Verisimilitude
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Post by Verisimilitude on Aug 29, 2016 8:18:25 GMT -5
I'm still trying to comprehend why people treat Beyonce like she's the salt of the earth, but that's just me.
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Post by pnobelysk on Aug 29, 2016 8:25:21 GMT -5
I'm regards to big acts like riri Katy Justin bieber etc, I'd say Ed Sheehan has proved himself. His first two albums have both sold over 2 million I believe and he's worked up quite the list of hit singles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 8:56:42 GMT -5
Was there a host this year? Or no? No traditional host. There were various "correspondents" - DJ Khaled and Jay Pharoah in the stands, Nicole Byer backstage, and Key and Peele playing "social media influencers" in the press box. The latter two were probably the closest things to "hosts" - they appeared after most segments to sarcastically deliver bad jokes. Ah. That makes sense. Thank you!
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Post by allow that on Aug 29, 2016 9:01:39 GMT -5
This year's awards were just okay. Even though it had Rihanna, Britney, Kanye, and a usually-elusive Beyonce present, it just felt like there were a lot less A-Listers than usual. Fewer performances, fewer awards, and more attemps at creating memes. Lame.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 29, 2016 9:02:51 GMT -5
I think they did well in sense of highlights, however there was nothing to complete it to a great show
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 10:22:52 GMT -5
Compared to 2015: this one had way better performances but wasn't as entertaining as 2015 given the fact that all the hosts did a shit job
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 10:43:19 GMT -5
Current Positions of Performed Songs:
#1 Closer #2 Make Me #8 Mama Said #27 Needed Me #29 Hold Up #30 Sorry #35 Formation #40 Side To Side #51 Love On the Brain #55 Bacon #81 Work #85 Pray You Catch Me #89 Fuck Up Some Commas #93 Don't Hurt Yourself #122 WILD #126 Me, Myself & I #168 Scars To Your Beautiful #181 Little Bit More #184 Stay #190 Bitch Better Have My Money #197 Wild Things
Additional: Some songs off LEMONADE have also returned to the Top 200 (the album shot up to #4 on the Albums Chart so sales increase is major for many of the tracks) #150 Freedom #152 6 Inch #176 All Night
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Post by Rican@ on Aug 29, 2016 12:07:57 GMT -5
The award show was ok.
I enjoyed Rihanna's performances a lot. I don't know if it was just the music that I liked so much or just her. Her stage presence is cute because she has such an "around the way homegirl" vibe to her. I loved each performance had a certain feel to them. Even though, she had her issue with "Needed Me", I still think she did great. She honestly felt like the only one who was singing live. I also think she deserved a few awards including Best Collabs, Female, and Video.
I know her and Beyonce came at the same time, but again Beyonce's execution is making her win these awards. I can't knock her even though I felt some type of way that she could stay for the VMA not the BET Awards. BET, you know what she is saying
Beyonce, the performance was quite boring to me. The songs were so into each other, it was weird to me. It was also very long too. I could do without it honestly. It wasn't as if I didn't like it. It just her hype is not merit for what she gives out, imo.
Britney, look like she was still in rehearsal. I laughed most of her performance.
I enjoyed Alicia's segment.
Future, whoever else. Yawn.
Ok. I'm done.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 29, 2016 12:33:30 GMT -5
It was actually refreshing that Future did Commas and not a newer hit single
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Post by DJ General on Aug 29, 2016 12:42:59 GMT -5
#88 - Future - Fuck Up Some Commas #86 - Beyonce - Don't Hurt Yourself #78 - Grace/G-Eazy - You Don't Own Me #75 - Rihanna - work #73 - Kanye West - Famous #71 - Beyonce - Pray You Catch Me #53 - Nick Jonas - Bacon #51 - Fifth Harmony - Work From Home #49 - Rihanna - Love On THe Brain #39 - Ariana Grande - Side To Side #33 - Beyonce - Formation #29 - Beyonce - Sorry #28 - Rihanna - Needed Me #27 - Beyonce - Hold Up #20 - Calvin Harris - This Is What You Came For #8 - Lukas Graham - Mama Said #2 - Britney Spears - Make Me... #1 - The Chainsmokers - Closer
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 13:22:03 GMT -5
Thanks to the torrents I watched the show Riri kicked the awards with the most wtf part of her performances...Pink suits were ... no comment. Other 3 were better.
