Dierks Bentley - "Different For Girls" (feat. Elle King)

[carriekins]

May 27, 2016 9:08:00 GMT -5 @cjbhab said:

I like the song but can't help but think the lyrics are a bit off..
I think it's easier for girls to get over a breakup than guys.. By a wide margin.. If you are an attractive girl there are 92 guys waiting to date you the next day but as a guy if that unbelievable girl you're head over heels for leaves you are depressed for 5 years.

Just because guys may be willing to date an "attractive" female after a breakup doesn't mean she's anywhere close to getting over it lol. I mean, yeah, you try to move on so on the outside it might look one way but when you're alone you're still a hot mess eating a pint of Ben & Jerry's, staring at his number in your phone wondering when you'll have the nerve to delete it, and going through wine like it's water. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.

Also the song isn't saying it's easier for guys necessarily, just that it's different. And I think fundamentally that's true - girls generally deal with emotions in very different ways than guys.

[rsmatto]

May 27, 2016 9:17:36 GMT -5 carriekins said:

May 27, 2016 9:08:00 GMT -5 @cjbhab said:

I like the song but can't help but think the lyrics are a bit off..
I think it's easier for girls to get over a breakup than guys.. By a wide margin.. If you are an attractive girl there are 92 guys waiting to date you the next day but as a guy if that unbelievable girl you're head over heels for leaves you are depressed for 5 years.

Just because guys may be willing to date an "attractive" female after a breakup doesn't mean she's anywhere close to getting over it lol. I mean, yeah, you try to move on so on the outside it might look one way but when you're alone you're still a hot mess eating a pint of Ben & Jerry's, staring at his number in your phone wondering when you'll have the nerve to delete it, and going through wine like it's water. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.

Also the song isn't saying it's easier for guys necessarily, just that it's different. And I think fundamentally that's true - girls generally deal with emotions in very different ways than guys.

Exactly. It's not an easier than or harder than song. It's about guys medicating themselves and or having one night stands while still in pain while girls have vastly different reactions to relationships ending. That's what makes the song interesting.

[hosssulpizio]

This song is great! The lyrics are great as well. Wasn't really a fan of Elle King before this but I am now, but I still dislike "Ex's and Oh's".

[43dudleyvillas]

I see where @cantmakethisup is coming from. I think that the point of view of "Different for Girls" comes across oddly in the radio context. There have been so many country radio singles from women that rail against the idea of the heartbroken girl moping at home -- perhaps they're going to go out looking hotter than ever (Reba's "Goin' Out Like That" and Kellie Pickler's "Red High Heels" are the first two songs coming to mind for me, but there are many others) or maybe they're out being the hell-raising "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend." The pop landscape is full of female "better after breakup" songs (Kelly Clarkson's "Since U Been Gone" is probably one of the defining ones, Beyoncé's "Irreplaceable" is another). There's a fairly common theme of females who discover that they had subsumed themselves in the course of a relationship, who step out post-break-up to reclaim their identities as worthy individuals. Not that there aren't also songs in which females take some time to quietly process their heartbreak, especially in the immediate aftermath. But I can see how a song that makes the sweeping statements that "Different for Girls" does might come off as a bit...outdated?

On the other hand, I also agree that "Different for Girls" makes sense in the context of Black, particularly if you think of it as a post-"Somewhere on a Beach" reflection by the narrator of the song (who, let's face it, is probably not the most evolved of thinkers in the first place). In that character, Dierks sounds appropriately chagrined during "Different for Girls" about the "Somewhere on a Beach" antics and all the scorn that he was heaping on his ex. So it's clear to me that "Different for Girls"' inclusion on the album and its selection as the single to follow "Somewhere on a Beach" is purposeful.

I've listened through Black once and it's a happy relief to find my favorites from the album from among the tracks that hadn't been released prior to today. I wish that "Mardi Gras" had been the lead single instead of "Somewhere on the Beach."

