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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 15, 2017 2:04:56 GMT -5
Just to clarify a couple things:
night actions, they all occur at the same time.
Also Roleblocker had until end of day 2 to choose a side meaning they would be a part of a side when night 2 started at the absolute latest in the game
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Post by greentoo on Dec 15, 2017 2:25:39 GMT -5
Vote: Sam
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Post by Sambalada on Dec 15, 2017 7:21:42 GMT -5
Lol if I were mafia, the first think I would do after being silenced won't be telling people to lynch my teammates off.
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Post by Web on Dec 15, 2017 9:41:31 GMT -5
Also Roleblocker had until end of day 2 to choose a side meaning they would be a part of a side when night 2 started at the absolute latest in the game Okay cool so this means that Leo is confirmed town since if he was roleblocker and flipped to maf at the latest point possible greentoo still would have found him to be scum N2. Lol if I were mafia, the first think I would do after being silenced won't be telling people to lynch my teammates off. so you're saying mafia never try to distance from their teammates? That's a strategy that scum use all the time, especially if they know that their teammate is in trouble. gravey was on the hot seat as soon as cynthia pointed out Az's suspicious report on him.
Alright so now that we know Leo is confirmed town based on castle's post clarifying when the blocker flipped, if he's roleblocker for whatever reason he should definitely claim imo. I still feel like there's a chance (albeit small) that the blocker is town. (it would require the blocker to have forgotten that they cancel out the report when they block the cop, which I forgot earlier this day phase so it's not impossible lol) Leo ✔ don't do anything yet either way as I want feedback from other players (@touch , zaclord 🌈 ) to see if they agree first.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 12:11:48 GMT -5
My initial reaction is to say sure why the hell not, but I want to think that over more. I’ll have a layover in DC with some time to drop back in. Expect me in ~2 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 14:39:04 GMT -5
I’m telling lies this airport is a mess
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 15, 2017 15:51:51 GMT -5
Hi I'm home for now but not feeling great so I'm gonna take a nap. Should be available for more discussion in a little bit, but I'm alright with the roleblocker claiming if we think that's what's best right now. It would at least assign that role to someone (hopefully not Leo) so that one of the four of us is uncovered and gives us something to work with for the rest of the day phase. If not, we're just gonna get stuck in voting one of the four of us out without much to go on. So my vote is sure let's do it unless anyone has any dissenting opinions.
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Post by Web on Dec 15, 2017 17:43:10 GMT -5
I'm probably going to be busy for the rest of tonight but I really don't see a downside to having the roleblocker claim at this point. If they're confirmed town (aka Leo) we can discuss who they should block and clear up the confusion surrounding the greentoo block and if their allegiance is unconfirmed we can at least get some justification for their actions so far to try and figure it out with the time we have left.
I don't see much momentum in any other direction at this point. Sam still hasn't voted for anyone and hasn't offered that much this day phase so I think bringing the roleblocker reveal to the discussion could help get things moving again considering we have over 24 hours left.
If I have time I'll pop in later, but I'll be around for most of Saturday to figure out our plans at the end of the day phase.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 15, 2017 23:57:03 GMT -5
DAY FOUR All Aboard the Polar Express!
Night 4 DEADLINE: Saturday, December 16th at 11pm EST
VOTES (if I miss anything please let me know):MAJORITY IS 4 VOTESSambalada [4] ~ Web zaclord 🌈 greentoo @touch NO VOTE: Sambalada Leo ✔ ROLES:Santa ClausGood ElfKrampus3x TownspeopleIDENTITY'S:Adam Bowman Eloise Nguyen Lance McCormick Laura Campbell Lena Newton Ruben KleinFINAL ROLES: 7: @antigonerising: Chad Watson ~ Townsperson 8: @walker9: Chester Garner ~ Evil Elf 9: Az Paynter : Pete Brown ~ The Conductor 10: Mylo13 💜 : Bonnie Walsh ~ Krampus 11: willapted33 : Della Perez ~ Townsperson
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 0:26:26 GMT -5
unvote: Sam
This feels way too free at the moment. Yeah, having thought about it I want a roleblocker claim too. I’m tipsy and reeling from arriving 7 goddamn hours later than I should have (and Nintendo gacha being on some bullshit) but the roleblocker has to be voting for Sam currently (Sam can’t be roleblocker because he was blocked) or it’s Leo but Leo is cleared town... I’m really trying to understand why a town roleblocker would block greentoo though?
