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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 22, 2017 9:37:03 GMT -5
Second single from Out Of The Dark.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Aug 23, 2017 19:07:12 GMT -5
Great choice. I love the 3 of them together. "Lose My Soul" is one of my all-time favorite Christian songs. I hope this isn't too controversial for Christian radio though. It's a message that needs to be heard though.
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Post by dgarcia3377 on Aug 31, 2017 19:18:46 GMT -5
Love this. I hope its another top 10 for her.
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Post by Anticonformity on Sept 1, 2017 2:31:38 GMT -5
Great choice. I love the 3 of them together. "Lose My Soul" is one of my all-time favorite Christian songs. I hope this isn't too controversial for Christian radio though. It's a message that needs to be heard though. Anything aside from I'm broken, but You're my hope
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I am nothing You are everything
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Post by Troublemaker on Sept 1, 2017 3:03:22 GMT -5
I'm surprised most Christian artists aren't singing about this topic
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Post by Anticonformity on Sept 1, 2017 3:33:58 GMT -5
I'm surprised most Christian artists aren't singing about this topic Sadly, it's not... Christians don't like to step out of their bubble-(bubble) |
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Post by Ragin on Sept 1, 2017 7:38:31 GMT -5
Well, for starters I love the song. Controversial? How?
I hear far more challenging exhortations than this on Christian radio. Maybe it's where I'm at that this seems basic, findamental. Living near the DC area you learn real quick that almost nothing is about left or right or black or white. Not really.
I find Matthew West's "Why don't you do something about this? I did, I sent you" to be a bigger gulp moment of reflection than anything in this song.
But I live the song and hope it does well.
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Post by Ragin on Sept 1, 2017 7:39:24 GMT -5
Haha. I hope I live it, but I meant to say Love it.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 2, 2017 12:55:44 GMT -5
With the current political climate, I could unfortunately see some stations worried to play this thinking that some listeners may think its making a political statement of sorts. I personally don't find it to be, but I could certainly see people thinking Mandisa is trying to make some statement with this.
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Post by Ragin on Sept 2, 2017 17:34:14 GMT -5
That would be a shame because the statement seems to be the opposite to me. Stop the political nonsense and realize we are all the same before God.
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Post by Anticonformity on Sept 3, 2017 2:06:56 GMT -5
That would be a shame because the statement seems to be the opposite to me. Stop the political nonsense and realize we are all the same before God. That's where Christianity/radio they disagree, whether it's Mandisa, Tobymac, etc... Deep down, to them (MOST Christians)don't believe we are all equal... ************ I wonder if we'll get a video... oh wait... |
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Post by Ragin on Sept 3, 2017 6:11:06 GMT -5
I will admit that I am relatively new to listening to Christian radio about 5 years or so, but I can't say I've ever gotten the sense you are talking about.
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Post by Anticonformity on Sept 4, 2017 0:38:08 GMT -5
I will admit that I am relatively new to listening to Christian radio about 5 years or so, but I can't say I've ever gotten the sense you are talking about. Look up "Becky" and Christian radio for starters... Back in the day, Stacie Orrico had HUGE backlash cause she crossed over, Amy Grant as well, etc... If every song of yours doesnt point to / mention God and the Christian belief system (no homosexuality, swearing, mentioning of sex in ANY way, etc...) radio/most of the industry shuns you... Nichole Nordeman recently got a lot of flack for supporting the author Jen Hatmaker... There's way too much to go into here without going way off topic... You can always PM me... |
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Post by Ragin on Sept 4, 2017 6:18:34 GMT -5
Is it over their music not saying specific things, or is it over a view of not being authentic? I know on one issue in particular if an artist comes out strongly with a view that is not held by most as biblical there will certainly be a backlash. Likewise, if they see something in their personal life that they believe screams "hypocrite", there is likely to be a backlash.
It isn't always fair, it isn't always right, and sometimes it is most decidedly not Christian, but the tough part of being a Cheistian artist is that in order to be successful people have to do more than like your song, they have to connect to it. Maybe for some that translates into "having" to say certain things or have certain words. I'd say it's more like many artists have just figured out what tends to connect with people so they use it, over and over again.
