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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Aug 21, 2017 0:32:37 GMT -5
"One Sweet Day," for me. Glove Slap is correct, in that the song hasn't really held up in terms of recurrent airplay, especially considering how huge it was upon release. But when first out, it was as big as it was because of the theme, sung by two of the hottest acts, commercially, of the time. I guess it depends on where you live. Where I live, I do still hear One Sweet Day being played on an Adult Contemporary station. In response to that poster, I only said "unless you're super young, I doubt it's forgettable to people in their late 20s and up, and how that person made it sound like the song was a one hit wonder that no one will remember because the person only responded with "even if people hardly remember it?" That's why I had brought up Mariah and Boyz II Men being at their peaks with certified albums because they had a string of huge hits around that time including "One Sweet Day". Maybe I shouldn't have included that in my post, but the poster didn't go more into depth with what he or she really meant by their statement. As for Glove Slap, I think he is missing the main point of my posts, so he chose to respond to me in a condescending way. I made a point that the song still does have impact outside "its numbers", as he like to put it, because it's been covered multiple times by people on vocal competition shows such as The X Factor and American Idol.
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Post by DenverGuy on Aug 22, 2017 20:34:24 GMT -5
One Sweet Day without question! It's also hard to compare at this point since Despacito is popular NOW and is currently on top. But come on....this is going to end up being a one hit wonder song. OSD may not be Mariah's BEST song, but to be fair she's had SOOOOO many big hits over her career. Anyway....Ask everyone when Despacito has had 21 years to age :)
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Post by Gary on Aug 22, 2017 21:41:50 GMT -5
One Sweet Day without question! It's also hard to compare at this point since Despacito is popular NOW and is currently on top. But come on....this is going to end up being a one hit wonder song. OSD may not be Mariah's BEST song, but to be fair she's had SOOOOO many big hits over her career. Anyway....Ask everyone when Despacito has had 21 years to age :) Guess it depends on who you ask as to what is "remembered" and so forth. sigh - again with the one hit wonder stuff Luis Fonsi - although this is his first song on the primarily English speaking Hot 100 in America, on the last published Greatest artists of all time list in 2015 was ranked as the #41 Artist al-time on Hot Latin Songs (The American chart for songs not primarily engish speaking) - 7 #1 hits (probably ranks a lot higher now) Daddy Yankee has hit the Hot 100 top 40 a few times before (Oye Mi Canto, Gasolina & Rompe) Then finally Justin Bieber who has had several trips to #1 To be a "hit" there is much more music out there than the top 40 of the Hot 100. Some of it is actually pretty good.
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Post by when the pawn... on Aug 22, 2017 22:23:22 GMT -5
The question is which song do you prefer...why would it matter if either is a one-hit wonder or one of many #1s by the lead artist? I prefer "One Sweet Day" but I think, outside of this long-lasting record, it has generally been forgotten. Mariah has at least 5 more culturally significant songs (VOL, AIWFCIY, Hero, Fantasy, ABMB, WBT). Even if "Despacito" is remembered as a one-hit-wonder, it'll be remembered. It's like saying "Macerena" is less significant because Los Del Rio had no other major Hot 100 hits.
That being said, I think OSD is great and is a great display of the 90s cheese/melisma that I grew up on <3.
Also I was as loyal a follower of American Idol as could be and the only performance I can remember of OSD was by a 10th or 11th place contestant on Season 11 and it was horrible. So even though it's a seemingly obvious pick for 90s-diva-wannabes to sing, I don't think any of the reality talent competition shows have upheld its legacy in any real way.
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Post by Zinc. on Aug 28, 2017 18:32:31 GMT -5
One Sweet Day easily
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Aug 28, 2017 19:33:28 GMT -5
None of that shit matters. Just vote for the fucking song you prefer.
One Sweet Day
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Post by Hurricane Lee on Aug 28, 2017 20:16:49 GMT -5
OSD is EASILY one of my least favorite Mariah hits (and also at the bottom of the heap of her #1s) but dammit if I rank it below the likes of Deathpacito aka Burrito Dorito. I can barely get through a full listen of that song. Reminds me of the ubiquitous copycat reggaeton songs circa mid-2000s.
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Post by Gekkouga on Aug 28, 2017 20:29:12 GMT -5
"Burrito! Dorito!"
This passive agressive bulls**t against latinos is disgusting.
That being said OSD is better, corny and all.
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Post by Mazo on Aug 28, 2017 22:34:33 GMT -5
Despacito doesn't seem like an authentic hit. It seems like one of those fly by night hits like Laffy Taffy that no one will remember 10 years from now.
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Post by Sambalada on Aug 28, 2017 22:37:45 GMT -5
Despacito doesn't seem like an authentic hit. It seems like one of those fly by night hits like Laffy Taffy that no one will remember 10 years from now. So is One Sweet Day tbh.