Anyway yeah those ISOs aren’t coming anytime soon y’all but I will make an honest effort before deadline.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 16, 2017 0:32:29 GMT -5
I dont think roleblocker will claim his role because seems like he is scum
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 0:37:34 GMT -5
I dont think roleblocker will claim his role because seems like he is scum I was hoping to avoid this because yeah if they’re scum just lie and say vanilla (kind of implied thieves last page lol) but the idea was pray they out themselves and try to say they’re town, lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 0:38:05 GMT -5
Thieves is this
My phone is fucked btw this trip was wack
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Post by Web on Dec 16, 2017 12:38:40 GMT -5
So nobody else is really around I guess, there are roughly 10 hours until EoD, no one seems to be against the roleblocker claiming (Sam and Leo haven't weighed in) so I think it's the right move. Kunt and zaclord weren't opposed, I imagine Sam agrees since he thinks the roleblocker is mafia, and Leo hasn't said anything on the subject. Ill wait until Kunt gives his opinión. I have something on my mind but I cant finish it until that Leo, you haven't spoken up in a while, that might partially be my fault for the whole roleblocker thing (sorry I didn't mean stop posting lol) but what did you mean by this post? Kunt has posted a few times since you posted this.
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Post by Web on Dec 16, 2017 12:45:30 GMT -5
also Sambalada and Leo ✔, why haven't you voted at all this day phase?
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 16, 2017 12:46:35 GMT -5
Alright, well I know this is going to make me the likely lynch target but I'm the roleblocker.
So here's me explaining my actions thus far:
I automatically joined town on D1 so that I could try and use my power on N1. Gravey was my most suspicious person on D1, so I blocked him for D2. Sam was my most suspicious for D2, so I blocked him D3. However, after how confusing and distracting the blocking feature was on D3, I asked if I could refuse to use my power but that wasn't an option. So since I had to use my power and I was still most suspicious of Sam being mafia and couldn't block him twice in a row, I decided to try and block who I thought was obviously going to get killed so that i wouldn't silence someone on D4. Now, obviously this plan backfired because somehow greentoo wasn't killed (more on this in a second).
Now, obviously me blocking greentoo looks really scummy. No, I didn't forget that it would block him getting a read, but I honestly thought he would be dead. Because I knew it would make me look scummy, I was hesitant about the roleblock revealing because I didn't want to get lynched, but the more I thought about it, the more sense it made for me to do.
So now we know that greentoo and Leo are town, and that I'm the roleblocker. That leaves Kunt, thewebinator, or Sam as the mafia. So while I know y'all will still have me as a question mark on my allegiance, the good news is at least we know that mafia is one of 3 people now.
I STRONGLY believe that to be Sam because I cannot think of any reason why good, experienced players like Kunt and thewebinator wouldn't have killed greentoo by now. This isn't saying you aren't a good player Sam, I just have played with the others before and highly, highly doubt they'd let that fall through the cracks
However, here's the predicament we (mostly me) are in now - since you know I'm roleblocker it would make a lot of sense to just lynch me now because even if you believe me that I'm town, I'm sure you're all thinking there's a chance I'm lying and if I am, town loses. So honestly wouldn't blame you if you killed me. BUT if you do believe I'm telling the truth, here's my suggestion:
1. Lynch Sam - like I said, I'm pretty confident in him for reasons above, and this would be the end of the game 2. If it somehow isn't Sam, that leaves thewebinator and Kunt as mafia. One of me and greentoo will still be alive for D5 (maybe both if Doc gets it right - save greentoo over me though), so if we both target one of the remaining suspects, we will have the mafia pegged based on what happens in the night actions. If I block Kunt and no one dies, then we know its him and can lynch him. If I block Kunt and someone still dies, we know its thewebinator and we can lynch him. Either way we win.
