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Post by Duca on Nov 4, 2017 12:52:52 GMT -5
YOUR THRILLING NEW RELEASES (UPDATE)Sam Smith will score his first U.S. #1 album as his sophomore release, The Thrill of It All, is projected to debut on top of our SPS and album charts on Friday. Here's the latest on where Sam and other key debuts seem to be headed. Sam Smith (Capitol) 210-215k SPS, 170-175k albumMaroon 5 (222/Interscope) 105-110k, 90-95kBlake Shelton (Warner Bros. Nashville) 51-56k, 48-52kKid Rock (BMG) 38-42k, 37-40kKelsea Ballerini (Black River) 38-42k, 32-35kNow 64 (NOW) 22-26kGrace VanderWaal (Columbia) 22-24k, 18-21kYOUR THRILLING NEW RELEASESSam Smith will score his first #1 album as his sophomore release, The Thrill of It All, is projected to debut on top of our SPS and album charts next Friday. Based on early reads, here's where Sam and a few other key debuts seem to be headed. Sam Smith (Capitol) 195-205k SPS, 165-175k albumMaroon 5 (222/Interscope) 95-115k, 80-85kKelsea Ballerini (Black River) 33-38k, 29-32kGrace VanderWaal (Columbia) 21-26Look for projections for Blake Shelton and Kid Rock at the top of the week.
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 4, 2017 13:01:34 GMT -5
Pretty good for Kelsea Ballerini considering lead single, Legends hasn't set the charts on fire yet.
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Nov 4, 2017 13:03:26 GMT -5
The Maroon 5 number is TRAGIC.
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 4, 2017 13:06:33 GMT -5
The Maroon 5 number is TRAGIC. Not really. These long rollouts haven't been doing well, this is actually one of the better results given the decline since their last release and the lack of a current hit as big as their huge ones, or the momentum they had post-Overexposed. I figured they'd get around 120k SPS, and this is just below that. And even with SZA and the two prior singles added, potentially hitting 30k from TEA and SEA for an act 15 years out whose base is largely 35+ by now is good. I actually expected Sam to be a bit higher with the bundle, but it's still a very good opening nonetheless. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 4, 2017 13:19:38 GMT -5
The Maroon 5 number is TRAGIC. Maroon 5 is opening with half of sams numbers. And maroon 5’s last album sold half of what sam’s last album did. Seems extremely normal |
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Post by someguy on Nov 4, 2017 13:24:17 GMT -5
I think not including the first or second single on the main album has also hurt Maroon 5.
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Nov 4, 2017 13:54:58 GMT -5
The Maroon 5 number is TRAGIC. Not really. These long rollouts haven't been doing well, this is actually one of the better results given the decline since their last release and the lack of a current hit as big as their huge ones, or the momentum they had post-Overexposed. I figured they'd get around 120k SPS, and this is just below that. And even with SZA and the two prior singles added, potentially hitting 30k from TEA and SEA for an act 15 years out whose base is largely 35+ by now is good. I actually expected Sam to be a bit higher with the bundle, but it's still a very good opening nonetheless. 3 singles before the album, ticket bundle and they barely do 100k? That's tragic. People came for Katy with almost double the number. |
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Post by seak05 on Nov 4, 2017 14:13:27 GMT -5
The Maroon 5 number is TRAGIC. Not really. These long rollouts haven't been doing well, this is actually one of the better results given the decline since their last release and the lack of a current hit as big as their huge ones, or the momentum they had post-Overexposed. I figured they'd get around 120k SPS, and this is just below that. And even with SZA and the two prior singles added, potentially hitting 30k from TEA and SEA for an act 15 years out whose base is largely 35+ by now is good. I actually expected Sam to be a bit higher with the bundle, but it's still a very good opening nonetheless. Maroon5 has a big ticket bundle |
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Post by someguy on Nov 4, 2017 14:16:42 GMT -5
