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Post by matteeeb on Oct 11, 2017 1:36:52 GMT -5
I figured nobody would guess my vote would be the person I was referring too. It was odd how he was always defending himself when he only got a few votes, it screamed scum to me and im glad you guys saw that. I will check back in in about 4 hours to see where all the votes are, I likely won't be online in the morning so consider my vote in 4 hours to be final. Looks like nobody is going to get lynched though. why do you think no one is getting lynched? We have just over 24 hours left, not 4, but that's still a pretty solid amount of time for people to change votes, especially when we only need 6 to lynch today. If you live in Canada your morning is the same as my morning, so you still have an entire day after the morning to at the very least pop in and change your vote. You haven't said anything about the Snark Knight case on D3, you've only talked about the case against gravey and revealed your normusic suspicions from D2. What do you think about Snark Knight considering the large amount of information that other posters (including myself) have brought against him? You haven't stated many of your opinions on other players so it is worrying to me that you are ready to check out for the rest of the day phase without helping out town by stating your leans and thoughts. Oh I thought it said 11:00AM EST. Misread that, yeah we defiantly should be able to reach a majority by then lol. My town leans at this point are everybody except Gravey/Az. I spoke about Gravey earlier in the day, but looking back at it honestly I just can't envision him being apart of the Mafia, I don't really know how to put it in words but I just can't imagine it, he would've cracked by now assuming he is playing mafia similar to how he plays pulse survivor (which I believe he is playing somewhat of a similar style) Az seems way to defensive this time around which is odd, also pointed out earlier was the fact that he defended Normusic then changed his vote to him when we all did, likely trying to throw the town off track. I know I said earlier that I found Albie to be the most scummy out of the four experienced players, but we all know now that Albie is 100% town which narrows it down to 3. And after looking through everything again, I believe that Az is the new target in the Mafia. Vote: Snark Knight |
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 11, 2017 2:19:50 GMT -5
Five votes, huh? We're really doing this. Okay. I'm claiming.
You know Albie? Town cop, Sheriff Lambert? He's my boss. And unless the Doc is able to do his thing this Night phase the Sheriff's department is gonna be hella empty in the morning if you lynch me. Say hello to your Town Deputy.
That plan that Codex detailed? Despite what thescuminator would have you believe, I am not opposed to it. In fact, I did exactly what I needed to do. There was nothing I could do for Kunt N2 because I already protected him N1, but with Albie being blocked it was safe for me to protect him without taking the hit myself. Too bad scum's done such a bang-up job framing me, because from what I'm reading in everyone's posts literally nobody had entertained the notion that Az = Scum was NOT the only alternative. Of course thescuminator wouldn't bring that up, why would he? He and his partner have you doing their dirty work for them.
Guess I'll be turning in my gun and badge at the end of shift unless someone starts actually listening to me; I'll be waiting to be vindicated by my role flip.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 11, 2017 3:48:09 GMT -5
Five votes, huh? We're really doing this. Okay. I'm claiming. You know Albie? Town cop, Sheriff Lambert? He's my boss. And unless the Doc is able to do his thing this Night phase the Sheriff's department is gonna be hella empty in the morning if you lynch me. Say hello to your Town Deputy. That plan that Codex detailed? Despite what thescuminator would have you believe, I am not opposed to it. In fact, I did exactly what I needed to do. There was nothing I could do for Kunt N2 because I already protected him N1, but with Albie being blocked it was safe for me to protect him without taking the hit myself. Too bad scum's done such a bang-up job framing me, because from what I'm reading in everyone's posts literally nobody had entertained the notion that Az = Scum was NOT the only alternative. Of course thescuminator wouldn't bring that up, why would he? He and his partner have you doing their dirty work for them. Guess I'll be turning in my gun and badge at the end of shift unless someone starts actually listening to me; I'll be waiting to be vindicated by my role flip. Okay, this is new. I guess from this, there are only two reasonable options: 1. Az is indeed deputy, and has tried to stop people from eliminating their town person. And 2. Az is lying, and is actually mafia pretending to be deputy. Both have pros and cons, so I'll discuss them both separately in new posts. |
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 11, 2017 3:50:29 GMT -5
2. Az is lying, and is actually mafia pretending to be deputy. Both have pros and cons, so I'll discuss them both separately in new posts. Actually, this has nothing but cons. Check the OP, scum have no safe claims. Were I scum, I would not be claiming Deputy because the actual Deputy would ensure my quick-lynch. And now that I have claimed Deputy, nobody else will claim it when I'm so close to lynch capacity, because then they would make themselves a quick-lynch target the next Day phase when my role flip exonerates me. |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 11, 2017 4:00:50 GMT -5
Option 1: Az is telling the truth
Pros: He provided a reasonable explanation for not saving Kunt if he was deputy, and saving himself on Night 2 is also very believable. It also would explain some of his defensive nature, as he didn't want town to eliminate their deputy. It would make sense to reveal now, so that town could avoid that elimation.