So I won't blame you if you lynch me, but we need to come up with a plan of who greentoo needs to investigate and who doctor needs to save so that y'all try and prevent a night kill tomorrow because if one of greentoo/Leo gets killed, then it's gonna be super difficult to figure out what to do from there with four players left.
If anyone has any specific questions for me, I should be on for the next few hours but I won't be on at the EOD.
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Post by Web on Dec 16, 2017 13:18:32 GMT -5
awesome, glad you claimed zaclord 🌈 , at this point I'm more likely to believe you than not (I think as a scum blocker you would have stayed quiet and not claimed), on top of the fact that most of your reasoning makes sense. So with the roleblocker revealed we have two options: 1. Lynch Sam TodayThis plan operates under the assumption that we trust zaclord as being town blocker. So Sam is virutally confirmed maf in my mind. On top of all of the reasons Kunt and I have stated throughout the thread, there's this: Scumthewebinator Zaclord If the roleblocker is town (lol), I'd put zaclord as a town lean since it's odd that thewebinator made it as far as he does even when he's the most informative player from the start. Granted, other potential scenario is the scums tried to kill him N1 but is prevented by the doctor. This post is from Sam's list of leans earlier D4. The reason why this post (specifically the underlined and bolded) basically confirmed Sam as scum to me is I'm the doctor, and this is exactly what happened on N1. After D1 I didn't have enough information to trust the other experienced players and figured I had just as much chance as being the NK target as anyone, so I protected myself. The kill obviously didn't go through, and since we confirmed that gravey wasn't Krampus (meaning his silencing didn't stop the night kill), then it means that mafia tried to kill me N1 and I protected myself from dying. So going back to Sam's post, how would he just coincidentally stumble into correctly guessing this unless he knew because he was mafia and his team's kill didn't go through. I think it's just as likely that someone like Kunt was targeted N1 but blocked by the doctor, or zaclord (since the maf might have guessed that one of the former two players could have been protected N1 and went elsewhere). I Sam getting this right is really unlikely, I don't think I would guess correctly since I see all three of those scenarios above equally likely (and not even considering other likely scenarios liek maf trying to kill someone like Az N1), and it's another huge mark against Sam as mafia. So Sam is 100% mafia in my mind, but what we do EoD depends on how much we trust zaclord saying that he's town. The reason I waited to reveal this is because I wanted the blocker to out themselves first so we could discuss lynching them instead of Sam. With this plan, we're assuming that zaclord is town and that the game will end after this day phase when Sam is lynched. Either way though we'll be taking out a mafia and if the game doesn't end then whoever is around at the next day phase just lynches zaclord and the game is over. 2. Lynch Zaclord Today, Investigate Kunt Tonight, Lynch Sam/Kunt D5This plan operates under the assumption that the roleblocker is scum or we don't trust zaclord enough to believe him. Even though Sam is basically confirmed mafia there's a weird, almost impossible scenario where he isn't and Kunt is the final mafia. So under this plan, we lynch zaclord today (making it impossible for any actions to be blocked N4 including me protecting greentoo), and then greentoo investigates Kunt. If Kunt comes back town we lynch Sam, if he comes back mafia (somehow), we lynch Kunt and win. If zaclord is town then we have a free mislynch (meaning we don't lose if town zaclord is lynched), if he's mafia then he's dead and greentoo can freely investigate to determine the final mafia tomorrow.