Not really. These long rollouts haven't been doing well, this is actually one of the better results given the decline since their last release and the lack of a current hit as big as their huge ones, or the momentum they had post-Overexposed. I figured they'd get around 120k SPS, and this is just below that. And even with SZA and the two prior singles added, potentially hitting 30k from TEA and SEA for an act 15 years out whose base is largely 35+ by now is good. I actually expected Sam to be a bit higher with the bundle, but it's still a very good opening nonetheless. 3 singles before the album, ticket bundle and they barely do 100k? That's tragic. People came for Katy with almost double the number. True, but the first and second single aren't included on the main album. I think that has to hurt them somewhat. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Nov 4, 2017 14:19:49 GMT -5
175,000 people in the US are getting ready to go into hibernation. WELP
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Post by Troublemaker on Nov 4, 2017 14:30:29 GMT -5
How funny would it be if Kelsea had the no1 selling country album
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Post by someguy on Nov 4, 2017 14:33:42 GMT -5
How funny would it be if Kelsea had the no1 selling country album Very, but she's on track to outsell Blake right now. |
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 4, 2017 14:39:41 GMT -5
How funny would it be if Kelsea had the no1 selling country album Already been posted. Yes, Blake Shelton has the hotter lead single right now. Big album release week. Sam Smith should be #1. hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=309178Friday, November 3, 2017 FLIPOVER FRIDAY: NEW ARRIVALS AT iTUNES AND APPLE MUSICSam Smith’s The Thrill of It All pops up three times on iTunes Top 30 this flipover Friday. Naturally, the 14-track special edition of the Capitol release is #1; the clean version is #19 and the standard 10 track edition is #23. Elsewhere… An assortment of country albums follow the current #2 album, Maroon 5’s sixth full-length, Red Pill Blues (222/Interscope). The second album from Kelsea Ballerini, Unapologetically (Black River) is #3; Blake Shelton’s Texoma Shore (Ten Point/Warner Nashville) is #4; and Lee Brice’s self-titled Curb release is #9. The debut from last year’s America’s Got Talent winner Grace VanderWaal, Just the Beginning (SYCO/Columbia) is #5, one slot ahead of Kid Rock’s Sweet Southern Sugar (Top Dog/BMG). Online sensation Joji sees his In Tongues EP (Empire) hit #8. The two Halloween releases continue to do well: Chris Brown Heartbreak on a Full Moon (RCA), holds at #7 while 21 Savage, Offset & Metro Boomin’s Without Warning (Slaughter Gang/Epic) is #11. The two albums are dominating Apple Music: Without Warning is #1 on the streaming albums chart and eight of its 10 tracks are in the Top 10 on the songs chart; the explicit version of Heartbreak on a Full Moon is #3 followed at #4 by the clean version. |
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Post by seak05 on Nov 4, 2017 14:59:43 GMT -5
How funny would it be if Kelsea had the no1 selling country album Already been posted. Yes, Blake Shelton has the hotter lead single right now. Big album release week. Sam Smith should be #1. hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=309178Friday, November 3, 2017 FLIPOVER FRIDAY: NEW ARRIVALS AT iTUNES AND APPLE MUSICSam Smith’s The Thrill of It All pops up three times on iTunes Top 30 this flipover Friday. Naturally, the 14-track special edition of the Capitol release is #1; the clean version is #19 and the standard 10 track edition is #23. Elsewhere… An assortment of country albums follow the current #2 album, Maroon 5’s sixth full-length, Red Pill Blues (222/Interscope). The second album from Kelsea Ballerini, Unapologetically (Black River) is #3; Blake Shelton’s Texoma Shore (Ten Point/Warner Nashville) is #4; and Lee Brice’s self-titled Curb release is #9. The debut from last year’s America’s Got Talent winner Grace VanderWaal, Just the Beginning (SYCO/Columbia) is #5, one slot ahead of Kid Rock’s Sweet Southern Sugar (Top Dog/BMG). Online sensation Joji sees his In Tongues EP (Empire) hit #8. The two Halloween releases continue to do well: Chris Brown Heartbreak on a Full Moon (RCA), holds at #7 while 21 Savage, Offset & Metro Boomin’s Without Warning (Slaughter Gang/Epic) is #11. The two albums are dominating Apple Music: Without Warning is #1 on the streaming albums chart and eight of its 10 tracks are in the Top 10 on the songs chart; the explicit version of Heartbreak on a Full Moon is #3 followed at #4 by the clean version. No longer accurate Blake is currently #2 overall & #1country on itunes. He also has a limited ticket bundle, but pre-sale just started friday, and gen ad doesn't start till next friday. This album promo has been so weird, I'm guessing that's why no #'s yet. |
