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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 20, 2016 23:07:51 GMT -5
Did they not air Tour of the Year? Nope. No one was there to accept it.
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Post by surfy on Nov 20, 2016 23:17:55 GMT -5
Ariana Grande, Green Day, Selena Gomez, Shawn Mendes, Gaga, and Drake >>>
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Nov 20, 2016 23:54:23 GMT -5
lol, the donut licker won artist of the year @ the american music awards.
just came in here to echo that 5th harmony is soooo bad.
Lady Gaga did amazing.
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Nov 21, 2016 0:54:19 GMT -5
Here Are All the 2016 AMAs Performances Ranked From Worst to Best It was an action-packed, expletive-filled night at the American Music Awards, from Twenty One Pilots' high-flying pyrotechnics to Justin Bieber leading an international "Let Me Love You" singalong -- and that's not even counting Drake singing along to Taylor Swift (and dressing like Pitbull). Here, we're focusing solely on the performances, so here are all 16 of the night's memorable live productions, ranked from worst to best.
16. James Bay, "Let It Go"
Performing a song that now feels older than the AMAs themselves, James Bay competently mewed through a low-key performance that definitely straddled the line between intimate and disappearing.
15. DJ Khaled feat. August Alsina, Future, Rick Ross and Nicki Minaj
Not even Minaj's hail-mary appearance at the end of this one could mount a comeback for this overall loss of a performance, with August Alsina and Future almost entirely drowned out by their backing track, and DJ Khaled not sure what to do with himself but scream "Another one!" into his co-stars' mics, and erroneously declare his single the "No. 1 Billboard record in the country right now."
14. Maroon 5 feat. Kendrick Lamar, "Don't Wanna Know"
Much-hyped as the closing collaboration between Maroon 5 and Kendrick Lamar was, AMAs viewers had to face reality a little bit during this performance and wonder if these two artists made even less sense together than K Dot did with Imagine Dragons at the Grammys a couple years back. Plus -- not even gonna wear the not-Pokemon suits from the music video? C'mon, dudes, give us something to work with.
13. Niall Horan, "This Town"
Not exactly the kind of fist-pumper that tends to really translate at awards shows, Niall Horan still offered a solid rendition of his very nice debut single, appropriately clad in Mumford vest and facial scruff. Still, we're hoping when Harry makes his inevitable solo turn on the AMAs stage, we have a little more to remark upon than how nice the set's rugs are.
12. John Legend, "Love Me Now"
It wouldn't be a John Legend awards-show performance without a lot of love-around-the-world photos behind it, and this one had a more intricate spread than Robin Williams' stalk-wall in One Hour Photo. Hard to be too cynical about Legend's eternal optimism in a time when so many people desperately need it, but gotta hope he's got bigger gut-punches to come on his new album than the relatively underwhelming mid-tempo of "Love Me Now."
11. Justin Bieber, "Let Me Love You"
Says all you need to know about Justin Bieber's 2016 that he can perform a top-five smash headlined by a superstar producer, and you can be disappointed that he didn't play his other top-five smash headlined by a superstar producer. Still, Bieber brought the cockiness to make DJ Snake's "Let Me Love You" sound like more of a cultural moment than it actually was, and the Internet is really sleeping at the wheel if all the girls crying behind their cell phones don't become a meme overnight.
10. Bruno Mars, "24K Magic"
Lower-energy than Bruno Mars' performance of the same at the EMAs, with his backing group's '90s boy band strut replaced with a more stationary Boyz II Men poise -- though perhaps they were just conserving energy for the performance's mid-song breakdown, where Bruno & Co. unleashed a series of coordinated pops and locks to the tune of Funkadelic's "(Not Just) Knee Deep." Reaction shots of Sting in the audience suggest he may have wished they'd just played "Locked Out of Heaven" instead.
9. Green Day, "Bang Bang"
"No KKK / No fascist USA / No Trump!!" Maybe not the most radical act of protest in award-show history, but if Green Day didn't even do that much in their first post-Election national performance, punk would really be in trouble.
8. The Weeknd, "Starboy"
Playing live from Superman's ice-crystal Fortress of Solitude, Abel Tesfaye didn't offer a lot in terms of pageantry -- the camera span around him queasily, as if to cover up the performance's general stasis -- but it was a strong rendition of a very good single, and was easily one of the night's best-sounding performances. Maybe next time just play one of his action-packed videos in the background, too.