Beyonce ... it seems she is doing every year some kind of prolongued 'monologue' It is great to see it once ( as it is meant to be wow) but every year to let her do her 30 minutes show ...
Britney was ok. Nick Jonas ok too, but a bit better. Other performances I did not watch
As I said, glad DNCE won The highlight for me was Drake. He is freeeeking hot!
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Post by Duca on Aug 29, 2016 15:56:10 GMT -5
TV Ratings: MTV VMAs Drop Again, Draw 6.5 Million Viewers Across Nets The flagship show for the cable network sees streaming spike but a 34 percent drop.
The MTV Video Music Awards saw another year of diminished audience returns on Sunday night. Across 11 Viacom networks, the premiere telecast brought in 6.5 million viewers.
Compared to last year's show, which pulled a similar move by casting a wide net across the cable entertainment suite, the VMAs are down by more than 4 million viewers (a 34 percent drop). All told, the 2015 show grossed just shy of 10 million viewers across all of the networks.
With headlining performances by Beyonce, Rihanna and Britney Spears, this year's VMAs mark a low for ratings on the main network, as well. Last year it brought 5 million viewers, falling from the 8.3 million in 2014.
The network was quick to point to more promising streaming data on Monday morning.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 15:58:00 GMT -5
TV Ratings: MTV VMAs Drop Again, Draw 6.5 Million Viewers Across Nets The flagship show for the cable network sees streaming spike but a 34 percent drop.
The MTV Video Music Awards saw another year of diminished audience returns on Sunday night. Across 11 Viacom networks, the premiere telecast brought in 6.5 million viewers.
Compared to last year's show, which pulled a similar move by casting a wide net across the cable entertainment suite, the VMAs are down by more than 4 million viewers (a 34 percent drop). All told, the 2015 show grossed just shy of 10 million viewers across all of the networks.
With headlining performances by Beyonce, Rihanna and Britney Spears, this year's VMAs mark a low for ratings on the main network, as well. Last year it brought 5 million viewers, falling from the 8.3 million in 2014.
The network was quick to point to more promising streaming data on Monday morning. That's not good.
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Post by irice22 on Aug 29, 2016 16:09:06 GMT -5
Rihanna fans, is this what her concerts are like? Her songs play in the background and she decides at random when to sing along?
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Post by Wave. on Aug 29, 2016 16:23:29 GMT -5
Bruh. Like everyone fucks up sometime, no one is perfect.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 29, 2016 16:31:59 GMT -5
TV Ratings: MTV VMAs Drop Again, Draw 6.5 Million Viewers Across Nets The flagship show for the cable network sees streaming spike but a 34 percent drop.
The MTV Video Music Awards saw another year of diminished audience returns on Sunday night. Across 11 Viacom networks, the premiere telecast brought in 6.5 million viewers.
Compared to last year's show, which pulled a similar move by casting a wide net across the cable entertainment suite, the VMAs are down by more than 4 million viewers (a 34 percent drop). All told, the 2015 show grossed just shy of 10 million viewers across all of the networks.
With headlining performances by Beyonce, Rihanna and Britney Spears, this year's VMAs mark a low for ratings on the main network, as well. Last year it brought 5 million viewers, falling from the 8.3 million in 2014.
The network was quick to point to more promising streaming data on Monday morning. Their new strategy of withholding performers until the last minute has definitely played into the ratings being poor yet again. What draws attention is anticipation and not mystery. A tweet announcing Beyoncé as a performer 30 minutes before air time is dumb as hell. Announcing that Beyoncé would perform her critically acclaimed body of work 1-2 weeks in advance would've drawn more anticipation. The only thing that people had to look forward to was Rihanna. Nick Jonas, Future, and The Chainsmokers weren't going to be bringing in any ratings nor do they have the WOW factor to have anybody waiting until they performed.