[sabre14]

May 27, 2016 9:31:02 GMT -5 rsmatto said:

May 27, 2016 9:17:36 GMT -5 carriekins said:

Just because guys may be willing to date an "attractive" female after a breakup doesn't mean she's anywhere close to getting over it lol. I mean, yeah, you try to move on so on the outside it might look one way but when you're alone you're still a hot mess eating a pint of Ben & Jerry's, staring at his number in your phone wondering when you'll have the nerve to delete it, and going through wine like it's water. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.

Also the song isn't saying it's easier for guys necessarily, just that it's different. And I think fundamentally that's true - girls generally deal with emotions in very different ways than guys.

Exactly. It's not an easier than or harder than song. It's about guys medicating themselves and or having one night stands while still in pain while girls have vastly different reactions to relationships ending. That's what makes the song interesting.

I definitely see the song saying it's just a different way to go about things from a broad sense (men and women) and I do like the song...but I personally have never done anything in the song's first verse after heartbreak or a breakup, especially the lyric "I gotta get laid tonight." Maybe texted a friend or family member looking for a conversation sure, but perhaps that's coming from a point of view (the songwriters -- Harding, McAnally) where guys do act like that -- maybe most men? I don't know for sure -- all I know is I certainly don't and I hope women don't feel that all or even most guys deal with breakups or heartbreak like that.

[ethanhunt]

Hate to be the party people here (especially as a big fan of Dierks) but I kind of hate this

[Deleted]

Enjoyed reading your feedback on my previous posts.
On a separate note, really enjoying "light it up", lyrics remind me of a better "H.O.L.Y" by FGL.
Using religious references to describe happiness/love in regards to a female, the song is REALLY good all around. Could easily see it being a radio single if not for H.O.L.Y.

[carriekins]

May 27, 2016 14:33:45 GMT -5 @cantmakethisup said:

Enjoyed reading your feedback on my previous posts.
On a separate note, really enjoying "light it up", lyrics remind me of a better "H.O.L.Y" by FGL.
Using religious references to describe happiness/love in regards to a female, the song is REALLY good all around. Could easily see it being a radio single if not for H.O.L.Y.

I was literally just listening to that song and had the same thoughts! HOLY falls flat for me in a lot of ways, but I agree, it works far better in Light it Up. Really solid song.

[babybuffalo]

May 27, 2016 14:20:03 GMT -5 ethanhunt said:

Hate to be the party people here (especially as a big fan of Dierks) but I kind of hate this

Hate might be a strong word for me but I don't like Dierks and Elle's voices together. The song is just okay. I think its a lot of cliches wrapped up as pseudo-female empowerment. I think Dierks heart was in the right place but this is just not doing it for me.

Also, I haven't seen any comments about Black. I was REALLY looking forward to that one but lyrics like ” Make my world go black” it gave me a real negative reaction. As a female my mind couldn't help but go to such a dark place. Dierks can do intimacy in such a sexy but respectful way. I think Black is my least favorite track on the album.

[Kentucky25]

I heard this and was hoping Pulse was having a similar discussion to the one we had with Michael Ray's "Real Men Love Jesus" if we're gonna tear at one song for generalizing and stereotyping, I think we should tear at all of them...tehehe.

On a more serious, less trolling note, I think that this is definitely a step up from SOAB, but these two singles and a preliminary skim through Black has me thinking I prefer the Riser era.
Also, I've never really listened to Elle King, but I really enjoy her voice and think the kind of "raspiness" both singers have works well together.

[Daryl the Beryl]

Album is now #1 on iTunes, ahead of Fifth Harmony!

[sabre14]

"Different For Girls" debuts at #38 on Mediabase this week.

[Typo]

Did RaeLynn have a hand in writing this?

[maine]

May 29, 2016 21:33:20 GMT -5 Typo said:

Did RaeLynn have a hand in writing this?

Just Shane McAnally & JT Harding.

[sabre14]

"Different For Girls" is the second most added song on Mediabase this week with 45 adds.

[straitouttanashville]

May 27, 2016 9:08:00 GMT -5 @cjbhab said:

I like the song but can't help but think the lyrics are a bit off..
I think it's easier for girls to get over a breakup than guys.. By a wide margin.. If you are an attractive girl there are 92 guys waiting to date you the next day but as a guy if that unbelievable girl you're head over heels for leaves you are depressed for 5 years.