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Post by Mazo on Aug 29, 2017 12:58:08 GMT -5
Despacito doesn't seem like an authentic hit. It seems like one of those fly by night hits like Laffy Taffy that no one will remember 10 years from now. So is One Sweet Day tbh. How is a song about the loss of a loved one forgettable? That song is referenced every time someone loses a loved one, so it's timeless. It's also one of those unusual #1 hits, where as Despacito is generic as hell. That literally could have been anyone's song. It literally took what? 22 long ass years for someone to even match OSD's record, so how is that forgettable? The hate is real and irrational.
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Post by Choco on Aug 29, 2017 13:22:53 GMT -5
"Despacito", didn't even care for OSD that much 21 years ago, both Mariah and the Boyz have done better songs. This.
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Post by bat1990 on Aug 29, 2017 14:36:31 GMT -5
I have always thought OSD was a generic cash grab, Carey's lyrics coming from personal loss excepted.
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Post by Sambalada on Aug 29, 2017 17:25:48 GMT -5
How is a song about the loss of a loved one forgettable? That song is referenced every time someone loses a loved one. It's also one of those unusual #1 hits where as Despacito is generic as hell. They literally could have been anyone's song. It literally took what? 22 years long ass years for someone match OSD's record, so how is that forgettable? The hate is real and irrational.Β How is OSD in any way not forgettable tho? Its subject matter doesn't matter at all, it's just simply not an iconic song, in any definition. You want iconic Mariah Carey? There's always be Always Be My Baby.
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Post by Mazo on Aug 29, 2017 22:19:57 GMT -5
How is a song about the loss of a loved one forgettable? That song is referenced every time someone loses a loved one. It's also one of those unusual #1 hits where as Despacito is generic as hell. They literally could have been anyone's song. It literally took what? 22 years long ass years for someone match OSD's record, so how is that forgettable? The hate is real and irrational. How is OSD in any way not forgettable tho? Its subject matter doesn't matter at all, it's just simply not an iconic song, in any definition. You want iconic Mariah Carey? There's always be Always Be My Baby. How can a song be forgettable if it holds sentimental value in someone's heart and is always relevant because death is? The song clearly touched a lot of people 22 years ago and is still relevant today if you go to the video and read the comments. You'd literally find someone under the comments every other day giving their condolences for someone who has passed on or remarking how wonderful and memorable the song is for them. Just because you don't connect to it (now) doesn't make it not memorable. Do I listen to it every day or every other day? Of course not, but it's still a very memorable, classic song.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 30, 2017 16:32:18 GMT -5
I like both well enough for exactly what they are, but siding with the bop.
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Sept 7, 2017 17:57:05 GMT -5
How is a song about the loss of a loved one forgettable? That song is referenced every time someone loses a loved one, so it's timeless. It's also one of those unusual #1 hits, where as Despacito is generic as hell. That literally could have been anyone's song. It literally took what? 22 long ass years for someone to even match OSD's record, so how is that forgettable? The hate is real and irrational.Β This!
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Sept 7, 2017 17:59:53 GMT -5
How is OSD in any way not forgettable tho? Its subject matter doesn't matter at all, it's just simply not an iconic song, in any definition. You want iconic Mariah Carey? There's always be Always Be My Baby. How can a song be forgettable if it holds sentimental value in someone's heart and is always relevant because death is? The song clearly touched a lot of people 22 years ago and is still relevant today if you go to the video and read the comments. You'd literally find someone under the comments every other day giving their condolences for someone who has passed on or remarking how wonderful and memorable the song is for them. Just because you don't connect to it (now) doesn't make it not memorable. Do I listen to it every day or every other day? Of course not, but it's still a very memorable, classic song.Β Agreed, your post literally made my night! You're so awesome! ππ
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 7, 2017 18:23:35 GMT -5
How is OSD in any way not forgettable tho? Its subject matter doesn't matter at all, it's just simply not an iconic song, in any definition. You want iconic Mariah Carey? There's always be Always Be My Baby. How can a song be forgettable if it holds sentimental value in someone's heart and is always relevant because death is? The song clearly touched a lot of people 22 years ago and is still relevant today if you go to the video and read the comments. You'd literally find someone under the comments every other day giving their condolences for someone who has passed on or remarking how wonderful and memorable the song is for them. Just because you don't connect to it (now) doesn't make it not memorable. Do I listen to it every day or every other day? Of course not, but it's still a very memorable, classic song. Oh right, I meant to respond to this before. You're applying your own personal feelings to OSD to how everyone else should feel and that's not quite the case. Like love songs, different people find solace in different songs about death. I'm sure there are people who were touched by OSD and use it to reminisce about a passed loved one, but the same can be said for other songs. Likewise, not everyone who hears OSD is reminded of a loved one. I have had relatives pass but OSD does nothing for me. Your entire post is based purely on emotion and speculation. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying your post doesn't representative of everyone and there are still plenty of people who feel OSD is forgettable. Sorry π―π² lucy88 π―π².