I've heard a wide variety of music types, sounds and heard a wide variety of song topics. I've heard songs that have at least been minor hits on Christian radio that you can't figure out from the song how it qualifies as Christian. It's okay, though. I know there are a lot of artists if they were bigger, or their interviews were more widely heard the backlash would have already started.
As far as I know, none of them have been this simple, but who would want to worship God by listening to a song by someone who said they didn't believe in God? It's by degrees. Tweak it a little and you get the backlash.
If it is *just* music to you, then I would agree the backlash doesn't make sense. For most of the audience it isn't just music.
I remember Amy Grant crossing over (yes, I am old). I wasn't a believer then and I had no ifdea Christian music rejected her after that. I would have been mad at the industry if I had known. But today, I'm given to understand this had much more to do with Vince Gill than wanting to try pop music. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by Anticonformity on Sept 5, 2017 0:43:30 GMT -5
Is it over their music not saying specific things, or is it over a view of not being authentic? I know on one issue in particular if an artist comes out strongly with a view that is not held by most as biblical there will certainly be a backlash. Likewise, if they see something in their personal life that they believe screams "hypocrite", there is likely to be a backlash. It isn't always fair, it isn't always right, and sometimes it is most decidedly not Christian, but the tough part of being a Cheistian artist is that in order to be successful people have to do more than like your song, they have to connect to it. Maybe for some that translates into "having" to say certain things or have certain words. I'd say it's more like many artists have just figured out what tends to connect with people so they use it, over and over again. I've heard a wide variety of music types, sounds and heard a wide variety of song topics. I've heard songs that have at least been minor hits on Christian radio that you can't figure out from the song how it qualifies as Christian. It's okay, though. I know there are a lot of artists if they were bigger, or their interviews were more widely heard the backlash would have already started. As far as I know, none of them have been this simple, but who would want to worship God by listening to a song by someone who said they didn't believe in God? It's by degrees. Tweak it a little and you get the backlash. If it is *just* music to you, then I would agree the backlash doesn't make sense. For most of the audience it isn't just music. I remember Amy Grant crossing over (yes, I am old). I wasn't a believer then and I had no ifdea Christian music rejected her after that. I would have been mad at the industry if I had known. But today, I'm given to understand this had much more to do with Vince Gill than wanting to try pop music. Maybe I'm wrong. [/quote] There's way too much to go into here without going way off topic...
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Post by Ragin on Sept 5, 2017 7:20:06 GMT -5
Fair enough. You are right it is a very complicated topic.
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Post by joey2002 on Oct 2, 2017 15:55:35 GMT -5
Top 30 after just a few weeks on Christian Airplay!
This might not be a #1 hit but I think it will keep doing well. Great song with a much needed message.
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Post by harvie on Oct 22, 2017 15:40:54 GMT -5
This song is just so good! It's a shame it won't cross over to other formats bc its a great message and its hella catchy!
Mandisa's "Overcomer" was one of the best songs of the entire decade and I thought for sure that would eventually cross over but never did....but "Bleed The Same" is so timely. They really deserve a slot to perform this on the AMAs.
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Post by Anticonformity on Oct 23, 2017 3:34:30 GMT -5
This song is just so good! It's a shame it won't cross over to other formats bc its a great message and its hella catchy! Mandisa's "Overcomer" was one of the best songs of the entire decade and I thought for sure that would eventually cross over but never did....but "Bleed The Same" is so timely. They really deserve a slot to perform this on the AMAs. To be fair Mandisa had a lot of "crossover" on GMA... |
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Post by harvie on Oct 23, 2017 19:03:20 GMT -5
What's GMA?
