2016 MTV Video Music Awards 8/28 NYC

[Enigma.]

From VMA Wikipedia page LMAO

Performances
Main show

Britney Spears
Justin Bieber
Zara Larsson
Miranda Lambert

[ddlz]

Aug 3, 2016 3:04:06 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

From VMA Wikipedia page LMAO

Performances
Main show

Britney Spears
Justin Bieber
Zara Larsson
Miranda Lambert

It can't get any worse than 2015, can it?

[Choco]

Unless those performers get a lot better I predict a ratings low this year.

[Enigma.]

I can actually buy Bieber and Larsson (as she's nominated for New Artist) and Spears (bit of a stretch though) but Lambert, I don't think so.

[Linnethia Monique]

Are they trying to do the surprise thing again by announcing the performers last minute again?

[DJ General]

Aug 5, 2016 9:40:13 GMT -5 Linnethia Monique said:

Are they trying to do the surprise thing again by announcing the performers last minute again?

There is no point to announce performances this early. We still are over 3 weeks away. They can announce them the week before or so and do 1 a day starting august 22 or something

[Linnethia Monique]

Aug 5, 2016 14:25:45 GMT -5 DJ General said:

Aug 5, 2016 9:40:13 GMT -5 Linnethia Monique said:

Are they trying to do the surprise thing again by announcing the performers last minute again?

There is no point to announce performances this early. We still are over 3 weeks away. They can announce them the week before or so and do 1 a day starting august 22 or something

Usually around this time at least 1 performer has either let out or has been announced to perform. Last year was the first year where the performers were announced only 5 days out and we saw how much of a sh!t lineup that was.

[Linnethia Monique]

Well scratch my dreams of Missy getting the Video Vanguard Award because it's going to Rihanna this year.

[Enigma.]

It's well deserved even though she doesn't have many ICONIC videos.

Hope that she'll also perform

[Linnethia Monique]

Aug 11, 2016 11:32:45 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

It's well deserved even though she doesn't have many ICONIC videos.

Hope that she'll also perform

They confirmed that she will be performing as well. I want her to perform all of her Drake collaborations and I went it to end with them publicly acknowledging that they are f#cking.

[Enigma.]

She was so awesome in Stockholm where I saw the Anti tour. Super excited!!

[Rican@]

Aug 11, 2016 11:32:45 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

It's well deserved even though she doesn't have many ICONIC videos.

Hope that she'll also perform

If JT could receive this, damn such that Rihanna could get it. He has like three videos in total?

Anyway, I would have loved for Usher to receive this award. He is very deserving.

[when the pawn...]

People who should be in line for it: Missy Elliott, Bjork (I know but still), Lady Gaga, Eminem

[#LisaRinna]

Welp. Vanguard

[Wave.]

Aye, her videos have been on.

[jenglisbe]

It's not that I'm against Rihanna getting it in and of herself as much as there are artists who have been around way longer and are overdue for such an award.

Why has no one mentioned Mariah Carey? Denim shorts in the "Dreamlover" video? Iconic. Roller blading in the "Fantasy" video and ODB typing up a clown? Iconic. Emerging from the pool in the "Honey" video? Iconic. The cutoff jeans and the altar ego in the "Heartbreaker" video? Iconic. Using her actual wedding dress from a failed marriage in the "We Belong Together" video? Iconic. Every single thing about the "Touch My Body" video? Iconic.

[Glove Slap]

None of those are iconic to anyone outside of Mariah's hardcore fanbase, aside from maybe the Honey dive, and even that's a reach. The only reason her fans even give a damn about those jean shorts is because it's in her rolodex of must-do self-references. For most, there is no video they really think of when they think of Mariah. It's moreso her singing power. But even if you don't consider all that, her best shot at getting the Vanguard would have been in the mid-late 00s when her contemporary presence was still strong. And to top it off, I don't believe she's ever actually won a VMA, so she's likely not high on their priority list (edit: yup, just checked. 6 noms and 0 wins).

Rihanna's videography has definite spottiness, but she's definitely gotten big attention on that front multiple times over the years. I'd say after WFL she became a contender for this. She also benefits from being at a point in her career where her celebrity is arguably the highest its ever been. Or if not, certainly close to it.

[nikkominaj]

I always loved the Man Down and Only Girl video. Also, S&M caused a huge controversy when it released so that was another iconic moment in pop culture.