This is so true it should not even be an opinion, just a fact. Men do way worse with breakups. Men seem to see all the time invested as a negitive or loss, where Women see it the time invested as a positive learning experience. I do like this song though. It would be better with a female country voice IMO. Country Superstars (Paisley, Bentley) should be singing these songs with Female up and coming stars, no Pop singers. Look at the momentum a song like "Think Of You" gave Cassadee Pope. "TOY" could have been a #1 without Pope, but adding her gave her a #1 and helped her career. This should have been with Cam, Kelsea Balerini, Rachel Rienhart or even a female unsigned country artist. Just my opinion though.

[dm2081]

May 31, 2016 20:44:47 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

May 27, 2016 9:08:00 GMT -5 @cjbhab said:

I like the song but can't help but think the lyrics are a bit off..
I think it's easier for girls to get over a breakup than guys.. By a wide margin.. If you are an attractive girl there are 92 guys waiting to date you the next day but as a guy if that unbelievable girl you're head over heels for leaves you are depressed for 5 years.

This is so true it should not even be an opinion, just a fact. Men do way worse with breakups. Men seem to see all the time invested as a negitive or loss, where Women see it the time invested as a positive learning experience. I do like this song though. It would be better with a female country voice IMO. Country Superstars (Paisley, Bentley) should be singing these songs with Female up and coming stars, no Pop singers. Look at the momentum a song like "Think Of You" gave Cassadee Pope. "TOY" could have been a #1 without Pope, but adding her gave her a #1 and helped her career. This should have been with Cam, Kelsea Balerini, Rachel Rienhart or even a female unsigned country artist. Just my opinion though.

Elle King isn't a Pop singer though, she's an Alternative format artist who just happened to breakthrough with a Pop hit.  Her primary home will remain Alternative, and if you listen to her album it's very bluesy/rock/country sounding.  She doesn't have a Pop sound at all on her album.  I'm actually still pretty shocked that "Ex's And Oh's" was such a big hit.

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May 31, 2016 20:44:47 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

May 27, 2016 9:08:00 GMT -5 @cjbhab said:

I like the song but can't help but think the lyrics are a bit off..
I think it's easier for girls to get over a breakup than guys.. By a wide margin.. If you are an attractive girl there are 92 guys waiting to date you the next day but as a guy if that unbelievable girl you're head over heels for leaves you are depressed for 5 years.

This is so true it should not even be an opinion, just a fact. Men do way worse with breakups. Men seem to see all the time invested as a negitive or loss, where Women see it the time invested as a positive learning experience. I do like this song though. It would be better with a female country voice IMO. Country Superstars (Paisley, Bentley) should be singing these songs with Female up and coming stars, no Pop singers. Look at the momentum a song like "Think Of You" gave Cassadee Pope. "TOY" could have been a #1 without Pope, but adding her gave her a #1 and helped her career. This should have been with Cam, Kelsea Balerini, Rachel Rienhart or even a female unsigned country artist. Just my opinion though.

There is no proof that "Think Of You" has made Cassadee have more momentum, her new song "Summer" could just as easily flame out. So it's yet to be determined of how Cassadee will do. 

[carriekins]

May 31, 2016 20:44:47 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

May 27, 2016 9:08:00 GMT -5 @cjbhab said:

I like the song but can't help but think the lyrics are a bit off..
I think it's easier for girls to get over a breakup than guys.. By a wide margin.. If you are an attractive girl there are 92 guys waiting to date you the next day but as a guy if that unbelievable girl you're head over heels for leaves you are depressed for 5 years.

This is so true it should not even be an opinion, just a fact. Men do way worse with breakups. Men seem to see all the time invested as a negitive or loss, where Women see it the time invested as a positive learning experience. I do like this song though. It would be better with a female country voice IMO. Country Superstars (Paisley, Bentley) should be singing these songs with Female up and coming stars, no Pop singers. Look at the momentum a song like "Think Of You" gave Cassadee Pope. "TOY" could have been a #1 without Pope, but adding her gave her a #1 and helped her career. This should have been with Cam, Kelsea Balerini, Rachel Rienhart or even a female unsigned country artist. Just my opinion though.

