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Post by Harx on Sept 24, 2016 9:24:00 GMT -5
...week of January 6th 1990 to be specific. www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1990-01-06I was browsing old Billboard charts and I came across this weird week when literally not a single song changed its spot on the Hot 100. This looks very, very bizarre. Maybe that's because it was the first week of the new decade? Does anybody know what might have caused this? |
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Post by Zach on Sept 24, 2016 9:48:08 GMT -5
Pretty sure that's an error. First of all, it's ridiculously improbable. Secondly, unless I'm imagining things I seem to recall that the record on the Hot 100 is the top 7 staying the same week-over-week (or was it top 9)?
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Post by MTSChart21 on Sept 24, 2016 10:03:19 GMT -5
Pretty sure that's an error. First of all, it's ridiculously improbable. Secondly, unless I'm imagining things I seem to recall that the record on the Hot 100 is the top 7 staying the same week-over-week (or was it top 9)? If I remember correctly, there was a week in 2013(?) where the entire top 11 was the same. |
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Post by Mike is BAD on Sept 24, 2016 10:15:21 GMT -5
...week of January 6th 1990 to be specific. www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1990-01-06I was browsing old Billboard charts and I came across this weird week when literally not a single song changed its spot on the Hot 100. This looks very, very bizarre. Maybe that's because it was the first week of the new decade? Does anybody know what might have caused this? I can't believe my eyes right now! Probably because of decade transition though. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Sept 24, 2016 11:41:26 GMT -5
Pretty sure that's an error. First of all, it's ridiculously improbable. Secondly, unless I'm imagining things I seem to recall that the record on the Hot 100 is the top 7 staying the same week-over-week (or was it top 9)? If I remember correctly, there was a week in 2013(?) where the entire top 11 was the same. This is true. It was the week of August 24, 2013. Link: www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2013-08-24However, the week of January 10, 2004 beat that out by having the entire Top 12 stay the same. Link: www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2004-01-10 |
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Post by Zach on Sept 24, 2016 12:08:49 GMT -5
Woah, that's awesome. And I thought that a couple months ago when the Canadian Hot 100 top 13 stayed the same over consecutive weeks that it was something the Hot 100 had never even come close to. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 13:41:44 GMT -5
Interesting
so many great songs on there! Paula Abdul, Janet Jackson, Cher, Jody Watley, Madonna, Babyface, Tina Turner, Roxette, Prince, Alannah Myles ...
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Post by Gary on Sept 24, 2016 15:32:14 GMT -5
Not an error or a glitch in the system or anything of that nature.
LOL - When the technology was not yet in place for them to automatically complie charts while they took time off for Christmas, they froze all charts as a matter of practice.
So this happened every single year.
Now, of course, no longer the case
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Sept 24, 2016 15:57:20 GMT -5
Not an error or a glitch in the system or anything of that nature. LOL - When the technology was not yet in place for them to automatically complie charts while they took time off for Christmas, they froze all charts as a matter of practice. So this happened every single year. Now, of course, no longer the case Yup. Just as I suspected. I do want to correct you on the "every single year" thing. The practice only started with the January 1, 1977 chart and lasted until the December 28, 1991 chart. From 1958 to 1976 in addition to the chart week that happened in Christmas 1985, this wasn't practiced. |
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Post by Gary on Sept 24, 2016 16:12:37 GMT -5
Well everything has a beginning. Anyway, the point was that 1990 chart was not some random error. It was done on purpose as per practice at the time
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Post by missgenericnickname on Sept 25, 2016 1:55:18 GMT -5
I think it was April 2014 when they had the top 7 stay the same for 4-5 weeks
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Post by Libra on Sept 25, 2016 2:13:44 GMT -5
Anyway, the point was that 1990 chart was not some random error. that week IS a random error, though...for whatever reason, that week gets cited as the week that Billboard took off for the frozen week, when in reality that designation should be attributed to December 30, 1989. They're not the only place that have this wrong; Ultimate Music Database has it wrong too, and it wouldn't surprise me if whichever monkey was working on the chart database for Billboard's own site used UMD as their working reference. Nevermind that UMD has multiple other errors in their chart database (look through late 1984 sometime!) and has this disclaimer posted: "In spite of great effort, the author is not capable to ensure the absolute data integrity."  |
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 25, 2016 2:19:04 GMT -5
Billboard never makes errors ever they are perfect and completely error free they're never glitchy or incorrect there are no errors ever made in Billboard history.
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Sept 25, 2016 6:08:57 GMT -5
If you follow the next week, the movement also showed exactly from that week, seemingly no errors. Maybe they stopped tracking for some reasons? Or this is the start where Billboard always name the chart to two weeks later instead one week?