7. Shawn Mendes, "Treat You Better" / "Mercy"
Kudos to Shawn Mendes for reaching the level of popularity where he gets to play two songs and doesn't even have to cut the first one short. Playing "Treat You Better" and "Mercy" back-to-back doesn't necessarily make a great argument for the diversity of Mendes' hits thusfar, but the singer-songwriter forever earns goodwill simply by trying harder, switching from guitar to piano and investing enough in his performances to captivate more than the faux-laser shows on the screens behind him.
6. Sting, "Can't Stop Thinking About You" / "Mesage in a Bottle" / "Every Breath You Take"
Sporting an extremely short-sleeved T-shirt, Award of Merit recipient Sting blasted through a three-song medley with as much buoyancy as any performer not yet alive for the release of The Police's Synchronicity -- pretty much all of 'em but Green Day, Maroon 5, John Legend and DJ Khaled. To Sting's credit, new single "Can't Stop Thinking About You" blended seamlessly with the established Police classics, and true to form, he probably could've gone for hours longer without his (or the crowd's) energy lagging.
5. The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey, "Closer"
A little less chemistry between Halsey and Drew Taggart than at the VMAs, but a lot less awkwardness and pitchiness in the general performance as well. Shoutout to Travis Barker attempting to punch through his drumset while fireworks shot off in the background, and to Other Chainsmoker Alex Pall in a flat-brim hat, dutifully plinking the chorus hook on his keyboard.
4. Fifth Harmony, "That's My Girl"
A little unexpected that Fifth Harmony decided a post-apocalyptic landscape was the best set-design idea for a female-empowerment anthem, but perhaps it was just their sly protest / subtweet of the entire country, given recent events. In any event, 5H didn't appear to let the end of the world get them down, delivering a stomping, strobe-lit performance of their latest 7/27 single that was nearly as on-fire as the stage was behind them.
3. Lady Gaga, "Million Reasons"
Playing in a set like an open field -- where she always imagined her latest album Joanne would play best -- Lady Gaga delivered a resounding, mostly solo (with six-string!) performance of power ballad "Million Reasons," stretching out the climactic high note nearly as long as than the end of her National Anthem rendition at the Super Bowl. Her guitar face could use a little practice, but that's what the eventual world tour is for, no doubt.
2. Twenty One Pilots, "Heathens"
Toggling back and forth between their Suicide Squad smash "Heathens" and original breakout hit "Stressed Out," Twenty One Pilots' AMAs performance takes a little while to find its groove, but explodes into hyperdrive by performance's cimax, with a masked Tyler Joseph leaping off his piano as explosions shoot off him -- as close to Motley Crue as you're likely to get at a 2016 awards show. It may not have quite captured the entirety of the group's live spectacle, but for people who watched their surprisingly inert SNL performance and wondered what the big deal was, they probably get it a little better tonight.
1. Ariana Grande feat. Nicki Minaj, "Side to Side"
Ariana Grande transports her latest smash from the gym to the... tropics? Jungle? Rainforest-themed restaurant? In any event, it was a performance even sweatier than her workout at the VMAs, with dancers grinding and writhing in the faux-sand, and Nicki Minaj lazing on her wicker throne, flaunting her gender in a way that would make Pussy Riot proud. Pretty much saves the accompanying song from commercial-overplay hell.
www.billboard.com/articles/events/amas/7581528/amas-2016-performances-ranked
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 21, 2016 1:47:00 GMT -5
This show was so, so weak.