Do you guys actually know any women? I can't comprehend this line of thought at all. I definitely don't look back at all my past relationships as positive learning experiences, I look back on a few of them to this day with an eye roll and a WTF was I thinking and they were like twenty years ago.

Society as a majority would agree that women have a harder time after a breakup. Please note that I said MAJORITY rather than as a whole. We process emotions completely differently than (most) men - THAT is a fact. And as the song says "doesn't mean that it's fair," but it is what it is. No, not all men react as is portrayed in the song. Not all women do either. But this thought that it's easy for women because we have "guys lined up" is honestly gross and borderline offensive.

As for his choice to record with Elle, I think their voices sound great together. I love the folky smokiness of her voice, and I think she sounds right at home.

[countryboy79]

May 31, 2016 21:52:38 GMT -5 carriekins said:

As for his choice to record with Elle, I think their voices sound great together. I love the folky smokiness of her voice, and I think she sounds right at home.

I agree with you. 
I don't like the combination Blake / Gwen and Brad / Demi voices, but this seems to me very appropriate. 

[straitouttanashville]

May 31, 2016 21:48:41 GMT -5 raylatch98 said:

May 31, 2016 20:44:47 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

This is so true it should not even be an opinion, just a fact. Men do way worse with breakups. Men seem to see all the time invested as a negitive or loss, where Women see it the time invested as a positive learning experience. I do like this song though. It would be better with a female country voice IMO. Country Superstars (Paisley, Bentley) should be singing these songs with Female up and coming stars, no Pop singers. Look at the momentum a song like "Think Of You" gave Cassadee Pope. "TOY" could have been a #1 without Pope, but adding her gave her a #1 and helped her career. This should have been with Cam, Kelsea Balerini, Rachel Rienhart or even a female unsigned country artist. Just my opinion though.

There is no proof that "Think Of You" has made Cassadee have more momentum, her new song "Summer" could just as easily flame out. So it's yet to be determined of how Cassadee will do. 

I understand "Summer" has done nothing yet, and could flame out. Is your point that having Cassadee Pope on "Think Of You" doesn't nothing to help her get more eyeballs on her career? My point was if a huge country superstar does a duet with a lesser known person, male or female, that lesser known person will benefit. Right now we are all talking about Elle King who just had a Pop music hit, so for me that makes her a Pop singer. Elle King is going to be introduced to some listeners who would never know her unless Bentley did a duet with her. It would be nice for Dierks to have someone like Maren Morris, Mickey Guyton or even Jana Kramer on this track, women who are on the Country genre. Thats all I am saying.

[carriekins]

Jun 2, 2016 10:57:24 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

May 31, 2016 21:48:41 GMT -5 raylatch98 said:

There is no proof that "Think Of You" has made Cassadee have more momentum, her new song "Summer" could just as easily flame out. So it's yet to be determined of how Cassadee will do. 

I understand "Summer" has done nothing yet, and could flame out. Is your point that having Cassadee Pope on "Think Of You" doesn't nothing to help her get more eyeballs on her career? My point was if a huge country superstar does a duet with a lesser known person, male or female, that lesser known person will benefit. Right now we are all talking about Elle King who just had a Pop music hit, so for me that makes her a Pop singer. Elle King is going to be introduced to some listeners who would never know her unless Bentley did a duet with her. It would be nice for Dierks to have someone like Maren Morris, Mickey Guyton or even Jana Kramer on this track, women who are on the Country genre. Thats all I am saying.

He also has a duet with Maren Morris on this album, so...

Also, just because you think Person A should duet with Person B doesn't mean that they'd sound good together. There are also label politics to consider.

[.indulgecountry]

Jun 2, 2016 10:57:24 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

May 31, 2016 21:48:41 GMT -5 raylatch98 said:

There is no proof that "Think Of You" has made Cassadee have more momentum, her new song "Summer" could just as easily flame out. So it's yet to be determined of how Cassadee will do. 