Cons: Am I wrong, or does this mean mafia will target him tonight? If so, is he suggesting that doctor should save him instead of Albie? Or he's willing to take the risk, for the town? I understand it could be worrying with the vote count, but if you're telling the truth you probably have an understanding of what will happen tonight. And unlike Albie, there isn't much punishment if you are lying. No one would be able to say if you were, aside from albie. And in this situation, Albie is getting stuck in an awkward place on who to search. And if he was lying, I'm not sure if the actual deputy would come out (and if it's someone like Backwoods, who hasn't been on in a long time, he wouldn't need to worry).
These are all obviously speculations, but we have limited time and I reaaaally don't want a mislynch. Part 2 coming soon!
BTW, my vote is changed to gravey for now, to avoid a lynch just yet.
VOTE: GRAVEY
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 11, 2017 4:02:40 GMT -5
2. Az is lying, and is actually mafia pretending to be deputy. Both have pros and cons, so I'll discuss them both separately in new posts. Actually, this has nothing but cons. Check the OP, scum have no safe claims. Were I scum, I would not be claiming Deputy because the actual Deputy would ensure my quick-lynch. And now that I have claimed Deputy, nobody else will claim it when I'm so close to lynch capacity, because then they would make themselves a quick-lynch target the next Day phase when my role flip exonerates me. Oh... God i'm stupid. And this whole thing will seem like I'm a scum trying to eliminate a town player isn't it? *Sigh* |
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 11, 2017 4:03:03 GMT -5
No, Mafia would still most likely try to kill Albie this Night phase. They can't block him N3, and if they go elsewhere for the NK they leave themselves vulnerable to Albie clocking another one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 5:03:53 GMT -5
Alright so if az is legit telling the truth.. Then he is cleared and I feel like it's codex as the other maf but there is not enough votes for him and now the bandwagon will form on me.. I woke up in middle of night to see this so very tired obviously. I'll see how this will be in 4 hours when I officially wake up.
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Oct 11, 2017 5:29:36 GMT -5
So with Snark Knight claiming his role my second most suspicious person turned out to be town.
What could he potentialy gain with claiming the role that is not really his? Right now he is in bad position which make it more likely for him to claime a role since he is almosy lost either claiming role or not doing anything. So with him claiming a role of deputy a real deputy would have to tell that he is realy a deputy and mafia will know who the real deputy is. With considering other factors I think that if someone counterclaim the role of deputy the town will choosr him over and Snark Knight would be lynched.
But as long as nobody else claim the role of deputy I think that Snark Knight is really a town.
I will also try to analyse Snark Knight behaviour from another point of view (like he is town) - who wanted him to get lynched and stuff but I'm having very bussy week in university so I don't know if I'll be able to do that before D3 ends. So If anyone have some extra time I think this would be very helpful analysis.
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Post by Web on Oct 11, 2017 9:00:12 GMT -5
I knew a claim was coming, from two posts Snark Knight made after I voted for him then later called out his inactivity. The point that made me suspicious of him in these posts was why he was breadcrumbing towards him being a power role in multiple posts with only TWO VOTES right after I called him out for breadcrumbing towards other players being power roles and he admitted breadcrumbing was a poor idea. I wasn't going to point it out because I thought it might be a scum trap since the hint was vague enough where he could respond with "look who is hunting for power roles now" so I held off, but now that he has claimed I can freely point to these posts as to why I was even more suspicious of Snark Knight: Kinda not sure what to do right now. 1. I speak up, I get a wagon on me. 2. I say nothing, and hope the convo steers elsewhere. Still more likely to get a wagon on me. 3. I claim. We could clear a lot of things up right now. But claiming is a terrible idea. So what are my options here? I'd love/I] to know. 