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 21, 2016 2:20:32 GMT -5
Full list from Billboard:
ARTIST OF THE YEAR Adele Beyoncé Justin Bieber Drake Selena Gomez Ariana Grande -- WINNER Rihanna Twenty One Pilots Carrie Underwood The Weeknd
NEW ARTIST OF THE YEAR UN-LEASHED BY T-MOBILE Alessia Cara The Chainsmokers DNCE Shawn Mendes ZAYN -- WINNER
TOUR OF THE YEAR Beyoncé -- WINNER Madonna Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band
VIDEO OF THE YEAR Justin Bieber “Sorry” -- WINNER Desiigner “Panda” Rihanna Featuring Drake “Work”
FAVORITE MALE ARTIST – POP/ROCK Justin Bieber -- WINNER Drake The Weeknd
FAVORITE FEMALE ARTIST – POP/ROCK Adele Selena Gomez -- WINNER Rihanna
FAVORITE DUO OR GROUP – POP/ROCK The Chainsmokers DNCE Twenty One Pilots -- WINNER
FAVORITE ALBUM – POP/ROCK Adele, 25 Justin Bieber, Purpose -- WINNER Drake, Views
FAVORITE SONG- POP/ROCK Adele, “Hello” Justin Bieber, “Love Yourself” -- WINNER Drake Featuring Wizkid & Kyla, “One Dance”
FAVORITE MALE ARTIST – COUNTRY Luke Bryan Thomas Rhett Blake Shelton -- WINNER
FAVORITE FEMALE ARTIST – COUNTRY Kelsea Ballerini Cam Carrie Underwood -- WINNER
FAVORITE DUO or GROUP – COUNTRY Florida Georgia Line -- WINNER Old Dominion Zac Brown Band
FAVORITE ALBUM - COUNTRY Luke Bryan, Kill the Lights Chris Stapleton, Traveller Carrie Underwood, Storyteller -- WINNER
FAVORITE SONG - COUNTRY Florida Georgia Line, “H.O.L.Y.” Tim McGraw, “Humble And Kind” -- WINNER Thomas Rhett, “Die A Happy Man”
FAVORITE ARTIST – RAP/HIP-HOP Drake -- WINNER Fetty Wap Future
FAVORITE ALBUM – RAP/HIP-HOP Drake, Views -- WINNER Drake & Future, What A Time To Be Alive Fetty Wap, Fetty Wap
FAVORITE SONG – RAP/HIP-HOP Desiigner, “Panda” Drake, “Hotline Bling” -- WINNER Fetty Wap, “679”
FAVORITE MALE ARTIST – SOUL/R&B Chris Brown -- WINNER Bryson Tiller The Weeknd
FAVORITE FEMALE ARTIST – SOUL/R&B Beyoncé Janet Jackson Rihanna -- WINNER
FAVORITE ALBUM – SOUL/R&B Beyoncé, Lemonade Rihanna, Anti -- WINNER Bryson Tiller, T R A P S O U L
FAVORITE SONG – SOUL/R&B Drake Featuring Wizkid & Kyla, “One Dance” Rihanna Featuring Drake, “Work” -- WINNER Bryson Tiller, “Don’t”
FAVORITE ARTIST - ALTERNATIVE ROCK Coldplay Twenty One Pilots -- WINNER X Ambassadors
FAVORITE ARTIST - ADULT CONTEMPORARY Adele -- WINNER Rachel Platten Meghan Trainor
FAVORITE ARTIST - LATIN J Balvin Enrique Iglesias -- WINNER Nicky Jam
FAVORITE ARTIST - CONTEMPORARY INSPIRATIONAL Lauren Daigle Hillsong UNITED -- WINNER Chris Tomlin
FAVORITE ARTIST - ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC (EDM) The Chainsmokers -- WINNER Calvin Harris Major Lazer
TOP SOUNDTRACK Purple Rain -- WINNER Star Wars: The Force Awakens Suicide Squad: The Album
Side-eyeing Breezy getting best R&B Male over Bryson, but he does have an insanely dedicated core fanbase.
The show was horrifically weak overall. Granted, if you're searching for prestige at the AMAs, you have multiple issues, but they've definitely had their share of great performances over the years, which essentially all fell through this year. The biggest L for them was probably hyping up the M5+KL performance to...that, moreso when you consider that if you took that performance without the repeated reminders and hype attempts beforehand, and stuck it somewhere in the middle with them in the video costumes, it might have actually been one of the top 5 performances given what the majority came with.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Nov 21, 2016 2:43:37 GMT -5
Does anyone have any more insight on how the AMAs actually work? it doesn't seem to make any sense that Ariana Grande won Artist of the Year when she wasn't even nominated for Best Female POP/ROCK (or R&B if you really insist). The other AOTY nominees: Rihanna, Adele & Selena were all nominated in POP/ROCK , Beyonce in Female R&B and Carrie was nominated in Female Country...
the same goes for the males and groups as they were all nominated in their respective categories as well.