I understand "Summer" has done nothing yet, and could flame out. Is your point that having Cassadee Pope on "Think Of You" doesn't nothing to help her get more eyeballs on her career? My point was if a huge country superstar does a duet with a lesser known person, male or female, that lesser known person will benefit. Right now we are all talking about Elle King who just had a Pop music hit, so for me that makes her a Pop singer. Elle King is going to be introduced to some listeners who would never know her unless Bentley did a duet with her. It would be nice for Dierks to have someone like Maren Morris, Mickey Guyton or even Jana Kramer on this track, women who are on the Country genre. Thats all I am saying.

Suggesting he do a duet with Maren Morris when he literally just put out an album with exactly that proves that you're really not paying enough attention here. Also, Elle King is absolutely not a "Pop singer" at all. She doesn't sound like it vocally, nor does her music, nor does her image. The fact that she had one big crossover hit does not make her a "Pop singer" anymore than "Before He Cheats" didn't make Carrie Underwood a "Pop singer." Furthermore, it's not Dierks Bentley's obligation to pick a lesser-known female duet partner from the country music world in order to resuscitate or start her career. It's nice when artists do that, like Chris Young did by giving Cassadee Pope duet credits on his own smash hit, or when Blake Shelton did the same for Ashley Monroe's visibility last year... but that doesn't mean it's some obligation these artists have now to all keep doing this for the ladies. It's nice when they do, but it's also nice that Dierks picked someone unconventional as a duet partner in Elle King. I, for one, think this duet works wonderfully and from the first time I heard this I fell in love, and it was equally to do with that choice to have her on it. I can't imagine liking this track more if he'd picked anyone else because of how perfect the two sound together on this, imo, and her being a genre-outsider does not change that. A good duet is a good duet, regardless of where the other vocalist came from. Putting limitations around who Dierks Bentley can choose as a duet partner because there are struggling women in the country world who you think needed to piggyback off his name is very shortsighted. There's obviously an issue here, but it's not Dierks Bentley's to fix.

[trebor]

Jun 2, 2016 10:57:24 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

Right now we are all talking about Elle King who just had a Pop music hit, so for me that makes her a Pop singer. Elle King is going to be introduced to some listeners who would never know her unless Bentley did a duet with her. It would be nice for Dierks to have someone like Maren Morris, Mickey Guyton or even Jana Kramer on this track, women who are on the Country genre. Thats all I am saying.

Elle King is a recognized and reputed voice in the Americana genre; she plays with and combines different genres in an outstanding manner. The offside Country audience has obviously been aware of Elle King; it's not that she appeared from nowhere with "Ex's & Oh's" (which put the core base off).
From a hipster/street credibility view she is the perfect partner to bolster Dierk's image up beyond mainstream.

If you only know her from her (un)lucky and surprise hit, you won't do her justice. A song like "Kocaine Karolina" is so stunningly Country and beautiful that it puts 90% of the current Top 60 to shame. If you can spare some time, please listen to her album "Love Stuff.

As far as the general public is concerned, I'm not really convinced that Maren Morris is (yet) more of a household name than Elle King; and Mickey Guyton is probably (and unfortunately) the least known artist.
For this specific song I feel that Dierks needed a strong counterpart; and I personally cannot see Jana Kramer in that role.

So, Elle King was a wise choice to broaden the appeal of the lead artist and bringing in a tiny hint of Alternative artistry into his project.

[straitouttanashville]

Jun 2, 2016 12:25:29 GMT -5 .indulgecountry said:

Jun 2, 2016 10:57:24 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

I understand "Summer" has done nothing yet, and could flame out. Is your point that having Cassadee Pope on "Think Of You" doesn't nothing to help her get more eyeballs on her career? My point was if a huge country superstar does a duet with a lesser known person, male or female, that lesser known person will benefit. Right now we are all talking about Elle King who just had a Pop music hit, so for me that makes her a Pop singer. Elle King is going to be introduced to some listeners who would never know her unless Bentley did a duet with her. It would be nice for Dierks to have someone like Maren Morris, Mickey Guyton or even Jana Kramer on this track, women who are on the Country genre. Thats all I am saying.