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Aug 14, 2016 7:24:23 GMT -5 Glove Slap said:

None of those are iconic to anyone outside of Mariah's hardcore fanbase, aside from maybe the Honey dive, and even that's a reach. The only reason her fans even give a damn about those jean shorts is because it's in her rolodex of must-do self-references. For most, there is no video they really think of when they think of Mariah. It's moreso her singing power. But even if you don't consider all that, her best shot at getting the Vanguard would have been in the mid-late 00s when her contemporary presence was still strong. And to top it off, I don't believe she's ever actually won a VMA, so she's likely not high on their priority list (edit: yup, just checked. 6 noms and 0 wins).

Rihanna's videography has definite spottiness, but she's definitely gotten big attention on that front multiple times over the years. I'd say after WFL she became a contender for this. She also benefits from being at a point in her career where her celebrity is arguably the highest its ever been. Or if not, certainly close to it.

Yeah IIRC Mariah threw some lighthearted shade at the MTV back in the mid-00s for never giving her a moon man.

Mariah has a few objectively 'classic' videos IMO - Fantasy, Honey, Heartbreaker, possibly WBT, Touch My Body - so I'd disagree about those not being memorable to anyone outside the fanbase. But she doesn't have a lot of those moments compared to the ridiculous volume of hits she does have. Nonetheless, the way this award is set up these days it's clear that notable videos are not actually a priority (I mean, how many truly iconic videos did JT have?) so that isn't what is holding her back. MTV wants to give the award to people who are still commercially relevant and will bring in some ratings. Someone who has been around for 10 to 11 years hits the sweet spot; someone who's been around for 25+ years, that ship has very likely sailed. The best time for Mariah to get it would have been around E=MC². Same for Usher and Missy; those are two people who I would love to see get it but I don't find it very likely for Ush and chances are virtually nil for Missy.

If Katy and Gaga are both still relevant in 2018-2019 I can see one or both of them getting it. Taylor might very well be next on deck; how easy it is to forget that she's legit a veteran musician now.

[Deleted]

Honestly when I think of iconic videos from Rihanna, I don't recall. She is not very high on the visual imagery for me when it comes to videos outside of looking sexy or pretty (BBHMM might be the most storyline?). She doesnt have that 1 video like Missy or Beyonce "Single Ladies or Michael (basically most of his) . Her every day life is more visually iconic. I thinks its more a case they are running out of people who are on par with the greats of videos who are relevant or iconic. Hell I'd rather give Busta Rhymes the Vanguard . He is far more deserving even though hell would freeze over before MTV gave him it.

[Linnethia Monique]

Mariah is only here for BET.

[14887fan]

I will never understand the "let's wait until 5 days before the show to reveal all of the performers" method. Doesn't build hype, casual watchers are usually much less aware that the show is even happening because of there never being any headline about the show leading up to it, etc. 2 weeks out has always seemed to make sense to me, but whatevs.

Also lol @ the Wikipedia page listing Miranda Lambert as a performer.

[elsewhere]

excited for the performers

[Deleted]

Aug 15, 2016 18:14:43 GMT -5 14887fan said:

I will never understand the "let's wait until 5 days before the show to reveal all of the performers" method. Doesn't build hype, casual watchers are usually much less aware that the show is even happening because of there never being any headline about the show leading up to it, etc. 2 weeks out has always seemed to make sense to me, but whatevs.

Also lol @ the Wikipedia page listing Miranda Lambert as a performer.

This "method" really only makes sense if it's more indicative of a scramble to get some bigger headliners. Last year I kind of felt that is what happened. But this year we have Rihanna for the Vanguard, Britney verified, Katy all but a given, doesn't seem like it would be too hard to book Bieber, Ariana, and 21P if they really wanted to...so I don't know why they wouldn't go ahead and hype that up. Even if that's an incomplete list, it's a solid one.

[Deleted]

Ariana and Britney in the same night is all I ask for, so I'm excited.

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[Dylan :)]

Ariana better be performing!

[Deleted]

For a split second I forgot how overwhelming my ophiophobia was. Thanks for reminding me with all those fucking close-ups, Brit-Brit!

Great promo otherwise but dammit

[Enigma.]

Yay great to have her on stage

[mistakenforlove]

bad noms but ok damn vmas


vid of year:

beyoncé- formation

best male video:

the weeknd- cant feel my face/ kanye west- famous

best female video:

adele- hello

best collab:

rihanna- work/ fifth harmony- work from home

BEYONCE GONNA GET 5 vmas and ADELE  gonna get 6
last year taylor swift only won 4/10 vmas LOL