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 29, 2016 16:46:34 GMT -5
Couldn't be happier about my decision to DVR this so I could fast-forward through Jay Pharoah, DJ Khaled, and the awfulness of Key & Peele. They were indescribably bad.
Beyonce & Rihanna were, no surprise, standouts. The first half of Ariana Grande's performance was a mess, but I liked the creative effort. Winners were predictable, though I'm surprised Adele didn't win anything after being one of the top nominees. Could explain why she didn't bother showing up for a performance, though she didn't really need it anyways.
The value of the VMAs has just spiraled over the last few years. MTV tries way too hard to be a social media-centered show, built entirely around shock value and the same rotating 10-15 big names as headline performers each year. Nothing is original, nothing is game-changing, and nothing is really hype-worthy anymore, especially since they've decided to go along the "let's wait until the first commercial break before we announce who's peforming, THAT'LL PULL 'EM IN!" route. The show always ceases to entertain me now. Meh.
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Post by nikkominaj on Aug 29, 2016 17:12:18 GMT -5
There was no hype for the show to begin with. Withholding performers is such a dumb idea.
Key and Peele also single handedly destroyed the show, and I usually find their TV show funny.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Aug 29, 2016 17:27:12 GMT -5
Key and Peele's decision to host that way was SO BIZARRE. I totally get what they were trying to do, subversively poking at the banality/ridiculousness of the social media machine. But then they're hosting a show that's main goal is to be a giant f**king hashtag/meme. Just a poor choice. I would have admired it more if they had actually done it intelligently and were funny. But they weren't.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 29, 2016 19:33:02 GMT -5
I switched to the show only when the ABC game shows had a commercial, so I missed Queen Bey's showcase.
The VMAs has gone down the tubes in recent years- was this another year when fans/online voting determined the outcomes of non-technical categories?
Most money is still made from TV advertising, thus those ratings are troublesome.
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Post by jebsib on Aug 29, 2016 20:25:12 GMT -5
MTV missed the 8 year old memo that the top of the charts aren't 90% Hip-Hop anymore.
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Post by felipe on Aug 29, 2016 21:18:32 GMT -5
Britney, look like she was still in rehearsal. I laughed most of her performance. I enjoyed Alicia's segment. I laughed through most of Britney's performance too. The first half she looked like any random stripper just dancing to a song, second half it was like she didn't even know the lyrics to Me Myself and I. Alicia totally owned the audience with that segment. No wonder she's being called one of the standouts today.
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Post by BDGeek on Aug 29, 2016 23:19:39 GMT -5
I've had the same thoughts. I may make a thread on this in a different forum (feel free to beat me to it), but my hypothesis is this: In the Internet/social media age, it's easier than ever before for music creators to get their work out there. This has its pros and cons. While many artists now have a platform for exposure they never would've had in previous decades, a lot of mediocrity is oversaturating the system. No talent is really able to stand out anymore; when it does, it's quickly lost to the vacuum of Spotify, YouTube, etc. to make way for the next one. And with such a heavy emphasis on appearance, visuals, and social media engagement, actual musical talent has become sort of secondary. Of course, this is completely subjective based on my own experience and listening habits. But I am concerned we now live in an age where we will no longer be able to produce the likes of Madonna, Prince, or Stevie Wonder. The superstar is effectively dead. You should make a thread on this, it's qute an interesting topic. I just feel lucky enough to have lived in an era and experienced super stars with SUPER talent to accompany it. We won't have another talented huge star like Michael Jackson, or Prince and even those huge stars that are still with us aren't really that appreciated mainstream anymore (Mariah, Janet, etc). Thread is up in the Opinions forum. :) Discuss!
