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Post by Choco on Jan 16, 2018 11:23:40 GMT -5
Adele is the only one that didn't and actually sold albums I think? Taylor obviously sells but she did like 15 different deals on her first week.
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Post by Push The Button on Jan 16, 2018 15:36:32 GMT -5
Adele had a Target exclusive for 25.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 16, 2018 20:42:39 GMT -5
TOP 20: CAMILA LEADS BY A NOSE
Tuesday, January 16, 2018
Camila Cabello’s strong performance in both sales and streams puts her in the lead for #1. It’s still close, however, as The Greatest Showman soundtrack nips at her heels. The Cranberries seem headed for the Top 20 following the death of lead singer Dolores O'Riordan.
- ** Camila Cabello (SYCO/Epic) 92-97k total activity, 50-55k album
- The Greatest Showman (Atlantic) 87-92k, 57-62k
- Ed Sheeran (Atlantic) 47-52k, 13-15k
- Taylor Swift (Big Machine/BMLG) 30-35k, 11-13k
- G-Eazy (RCA) 30-35k, 3-5k
- Post Malone (Republic) 30-35k, 2-4k
- Eminem (Shady/Aftermath/Interscope) 28-32k, 10-12k
- Bruno Mars (Atlantic) 28-32k, 4-6k
- Kendrick Lamar (TDE/Aftermath/Interscope) 28-32k, 4-6k
- Lil Uzi Vert (Generation Now/Atlantic) 28-32k, <1k
- Huncho Jack, Travis Scott, Quavo (Quality Control/Cactus Jack/Motown/Grand Hustle/Epic/Capitol) 27-30k, <1k
- Sam Smith (Capitol) 25-28k, 10-12k
- Khalid (Right Hand Music/RCA) 24-27k, 3-5k
- Imagine Dragons (KidinaKorner/Interscope) 24-27K, 6-8K
- ** Black Veil Brides (Republic) 21-24k, 20-22k
- Cranberries “Stars: The Best of 1992-2002” (Island) 18-21k, 17-20k
- Kodak Black (Atlantic) 17-20k, <1k
- SZA (TDE/RCA) 17-20k, 2-3k
- 21 Savage, Offset & Metro Boomin’ (Slaughter Gang/Epic) 17-20k, <1k
- Lil Skies (Atlantic) 17-20k, 1-2k
** Debuts In other news, marijuana has been legal for two weeks in California, and we can't feel our legs.
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Post by Choco on Jan 16, 2018 20:59:22 GMT -5
Come on, cross the 100k mark girl. Halsey did it with a much smaller hit.
The new Finesse remix counts for 24k Magic's SPS? It's technically not part of the album.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jan 16, 2018 21:01:57 GMT -5
The new Finesse remix counts for 24k Magic's SPS? It's technically not part of the album. Atlantic made sure the same thing happened with the different versions of Perfect for Ed's album, so I'm not surprised to see Bruno getting a big SPS boost as well.
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Post by forg on Jan 16, 2018 21:30:09 GMT -5
The make up bundle is a good marketing strategy.I don't see it as desperate but a smart tactic to get more sales while at the same time promoting the product she's endorsing. Camila's team is really good I must say.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 16, 2018 22:12:21 GMT -5
The new Finesse remix counts for 24k Magic's SPS? It's technically not part of the album. Atlantic made sure the same thing happened with the different versions of Perfect for Ed's album, so I'm not surprised to see Bruno getting a big SPS boost as well. Yeah. It seems kind of illogical that a version of a song not on the album would count towards it. But albums nowadays can use all the help they can get to make numbers look decent.
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Post by 85la on Jan 16, 2018 23:53:18 GMT -5
^ Yeah, it doesn't make the most sense to me either, but per Billboard rules, if a song is a remix or slightly different version of another, it counts towards the original song's album's points, even if those versions aren't on the album, as I guess it reflects general interest in the song and thus the album.
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 17, 2018 3:21:56 GMT -5
Wow that's great for Cranberries!