Either way though, I think we just won the game. We can use option 2 if we want to be really cautious and make sure nothing goes wrong with the night actions, or we can use option 1 to be a little riskier but end the game faster. I think the only way this plan falls through is if zaclord is lying about actually being roleblocker, which I can't see him doing as town (remember, Sam is basically confirmed mafia so if zaclord isn't roleblocker than he's town), and that would mean Kunt is the final mafia. If that happens, then Kunt deserves the victory since he's been off my radar as scum for basically the whole game lol
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Post by Web on Dec 16, 2017 13:25:08 GMT -5
I Sam getting this right is really unlikely, I don't think I would guess correctly since I see all three of those scenarios above equally likely (and not even considering other likely scenarios liek maf trying to kill someone like Az N1), and it's another huge mark against Sam as mafia. this part is worded wrong, I meant that if I weren't the doctor I don't think I would have guessed the N1 action correctly (since I see all scenarios listed as equally likely) and it's a huge mark against Sam that he managed to nail it in his post earlier today.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 16, 2017 14:04:54 GMT -5
Sorry I have been pretty busy last days on job. Ill try to catch up before the deadline today
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 16, 2017 14:10:47 GMT -5
Awesome I read it and seems like everything is clear now. With the roles claims...
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Post by Web on Dec 16, 2017 16:15:53 GMT -5
I'm about to head out for a few hours, opinions on which of the two plans I stated above are better? Looks like we're headed for plan #1 which I'm fine with (since I think it's going to end the game) but if people want to be cautious with plan #2 and lynch zaclord instead I can move my vote. Since we have less than 7 hours left at this point I want to make sure we have the time to switch votes to zaclord if people want to take that route. I'm fine with sitting on Sam if everyone agrees though. @touch zaclord 🌈 Leo ✔ Sambalada
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Post by Web on Dec 16, 2017 22:09:41 GMT -5
okay so apparently everyone died and the game's over. Not sure if I should take that as a positive sign with mafia giving up or a negative sign and we're missing something, but as an optimist I'll go with the former.
Some final thoughts for the next night phase if the day doesn't end immediately with a Sam lynch:
-If Sam is maf and the game isn't over, it means that zaclord must be the final mafia so regardless of whatever happens in the night phase and who is killed he has to be lynched.
-If Sam is town (which is such a tiny chance that it's not really worth considering imo), then either Kunt is solo mafia and he should be lynched tomorrow or it's Kunt and Zaclord and game is over with them winning anyway. Again, this is so unlikely that I'm not even sure why I wasted the time typing it out but oh well.
I'm guessing that everyone kinda sees the writing on the wall and is just waiting for the game to end though, especially since Sam hasn't voted or responded to posts in almost two days. Either way I'll probably be online until EoD if anyone has other questions.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 16, 2017 23:07:45 GMT -5
DAY FOUR All Aboard the Polar Express!
Alright Day Four is done! You have all come together and decided that Sambalada is the most guilty person and you have thrown him from the train...
...and you learned that he was Lena Newton, a townsperson! There are 5 of you left! It is now Night 5! If you have a night role please send me your choices!
Night 5 DEADLINE: Sunday, December 17th at 11pm EST
VOTES (if I miss anything please let me know):MAJORITY IS 4 VOTESSambalada [4] ~ Web zaclord 🌈 greentoo Leo ✔ NO VOTE: Sambalada @touch ROLES:Santa ClausGood ElfKrampus2x TownspeopleIDENTITY'S:Adam Bowman Eloise Nguyen Lance McCormick Laura Campbell Ruben KleinFINAL ROLES: 6: Sambalada : Lena Newton ~ Townsperson 7: @antigonerising : Chad Watson ~ Townsperson 8: @walker9 : Chester Garner ~ Evil Elf 9: Az Paynter : Pete Brown ~ The Conductor 10: Mylo13 💜 : Bonnie Walsh ~ Krampus 11: willapted33 : Della Perez ~ Townsperson
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 16, 2017 23:14:55 GMT -5
Quick note for everyone. If I have all role choices by tomorrow night at 6pm EST we can begin the Day round a little earlier! (I should be home from work by then). Also as the game is getting down to the last few people starting tomorrow the day will end once a majority is reached. Web zaclord 🌈 greentoo Leo ✔ @touch FINAL ROLES: 6: Sambalada : Lena Newton ~ Townsperson 7: @antigonerising : Chad Watson ~ Townsperson 8: @walker9 : Chester Garner ~ Evil Elf 9: Az Paynter : Pete Brown ~ The Conductor 10: Mylo13 💜 : Bonnie Walsh ~ Krampus 11: willapted33 : Della Perez ~ Townsperson[/quote]
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 17, 2017 18:58:34 GMT -5
DAY FIVE All Aboard the Polar Express!