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Post by Duca on Nov 4, 2017 15:44:21 GMT -5
The Maroon 5 number is TRAGIC. Not really. These long rollouts haven't been doing well, this is actually one of the better results given the decline since their last release and the lack of a current hit as big as their huge ones, or the momentum they had post-Overexposed. I figured they'd get around 120k SPS, and this is just below that. And even with SZA and the two prior singles added, potentially hitting 30k from TEA and SEA for an act 15 years out whose base is largely 35+ by now is good. I actually expected Sam to be a bit higher with the bundle, but it's still a very good opening nonetheless. Maroon 5 doing 80k in sales with a current hit and a ticket bundle is nothing short of terrible regardless of the circumstances. They move a surprisingly good amount of tickets in the US every era for whatever reason. They sold over 1 million tickets in North America on their last tour. Six tracks from their album (the three singles and the three promo singles) are also discounted to boost their TEA. By the way, since when does Maroon 5 have SEVEN members?????? I expected Sam to pull these numbers without the bundle but I think he'll have longevity unlike Maroon 5. |
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Post by Troublemaker on Nov 4, 2017 18:06:38 GMT -5
Not really. These long rollouts haven't been doing well, this is actually one of the better results given the decline since their last release and the lack of a current hit as big as their huge ones, or the momentum they had post-Overexposed. I figured they'd get around 120k SPS, and this is just below that. And even with SZA and the two prior singles added, potentially hitting 30k from TEA and SEA for an act 15 years out whose base is largely 35+ by now is good. I actually expected Sam to be a bit higher with the bundle, but it's still a very good opening nonetheless. Maroon 5 doing 80k in sales with a current hit and a ticket bundle is nothing short of terrible regardless of the circumstances. They move a surprisingly good amount of tickets in the US every era for whatever reason. They sold over 1 million tickets in North America on their last tour.Six tracks from their album (the three singles and the three promo singles) are also discounted to boost their TEA. By the way, since when does Maroon 5 have SEVEN members?????? I expected Sam to pull these numbers without the bundle but I think he'll have longevity unlike Maroon 5. Their last tour lasted over 2 years (in fact 2 years and 7 months) so 1 million tickets is understandable. These miserable numbers are a result of them selling out |
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 4, 2017 18:56:12 GMT -5
Those are great numbers for Kelsea Ballerini. That's about 3x the opening week sales for her debut album 2.5 years ago, and comparing it to her other female newcomers in country music and considering her lead single isn't even Top 20 yet and not selling all that well, it's a strong showing. Happy for her.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 4, 2017 20:59:55 GMT -5
^At this point, any artist that can manage to get better numbers than their previous album(s) with their current release is an outlier and such achievement should be celebrated.
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Post by Choco on Nov 4, 2017 21:31:11 GMT -5
Maroon 5 and Sam both have ticket bundles? Horrendous +90% drops next week then...
Sam's lead is doing well, which I didn't really expect, so he could have legs I guess? I have no use for the album, but good for him. His Carpool Karaoke was fun when they weren't singing.
The M5 number ain't good but while the singles have done well, none of them has been on the same level as their previous leads from Overexposed and V. They'll be fine as long as they continue to get hits.
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Post by Khia on Nov 4, 2017 23:45:51 GMT -5
The Maroon 5 numbers would be decent if not for the ticket bundle. Poor opening considering, but maybe they'll have longevity.