And any rate, just doing a quick vote count (because Castle hasn't posted one this Day phase) I'm not even under enough pressure to even need to claim.In both of these posts he's freely dangling his roleclaim in a thinly veiled way, almost daring players to not look into his case. Any smart mafia would have seen this as a town player leaving a trail towards them being a power role (Snark Knight being vanilla town wouldn't "clear a lot of things up right now"), so even if Snark Knight didn't claim he'd be vulnerable to getting NKed in the future. Why did he hint at this claim so early when he still only had a few votes and a bit of suspicion? Why didn't he try to look for other targets/start other wagons instead of hiding for over 24 hours and returning with a passive-aggressive post? Why did it take him so long to place a vote down on D3? All of these were really scummy plays regardless of his affiliation. Please answer these questions Snark Knight, because I really don't understand why you would play the way you did as town. Nonetheless, just as with Albie I'll assume the role claim is legit unless a counterclaim emerges. If you are the deputy you need to claim before the end of the day. Yes, we'll have another power role exposed but it's definitely worth taking out another mafia player. I'm still very suspicious of Snark Knight based on his D2/D3 play but for now without counterclaims: Vote: CodexWe need you contributing today. In past games I've seen you described as "a troll when town, and helpful but reserved when mafia". Your gameplay style D3 is leaning towards the second of those two options with how inactive you've been on D3. My vote isn't a vote for you as scum for now, but a vote to get you out here and contributing as you've promised. There's still over 12 hours left so we can work together to get a lynch to majority. |
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 11, 2017 9:48:25 GMT -5
I could see the bandwagon forming already, because we have a number of newer/first time players who seem prepared to follow you with little question because you are a player who clearly has a lot of experience in online Mafia, and you have presented yourself as such. I knew a role-claim could divert that wagon before it could really go anywhere, but I also know it's best not to role-claim unless it becomes absolutely necessary - and at that point it wasn't strictly necessary but it was something I could have done.
Part of it was time zone differences; having other things to do, and needing to find the time for sleep. Time which, while I was away, other players could see and react to your post and vote against me, and fall in line with you accusations (which people did). Whatever post I was going to make, my annoyance and frustration were always gonna bleed through, but better to give myself a time to get myself in check before I just dragged the f**k out of everyone who suddenly 'suspected' me, which would have been even worse.
That, you got me there. I was sure about my reads, and while I was prepared to toss them out and start fresh between Days being proved spectacularly wrong about Norm left me wondering wtf I was doing. Later in the day, as you've seen, I was able to draw up some different stances.
Now as for calling people out; Vote: Galaxy Girl I believe it's now you who's been too quiet for 24+ hours.
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Post by Web on Oct 11, 2017 10:19:20 GMT -5
btw if we're looking at that list of main 3 wagons (SK, gravey, miloninja) zaclord pointed out and (at least temporarily) ruling out Snark Knight as our lynch, I'd be more supportive of a gravey lynch compared to a milo lynch. I don't think either player is particularly scummy (I guess I could be falsely viewing scum play as newbie play like with normusic) but milo seems more active, more willing to ask questions of players, and brings in some unique thoughts. For example, his thinking about who the mafia would night kill and why, coming up with pros and cons in different scenarios, etc. is pretty good for a new player and he doesn't parrot other players as much. gravey makes big summary posts, repeats the thoughts of others and sometimes gets confused about basic aspects of the game. (no offense meant) For the other players, if we're looking at these two targets who would you prefer to lynch today? If not, who would you prefer want to lynch and why?
I'm of course open to looking at other targets too but since our time is limited I'm not sure with timezones and inactivity we'll be able to create a lynch from scratch in slightly under 12 hours. As I said yesterday night, we need to lynch, no lynching isn't an option at this point.
I have class soon and I need a little bit of time to look back over the thread ("recalibrate" as with Snark Knight and his normusic lean) after a lean that I was so sure about appears to be incorrect. Glad Snark Knight responded quickly to my questions but there still are several players who haven't been much help in the last day or so. (including experienced players like Albie and Codex)
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Oct 11, 2017 12:50:47 GMT -5
Vote Update
Day Three ends Wednesday Oct 11th at 11pm EST
to have a majority vote 6 people must vote for the same person and keep their vote active until the deadline!