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 23, 2017 20:02:06 GMT -5
Good Morning America. But a few performances on a popular morning show is hardly "crossing over". |
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Post by harvie on Oct 23, 2017 20:08:41 GMT -5
I was referring to "Overcomer" crossing over to other radio formats other than Religous Formats...I'm sure you knew that though.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 23, 2017 22:20:20 GMT -5
I was referring to "Overcomer" crossing over to other radio formats other than Religous Formats...I'm sure you knew that though. Yup, I agree! I'd love to see more Christian acts with crossover potential actually crossover. Britt Nicole and For King & Country are the only ones with any sort of success over the last few years that I can think of though (unless you count Needtobreathe, Switchfoot, Skillet). Interestingly enough, NF's "Let You Down" is top 50 on CHR/Top 40 right now with a good bullet. That's looking to at least be a top 30 hit on the format, which is awesome! Unfortunately, Mandisa's looks and age would deter her from having any sort of real success on CHR or even HAC since pop cares a lot more about age and image. "Unfinished", "Overcomer", "Bleed the Same" and even "Press On" and "Stronger" would have been great for pop audiences to hear. |
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Post by Anticonformity on Oct 24, 2017 2:39:36 GMT -5
I was referring to "Overcomer" crossing over to other radio formats other than Religous Formats...I'm sure you knew that though. Yeah I did, thus the "crossover"... And good luck at artists crossing over, when CCM was at its best it could barely do it... |
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Post by harvie on Oct 24, 2017 6:23:26 GMT -5
Just was surprised Overcomer didn't did it I was THAT strong of a strong! And was very much very much in the vein of poplar females songs of that time !
So good!
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Post by CoJoFan on Oct 24, 2017 10:08:59 GMT -5
Enters the top 20 on Christian Airplay at #19.
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Post by joey2002 on Nov 8, 2017 4:17:06 GMT -5
That would be a shame because the statement seems to be the opposite to me. Stop the political nonsense and realize we are all the same before God. That's where Christianity/radio they disagree, whether it's Mandisa, Tobymac, etc... Deep down, to them (MOST Christians)don't believe we are all equal... There are some who disagree, but the majority of Christians believe that God loves us all equally. (eg- God created all of us equally in his image, and Jesus went to the cross to give his life for people from all races and backgrounds) K-Love is playing this like crazy, and giving it lots of "story behind the song" features. Hope this can keep climbing and peak somewhere neat the top of the charts. Unite. Come together. Such a desperately needed message right now. |
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Post by Anticonformity on Nov 8, 2017 4:28:06 GMT -5
That's where Christianity/radio they disagree, whether it's Mandisa, Tobymac, etc... Deep down, to them (MOST Christians)don't believe we are all equal... There are some who disagree, but the majority of Christians believe that God loves us all equally. (eg- God created all of us equally in his image, and Jesus went to the cross to give his life for people from all races and backgrounds) K-Love is playing this like crazy, and giving it lots of "story behind the song" features. Hope this can keep climbing and peak somewhere neat the top of the charts. Unite. Come together. Such a desperately needed message right now. Let me put it this way, they tolerate everyone* cause they have to, they tolerate "sin" like being gay by saying that all sin is equal... *though honestly the majority don't |
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Post by Ragin on Nov 8, 2017 12:18:09 GMT -5
To be clear, the Bible doesn't tell "them" to tolerate sin at all.
You are referring I believe to separating how sin is treated versus how people are treated. All sin is equal is just the notion that all sin carries as it's penalty, death. All sin is forgiven in the repentant heart.
So we are all the same. It is a true statement. We all stand the same before God. That we would hate or treat differently someone who thinks differently from us is the Crux of the song. It is important to recognize, that this means hating someone who is judgemental is just as wrong as hating someone who is gay etc
I hope this song helps people really think about it.
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Post by Anticonformity on Nov 9, 2017 1:13:17 GMT -5
To be clear, the Bible doesn't tell "them" to tolerate sin at all. You are referring I believe to separating how sin is treated versus how people are treated. All sin is equal is just the notion that all sin carries as it's penalty, death. All sin is forgiven in the repentant heart. So we are all the same. It is a true statement. We all stand the same before God. That we would hate or treat differently someone who thinks differently from us is the Crux of the song. It is important to recognize, that this means hating someone who is judgemental is just as wrong as hating someone who is gay etc I hope this song helps people really think about it. It all depends on what you believe... |
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