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Post by Mazo on Sept 8, 2017 23:02:55 GMT -5
How can a song be forgettable if it holds sentimental value in someone's heart and is always relevant because death is? The song clearly touched a lot of people 22 years ago and is still relevant today if you go to the video and read the comments. You'd literally find someone under the comments every other day giving their condolences for someone who has passed on or remarking how wonderful and memorable the song is for them. Just because you don't connect to it (now) doesn't make it not memorable. Do I listen to it every day or every other day? Of course not, but it's still a very memorable, classic song. Oh right, I meant to respond to this before. You're applying your own personal feelings to OSD to how everyone else should feel and that's not quite the case. Like love songs, different people find solace in different songs about death. I'm sure there are people who were touched by OSD and use it to reminisce about a passed loved one, but the same can be said for other songs. Likewise, not everyone who hears OSD is reminded of a loved one. I have had relatives pass but OSD does nothing for me. Your entire post is based purely on emotion and speculation. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying your post doesn't representative of everyone and there are still plenty of people who feel OSD is forgettable. Sorry π―π² lucy88 π―π² . My post was an opinion just like yours. Nothing more or less.
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Sept 9, 2017 22:18:27 GMT -5
Oh right, I meant to respond to this before. You're applying your own personal feelings to OSD to how everyone else should feel and that's not quite the case. Like love songs, different people find solace in different songs about death. I'm sure there are people who were touched by OSD and use it to reminisce about a passed loved one, but the same can be said for other songs. Likewise, not everyone who hears OSD is reminded of a loved one. I have had relatives pass but OSD does nothing for me. Your entire post is based purely on emotion and speculation. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying your post doesn't representative of everyone and there are still plenty of people who feel OSD is forgettable. Sorry π―π² lucy88 π―π² . My post was an opinion just like yours. Nothing more or less. I agree, fancyone08. You and I were just defending our position and opinions as much as Rosie Nylund was. Nothing wrong with that. I don't see why that person has to resort to tagging my name when he or she was responding to your post only like it's a huge, personal thing. It just shows that he or she is still harboring ill feelings over what I had said in my posts, and they have also been following me in other threads. Like I said in my other posts, whether One Sweet Day is forgettable or not is all subjective, and you and I are very much entitled to our opinions as everyone else in this thread. I think that poster lost all credibility in their post when he or she argues that your posts are based on pure "emotion and speculation", when their posts quite literally follow the same approach (basing their opinions on emotion and speculation) and just seemingly dismissing their opinions as facts. Their biased opinions doesn't exactly "speak for the general population either", yet, in Rosie 'Boogie' Nylund's world, they do. It's pretty transparent that everyone's stance on this won't ever be on the same page, so I'm finding these arguments quite pointless and unwarranted. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree, and leave it at that.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Nov 18, 2017 10:25:35 GMT -5
Oh! "One Sweet Day" is a forgottennnn song!!!1111!!1
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 18, 2017 11:12:46 GMT -5
OSD has virtually no lasting impact outside numbers, and whatever spot it could hope to hold in popular culture is taken (and still held) by Bette Midler's cover for Wind Beneath My Wings :sip2: . Those songs aren't really about the same thing, so I don't understand the comparison.
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 18, 2017 11:23:06 GMT -5
OSD has virtually no lasting impact outside numbers, and whatever spot it could hope to hold in popular culture is taken (and still held) by Bette Midler's cover for Wind Beneath My Wings :sip2: . Those songs aren't really about the same thing, so I don't understand the comparison. Though not literally about the same subject, WBMW has endured as an anthem for funerals and paying tribute to the deceased. You don't need to be 100% zoomed in on a topic to get brought into it and utilized.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 18, 2017 11:33:21 GMT -5
Those songs aren't really about the same thing, so I don't understand the comparison. Though not literally about the same subject, WBMW has endured as an anthem for funerals and paying tribute to the deceased. You don't need to be 100% zoomed in on a topic to get brought into it and utilized. But to that end, there are many popular songs used in funerals and the like (including "OSD" which was performed at Princess Di's service), so I don't get why "WBMW" was singled out.
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 18, 2017 11:48:57 GMT -5
To each their own. The Midler cover has always stood out to me as the closest to being THE (though not definite) one as far as definitive funereal numbers taken from Pop music go, certainly much more than OSD, but you don't have to agree. Don't think the point about Princess Diana's funeral was worthwhile either, there's only one song from that even that stands in public consciousness.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 18, 2017 11:54:48 GMT -5
To each their own. The Midler cover has always stood out to me as the closest to being THE (though not definite) one as far as definitive funereal numbers taken from Pop music go, certainly much more than OSD, but you don't have to agree. Don't think the point about Princess Diana's funeral was worthwhile either, there's only one song from that even that stands in public consciousness. 1. I never said "OSD" was used as much or more than "WBMW." 2. The use of "OSD" at a memorial service is certainly relevant to a discussion about songs being used at funerals and the like. Whether something else is remembered more is irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 11:57:03 GMT -5
Neither of them are getting played at my funeral so...
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Post by Monarca on Dec 1, 2017 19:54:49 GMT -5
Obviously, "One Sweet Day".
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Post by soulfulwings on Dec 2, 2017 0:39:10 GMT -5
"One Sweet Day"
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