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Post by ilikemusic on Nov 21, 2016 2:51:04 GMT -5
Is this show fan voted or is it "fan voted" but the producers really pick who wins..... like, Ariana Grande has had a decent year but really? Artist of the year? Even Bieber was bigger than her.... and Selena Gomez being the Female artist of the year? She's been absent for like 75% of it.... I'm pretty sure Rihanna, Beyoncé, and Adele were a lot more musically successful females but if the point of these shows is to boost the newer artists than I guess I sort of understand it.... anyway, the performances were pretty lackluster. Award shows are just a dying breed in general so I wasn't really expecting much.
I'm kind of surprised Shawn Mendes didn't get Best New Artist. He's been spammed everywhere the entire year lol
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Post by divasummer on Nov 21, 2016 9:10:29 GMT -5
If they do fan voted award shows they should just do it that every mobile device gets 1 vote. Selena Gomez was bigger this year than Adele and Rihanna???? Ariana was artist of the year???? lol
Anyways the performances were all ok with some good ones sprinkled in. I liked Ariana, 5th Harmony, GaGa, Bruno, and The Weekend. I didn't mind Niall and James Bay either. Both of those songs are kind of boring but came across better live than on the radio.
However who let Dj Khaled and crew on stage. I try to stick up for rap/hip hop music and stuff at times but that was Awful. I'm assuming this is the current num.1 on the hip hop/Rnb chart since he let us know through out the performance.
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Post by surfy on Nov 21, 2016 9:18:34 GMT -5
While producer manipulation most likely is to blame, other possibilities could be split voting, dedicated fan bases, and primetime presence.
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Post by surfy on Nov 21, 2016 9:27:30 GMT -5
While producer manipulation most likely is to blame, other possibilities could be split voting, dedicated fan bases, and primetime presence. Or whoever shows up. ;) That's what I meant by "primetime presence"
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Post by vann on Nov 21, 2016 10:13:10 GMT -5
I havent watched the AMA for awhile but I thought yesterday was so boring that I stopped watching before it ended.I liked Shawn´s performance although at EMA I liked it better,Sting and Green Day were great although I still can´t find a place for Rock on these awards anymore but it was good to watch them there.
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Post by kanimal on Nov 21, 2016 12:07:19 GMT -5
Lowest rated AMAs ceremony of all-time.
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Post by lyhom on Nov 21, 2016 12:12:26 GMT -5
lmao
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 21, 2016 12:43:10 GMT -5
Lowest rated AMAs ceremony of all-time. Deserving.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 21, 2016 13:23:02 GMT -5
There are so many reasons as to why they plummeted so hard this year. They need to stop falling back on having "social media stars"/"Vine stars"/any of these incredibly bland and minimally-talented white twinks from YouTube as their primary presence on the red carpet and all over their media. Literally nobody cares about them, and most people haven't heard of 'em, either, providing absolutely no incentive for anyone to watch. Also, they have such an embarrassingly circular presenters list each year. Heidi Klum. Julianne Hough. Olivia Munn. And why the hell are Jenny McCarthy and Donnie Wahlberg there every year?
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 21, 2016 13:40:59 GMT -5
Yea that demographic doesn't watch tv in general
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Nov 21, 2016 16:24:34 GMT -5
I thought this year's AMAs were a complete and total clusterfuck. It's getting ridiculous. You know it's bad when the commercial showing some of the clips of music videos and stuff was more exciting and thrilling than the awards telecast (it led to me discovering Brandy Clark and Greg Holden's current singles, which I can't get enough of as those were shown in there). The hosting was beyond horrible. I had liked Jay Pharaoh on SNL but it starts to grate on one's nerves that he keeps doing both his Jay-Z and Kanye impressions at the drop of a hat. Gigi was pretty but that's it. She has the charisma and stage presence of a couch. And they barely hand out any awards. It's called the American Music Awards, not amateur audition hour on public access TV with a couple of trophies made at Fed Ex Kinkos handed out in between. Most of the performances, if you can even call them that were horrid. Who are Twenty One Pilots and why should we care about them? Same with the Chainsmokers? No one watches the AMAs or other programs similar to that because of these random faceless, disposable acts. Sting, Ariana & Nicki, Lady Gaga, and Green Day's performances were the only ones I liked. Sting delivered an outstanding performance. He has been in the game for nearly 4 decades and he still exudes the same stage presence he did when he started out and shows no signs of slowing down. Ariana and Nicki brought the fun and sexy with their performance. Lady Gaga's was heartfelt and lovely. Green Day's politically charged performance was awesome. Maroon 5 and Kendrick Lamar's closing performance was so bad. It illustrates white privilege at its worst. Maroon 5 makes mediocre music that the public eats up with a silver spoon no matter how awful the song is. Adam Levine looked bored out of his mind. He could have been singing out of the yellow pages and he would have been more invested. It's really sad. Fifth Harmony's performance was a hot mess. The only time it was exciting was when that one member accidentally exposed herself for a split second. Yea that demographic doesn't watch tv in general Why watch it/DVR it when you can see it on Twitter with commentary and gifs.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Nov 21, 2016 18:21:18 GMT -5
Award shows like the AMA's make me question everything. Have I become my parents? Like how they didn't "get" the younger artists that I was listening to back in the 90's. Were awards shows always sh*tty and just looking at them through a lens of nostalgia makes me think they should still be good? I dunno, but last night was abysmal. These younger acts are NOTHING. Amateur hour. The actual award winners were a straight-up joke and were clearly selected based on who showed up.
Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars gave competent, enjoyable performances. Sting, John Legend and Green Day were solid. All the others were uninspired and brought no real performance chops to the table.
We need to do better.
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Post by Zach on Nov 21, 2016 20:03:32 GMT -5
My opinion on the AMAs after watching for the first time just now:
Every single performer was terrible and has very little talent except Bruno, SOME of the 5H girls, John Legend, Lady Gaga, Green Day and Sting. Ariana and 21P can pass, they're more talented than their performances showed. Kendrick is also extremely talented obviously but that performance sucked. James Bay and Niall Horan were extremely disappointing, IDK what happened there. The Chainsmokers, Halsey and Justin Bieber in particular though are completely talentless when it comes to singing. Halsey needs to stop, The Chainsmokers should keep making music from behind a computer and not a microphone, and Bieber needs to stick to lip syncing live.
As per usual with fan voted pop awards, the most talented people failed to win. IF YOU CANNOT SING AND CAN ONLY "SOUND" GOOD AFTER LOADS OF STUDIO HELP THEN LIP SYNC YOUR LIVE PERFORMANCES. Some people may not like me recommending artists mime over a track but if I like a song (and I like songs from many of the artists I've bashed above) then I want to hear the song, but NOT dreadful vocals which is what I get when they attempt to sing those songs live.
I'm sorry for that rant but this is really getting on my nerves, the lack of true musical talent in pop music today.
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Nov 21, 2016 21:40:22 GMT -5
Award shows like the AMA's make me question everything. Have I become my parents? Like how they didn't "get" the younger artists that I was listening to back in the 90's. Were awards shows always sh*tty and just looking at them through a lens of nostalgia makes me think they should still be good? I dunno, but last night was abysmal. These younger acts are NOTHING. Amateur hour. The actual award winners were a straight-up joke and were clearly selected based on who showed up. Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars gave competent, enjoyable performances. Sting, John Legend and Green Day were solid. All the others were uninspired and brought no real performance chops to the table. We need to do better. We grew up listening to artists like Annie Lennox, Boyz II Men, Celine Dion, Erykah Badu, George Michael, Gloria Estefan, Janet Jackson, Kate Bush, Kylie Minogue, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Maxwell, Michael Jackson, Paula Abdul, Prince, Sade, Sting, Taylor Dayne, Teena Marie, Vanessa Williams, and Whitney Houston who actually had talent with regards to singing, songwriting, performing, and overall artistry with the quality of their videos, shows, musical direction, messages and tackled issues in their music. There are very few out now who consistently incorporate those aspects into their work now. The few who do are unfortunately underrated and overshadowed by artists with far less substance in their work. I look back at even those artists who were one hit wonders, didn't last very long, or were novelties and even the worst of those in many cases were better than most of what is popular and successful now. I mentioned it in the YOP thread on whether there will be big superstars in the future a few months ago that one of the reasons I think that we are getting such poor quality artists is due to there being so little money to be made from music with it not having the same type of value with the returns from sales and streaming being so little. And then labels invest very little into artist development and don't really want to go out of the box too much because of the risk of them losing their money. So we end up with what we're getting. It has always been the same with various trends and styles coming into vogue and then they are done to death but it seems it's just getting worse. Occasionally they do invest in someone with actual talent who can sing, write, produced, etc., but most often, the public doesn't go for it because they are so used to being spoonfed crap that they can't deal. Actual talent is totally optional now. The awards ceremonies of the past may have lacked the production value that the ones of today have, but there were lots of well done, memorable performances and other things. There's just no substance now. And with people having more options of entertainment in the form of Amazon, Netflix, On Demand, and watching stuff later on with their DVR, they don't have to be limited to those few networks. Perhaps awards ceremonies of this nature are an antiquated thing with little relevance now. People can just watch the highlights later on or just view the tweets and GIFs of it. As per usual with fan voted pop awards, the most talented people failed to win. IF YOU CANNOT SING AND CAN ONLY "SOUND" GOOD AFTER LOADS OF STUDIO HELP THEN LIP SYNC YOUR LIVE PERFORMANCES. Some people may not like me recommending artists mime over a track but if I like a song (and I like songs from many of the artists I've bashed above) then I want to hear the song, but NOT dreadful vocals which is what I get when they attempt to sing those songs live. I'm sorry for that rant but this is really getting on my nerves, the lack of true musical talent in pop music today. It is the norm in Europe to lip sync or mime live performances despite the fact that some or most can actually sing. Deborah Cox made a comment on the singers of the present a couple of years ago. She said, "You can become a celebrity just by merely doing a sex tape or walking around naked." She said this when asked about how different it is today compared to when she started out.