Obviously not great outside the charts, RIP
Reputation on the rise again
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Post by forg on Jan 17, 2018 3:26:06 GMT -5
Well since it's digital, the labels could just easily include the remix of the songs to the album as a bonus track
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 17, 2018 6:22:03 GMT -5
^Agreed. I guess they don't in the hope that album or single owners will like the remix enough to either buy or stream it.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Jan 17, 2018 21:16:28 GMT -5
I dont see it as any different than like Christina Aguilera pushing singles from her debut that were total reworks. What A Girl Wants and Come On Over were drastically different than their single versions
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Post by survivorqt on Jan 18, 2018 0:03:55 GMT -5
Geez how did Meghan do 200k pure sales with one mega hit, Bass was really unique to her though, anyone coulda sung Havana
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 18, 2018 8:58:54 GMT -5
What has Meghan Trainor to do with Camila Cabello? They are both women but it all ends there.
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Post by kanimal on Jan 18, 2018 9:29:44 GMT -5
Geez how did Meghan do 200k pure sales with one mega hit, Bass was really unique to her though, anyone coulda sung Havana I don't at all agree that "anyone coulda sung Havana." The notes? Sure, but you're obviously talking about capturing the vibe -- because anyone technically could have sung Bass as well (in fact, wasn't it originally pitched to Beyonce?). Havana being so unique to Camila and so rich with personality is part of why it worked so well. No one's buying this coming from Hailee, Zara, Daya, etc. and that's only partially due to Camila's Cuban heritage. It just fits her essence so well, and in turn makes her seem like a superstar. But it's also important to note that All About That Bass was a much, much bigger phenomenon in America. It was big enough to upstage the biggest, broadest lead single of Taylor Swift's career. Lips Are Movin' had also become a solid hit by the time the album came out, and she'd already really solidified her sound - and built a passionate fanbase - with the EP that came out the prior summer. Camila had as many songs in the market, but OMG, Crying In The Club and I Have Questions didn't make the album, and I'm not sure Havana, Real Friends & Never Be The Same *totally* established the sound you'd expect on the album. Not to the extent of Bass/Title/Husband/Eyes/Lips. A final point is that Meghan's demographic reach seemed much broader. Camila is probably "cooler" to tweens/teens/young adults, but Meghan was still big with them ... AND also huge with really young children and middle-aged adults. The latter two drive sales. I do think Camila and Havana span demos, but not quite to the same extent as Meghan and Bass. Of course, after writing all that, I'm still of the school that there's no real reason for the comparison beyond "Q1 releases from new female artists." And let's not forget that the sales landscape HAS changed a lot even in the past three years.
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Post by Choco on Jan 18, 2018 10:36:46 GMT -5
Havana is the only Camila single so far that showed some personality and it's probably why it actually became a hit.
As far as Q1 releases from new female artists go I don't think anyone is gonna top Kesha's debut album. Sales are down way too much and Camila's relatively big streaming still amounts to just ~50k more with SPS.
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Post by tinawina on Jan 18, 2018 10:44:18 GMT -5
I know sales are down overall but I still feel like it is possible for someone to new break through and ignite the public in a way that generates very strong sales. Cammilla is just not that person.
There is nothing wrong with her debut sales BTW, she's earning her keep wth the label. I just don't think she's destined to be a big album seller.
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Post by deepston on Jan 18, 2018 10:48:32 GMT -5
I could see Camila being a more singles artist than albums, much like Rihanna.
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Post by pnobelysk on Jan 18, 2018 12:28:04 GMT -5
I could see Camila being a more singles artist than albums, much like Rihanna. I always cringe a little when people refer to Rihanna as a singles artist. Flo rida and Jason derulo are singles artists. Rihanna doesn’t have Taylor sales, but ever since her third album she’s had strong consistent sales while ALSO moving a lot of singles
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Post by deepston on Jan 18, 2018 12:38:14 GMT -5
I could see Camila being a more singles artist than albums, much like Rihanna. I always cringe a little when people refer to Rihanna as a singles artist. Flo rida and Jason derulo are singles artists. Rihanna doesn’t have Taylor sales, but ever since her third album she’s had strong consistent sales while ALSO moving a lot of singles Her singles are way more successful than her albums though. I'm not saying she doesn't move a lot of albums anyway.
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Post by tinawina on Jan 18, 2018 12:49:27 GMT -5
I could see Camila being a more singles artist than albums, much like Rihanna. I always cringe a little when people refer to Rihanna as a singles artist. Flo rida and Jason derulo are singles artists. Rihanna doesn’t have Taylor sales, but ever since her third album she’s had strong consistent sales while ALSO moving a lot of singles I've been saying forever that this girl reminds me of Jason Derulo, if Jason Derulo had a little online stan community. She should be able to build a good career around that.