As the riders gather in the morning, they look and look for Leo ✔ but find that Eloise Nguyen has been eaten by Krampus!
Web tries to talk but realizes that Santa Claus has been silenced!
Adam Bowman and Laura Campbell look at one another and attack the remaining two people and while Adam (@touch ) eats Lance McCormick (greentoo ), the Fallen Angel Laura Campbell (zaclord 🌈 ) holds Santa Claus (Web ) for Krampus to eat right afterwards!
Congrats to zaclord 🌈 and @touch (The Fallen Angel and Krampus) for winning this game for Mafia!
Thank you all for playing! There are some new games in the works from other host!
Here is the link to the Mafia Chat: www.quicktopic.com/52/H/6FXkaW3W6JL
Here is the link to the Green Room: www.quicktopic.com/52/H/GVpQutGfUVdez
FINAL ROLES: @touch : Adam Bowman ~ Evil Elf/Krampus zaclord 🌈 : Laura Campbell ~ Townsperson/Roleblocker 4: Web : Santa Claus 4: greentoo : Lance McCormick ~ Good Elf 5: Leo ✔ : Eloise Nguyen ~ Townsperson 6: Sambalada : Lena Newton ~ Townsperson 7: @antigonerising : Chad Watson ~ Townsperson 8: @walker9 : Chester Garner ~ Evil Elf 9: Az Paynter : Pete Brown ~ The Conductor 10: Mylo13 💜 : Bonnie Walsh ~ Krampus 11: willapted33 : Della Perez ~ Townsperson
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Dec 17, 2017 19:02:08 GMT -5
WOOO! GO MAFIA for the win!!!
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Post by Web on Dec 17, 2017 19:02:57 GMT -5
wtf was this game lmao
so turns out I was horribly wrong and Sam somehow wasn't mafia. I really wish Sam would have voted for anyone D4, or appeared at all for the rest of the day (I assumed he gave up), but I guess I should have been more nervous about both Kunt and zaclord being completely silent for the rest of the day. Sam legit looked so scummy though, I really want to see maf chat now if the team was zaclord and Kunt b/c it was the perfect opening for them lol and I'm sure they were loving it.
Shouldn't have locked into tunnel-vision mode so early but after Sam made the guess about what happened N1 and was on point there was a 0% chance I was changing my vote. Idk if there would have been enough momentum to shift to plan #2 and lynch zaclord (everyone other than zaclord and Kunt would have had to vote for zaclord)
Either way, great game played by Kunt, had him as a town lean for most of the game and the night actions made me completely write him off as a possible maf.
wish this game had started like a week later so I wasn't as distracted with finals, but no way am I going to blame my play on that. Well played Kunt, well played zaclord.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 17, 2017 19:09:08 GMT -5
I do apologize to everyone about the balance issues. Honestly not sure I'll host one of these again, used to love hosting them but it just isn't working for me now but for anyone who wants to host in the future I definitely would like to try and play!
Who knows maybe sometime down the road I'll give it another try with a co-host but not sure at this time.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 17, 2017 19:11:55 GMT -5
I simply suck at this game lol #bye
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 17, 2017 19:15:47 GMT -5
Me and @touch rn: Honestly, everything just fell into place for us in the end or else it would have ended badly. I laid it all out on the line claiming and it worked. Sam not talking at all at the end of the day really helped too. Great, game everyone!
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