Underwhelming for Sam Smith since the lead single has done well. Will we see how many sales came from the bundle? He might have done Melodrama numbers without it. He should have some longevity, though.
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Post by shayonce on Nov 5, 2017 0:17:51 GMT -5
considering both are doing not so big numbers, we brobably won't get the bundle numbers.
they're usually aroubd 30% of ticket sales.
and it's early report, both will go up more with bundles.
bundle sales are really hard to predict.
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Nov 5, 2017 8:15:13 GMT -5
Sam does really well on streaming and Itunes, he'll probably increase on SPS too.
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 5, 2017 9:08:47 GMT -5
Sam does really well on streaming and Itunes, he'll probably increase on SPS too. In fact his single is doing way better on streaming and sales than on airplay, which is surprising (today was the first good update on pop on the whole week). If he is able to have another hit with the album longevity will be probably ensured. Last time the album kept selling even when Lay me down and Like i can didn't work that well on airplay (if they were released in the opposite order probably thing would be different). The second album is always tricky but at least he will get a good start (of course the fact that a big part of his fans are adults help a lot in terms of album sales) |
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Post by seak05 on Nov 5, 2017 10:50:27 GMT -5
^At this point, any artist that can manage to get better numbers than their previous album(s) with their current release is an outlier and such achievement should be celebrated. I agree with this, except in the case of the 2nd album. Opening week sales for a new act should be stronger for their second album. Established acts are a different story. |
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Post by Duca on Nov 5, 2017 12:14:58 GMT -5
Maroon 5 doing 80k in sales with a current hit and a ticket bundle is nothing short of terrible regardless of the circumstances. They move a surprisingly good amount of tickets in the US every era for whatever reason. They sold over 1 million tickets in North America on their last tour.Six tracks from their album (the three singles and the three promo singles) are also discounted to boost their TEA. By the way, since when does Maroon 5 have SEVEN members?????? I expected Sam to pull these numbers without the bundle but I think he'll have longevity unlike Maroon 5. Their last tour lasted over 2 years (in fact 2 years and 7 months) so 1 million tickets is understandable. These miserable numbers are a result of them selling out They sold out a long time ago... Even One Direction are more of a band than Maroon 5 this decade. |
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Post by Duca on Nov 6, 2017 16:21:17 GMT -5
YOUR THRILLING NEW RELEASES (UPDATE)Sam Smith will score his first U.S. #1 album as his sophomore release, The Thrill of It All, is projected to debut on top of our SPS and album charts on Friday. Here's the latest on where Sam and other key debuts seem to be headed. Sam Smith (Capitol) 210-215k SPS, 170-175k albumMaroon 5 (222/Interscope) 105-110k, 90-95kBlake Shelton (Warner Bros. Nashville) 51-56k, 48-52kKid Rock (BMG) 38-42k, 37-40kKelsea Ballerini (Black River) 38-42k, 32-35kNow 64 (NOW) 22-26kGrace VanderWaal (Columbia) 22-24k, 18-21k
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Post by bigfan101 on Nov 6, 2017 16:32:35 GMT -5
Nice look for Kelsea hitting the higher ends of her previous update.
Kelsea being potentially within 9k of Blake in SPS is either really good for her OR really bad for Blake.
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 6, 2017 16:36:03 GMT -5
I'm assuming that Blake wasn't on the initial report because he's with Warner.
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Post by seak05 on Nov 6, 2017 17:43:31 GMT -5
Nice look for Kelsea hitting the higher ends of her previous update. Kelsea being potentially within 9k of Blake in SPS is either really good for her OR really bad for Blake. Both, Blake constantly pumping out albums & basically no promo (& his tour not going on sale till general public till next week) has whacked his numbers. Kelsea had a great pre-release & pple waiting on the album. Kelsea also still has cma's. |
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Post by dbhmr on Nov 6, 2017 18:02:49 GMT -5
175,000 people in the US are getting ready to go into hibernation. WELP I promise to buy Sam's album if I can go into hibernation until this administration is out of office/in jail! |
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