Suggesting he do a duet with Maren Morris when he literally just put out an album with exactly that proves that you're really not paying enough attention here. Also, Elle King is absolutely not a "Pop singer" at all. She doesn't sound like it vocally, nor does her music, nor does her image. The fact that she had one big crossover hit does not make her a "Pop singer" anymore than "Before He Cheats" didn't make Carrie Underwood a "Pop singer." Furthermore, it's not Dierks Bentley's obligation to pick a lesser-known female duet partner from the country music world in order to resuscitate or start her career. It's nice when artists do that, like Chris Young did by giving Cassadee Pope duet credits on his own smash hit, or when Blake Shelton did the same for Ashley Monroe's visibility last year... but that doesn't mean it's some obligation these artists have now to all keep doing this for the ladies. It's nice when they do, but it's also nice that Dierks picked someone unconventional as a duet partner in Elle King. I, for one, think this duet works wonderfully and from the first time I heard this I fell in love, and it was equally to do with that choice to have her on it. I can't imagine liking this track more if he'd picked anyone else because of how perfect the two sound together on this, imo, and her being a genre-outsider does not change that. A good duet is a good duet, regardless of where the other vocalist came from. Putting limitations around who Dierks Bentley can choose as a duet partner because there are struggling women in the country world who you think needed to piggyback off his name is very shortsighted. There's obviously an issue here, but it's not Dierks Bentley's to fix.

I wasn't suggesting Bentley do a duet with any of those female artists, I know Black has a duet with Maren Morris. I named those artists as examples of the type of female artist in the country genre I would have preferred, thats all. I also never said Bentley or any superstar artists are obligated to pick anyone, I said it would be nice if they did. Elle King is a nice artist, I just don't see her as a Country artist. I personally would have gone with a up and comming country artist, but that is just me.

[.indulgecountry]

Jun 2, 2016 14:31:05 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

Jun 2, 2016 12:25:29 GMT -5 .indulgecountry said:

Suggesting he do a duet with Maren Morris when he literally just put out an album with exactly that proves that you're really not paying enough attention here. Also, Elle King is absolutely not a "Pop singer" at all. She doesn't sound like it vocally, nor does her music, nor does her image. The fact that she had one big crossover hit does not make her a "Pop singer" anymore than "Before He Cheats" didn't make Carrie Underwood a "Pop singer." Furthermore, it's not Dierks Bentley's obligation to pick a lesser-known female duet partner from the country music world in order to resuscitate or start her career. It's nice when artists do that, like Chris Young did by giving Cassadee Pope duet credits on his own smash hit, or when Blake Shelton did the same for Ashley Monroe's visibility last year... but that doesn't mean it's some obligation these artists have now to all keep doing this for the ladies. It's nice when they do, but it's also nice that Dierks picked someone unconventional as a duet partner in Elle King. I, for one, think this duet works wonderfully and from the first time I heard this I fell in love, and it was equally to do with that choice to have her on it. I can't imagine liking this track more if he'd picked anyone else because of how perfect the two sound together on this, imo, and her being a genre-outsider does not change that. A good duet is a good duet, regardless of where the other vocalist came from. Putting limitations around who Dierks Bentley can choose as a duet partner because there are struggling women in the country world who you think needed to piggyback off his name is very shortsighted. There's obviously an issue here, but it's not Dierks Bentley's to fix.

I wasn't suggesting Bentley do a duet with any of those female artists, I know Black has a duet with Maren Morris. I named those artists as examples of the type of female artist in the country genre I would have preferred, thats all. I also never said Bentley or any superstar artists are obligated to pick anyone, I said it would be nice if they did. Elle King is a nice artist, I just don't see her as a Country artist. I personally would have gone with a up and comming country artist, but that is just me.