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Sept 25, 2016 6:30:11 GMT -5
I do have a question: Considering Billboard's practice of freezing the chart on a Christmas week back in the day, does that mean Billboard count the last two weeks for any chart week following the Christmas ones or do they only count one week like any other chart week? If you follow the next week, the movement also showed exactly from that week, seemingly no errors. Maybe they stopped tracking for some reasons? Or this is the start where Billboard always name the chart to two weeks later instead one week? Read Gary's post in this thread for an explanation. Also, read Libra's post. |
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Post by Zach on Sept 25, 2016 13:55:39 GMT -5
I do have a question: Considering Billboard's practice of freezing the chart on a Christmas week back in the day, does that mean Billboard count the last two weeks for any chart week following the Christmas ones or do they only count one week like any other chart week? Well this post says Another Day in Paradise got 4 weeks at #1, so I take it they count them as individual chart weeks despite the freeze. You know it's funny, because I remember seeing some time ago that the music chart from some country (don't remember which one) used to also freeze for the holidays, but it wasn't for one week! The charts of that country back in that time took like an entire month off, probably from mid-December to mid-January. I always wondered how annoying that fact must be for statistic purposes. |
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Post by Soulsista on Sept 25, 2016 14:19:18 GMT -5
Not an error or a glitch in the system or anything of that nature. LOL - When the technology was not yet in place for them to automatically complie charts while they took time off for Christmas, they froze all charts as a matter of practice. So this happened every single year. Now, of course, no longer the case Yup. Just as I suspected. I do want to correct you on the "every single year" thing. The practice only started with the January 1, 1977 chart and lasted until the December 28, 1991 chart. From 1958 to 1976 in addition to the chart week that happened in Christmas 1985, this wasn't practiced. Actually it was in place in 1985. The frozen week was January 4, 1986 (which was the same as the December 28, 1985 chart). |
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Post by Libra on Sept 25, 2016 14:27:59 GMT -5
Yup. Just as I suspected. I do want to correct you on the "every single year" thing. The practice only started with the January 1, 1977 chart and lasted until the December 28, 1991 chart. From 1958 to 1976 in addition to the chart week that happened in Christmas 1985, this wasn't practiced. Actually it was in place in 1985. The frozen week was January 4, 1986 (which was the same as the December 28, 1985 chart). It's funny that 1985 is the only year cited  - 1980 was the same way. (Frozen weeks were 12/29/79 and 1/3/81; 1980 also had a chart every single week of the calendar year.) |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Sept 25, 2016 14:47:32 GMT -5
Yup. Just as I suspected. I do want to correct you on the "every single year" thing. The practice only started with the January 1, 1977 chart and lasted until the December 28, 1991 chart. From 1958 to 1976 in addition to the chart week that happened in Christmas 1985, this wasn't practiced. Actually it was in place in 1985. The frozen week was January 4, 1986 (which was the same as the December 28, 1985 chart). Really? Let me check... www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1986-01-04Uh, there is movement here, unless this is yet another error on Billboard's part and the actual chart did have all the songs stay the same. Oh, and while we're on the subject of errors, this chart has T.I. as the profile picture for Arcadia. I would be surprised by this were it not by the fact that I've already seen this same error happened to other artists like Drake (whose picture is The Game) and Ariana Grande (whose picture is Jessie J) in the older charts. Actually it was in place in 1985. The frozen week was January 4, 1986 (which was the same as the December 28, 1985 chart). It's funny that 1985 is the only year cited - 1980 was the same way. (Frozen weeks were 12/29/79 and 1/3/81; 1980 also had a chart every single week of the calendar year.) Maybe it would've been better if I had said "around New Years' Day", because that's why I excluded years that had a chart every single week of the calendar year. I was only talking about the period of late December to early January where the charts were not frozen. |
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Post by Libra on Sept 25, 2016 15:04:44 GMT -5
Actually it was in place in 1985. The frozen week was January 4, 1986 (which was the same as the December 28, 1985 chart). Really. Let me check... www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1986-01-04Uh, there is movement here, unless this is yet another error on Billboard's part and the actual chart did have all the songs stay the same.This. The posted chart there was literally made up by the current Billboard staff for whatever reason. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Sept 25, 2016 15:32:22 GMT -5
This. The posted chart there was literally made up by the current Billboard staff for whatever reason. Really?! Wow. I know you made a lot of errors, Billboard, but this screw-up is on a different level if you ask me. |
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Oct 19, 2016 17:32:44 GMT -5
This. The posted chart there was literally made up by the current Billboard staff for whatever reason. Really?! Wow. I know you made a lot of errors, Billboard, but this screw-up is on a different level if you ask me. Where can we get the correct information for this week? Or is there NO correct information for this week...? I'm still confused. |
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Post by Gary on Oct 19, 2016 17:48:33 GMT -5
Really?! Wow. I know you made a lot of errors, Billboard, but this screw-up is on a different level if you ask me. Where can we get the correct information for this week? Or is there NO correct information for this week...? I'm still confused. If you look at the actual issue. This one is supposed to be the same as 12-27-86 |
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Oct 19, 2016 19:15:15 GMT -5
If you look at the actual issue. This one is supposed to be the same as 12-27-86 Haha. That's pretty ridiculous. I guess it makes some sense back when Billboard was nothing but a magazine. At least it's not a matter of life or death or anything. |
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Post by aerodynamite on Oct 19, 2016 20:37:27 GMT -5
I love how even the gain markers are still there when everything is literally the exact same.
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- 1980 was the same way. (Frozen weeks were 12/29/79 and 1/3/81; 1980 also had a chart every single week of the calendar year.)