VOTES (if I miss anything please let me know):(1) Galaxy Girl - Snark Knight (2) gravey - BackwoodsBarbie, miloninja (1) miloninja - Galaxy Girl (3) Snark Knight - zaclord, Codex, Zedd (1) Zedd - Albie (1) BackwoodsBarbie - gravey (1) Codex - thewebinator NO VOTE:
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Post by Web on Oct 11, 2017 13:28:48 GMT -5
have some time between classes, so here are a few snap cases that aren't milo or gravey. Albie and Snark Knight(for now) are town and should not be lynched today, and I don't think Codex is a lynch target worth considering today either despite his extended inactivity. zaclord has pushed more towards a town lean imo with his summaries during D3 (including the normusic wagon analysis), but I haven't cleared him by any means and he was helping build the case against Snark Knight so with me he deserves some suspicion along with me for that. I know Snark Knight is suspicious but zaclord hasn't garnered that suspicion from many others so outside of my personal skepticism it's a stretch for D3. Analyzing zaclord and Codex more deeply (and their relation to the Snark Knight wagon) will be a greater focus for me on D4. That leaves three other players (other than myself) that we could consider instead of milo and gravey. BackwoodsBarbie
I have to look closer at her posts, but her playstyle has bothered me throughout the game. It's a very detached style, where she pops in, drops one big speculative post listing her leans or some math and then bails on the thread for at least a day. She rarely asks questions to players and makes them comb through her dense posts to get a general idea of where she is leaning. Currently on the gravey-train based on his strong normusic defense, but has me as a strong town lean despite my resistance to a normusic lynch on D2. She's playing a somewhat passive game and doesn't have the town very focused on her play. I know she's stated timezones are an issue, but players like Codex and Snark Knight have remained at least semi-active despite not being in the Americas. You can still ask questions of players if they are offline, they'll just answer when they return. It's an easy excuse to remain less active. matteeeb The obvious biggest knock against his game is how inactive he's been throughout the game and how he hasn't brought many original thoughts into play. It's an easy playstyle for mafia to hide behind and as a result very little of town's discussion has been focused on him at any point in the game. I'm not sure if he's a lynch worth pursuing today but he's definitely a player who needs to talk and shouldn't slip through the cracks again on D4. rainie She's retreated back into the ether now that a few players including myself have relaxed their scum leans based on normusic's voting style. She gave the one good summary post at the beginning of the day against Milo/Gravey/Snark Knight and voted milo. After that, she gave Zedd a soft FoS in #502 but that was her last post (in mafia, she's been active elsewhere in Pulse) and it was 45 hours ago! She didn't comment on the Snark Knight wagon as it reached its peak, perhaps she wanted to stay away from a lynch/case she knew would flip town? Does anyone have anything to add to these three players? We're back to being disorganized with less than 9 hours left so all thoughts are appreciated. Considering mafia now likely have two cleared town players still alive, one of Albie and Snark Knight will almost certainly be dead N3. Snark Knight said he protected Albie last night, if he still can the doctor should protect Albie tonight since Albie can't be blocked and if he's alive at the start of D4 can get another report out to town. |
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Post by Web on Oct 11, 2017 13:46:31 GMT -5
seeing as I don't see Codex as a viable lynch today and he seemed to say he'll be here shortly to offer his thoughts, the pressure needs to be elsewhere to get everyone active.