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Post by BDGeek on Nov 21, 2016 22:34:21 GMT -5
Award shows like the AMA's make me question everything. Have I become my parents? Like how they didn't "get" the younger artists that I was listening to back in the 90's. Were awards shows always sh*tty and just looking at them through a lens of nostalgia makes me think they should still be good? I dunno, but last night was abysmal. These younger acts are NOTHING. Amateur hour. The actual award winners were a straight-up joke and were clearly selected based on who showed up. Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars gave competent, enjoyable performances. Sting, John Legend and Green Day were solid. All the others were uninspired and brought no real performance chops to the table. We need to do better. We grew up listening to artists like Annie Lennox, Boyz II Men, Celine Dion, Erykah Badu, George Michael, Gloria Estefan, Janet Jackson, Kate Bush, Kylie Minogue, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Maxwell, Michael Jackson, Paula Abdul, Prince, Sade, Sting, Taylor Dayne, Teena Marie, Vanessa Williams, and Whitney Houston who actually had talent with regards to singing, songwriting, performing, and overall artistry with the quality of their videos, shows, musical direction, messages and tackled issues in their music. There are very few out now who consistently incorporate those aspects into their work now. The few who do are unfortunately underrated and overshadowed by artists with far less substance in their work. I look back at even those artists who were one hit wonders, didn't last very long, or were novelties and even the worst of those in many cases were better than most of what is popular and successful now. I mentioned it in the YOP thread on whether there will be big superstars in the future a few months ago that one of the reasons I think that we are getting such poor quality artists is due to there being so little money to be made from music with it not having the same type of value with the returns from sales and streaming being so little. And then labels invest very little into artist development and don't really want to go out of the box too much because of the risk of them losing their money. So we end up with what we're getting. It has always been the same with various trends and styles coming into vogue and then they are done to death but it seems it's just getting worse. Occasionally they do invest in someone with actual talent who can sing, write, produced, etc., but most often, the public doesn't go for it because they are so used to being spoonfed crap that they can't deal. Actual talent is totally optional now. The awards ceremonies of the past may have lacked the production value that the ones of today have, but there were lots of well done, memorable performances and other things. There's just no substance now. And with people having more options of entertainment in the form of Amazon, Netflix, On Demand, and watching stuff later on with their DVR, they don't have to be limited to those few networks. Perhaps awards ceremonies of this nature are an antiquated thing with little relevance now. People can just watch the highlights later on or just view the tweets and GIFs of it. I think the second bolded point explains the public's reaction better than the first. We now have more options than ever; not only with streaming services, but with the music we consume through these services. It is easier than ever to make your music publicly available, and thus we have more music creators than ever before. With so many different artists as options, most get lost in the shuffle, talented or not. Thus, most of them make no money from their music. The few that succeed on a major level now are the ones that are commercially viable beyond music, i.e. those who can generate a social media presence that allows companies to sell more products to teens and tweens. It's not that music consumers have completely lost their taste. When 90% of the US media is controlled by six companies that control/have stock in the three major labels (Universal, Warner, and Sony) and the two major radio operators (iHeartMedia and Cumulus), you are going to have a more limited array of artists forced upon your eardrums. And God forbid they be interesting or innovative. Why invest in Rocky Road when Vanilla is a much better-selling ice cream flavor? Otherwise, I agree with the vast majority of what you've said. I'd love to see a thread about this in the Your Opinion Please forum. Definitely a discussion that needs to be had.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 21, 2016 23:32:58 GMT -5
I'm interested to know who is behind the organization of the AMAs as a whole. Like, who runs the show, who writes the script and hires the hosts, who seeks out the performers & presenters, etc. Right off the bat, had they gotten two decent, legitimately funny, compatible, and timely hosts who did more than just read a punchline like it was a middle school powerpoint presentation, there could've at least been a few more bright spots in the ceremony.
