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Post by ilikemusic on Jun 24, 2017 16:25:52 GMT -5
This song is catchy but his vocal chords sound like they're about to give out during the chorus of the song. That "rasp" sounds unhealthy af
I guess he's established his brand as "Diet Ed Sheeran" but I wish he'd sing something with a little bit more..... personality? It's like ever since Stitches became a hit, they essentially just rewrote it over and over. Once you've heard Stitches, you've pretty much heard everything Shawn Mendes has to offer
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Jun 24, 2017 20:05:12 GMT -5
Hello, look at the cliffs and the shots of Amsterdam and Paree… Are you blind? No, i'm not blind but my concept of special seems to be a little more narrow than yours. Ooh wow… such refined standards… excuse us...
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 25, 2017 5:08:18 GMT -5
POP: 12 12 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 9606 8774 832 53.612
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 25, 2017 8:13:00 GMT -5
No, i'm not blind but my concept of special seems to be a little more narrow than yours. Ooh wow… such refined standards… excuse us... No, excuse me you. If you not agree with my opinion you are free to disagree, but if the only think that you can say about how special the video is are the fantastic views of a city that's the same of not saying nothing. I say the reasons why the video is nothing special to me, now it will be nice if you enlight me about the wonders of the video and praise the originality and the fantastic story behind it. And no, a cute couple and great views of a city don't make any video special
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 25, 2017 8:22:46 GMT -5
The video isn't anything special in terms of plots, but there is no denying the views of Paris are amazing
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Jun 25, 2017 9:48:32 GMT -5
Ooh wow… such refined standards… excuse us... No, excuse me you. If you not agree with my opinion you are free to disagree, but if the only think that you can say about how special the video is are the fantastic views of a city that's the same of not saying nothing. I say the reasons why the video is nothing special to me, now it will be nice if you enlight me about the wonders of the video and praise the originality and the fantastic story behind it. And no, a cute couple and great views of a city don't make any video special Hello, the cinematography, the colors, the scenes by the sea… There's nothing holdin' me back from telling you this video rocks and you need to open your eyes and get with the program!
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 25, 2017 13:06:08 GMT -5
No, excuse me you. If you not agree with my opinion you are free to disagree, but if the only think that you can say about how special the video is are the fantastic views of a city that's the same of not saying nothing. I say the reasons why the video is nothing special to me, now it will be nice if you enlight me about the wonders of the video and praise the originality and the fantastic story behind it. And no, a cute couple and great views of a city don't make any video special Hello, the cinematography, the colors, the scenes by the sea… There's nothing holdin' me back from telling you this video rocks and you need to open your eyes and get with the program! Oh yes, that. I can't believe that i was blind all this time. How can i think this masterpiece was the typical teen idol cliché video. Thank you very much for open my eyes
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Post by vann on Jun 25, 2017 18:51:34 GMT -5
I am surprised that this song (finally) grew on me.I wasnt a fan at first but now I like it a lot although I still prefer other songs from the album.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 26, 2017 5:02:18 GMT -5
POP: 12 12 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 9734 8817 917 54.052
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AC: 24 19 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 186 122 64 0.632
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Jun 26, 2017 21:29:20 GMT -5
Hello, the cinematography, the colors, the scenes by the sea… There's nothing holdin' me back from telling you this video rocks and you need to open your eyes and get with the program! Oh yes, that. I can't believe that i was blind all this time. How can i think this masterpiece was the typical teen idol cliché video. Thank you very much for open my eyes Yeah, well, my policy is to enjoy things for what they are, dig? I don't look at a Shawn Mendes video and start comparing it to The Godfather and Citizen Kane, thank you.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 27, 2017 5:05:17 GMT -5
POP: 12 12 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 9826 8956 870 54.984
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 27, 2017 8:09:46 GMT -5
Oh yes, that. I can't believe that i was blind all this time. How can i think this masterpiece was the typical teen idol cliché video. Thank you very much for open my eyes Yeah, well, my policy is to enjoy things for what they are, dig? I don't look at a Shawn Mendes video and start comparing it to The Godfather and Citizen Kane, thank you. I didn't compared it with the Godfather, in fact i didn't compared it with anything. What i said is that there's nothing special in the video. I didn't say it was a bad video, i said there's nothing special in it. It's the typical teen idol video frame by frame, and there are hundreds of videos with exactly the same vibe