1) You were though. By suggesting you wished artist x, y, or z would be on a track that is a duet instead of Elle King, then that's pretty much exactly what you were insinuating, lol.
2) It didn't seem like you did, because it's a bit odd to me to hear someone suggest Maren Morris be a duet partner on this song when he literally just featured her on another song on the album. Maybe a better way of putting it would be to suggest "I'll Be the Moon" be released instead.
3) That's fine and dandy if that's your personal preference, but being bothered he didn't showcase a more mainstream country female because he picked a "Pop singer" is a bit shortsighted for a few reasons, one being that Elle King is hardly a "Pop singer." If you think the song would've been better with someone else singing it, then that's of course your prerogative, but spinning it like Dierks was doing some disservice to country women by featuring someone like Elle King seems like a stretch to me is all.

[SoMuchToSay]

WOW! I'm obsessed w/ this! This is 100x better than the Brad/Demi + Black/Gwen duets, and more on the level of Jason/Kelly's.

[straitouttanashville]

Jun 2, 2016 14:50:12 GMT -5 .indulgecountry said:

Jun 2, 2016 14:31:05 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

I wasn't suggesting Bentley do a duet with any of those female artists, I know Black has a duet with Maren Morris. I named those artists as examples of the type of female artist in the country genre I would have preferred, thats all. I also never said Bentley or any superstar artists are obligated to pick anyone, I said it would be nice if they did. Elle King is a nice artist, I just don't see her as a Country artist. I personally would have gone with a up and comming country artist, but that is just me.

1) You were though. By suggesting you wished artist x, y, or z would be on a track that is a duet instead of Elle King, then that's pretty much exactly what you were insinuating, lol.
2) It didn't seem like you did, because it's a bit odd to me to hear someone suggest Maren Morris be a duet partner on this song when he literally just featured her on another song on the album. Maybe a better way of putting it would be to suggest "I'll Be the Moon" be released instead.
3) That's fine and dandy if that's your personal preference, but being bothered he didn't showcase a more mainstream country female because he picked a "Pop singer" is a bit shortsighted for a few reasons, one being that Elle King is hardly a "Pop singer." If you think the song would've been better with someone else singing it, then that's of course your prerogative, but spinning it like Dierks was doing some disservice to country women by featuring someone like Elle King seems like a stretch to me is all.

Waste of time if you are going take someone's words out of context and then laugh at them ("LOL"). "Somewhere On A Beach" was awful and hard to listen too, and so is "Different For Girls", IMO. Dierks still should have picked someone like Maren Morris for this track. Elle King has "Pop Singer" written all over her. Have you listened to "America's Sweetheart" and "Ex's & Oh's" they sound like Pop music to me, "LOL". Both those tracks are played on the popular radio stations where I live. If Elle King is not Popular music then George Strait is not country, it's pretty simple, "LOL". It's obvious that Dierks is trying to get to the Luke Bryan, FLG level and he knows he can't make songs like "Home", "Riser" or even "I Hold On" and get to the "next level". I get it, doesn't mean I have to like it. If I was trying to broaden my fan base I probably would pick a "Pop" singer too. Elle King.... isn't Rob Schneider her dad, and wasn't Elle King in Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo? Now this is a spot for a well placed "LOL".

[dm2081]

Jun 3, 2016 11:11:57 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

Jun 2, 2016 14:50:12 GMT -5 .indulgecountry said:

1) You were though. By suggesting you wished artist x, y, or z would be on a track that is a duet instead of Elle King, then that's pretty much exactly what you were insinuating, lol.
2) It didn't seem like you did, because it's a bit odd to me to hear someone suggest Maren Morris be a duet partner on this song when he literally just featured her on another song on the album. Maybe a better way of putting it would be to suggest "I'll Be the Moon" be released instead.
3) That's fine and dandy if that's your personal preference, but being bothered he didn't showcase a more mainstream country female because he picked a "Pop singer" is a bit shortsighted for a few reasons, one being that Elle King is hardly a "Pop singer." If you think the song would've been better with someone else singing it, then that's of course your prerogative, but spinning it like Dierks was doing some disservice to country women by featuring someone like Elle King seems like a stretch to me is all.