Vote: BackwoodsBarbie
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Post by Albie on Oct 11, 2017 14:05:25 GMT -5
I'm finishing up a post but while I was reading, these two posts stood out to me. It was Normusic. I can explain more in detail in a few hours. I figured nobody would guess my vote would be the person I was referring too. It was odd how he was always defending himself when he only got a few votes, it screamed scum to me and im glad you guys saw that. I will check back in in about 4 hours to see where all the votes are, I likely won't be online in the morning so consider my vote in 4 hours to be final. Looks like nobody is going to get lynched though. Zedd, I'm glad you felt so sure about normusic being scum. In your post #375 you pop in to point out that normusic was your biggest scum lean but leave yourself an out that "this could change" but you end up voting for him. Same post in which you say "one of you" is suspicious but you don't say who. You didn't see the need for someone to get mad at your for suspecting them? That statement doesn't sit well with me as the very nature of the game is to be suspicious and call people out. Its important to note too that this was the first time in D2 that you came in and voted (for normusic). And you don't reemerge again until the very end of the day just to say 'RIP nor'. I am FoSing the hell out of you and getting some heavy distancing from this. Alright so if az is legit telling the truth.. Then he is cleared and I feel like it's codex as the other maf but there is not enough votes for him and now the bandwagon will form on me.. I woke up in middle of night to see this so very tired obviously. I'll see how this will be in 4 hours when I officially wake up. Walker why do you think that leaves Codex as the only other viable member of mafia? What is it that you're going off for this conclusion? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 14:11:03 GMT -5
I'm finishing up a post but while I was reading, these two posts stood out to me. I figured nobody would guess my vote would be the person I was referring too. It was odd how he was always defending himself when he only got a few votes, it screamed scum to me and im glad you guys saw that. I will check back in in about 4 hours to see where all the votes are, I likely won't be online in the morning so consider my vote in 4 hours to be final. Looks like nobody is going to get lynched though. Zedd, I'm glad you felt so sure about normusic being scum. In your post #375 you pop in to point out that normusic was your biggest scum lean but leave yourself an out that "this could change" but you end up voting for him. Same post in which you say "one of you" is suspicious but you don't say who. You didn't see the need for someone to get mad at your for suspecting them? That statement doesn't sit well with me as the very nature of the game is to be suspicious and call people out. Its important to note too that this was the first time in D2 that you came in and voted (for normusic). And you don't reemerge again until the very end of the day just to say 'RIP nor'. I am FoSing the hell out of you and getting some heavy distancing from this. Alright so if az is legit telling the truth.. Then he is cleared and I feel like it's codex as the other maf but there is not enough votes for him and now the bandwagon will form on me.. I woke up in middle of night to see this so very tired obviously. I'll see how this will be in 4 hours when I officially wake up. Walker why do you think that leaves Codex as the only other viable member of mafia? What is it that you're going off for this conclusion? Because of the people who died, Max and Kunt. I think that Codex along with BB is the other Mafia. And by somehow it does not end up being them, I think that myloninja or zaclord are possibilities too. Those 2 are my main options now. |
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Post by Albie on Oct 11, 2017 14:20:41 GMT -5
Connect the dots for me please @walker9. What do Max and Kunt's deaths tell you about Codex's mafia affiliation?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 14:22:25 GMT -5
Connect the dots for me please @walker9 . What do Max and Kunt's deaths tell you about Codex's mafia affiliation? Because Codex is an experienced player and has played with them before and knows them well. So I feel like someone well experienced could have killed Max and Kunt first 2 nights. Since Az stated his role as Town, I think that it could be Codex. Just my thoughts. |
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Post by Albie on Oct 11, 2017 14:27:01 GMT -5
Connect the dots for me please @walker9 . What do Max and Kunt's deaths tell you about Codex's mafia affiliation? Because Codex is an experienced player and has played with them before and knows them well. So I feel like someone well experienced could have killed Max and Kunt first 2 nights. Since Az stated his role as Town, I think that it could be Codex. Just my thoughts. I see. Thanks for clarifying that for me. So you're still running on the assumption that there is an experienced player in the mafia. What do you think about thewebinator as opposed to Codex? What if mafia is all inexperienced players? Who do you think could join normusic on the team, in that case? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 14:31:28 GMT -5
Because Codex is an experienced player and has played with them before and knows them well. So I feel like someone well experienced could have killed Max and Kunt first 2 nights. Since Az stated his role as Town, I think that it could be Codex. Just my thoughts. I see. Thanks for clarifying that for me. So you're still running on the assumption that there is an experienced player in the mafia. What do you think about thewebinator as opposed to Codex? What if mafia is all inexperienced players? Who do you think could join normusic on the team, in that case? I already think that Backwoods is Mafia, so thats 1 of them, and if Codex and Backwoods are not the Mafia team, I feel like zaclord or myloninja can be considered for it too. I think that thewebinator is legit town. Every way he has been posting and participating is townish. BUT yes, I do agree, that there could be a chance that he actually is Mafia acting the most town like so people won't consider them, but Idk, this time I feel like he is actual Town. Hopefully I don't end up being wrong. I think that Anna is also legit town cause normusic kept voting her nonstop. UNLESS normusic was trying to trick town by voting his own teammate Anna to raise suspicions of her being Mafia, THAT could be possible yes, but as of now, I think that Anna is Town. Zedd I feel like is Town too, based on stuff he has been saying, but he is the weakest Town lean I am getting, so if there was a chance to be another maf member other than the main 2 then next possible 2 I mentioned, Zedd is next in line. |
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 11, 2017 15:04:16 GMT -5
I'd be inclined to believe that with how hard Norm was gunning for Galaxy Girl, she is Town and Norm was really over-eager to get a mislynch wagon going. By now we should all be aware of how quickly he was jumping on every wagon he thought he could get away with (which is how he got caught in the first place). Unless the experienced team member gave him coaching on distancing oneself from their team mates and he's just taken that to an extreme. But I feel that is a lot more unlikely.