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jun 27, 2017 8:44:43 GMT -5
#19 on Billboard Hot 100 (=)
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Post by koolthing on Jun 27, 2017 8:59:37 GMT -5
He'll regret releasinng that video after he comes out He said he isn't gay, and even if he is, so what, it's not like he is banned from having screen relationships with women, or even having real life relationships if his sexuality is anyway fluid Never been sure why people – especially gay men – think it's ok to talk about his sexuality like that, in jest or not
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 27, 2017 12:35:32 GMT -5
He said he isn't gay, and even if he is, so what, it's not like he is banned from having screen relationships with women, or even having real life relationships if his sexuality is anyway fluid Never been sure why people – especially gay men – think it's ok to talk about his sexuality like that, in jest or not When you are in the music business there will be speculation about your life. In fact a lot of people in music play with that and use their lives to promote themselves (their real relationships or totally fabricated ones just for the sake of promo). Given the fact there's nothing wrong with being gay, singers (and actors) better be prepared for rumours (generally there are only rumours if you are doing things right, otherwise people just don't care). There are ways to deal with the rumours, you can do it right (Harry Styles) or you can do it wrong (Louis Tomlison). Addressing the rumours without being questioned (like he did) is not a good idea, first because there's a risk of looking like an homophobe (fortunately for him he is very articulate), and second because only the people who wants to believe you is going to believe you (and given the fact that a lof of people who came out denied being gay for years it's understable why). Of course the worst thing you can do is show that those rumours annoy you (even if it's understable, specially if you are in a relationship, because in that case they are not saying that you are gay, they are saying that you are fake and a lier) because that automatically make the rumours more persistent (you can be famous without a good amount of haters) and there are more probabilities of having a bad reaction that will only be bad for the singer. Of course addressing gay rumours is not the same if the singer (or actor) is straight or is gay (and it's not ready to tell it). The usual strategy of managements is a beard, which is a pretty bad idea because unless both were really good actors the usual consequence is make the gay rumours more persistent If he (or any other artist) is not gay the odds say that the rumours will go away with time
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Post by koolthing on Jun 27, 2017 12:57:42 GMT -5
Never been sure why people – especially gay men – think it's ok to talk about his sexuality like that, in jest or not When you are in the music business there will be speculation about your life. In fact a lot of people in music play with that and use their lives to promote themselves (their real relationships or totally fabricated ones just for the sake of promo). Given the fact there's nothing wrong with being gay, singers (and actors) better be prepared for rumours (generally there are only rumours if you are doing things right, otherwise people just don't care). There are ways to deal with the rumours, you can do it right (Harry Styles) or you can do it wrong (Louis Tomlison). Addressing the rumours without being questioned (like he did) is not a good idea, first because there's a risk of looking like an homophobe (fortunately for him he is very articulate), and second because only the people who wants to believe you is going to believe you (and given the fact that a lof of people who came out denied being gay for years it's understable why). Of course the worst thing you can do is show that those rumours annoy you (even if it's understable, specially if you are in a relationship, because in that case they are not saying that you are gay, they are saying that you are fake and a lier) because that automatically make the rumours more persistent (you can be famous without a good amount of haters) and there are more probabilities of having a bad reaction that will only be bad for the singer. Of course addressing gay rumours is not the same if the singer (or actor) is straight or is gay (and it's not ready to tell it). The usual strategy of managements is a beard, which is a pretty bad idea because unless both were really good actors the usual consequence is make the gay rumours more persistent If he (or any other artist) is not gay the odds say that the rumours will go away with time I understand how rumours work, lol. I'm not talking about the press or about the way Shawn handles it, I'm talking about people making jokes about his being closeted or trying to force his coming out, especially those who know firsthand how hard and personal that process can be. Do you really think he'd address it without being questioned if that wasn't getting under his skin?
