exact type of song I didn't think Dierks would lead with. Here's hoping the rest of the album has more depth.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 19, 2016 0:02:23 GMT -5
Yeesh, kind of knew that was coming judging by the comments but still rather disappointing. I guess I'm going to be the first to say I don't care too much for the production -- especially the chorus. However, it's those chorus lyrics that make me cringe...yikes. I understand that these party-type uptempos don't need the most Shakespearean lyrics but these are just plain bad, imo.
I've always enjoyed Dierks' voice and he does his best to elevate the song but this is my least favorite from him since the back-to-back combo of "5-1-5-0" and "Tip It On Back."
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jan 19, 2016 0:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by bboat11 on Jan 19, 2016 1:10:28 GMT -5
I enjoy the melody, as well as the production and the overall feel of the song. The only production choice I don't particularly like is the heavy backbeat drums in the chorus. But the LYRICS!!! She's got a body and she's naughty??? Is this really a Dierks Bentley song??! I like the song enough to where I will probably tolerate it on the radio, but this is a HUGE step backwards for him. Hopefully it does well though so that he can have another epic string of quality singles like he has had lately...
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Post by George Strait Junkie on Jan 19, 2016 1:50:41 GMT -5
sounds like a rejected FGL song man this is so damn terrible especially the chorus
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Post by ethanhunt on Jan 19, 2016 6:39:26 GMT -5
I was trying to give this song the benefit of the doubt... But then I heard the lyrics “She's got a body... And she's naughty."
Not even FGL is that obvious about that stuff. Come on Dierks you're capable of more
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Post by tvoss20 on Jan 19, 2016 7:20:34 GMT -5
I love the new sound for Dierks! My man crush on him grows yet again!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 7:22:01 GMT -5
I'm also not a fan of this one. Lyrics aside, the music does absolutely nothing for me. Nobody is going to fault Dierks for releasing a "Drunk on a Plane" every once in a while, but this isn't that.
All it takes is one look at the list of writers, the cover art, and the lyrics to know Dierks was "going" for something here.
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