We still need her to get back here however.
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Post by Albie on Oct 11, 2017 15:05:18 GMT -5
Thanks walker. Ok so now Az has claimed as the deputy and that’s really switching my perspective on things. I thought he was playing a bit more reserved than other times but that was because I was going on the assumption that he was mafia. But knowing he is a town power role kind of brings some sense into his gameplay for me as he seems to have been trying to stay under the radar if possible. However, he is Az and his defensiveness is going to come out at some point – I get it – it can’t be helped. With that in mind, I say I am switching my perspective on things because I was starting to lean Az on the scum team with normusic given his post interactions with him. But now I’m going back to what I was thinking early on in the game. Could this be a newbie scum team? So far, the experienced players have all flipped/been confirmed town (Max, Kunt, Az, me) and as I don’t see anything too fishy in the way Codex has been playing I have a tendency to feel he is town. With thewebinator, its tough because he is such a good player overall but having not played with him before, I don’t really have anything to compare it to. I know we shouldn’t be using past game play to determine play in this game but its nearly impossible not to. Anyway, I am trying to run with a veteran players are town theory so assuming thewebinator is also town that leaves us with the current wagons of gravey and milo. I’m not a huge fan of either but milo probably has more detail for us given he has been relatively more active and opinionated than gravey.
Zaclord is another one that evades me. I am not sure what to make of him but he seems to be staying off everyone’s radar most recently just popping in to rally town.
Interestingly, Galaxy Girl made some accusations (reply #488) of Az and I that we both were playing too hard and trying to force our opinions on others. This echoes the tactics that normusic was using as far as trying to paint some folks in a scummy light. Its funny now knowing that normusic was scum and Az and I are town. This almost gives her seemingly innocent observation a whole new meaning.
Zedd I think could be worth looking into in D4 as he is just skating by too easily. I’d love to hear his response to my questions above though first.
Screw it. I’m going back to my original thought and vote: Barbie.
I want to see what the reaction to this is as the night continues. I won’t be on much as I am still dealing with some personal stuff here but I do think I will be able to peek in a few times before deadline. This was the most time I had to really sit with things. If I’m not dead after tonight, we should get some good information on D4 after the NK and my investigation.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 11, 2017 16:40:14 GMT -5
Ugh I just read all this after work. I’m making dinner now but will post in a few my new theories and thoughts.
But unvote: Az
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Post by Web on Oct 11, 2017 16:53:48 GMT -5
I see gravey's 100% lean thing as townie just because I don't think he would be so adamant in clearing a scumbuddy who was under heavy pressure all day. Would he really be that obvious or am I overestimating his play?
Happy early birthday btw Codex! Really hope you can help out more on D4 since you mostly avoided attaching yourself to any of the wagons/suspicions on D3. You were busy so it doesn't inherently make me think you are scummier but it also didn't make me feel any better about you being town.
I'll look at the votes when I get back home but I don't think anyone has more than 3 votes rn, time is starting to run out.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 11, 2017 17:02:20 GMT -5
So, we have (As a general opinion):
DONT VOTE FOR: Albie, Az
Most agree is town, but has suspicion: thewebinator , zaclord?
50/50: Galaxy, Codex, Zedd, me?