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 27, 2017 14:20:23 GMT -5
When you are in the music business there will be speculation about your life. In fact a lot of people in music play with that and use their lives to promote themselves (their real relationships or totally fabricated ones just for the sake of promo). Given the fact there's nothing wrong with being gay, singers (and actors) better be prepared for rumours (generally there are only rumours if you are doing things right, otherwise people just don't care). There are ways to deal with the rumours, you can do it right (Harry Styles) or you can do it wrong (Louis Tomlison). Addressing the rumours without being questioned (like he did) is not a good idea, first because there's a risk of looking like an homophobe (fortunately for him he is very articulate), and second because only the people who wants to believe you is going to believe you (and given the fact that a lof of people who came out denied being gay for years it's understable why). Of course the worst thing you can do is show that those rumours annoy you (even if it's understable, specially if you are in a relationship, because in that case they are not saying that you are gay, they are saying that you are fake and a lier) because that automatically make the rumours more persistent (you can be famous without a good amount of haters) and there are more probabilities of having a bad reaction that will only be bad for the singer. Of course addressing gay rumours is not the same if the singer (or actor) is straight or is gay (and it's not ready to tell it). The usual strategy of managements is a beard, which is a pretty bad idea because unless both were really good actors the usual consequence is make the gay rumours more persistent If he (or any other artist) is not gay the odds say that the rumours will go away with time I understand how rumours work, lol. I'm not talking about the press or about the way Shawn handles it, I'm talking about people making jokes about his being closeted or trying to force his coming out, especially those who know firsthand how hard and personal that process can be. Do you really think he'd address it without being questioned if that wasn't getting under his skin? I suppose he did it because he was tired of it, the problem is that a lot of people did it before probably for the exact same reason and end coming out of the closet lately. Given the fact that he is starting his career and his main audience are young girls there's no chance of him coming out (in the supposed case he was gay). If he was questioned directly in an interview i would understand addressing the subject (it's quite uncomfortable not to answer and you must be really good at changing the theme) but not on social media, because if people detect that it's uncomfortable for him it would make the things worse. As i say it's really a good thing the fact that he is articulate because there are a lot of probabilities of screwing thing up and give yourself tons of bad press. When a new artist appears gay rumours appear with him in a big percentage of the cases. And sometimes the more you want to avoid it, the more they appear. The more you denied the more they persist. I know it's pretty common to assume this type of rumours are from gay people who want the artist to be one of them, but half of the rumours are in fact from people who dislike the artist. Acting like you couldn't care less if people think you are gay (even if it's not the true of how you feel) it's the best way to dismatle the second type. Of course it's not fair, and sometimes reactions are not what one expect. Generally people in fake relationships receive a lot less backlash than people in the glass closet (that only wait the right moment to come out and are not blatantly lying). If the artist is straight the best strategy is totally ignore the rumours, if he is directly questioned be sincere without giving too much explanation (the more you keep talking about your girlfriend the more fake it sounds) and if you are smart enough you will make new fans while the rumours fade away. The fact that show business is so incredibly fake doesn't help to deal with this type of situations and now with social media is even more difficult
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 28, 2017 7:23:28 GMT -5
POP: 12 12 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 9855 9109 746 55.515
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HOT AC: 10 10 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 3979 3645 334 25.768
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Jun 28, 2017 21:32:23 GMT -5
Yeah, well, my policy is to enjoy things for what they are, dig? I don't look at a Shawn Mendes video and start comparing it to The Godfather and Citizen Kane, thank you. I didn't compared it with the Godfather, in fact i didn't compared it with anything. What i said is that there's nothing special in the video. I didn't say it was a bad video, i said there's nothing special in it. It's the typical teen idol video frame by frame, and there are hundreds of videos with exactly the same vibe Not trying to be grand but I will be in Paree later this summer and I'm feeling très inspiré by this video.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 29, 2017 5:04:10 GMT -5
POP: 12 11 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 10010 9185 825 56.649
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 30, 2017 5:06:27 GMT -5
POP: 12 11 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 10155 9298 857 58.593
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 30, 2017 5:41:18 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 1, 2017 5:17:42 GMT -5
POP: 12 11 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 10253 9449 804 60.425
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 2, 2017 5:06:52 GMT -5
WTF is that spin gain? POP:12 12 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 10261 9606 655 62.272 +8 Spins -149 Bullet +1.847 Audience HOT AC:10 9 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 4226 3764 462 27.987 +36 Spins +15 Bullet +0.474 Audience AC:19 20 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 210 170 40 0.704 +3 Spins -6 Bullet -0.002 Audience
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Post by handydandy on Jul 2, 2017 8:10:57 GMT -5
hmmmm strange all of a sudden the drop in spins though the audience gains are still healthy. #3 on Itunes with discount and newer video this should help it get to its peak on the HOT 100 in the next 2-3 weeks plus he starts the North American tour next week.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 3, 2017 8:40:31 GMT -5
POP: 12 11 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 10314 9734 580 64.002
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 3, 2017 11:43:16 GMT -5
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jul 3, 2017 21:42:26 GMT -5
With a bunch of songs falling this will definitely secure a top 10 spot next week for an official peak.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 4, 2017 6:30:55 GMT -5
POP: 12 11 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 10441 9819 622 66.287
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 5, 2017 5:08:01 GMT -5
POP: 12 11 SHAWN MENDES There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 10606 9855 751 68.993
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