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Post by BDGeek on Aug 29, 2016 23:29:23 GMT -5
TV Ratings: MTV VMAs Drop Again, Draw 6.5 Million Viewers Across Nets The flagship show for the cable network sees streaming spike but a 34 percent drop.
The MTV Video Music Awards saw another year of diminished audience returns on Sunday night. Across 11 Viacom networks, the premiere telecast brought in 6.5 million viewers.
Compared to last year's show, which pulled a similar move by casting a wide net across the cable entertainment suite, the VMAs are down by more than 4 million viewers (a 34 percent drop). All told, the 2015 show grossed just shy of 10 million viewers across all of the networks.
With headlining performances by Beyonce, Rihanna and Britney Spears, this year's VMAs mark a low for ratings on the main network, as well. Last year it brought 5 million viewers, falling from the 8.3 million in 2014.
The network was quick to point to more promising streaming data on Monday morning. Their new strategy of withholding performers until the last minute has definitely played into the ratings being poor yet again. What draws attention is anticipation and not mystery. A tweet announcing Beyoncé as a performer 30 minutes before air time is dumb as hell. Announcing that Beyoncé would perform her critically acclaimed body of work 1-2 weeks in advance would've drawn more anticipation. The only thing that people had to look forward to was Rihanna. Nick Jonas, Future, and The Chainsmokers weren't going to be bringing in any ratings nor do they have the WOW factor to have anybody waiting until they performed. It also doesn't help that the show is basically unviewable online. Millennials aren't paying for cable and thus can't watch without tracking down some crappy illegal stream. Same problem NBC had with this year's Olympics. These networks need to figure out a way to allow easier streaming access. An online-only subscription, a one-time viewing fee for award/event shows, something. Otherwise they are going to keep losing viewers.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 30, 2016 1:36:01 GMT -5
Rihanna fans, is this what her concerts are like? Her songs play in the background and she decides at random when to sing along? I've been to two and have had the time of my life. She so good and inspiring.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 30, 2016 2:15:21 GMT -5
Last year VMAs broke the social media records and this year Beyonce delivered a performance that will go top 5 in history of VMAs. Nobody can say that it's irrelevant. Read this feature: uproxx.com/tv/1992-vmas-mtv-looking-back/do you really want the show to be LIKE THAT? Like handicapped Van Halen getting awards? Whilst 1992 was iconic, look at how far VMAs have come from the domination of old rockers over 40s. Look at how popular culture has changed! No other show represents all that. The beauty of the VMAs is that they ALWAYS represent the current time, there's nothing dusty about it. There are no Bob Dylans or Paul Mccartneys taking the stage for 25th time in a row. It might not seem as traditional award show but think about the 2016 VMAs in 20 years time? They will REPRESENT the 2016, in good or worse. The show itself hasn't been about awards in decades. The awards are there as a platform and they ARE important in cumulative sense, hell look at the million likes Beyonce got when she showed her Moonmen on Instagram, she really was happy about it. It IS important to acknowledge such masterpieces as Lemonade or Hotline Bling or the legacy of Rihanna who has achieved more than any other act in 11 years time. I love the VMAs, they are the most representing 3 hours each year in popular culture.
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Aug 30, 2016 2:25:10 GMT -5
MTV missed the 8 year old memo that the top of the charts aren't 90% Hip-Hop anymore. Yes!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 2:30:15 GMT -5
MTV missed the 8 year old memo that the top of the charts aren't 90% Hip-Hop anymore. Yes! BLANK STARE! Whyyyyyy are you still here?
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Aug 30, 2016 2:59:27 GMT -5
BLANK STARE! Whyyyyyy are you still here? I've been a member on this board for 10 years now. Technically it will be 10 years on November 5.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 3:05:46 GMT -5
BLANK STARE! Whyyyyyy are you still here? I've been a member on this board for 10 years now. Technically it will be 10 years on November 5. Wonderful, yet all I know you for is one racist comment. BLOCKED!
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