Scum leans: Backwoods, gravey,
And I forgot someone, but I don't have the time now, sorry
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Post by rainie on Oct 11, 2017 17:12:33 GMT -5
Hey, sorry about the absence. I've been following along, I just didn't feel the need to pop in and say anything until now. While my Av suspicion turned out to be inaccurate, I still stand by Miloninja being very suspect and I'm not sure why more people aren't calling him on it. ... I voted for her. It's a new day. So you did not think that the previous day factor of Norm voting and trying to get her lynched nonstop affects if she is Town or Maf? All this makes me believe that she is Town and not Maf. I mean it could happen, but I doubt that norm would have tried to aggressively get Anna lynched if she was Maf. Idk. Miloninja seems hellbent on voting me, not realizing what went down on the last page, almost like he's trying to start a bandwagon for a random person and then not flip because that's seen as scummy. His primary logic seems to be people voted for her before and the fact that he decided I was suspect right after I voted for him feels verrry suspicious. Option 1: Az is telling the truth Pros: He provided a reasonable explanation for not saving Kunt if he was deputy, and saving himself on Night 2 is also very believable. It also would explain some of his defensive nature, as he didn't want town to eliminate their deputy. It would make sense to reveal now, so that town could avoid that elimation. Cons: Am I wrong, or does this mean mafia will target him tonight? If so, is he suggesting that doctor should save him instead of Albie? Or he's willing to take the risk, for the town? I understand it could be worrying with the vote count, but if you're telling the truth you probably have an understanding of what will happen tonight. And unlike Albie, there isn't much punishment if you are lying. No one would be able to say if you were, aside from albie. And in this situation, Albie is getting stuck in an awkward place on who to search. And if he was lying, I'm not sure if the actual deputy would come out (and if it's someone like Backwoods, who hasn't been on in a long time, he wouldn't need to worry). These are all obviously speculations, but we have limited time and I reaaaally don't want a mislynch. Part 2 coming soon! BTW, my vote is changed to gravey for now, to avoid a lynch just yet. VOTE: GRAVEY Based off this post, Miloninja really doesn't seem to have a general sense of how the game works and some of the strategy. Now I won't fault him for this, as I'm new as well and still learning, but it feels like he's trying way too hard to show people he knows what he's doing and basically just trying to bulls hit his way through an analysis. More then this though, the way he ended it feels very scummy. "I reaalllly don't want a mislynch" feels a bit like he's trying to convince people how town he is, and about that Part 2...I don't see it anywhere in sight. It's not even like the first post was that long or contained information, just that he seemed to make us want to think it was. Also notice how he turned to gravey right after gravey called him on his sh it...not only did it take him way too long to do that and he only did it once people explained why it was completely illogical, he's now 2/2 this day for voting for people who called him out. Granted he wasn't the first person to hop on the gravey train (ha), but that honestly makes it even more scum-feeling since he just joined a bandwagon that he knew others would get behind too that targeted someone who he thought could potentially call him on his bluff. I know I may seem hypocritical for doing this since I'm talking about how scummy the person who initially voted for me is, but I thought that before he voted for me and even after he changed his vote I still think this. Edit: As I was typing this milon came out with a summary of who the suspects are which could be seen as "part two," but it was a small post with no description of why, and it feels like the type of fluff post a mafia would make to seem helpful but not actually be. |
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 11, 2017 17:20:15 GMT -5
Okay, while I am glad we didn't lynch Az now that we know he's the deputy (unless someone else comes in and counter-claims, but I doubt that'll happen), now we're kinda screwed trying to all get on board with someone this late in the game. We've got less than 5 hours, y'all.
I'm not sure where to go from here since we have so little time to figure things out. I guess I'm going back to my original vote on gravey for now until/unless I have time to dig back through everything thats happened today.
Vote: gravey
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Oct 11, 2017 17:20:23 GMT -5
Vote Update
Day Three ends Wednesday Oct 11th at 11pm EST
to have a majority vote 6 people must vote for the same person and keep their vote active until the deadline!
VOTES (if I miss anything please let me know):(1) Galaxy Girl - Snark Knight (4) gravey - BackwoodsBarbie, miloninja, Codex, zaclord (1) miloninja - Galaxy Girl (1) Snark Knight - Zedd (0) Zedd - (3) BackwoodsBarbie - gravey, thewebinator, Albie NO VOTE:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 17:23:51 GMT -5
Welp, looks like I will probably be lynch. And its funny how its the people I found most scummy. I guess it clearly shows that 2 of them are Maf. Oh well. Maf will get lucky with this lynch. I guess Ill just go see what the green room will say and if they actually agree with me of who I think is most scummy or not.
If I do get lynched, Town, make sure to read my posts well of who I always found scummy and such, cause they could for sure be legit scum. You can win this without me Town!
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