If awards shows legitimately evolved and tried to maybe partner with services of the new millennium -- in other words, maybe make shows available for live streaming on services like Netflix or Amazon or some s**t to appeal to a broader base, as so many people have legitimately ditched cable altogether in exchange for streaming services -- then maybe they'd have a fighting chance at attracting a stronger base of viewers. All of this could be said for the VMAs and the Billboard Music Awards, too, with the VMAs' stupid insistence on revealing performers and presenters, quite literally, 7 days before the show as a way of "building last-minute hype and buzz!!!" and the Billboard Music Awards' lack of transparency with the awards, since they're literally handed out based on the tracking of statistics that anyone with a couple free hours and an internet connection could figure out ahead of time.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Nov 22, 2016 1:45:22 GMT -5
There are so many reasons as to why they plummeted so hard this year. They need to stop falling back on having "social media stars"/"Vine stars"/any of these incredibly bland and minimally-talented white twinks from YouTube as their primary presence on the red carpet and all over their media. Literally nobody cares about them, and most people haven't heard of 'em, either, providing absolutely no incentive for anyone to watch. Also, they have such an embarrassingly circular presenters list each year. Heidi Klum. Julianne Hough. Olivia Munn. And why the hell are Jenny McCarthy and Donnie Wahlberg there every year? I agree... it feels like watching Teen Choice Awards to be honest..
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 22, 2016 2:31:56 GMT -5
I'm not that familiar with AMAs as a concept but aren't the awards fan voted? It makes sense that Selena and Ariana win if they are because they have huge following on social media. If they are not then it doesn't make sense at all.
(that's why Lady Gaga's victory over Beyonce and Rihanna at the EMAs is understandable - go Little Monsters!)
I remember in the 90s at the VMAs there were several super boring rock bands taking the stage, from Black Crowes to Hootie and the Blowfish so I don't know if it's any worse to have The Chainsmokers on stage. Anyway, I always enjoy talent when I see it, whether it's Bruno Mars, Aretha Franklin or Sting.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 22, 2016 7:13:14 GMT -5
A lot of bitter comments in here. While the awards were far from their best the performances were not all that disastrous. I thought Ariana, Chainsmokers, Bruno, Lady GaGa, and The Weeknd all brought stage presence and vocals to their performances. While James Bay and Beiber was mediocre at best. John Legend added the R&B flair to the show and Sting brought the house down as all legends do. Did the audience want to see Adele kill it? Sure but the artists performed all have big hits at the moment so if you want to point the blame point it at radio and Spotify.
Carry on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 16:12:18 GMT -5
I'm surprised to say this but 5H had the best performance, easily the best one I've seen from them to date Gaga is 2nd Ari & Nicki a close 3rd, wasn't much of a fan of the jungle setup
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Post by theonlyone on Nov 24, 2016 0:27:00 GMT -5
I know this is late and random, but Fifth's Harmony's stage design sadly reminded me of the wreckage of the World Trade Center from 9/11 (this is not a joke).
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Post by maine on Nov 24, 2016 1:00:40 GMT -5
And why the hell are Jenny McCarthy and Donnie Wahlberg there every year? ABC uses Jenny McCarthy to promote New Year's Rockin' Eve since they're on the same network.
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