Waste of time if you are going take someone's words out of context and then laugh at them ("LOL"). "Somewhere On A Beach" was awful and hard to listen too, and so is "Different For Girls", IMO. Dierks still should have picked someone like Maren Morris for this track. Elle King has "Pop Singer" written all over her. Have you listened to "America's Sweetheart" and "Ex's & Oh's" they sound like Pop music to me, "LOL". Both those tracks are played on the popular radio stations where I live. If Elle King is not Popular music then George Strait is not country, it's pretty simple, "LOL". It's obvious that Dierks is trying to get to the Luke Bryan, FLG level and he knows he can't make songs like "Home", "Riser" or even "I Hold On" and get to the "next level". I get it, doesn't mean I have to like it. If I was trying to broaden my fan base I probably would pick a "Pop" singer too. Elle King.... isn't Rob Schneider her dad, and wasn't Elle King in Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo? Now this is a spot for a well placed "LOL".

So according to you, because Elle King got played on Pop radio that makes her a Pop star. I guess Alabama, Carrie Underwood, Shania Twain, Lonestar, and Ronnie Milsap are all Pop stars too then. Heck Metallica are a Pop group as well according to your criteria.

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Jun 3, 2016 11:11:57 GMT -5 straitouttanashville said:

Jun 2, 2016 14:50:12 GMT -5 .indulgecountry said:

1) You were though. By suggesting you wished artist x, y, or z would be on a track that is a duet instead of Elle King, then that's pretty much exactly what you were insinuating, lol.
2) It didn't seem like you did, because it's a bit odd to me to hear someone suggest Maren Morris be a duet partner on this song when he literally just featured her on another song on the album. Maybe a better way of putting it would be to suggest "I'll Be the Moon" be released instead.
3) That's fine and dandy if that's your personal preference, but being bothered he didn't showcase a more mainstream country female because he picked a "Pop singer" is a bit shortsighted for a few reasons, one being that Elle King is hardly a "Pop singer." If you think the song would've been better with someone else singing it, then that's of course your prerogative, but spinning it like Dierks was doing some disservice to country women by featuring someone like Elle King seems like a stretch to me is all.




Waste of time if you are going take someone's words out of context and then laugh at them ("LOL"). "Somewhere On A Beach" was awful and hard to listen too, and so is "Different For Girls", IMO. Dierks still should have picked someone like Maren Morris for this track. Elle King has "Pop Singer" written all over her. Have you listened to "America's Sweetheart" and "Ex's & Oh's" they sound like Pop music to me, "LOL". Both those tracks are played on the popular radio stations where I live. If Elle King is not Popular music then George Strait is not country, it's pretty simple, "LOL". It's obvious that Dierks is trying to get to the Luke Bryan, FLG level and he knows he can't make songs like "Home", "Riser" or even "I Hold On" and get to the "next level". I get it, doesn't mean I have to like it. If I was trying to broaden my fan base I probably would pick a "Pop" singer too. Elle King.... isn't Rob Schneider her dad, and wasn't Elle King in Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo? Now this is a spot for a well placed "LOL".

It's totally okay to not like the song, her voice, or the fact that Dierks chose her as his duet partner for this. But just because she is not country does not mean that she is automatically pop! Elle has ONE SONG that crossed over into pop. At this point that may be what she is best known for in the general public, but she's not exactly Lady Gaga...

And whether she has one pop song or not, George Strait has released like 96 country singles. I know that your point was that George is so undeniably country that she must also be undeniably pop, but that example proves nothing other than the fact that you are REALLY adamant that she is a pop singer.

If you don't like this song or that fact that she is in it...cool! I'm okay with that! But literally everything else you are saying about what genre she "belongs in" is 100% subjective, and some people disagree with you. That's the way it works around here. If you want to see an excellent rationale for why Elle was chosen for this song over some country singers, and why she is not considered a pop singer, reread trebor's post just a few messages up. I know I sure learned a lot from his input, because at first I automatically assumed Elle was a purely pop singer too just based on the fact that she is not a country singer! .indulgecountry is not trying to anger you, he is just trying to figure out what you are basing your opinions on, because saying she is only a pop singer is just plain untrue.