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Post by Choco on Jan 18, 2018 12:53:20 GMT -5
I could see Camila being a more singles artist than albums, much like Rihanna. Define singles artist. Year end Billboard 200: 2017 - #23 ANTI2016 - #5 ANTI2013 - #10 Unapologetic2012 - #8 Talk That Talk2011 - #9 LOUD2010 - #21 Rated R2009 - #70 Good Girl Gone Bad2008 - #21 Good Girl Gone Bad2007 - #57 Good Girl Gone Bad
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 18, 2018 13:01:10 GMT -5
I mean, I don't get why people are expecting Camilla to become a literal instant album success and Rihanna is a good example. It took her years to sell on par with her singles. Music of the Sun sold like, 70K in a time when album sales were much higher than now with a huge smash behind it lol. I am not saying she will become a Rihanna and grow into an album's artist, but it is literally like, less than a week into her first album which might debut at #1 with another single catching on hard. I wouldn't dismiss her just yet.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 18, 2018 13:41:51 GMT -5
The race has gotten close: THE RACE FOR #1 TIGHTENS AGAINThursday, January 18, 2018 SYCO/Epic's Camila Cabello continues to battle The Greatest Showman soundtrack for #1 on this week's chart, with the latest projections putting both in the mid-to-upper-90k range. This one looks like it'll come down to the wire. Stay tuned.
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Post by deepston on Jan 18, 2018 13:58:16 GMT -5
I mean, I don't get why people are expecting Camilla to become a literal instant album success and Rihanna is a good example. It took her years to sell on par with her singles. Music of the Sun sold like, 70K in a time when album sales were much higher than now with a huge smash behind it lol. I am not saying she will become a Rihanna and grow into an album's artist, but it is literally like, less than a week into her first album which might debut at #1 with another single catching on hard. I wouldn't dismiss her just yet. Choco This is what I mean. Like Rihanna in her early days, I think her singles will be much bigger than her albums. I'm not saying Rihanna isn't a big album artist anyway.
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Post by tinawina on Jan 18, 2018 14:12:48 GMT -5
I mean, I don't get why people are expecting Camilla to become a literal instant album success and Rihanna is a good example. It took her years to sell on par with her singles. Music of the Sun sold like, 70K in a time when album sales were much higher than now with a huge smash behind it lol. I am not saying she will become a Rihanna and grow into an album's artist, but it is literally like, less than a week into her first album which might debut at #1 with another single catching on hard. I wouldn't dismiss her just yet. I see what you are saying, but to me I don't really see Camila as new. She's literally on what? Her 4th or 5th pop hit where she was either the lead singer or her voice was prominently featured? This girl has been pretty exposed to the teen/young adult segement of the audience that tend to crown every "next big thing" for years. I totally get music history is full of folks who get that one smash hit on their first album but don't blow up until the second. But those folks came from nowhere when they had that first hit. They didn't get on to pop radio/youth leaning media for years, have an attention getting controverey, put out a buzzed about solo project, finally score a huuuggeee hit that generates good will and plently of attention, then drop an album...and then have everyone go "oh she's still new". LOL I think this is just how her appeal works. She can sell the hell out of some singles. She should be able to keep pumping out radio candy and sell a moderate amount of albums. What's wrong with that? I don't see this changing unless she can develop a strong appealing identity and rebrand herself down the line... after all Rihanna didn't start selling albums until she became the "good girl gone bad" and started doing cutting edge dance pop. But I dont think she can wait too long to do it, because right now is her shot to make an impression, because people already know her and attention is on her right now. This is her shot while people are looking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 23:25:11 GMT -5
Camila will be fine. Pushing 100k with streaming in 2018 is great, not amazing but great. It's all about longevity and having legs which I think she will have. Radio likes her now and I can see her doing well long term. She's got a great image and personality which always helps.
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 19, 2018 1:30:47 GMT -5
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jan 19, 2018 13:06:22 GMT -5
^Agreed. I guess they don't in the hope that album or single owners will like the remix enough to either buy or stream it. How's it's bundled wouldn't impact streaming. However, by not including it as bonus track on main album, the record company is deliberately steering people away from purchasing the album to the buying/streaming the single. Ironic, since the record company wants the non-album track to count for album sales, but doesn't want to boost 'real' sales by including it.
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Post by korbel16 on Jan 19, 2018 19:12:20 GMT -5
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